NBA Season Discussion 08/09

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I was thinking about this on the way into work today, and then found this article on msnbc.com

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26877106/print/1/displaymode/1098/

Last year at this time, the biggest questions for the NBA — other than the arrest and accusations regarding gambling referee Tim Donaghy — were whether the old men who were making up the new Boston Celtics could win a championship and whether Kobe Bryant would be traded away from the Los Angeles Lakers after several months of demands, specifically about going to Chicago.
We know now the Celtics weren't too old or too hyped and Bryant finally came to his senses as the two elite franchises met in the NBA Finals. The Celtics earned their 17th title, and the Lakers and Bryant were happy enough together to believe they'll be back. Also, Donaghy just recently headed to prison.
It seems unlikely the Celtics have more than one more run left with the Kevin Garnett-Ray Allen-Paul Pierce group, but credit Celtics general manager Danny Ainge for doing the right thing: Winning now. You can only win the title you are playing for, as the old saying goes, and Ainge produced more than hope and promise. Congratulations to him.
Congratulations to the Lakers, too, for hanging onto not only Bryant, but Andrew Bynum, who despite injuries last season appears to be a big man who can complement Kobe for years to come.
So as the 2008-09 season dawns, the favorites to win a title remain the Celtics and the Lakers. Also Donaghy finally will be released by the end of the season. No reunion is said to be planned as the NBA still awaits a late October release of their investigative report involving the case.
Meanwhile, here are the 10 biggest questions to consider entering this season:
1. Is it time for a major changing of the guard? And forwards as well? Is this the end of an era?
A:
We may look back on this season as one of those pivotal end of the eras. Many of the teams that have dominated the last decade appear to be in decline or ready to make way for up-and-coming young teams. The Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks are aging and beginning to fall back. The Celtics and Detroit Pistons in the East may be headed that way as well.
2. So who is going to replace them?
A:
The New Orleans Hornets with Chris Paul seem ready now, as well as the Utah Jazz with Deron Williams, though big questions remain about the fate of free agent Carlos Boozer. The Portland Trail Blazers appear to have the best young nucleus, but are probably too young now and continue to hold their breath about physical issues with Brandon Roy. Perhaps the Philadelphia 76ers with the stunning acquisition of All-Star forward Elton Brand.
3. Then who are the teams to watch this season?
A:
Probably Portland and Philadelphia. The Blazers compiled a surprising 41-41 record last season despite losing Greg Oden, billed as the next great big man, for the season after knee surgery. He is said to be healthy, perhaps even too muscular from all his work, and will be the No. 1 player to watch this season. Great big men always are because they are so rare. The 76ers were the surprise of last season with that great run down the stretch to make the playoffs, though they ran out of gas late. Signing Brand, if he is fully recovered from his Achilles' injury, gives them a potentially well-rounded starting five with point guard Andre Miller and athletic Andre Iguodala. They could make a jump to the conference's top four.
4. So who are those top four in each conference?
A:
Give the Celtics one more run and probably the Pistons as well, though Detroit is in some transition with a new coach and younger players. Somehow the Cavaliers get in because LeBron James is so good. Too bad he still doesn't have the supporting cast. It brings up the big question for the 2009-10 season: Will it be James' last in Cleveland as the Knicks and Nets scheme to secure him in free agency after next season. In the West, it looks like the Lakers, Hornets, Jazz and Houston Rockets.
5. Hey, what about those Rockets? Could they be the surprise?
A:
Yes. To themselves as well. That's the adventure and mystery of adding Ron Artest, who before the pressure got to him a few years back was about to lead the Indiana Pacers to the NBA Finals. That was the season before "The Brawl," the Artest-inspired worst-ever thing to happen in the NBA. But with Artest, Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming and solid role players like Shane Battier and Luis Scola, the Rockets look loaded. No excuses this time, Tracy. Except did Yao rush back too quickly from surgery to play in the Olympics? Can Artest have his one good season before it all explodes?
6. So who are the other playoff teams and threats to crack the top four?
A:
In the East, it's certainly Orlando, which was there last season and made an interesting pickup in Mickael Pietrus to bolster their awful backcourt. Watch out for the Milwaukee Bucks if they adapt to coach Scott Skiles' defense with the acquisition of solid pro Richard Jefferson and Toronto if Jermaine O'Neal has any desire left. Always ifs, ands, or buts. In the West, there's still the Spurs — though Manu Ginobili won't be back from surgery for awhile — the Suns as they have Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash and perhaps one more decent season from Shaq. Dallas could stay in the mix, though Josh Howard's early meltdown doesn't bode well for a fading, aging cast. And maybe the Los Angeles Clippers, though with the Baron Davis pickup it's too bad they couldn't hold onto Brand. They could've been contenders.
7. Anyone in for a big fall?
A:
It doesn't look good for the Golden State Warriors, who lost Davis and Monta Ellis to what sounds from all the denials like a motorcycle injury. Hello! Anyone heard of Jay Williams? Reggie Theus did a nice job with the Sacramento Kings, but it's hard to see them hanging on. And watch out below for Denver, which gave away Marcus Camby to save money and is counting on Nene and Kenyon Martin for big seasons. Good luck. In the East, the Nets are in full rebuilding mode and the Pacers are about to follow.
8. So does that change the balance of power?
A:
A bit. After years of Western superiority, the conferences seem even now with the East having won three of the last five titles. Western powers San Antonio, Phoenix and Dallas are sliding while there's nearly a half-dozen teams in the West — Memphis, Oklahoma City, Minnesota and perhaps Sacramento and Golden State — that might not be competitive. In the East, probably only New York and New Jersey seem unlikely to have a shot at the playoffs. How long that post-Isiah honeymoon will last in New York is problematic. It's not like they're that thrilled with Brett Favre anymore with the Jets.
9. So what is going on in New York? No Isiah and still no chance?
A:
We'll hear plenty about them because you know the old definition of a dynasty being a family in China ruling for centuries, or a New York team winning three straight games. It's still effectively the same roster, though it will get a boost being coached by Mike D'Antoni, who is very good and cares little for defense, just like the players he has inherited. They'll eventually dump Stephon Marbury and Zach Randolph and everyone will be asked each night to write postcards urging LeBron to come to New York.

10. Any idea on a breakthrough guy or rookie of the year?
A:
Oden seems the likely pick. Again. If he gets a chance after his impressive Olympic performance, perhaps Rudy Fernandez as well in Portland. Michael Beasley should put up good numbers in Miami, but already is showing that goofy side that was scaring teams off, particularly the Bulls who went with Derrick Rose. Beasley supposedly was hiding in the closet and escaped initial detection when his Kansas buddies were caught with drugs and women at rookie orientation. Beasley was later fined $50,000 after first refusing to cooperate. You figure Dwyane Wade, also a 2010 free agent, is rolling his eyes already. The Heat have had Shawn Marion on the trading block and without an extension, and you know that won't end well. Also, watch out for Andrew Bogut having a chance for a breakout All-Star year in Milwaukee and Don Nelson perhaps breaking away for the last time if the Warriors struggle.

Q: With Kobe Bryant opting not to have surgery on his pinkie finger, does that hurt the Lakers' chances of making a title run?
— Hector Arciniega
A: No. I'd say it's more about what will Lamar do and where will Lamar be. The bigger health issue obviously involves Andrew Bynum and his ability to return to the form he was developing before surgery. Have you ever shaken hands with a pro athlete after their career is over? Their fingers, especially football and basketball players, are lumps pointing in all directions. So Kobe won't look perfect in retirement.
That's the least of the Lakers' issues. They lost to the Celtics in the NBA Finals because they couldn't control Paul Pierce. They don't have a true small forward and still don't. The wanted to take a shot at Ron Artest, but Sacramento didn't want to trade him down the interstate and wanted Lamar Odom in return. So now the Lakers will try Odom again at small forward, but he'll mostly be effective on offense playing a Scottie Pippen-like ball handling role. The problem is on defense with three big, slow guys in Bynum, Pau Gasol and Odom on the front line. The Lakers could opt for Trevor Ariza, but he never has shot well and then what becomes of Odom? That's still their major issue and remains unresolved.
Q: What's your take on how the Bulls went from contenders to a discombobulation?
— James Udesky, Tokyo
A: Not only didn't we see it coming, it still doesn't make much sense. What it suggests more than anything is it was an overachieving team (we always said it was greater than the sum of its parts) whose talent was overestimated. There still isn't an All-Star on the roster, so how good could they have been? They showed how far a team can go with a good coach who pushes players without guaranteed contracts trying to make their way in the NBA.
It's something to remember. Clearly, management made some mistakes, most notably with Ben Wallace, but few disagreed at the time of the signing. They also tended to fall in love with their players and were fooled as much as the fans and media that they were better than they were. It's good to know they're no smarter than we are. And then guys choked on the pressure of seeking a contract or having a new one. A team built that way is a delicate balance and when the coach lost confidence in the team as Scott Skiles apparently did and then was fired, individual agenda arose and they no longer were what we were seeing.
So now they have to try to pull themselves up to being playoff contenders once again, which they can do with the break of getting Derrick Rose with the No. 1 pick. If Kevin McHale had a friend with the Bulls maybe he'd have traded the Bulls Kevin Garnett. If Memphis Grizzlies owner Mike Heisley didn't live in Chicago and compete in his mind against the Bulls maybe he'd have donated Gasol to the Bulls instead of the Lakers. The Bulls didn't get lucky, either.
Q: What do the Cleveland Cavaliers need to do to win a championship this season?
— Steve
A: Join the NFL? With LeBron James and Ben Wallace, they might have a great tight end and blocking fullback. The Cavs' biggest problem (after figuring out how to re-sign James after next season) is finding a running mate for James. Not only don't the Cavs have a No. 2 to support James, they don't even have a No. 5. The Lakers changed when they got Gasol to go with Kobe Bryant. Michael Jordan was 1-10 in the playoffs until Scottie Pippen came along. The Cavs have tried, like in thinking it could be Larry Hughes, but their personnel decisions have been awful in trying to find support for James. Mo Williams, whom they added, is OK, but he's no point guard and mostly likes to have the ball and shoot. Plus, he gets hurt. He's a fourth or fifth option, which pretty must describes the Cavs roster after James, who is fabulous. It's a shame to see him without any chance to be a serious championship contender.
Q: Are the Pacers going to be able to find a quality replacement for Jermaine O'Neal?
— Russ Needler, Austin, Texas
A: If you mean sit on the bench in street clothes and not practice when he is around, that should be no problem. But if you mean the O'Neal of a few years back, sorry. They're starting over again with Larry Bird and ownership trying to rebuild their image as well as anything at first. This hard-working group of the late 1990's turned into a community embarrassment which, in this economy, is a disaster for the franchise. They started at point guard and are taking a risk with T.J. Ford and his spinal problems, but they had to get rid of O'Neal to begin moving forward. They're taking a shot at some young big guys, which is uncertain. For now they look slow and unathletic, for the most part, and a long way from the playoffs. It seems more about salary cap relief now and spending flexibility for the future. But they have to start somewhere.
 
Wow, upon us so fast. Just looked and preseason for Detroit starts Sunday night.

More discussion later tonight. Ready to rock.

Few notes from Stons media day.

Rip looks like Barons cousin now. A full beard. Gotta find a pick.

Sheed has went back to Number 30 after 4 years of number 36.
 
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ESPN Power Rankings

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD colSpan=5>2008-09 Power Rankings: Training Camp</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD width="15%" colSpan=2>RANK (LAST WK)</TD><TD width=90>TEAM</TD><TD width=40>REC.</TD><TD>COMMENT</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>1 (1)</TD><TD>Celtics</TD><TD align=middle>66-16</TD><TD>Slotting the defending champs here has never been more automatic, even though Posey left. Every time we hear someone ask whether they'll be hungry enough to repeat, we want to respond: Boston still has KG, right?</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>2 (2)</TD><TD>Lakers</TD><TD align=middle>57-25</TD><TD>For all the concerns -- Bynum's recovery from knee woes, Kobe insisting he doesn't need pinkie surgery and doubts about Bynum, Gasol and Odom co-existing -- who in the West wouldn't trade for the Lakers' issues?</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>3 (5)</TD><TD>Hornets</TD><TD align=middle>56-26</TD><TD>You certainly can make the argument -- and I think we're leaning that way -- that the best team in the deadliest division, which delivered four 50-win teams last season, will wind up being Chris Paul's team. Concur?</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>4 (6)</TD><TD>Rockets</TD><TD align=middle>55-27</TD><TD>No team in the West made a bigger summer splash than the health-challenged Rockets did when they traded for Artest. Of course, as Yao noted last year: ''We say that every year.'' Cautious optimism is wisest.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>5 (8)</TD><TD>Spurs</TD><TD align=middle>56-26</TD><TD>You know all about the Spurs in odd-numbered years. So dismiss them at your own peril, even if what Duncan declared last season -- ''Our biggest problem is health'' -- is a problem already with Ginobili out early.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>6 (15)</TD><TD>Cavaliers</TD><TD align=middle>45-37</TD><TD>Although trading for Michael Redd was a nice fantasy, getting Mo Williams off the Bucks is hardly a consolation prize. He's a younger version of the Mike -- Bibby -- Cleveland tried for years to add and should give Bron help.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>7 (3)</TD><TD>Pistons</TD><TD align=middle>59-23</TD><TD>The summer certainly would have been more fun had Joe D delivered that shake-up, but you can see why he resisted. For all that closing-window talk, we're talking about a 59-win team whose kids are only getting better.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>8 (13)</TD><TD>76ers</TD><TD align=middle>40-42</TD><TD>The Sixers were undisputed champs of the offseason, but it's also true that Mr. Brand might lift last season's No. 7s only one spot. Philly can finish anywhere from No. 2 to No. 6, like Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando and Toronto.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>9 (4)</TD><TD>Jazz</TD><TD align=middle>54-28</TD><TD>Is this the last season for Utah's Olympic tag team to work together? With Boozer headed for free agency in the summer, that's the question D-Will and the rest of this Jazz will hear all year, no matter how good they are.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>10 (19)</TD><TD>Raptors</TD><TD align=middle>41-41</TD><TD>I loved the Raps' gamble here. If O'Neal's knees don't hold up, Toronto still can be a .500 team without Ford and Nesterovic. And if he does come back strong? Toronto becomes a threat to the East's beasts in Boston.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>11 (10)</TD><TD>Mavericks</TD><TD align=middle>51-31</TD><TD>Which longtime power is straining harder to keep the window ajar? Dirk, J-Kidd and the under-fire Josh Howard in Dallas? Or their old Phoenix friends who must be equally stunned to start the new season out of the top 10?</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>12 (7)</TD><TD>Suns</TD><TD align=middle>55-27</TD><TD>If there's a more compelling mystery in the whole league than finding out what we'll get from the Suns throwing new coach Terry Porter together with Nash, Shaq, Amare and Grant Hill, please point it out to us.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>13 (17)</TD><TD>Trail Blazers</TD><TD align=middle>41-41</TD><TD>Has any non-playoff team for five straight seasons generated expectations like these kids? But the Blazers won't complain if managing expectations (as opposed to the health of Roy and Oden) is their biggest worry.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>14 (11)</TD><TD>Magic</TD><TD align=middle>52-30</TD><TD>Stan Van has made folks in the Magic Kingdom forget that they were ever spurned by Billy Donovan. But Orlando didn't do much to get better in the offseason, so SVG will have to hope getting older is enough.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>15 (12)</TD><TD>Wizards</TD><TD align=middle>43-39</TD><TD>Wiz vets like to say that, when healthy, they're right there with the East's best. Two obvious problems there: 1. Washington is rarely healthy; 2. That statement is increasingly debatable in the (no misprint) improving East.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>16 (24)</TD><TD>Bucks</TD><TD align=middle>26-56</TD><TD>Almost every one of last season's non-playoff teams in the East thinks it can break through this season. Hiring Skiles and acquiring Richard Jefferson arguably gives the Bucks more hope than anyone in that group.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>17 (23)</TD><TD>Bulls</TD><TD align=middle>33-49</TD><TD>Returning to the top eight when PG and coach have no experience won't be easy. A guard glut and the usual low-post void won't help. Can't be harder than winning the Rose lottery with the ninth-best chances, though.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>18 (9)</TD><TD>Nuggets</TD><TD align=middle>50-32</TD><TD>For just the second time in club history, Denver sports a streak of five straight winning seasons. Anyone think the Camby-less Nuggets, with A.I. trade rumors constantly swirling, can play enough D to make it six? </TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>19 (29)</TD><TD>Clippers</TD><TD align=middle>23-59</TD><TD>Not nearly as down on the Clips' chances as the departed Maggette, who claims homecoming king Baron Davis is "in for a rude awakening." Not ready to say this new team of newsmakers can make the playoffs, either.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>20 (14)</TD><TD>Warriors</TD><TD align=middle>48-34</TD><TD>Q: What's worse than winning 48 games and not making the playoffs? A: Everything that has happened to the Warriors since that April heartbreak, lowlighted by Baron's departure and the Monta Ellis injury saga.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>21 (21)</TD><TD>Bobcats</TD><TD align=middle>32-50</TD><TD>We'd normally see the Bobs as the sort of the team in line for a 10-win spike after hiring a proven winner like Larry Brown. Problem is, Charlotte's roster still is badly flawed. Nor are we sure they're getting vintage Larry.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>22 (17)</TD><TD>Hawks</TD><TD align=middle>37-45</TD><TD>Seeing Childress defect to Greece won't hurt the Hawks nearly as much as the knowledge that 37 wins ain't going to get you a playoff spot this season … and that competition for the No. 8 seed will be far more fierce.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>23 (16)</TD><TD>Kings</TD><TD align=middle>38-44</TD><TD>Bobby Brown's arrival means that we'll be more into them than we've been since Henry Turner and Leon Wood were Kings. For the rest of you, it's a full-on youth movement starring Kevin Martin and little else you'll recognize.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>24 (30)</TD><TD>Heat</TD><TD align=middle>15-67</TD><TD>It doesn't seem outlandish, even after a nosedive to the shameful depths of 15-67, to expect D-Wade, Marion and Beasley to mount a playoff push. Until you realize Coach Spoelstra has almost nothing else to work with.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>25 (20)</TD><TD>Pacers</TD><TD align=middle>36-46</TD><TD>Maybe we should be higher on a team that finished one game shy of the playoffs. Just can't shake the feeling that Indy (a) came up way short on the O'Neal deal and (b) still lacks the right mix to play Obie's way.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>26 (25)</TD><TD>Knicks</TD><TD align=middle>23-59</TD><TD>Donnie W. and D'Antoni have quickly restored some hope to MSG's gloomy halls, but that's a lot easier in the summer when all the focus is on them. Now the players are back to remind everyone how hard their jobs will be.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>27 (22)</TD><TD>Nets</TD><TD align=middle>34-48</TD><TD>Ouch, ouch, ouch. After every other Atlantic team chasing Boston made a big-name snag -- Elton Brand, Jermaine O'Neal, Mike D'Antoni -- rebuilding Jersey was pegged to finish last in the East in ESPN's staff poll.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>28 (28)</TD><TD>Timberwolves</TD><TD align=middle>22-60</TD><TD>The Wolves quietly posted a borderline respectable record of 17-26 after last season's 5-34 start to Life After KG. Yet it's tough to picture Minnesota sustaining that over 82 games, fond as we are of Mike Miller's shooting eye.</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>29 (26)</TD><TD>Grizzlies</TD><TD align=middle>22-60</TD><TD>No one is bound to even notice in the West, but the much-maligned Grizz have assembled an intriguing group of kids: O.J. Mayo, Rudy Yag, even Marc Gasol. Which is why trading for Z-Bo to be the vet made no sense.</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>
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</TD><TD align=middle>30 (27)</TD><TD>Thunder</TD><TD align=middle>20-62</TD><TD>The Hornets averaged 38.5 wins in OKC's previous stint as an NBA city. The Thunder? Dare we say 28 wins would represent success for a group that still offers precious little to thrill those loud crowds beyond Kevin Durant.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Here are some thoughts

1.) Will Houston finally stay healthy. They have a sick, sick, sick nucleaus now, that can compete in the West. T-Mac finally gets past the 1st round
2.) Orlando/Philly will make the biggest improvements in the East once again. Howard is a year older, and is the top big man in the league. Philly could win more than 50 games this year.
3.) Boston will not repeat.
4.) The Lakers will win it all this year.
5.) The Hornets are 1 year away.
6.) The Spurs/suns are to old. There best years are behind them.
7.) With Philly/Toronto improving in the offseason, and barring any major injuries both could take down Boston/Detroit/Cleveland in the 1st round this year of the playoffs.
8.) Portland will be the funnest team to watch all year.
9.) The Wizards will not stay healthy.
10.) The Nuggets/Warriors will not make the playoffs.
11.) Denver will still not play any defense.
12.) Miami will be better than we think
13.) The Hawks will not be.
14.) Kevin McHale is still a moron.
15.) The Pistons have 1 last run at it this year, otherwise the youth movement will take over.
16.) Chris Paul will be the MVP this year.
17.) The Bulls will turn there season around.
18.) The Mavericks could surprise us this year.
 
Bar

Less than a month away, most teams have reported to Camp, and the preseason will be upon us shortly. November is the most wonderful time of the year.

NFL, CFF, CBB, NBA.
 
Houston will do jack this year.

T-Mac will get hurt. Yao will get hurt, Artest and Skip will end up killing each other. The only sane player on the team (Battier) will probably get traded.
 
Houston will do jack this year.

T-Mac will get hurt. Yao will get hurt, Artest and Skip will end up killing each other. The only sane player on the team (Battier) will probably get traded.

T-Mac is already complaining about being hurt and not going to be 100% for a couple of months and I believe Battier is out a month or so as well.

"It’s not anything that is going to keep me out of games, but it’s going to bother me," he said. "I played through it last year. I didn’t realize how bad it was. I’ll be ready to go." McGrady has already said he'll need surgery on the shoulder next season, and it would not be surprising if he aggravates the injury and needs surgery this season.

Rockets forward Shane Battier will miss four weeks, including training camp and most of the exhibition season, with inflammation in his left foot.
Battier had surgery to remove bone spurs from around his left ankle joint on May 9 and has experience pain during his rehabilitation process.
 
I hate that my Hornets have to go through that division. Hornets, Rockets, Spurs, Mavs ... that's a damn strong division.
 
Bar

Less than a month away, most teams have reported to Camp, and the preseason will be upon us shortly. November is the most wonderful time of the year.

NFL, CFF, CBB, NBA.

Despite living in the midwest whre its a yucky weather month...my favorite sports month with march right behind..

Came up so quick...
 
Guys, I have a lot of thougghts..will post a thread tonight or in morning...but some interesting stuff to think about imo for this season...
 
Do not think Houston will underperform. Last yr was top 3 defensive team in the league- now throw in the best defensive player in the league and I cannot see this team doing any worse. What they did last yr -Yao was amazing. What they should be able to do this yr to add to that should exceed expectations. Skip showed some consistency with the jumper last yr and should be even easier this yr as he'll be open all day. Also, when healthy, I can definitely see a lineup of Skip, Tmac, Artest, Battier, and Yao all on the floor at the same time in the 4th Q. Why not? Tmac- listed most places at 6'8- is definitely around 6'10 and can play PF, or Artest has the muscle to bang with the great PFs. I mean, with a great team defense- individual defensive matchups don't get exposed, and great individual defenders only get highlighted- yes that made sense. Houston makes a run this yr. Last yr 4th seed with no Yao. With Yao, 2nd best C in the league- most skilled C- they should do exceptionally. Add in Artest. Last yr he was limited on D as he claimed coach told him to save himself on D cuz they needed him to score. This yr, he'll be able to devote all he has to defense- Defensive player of the yr?
Supposing the team gets the players back and all are ready to go by say March, this team is a serious contender
 
Also, despite a lack a talent, GS will put up points and only be worse on defense.

Early totals teams: (imo totals are easier in the beginning of the yr)
Over teams: GS, NY, Indiana, Denver, Sac, Miami
Under teams: Phoenix, Detroit, Houston,
 
Agree totals are earlier in the year SF...

One thing, Mike Curry is really gonna push to be more uptempo...now that has been said before but it might actually happen this time around.
 
Throw,

Glad to see the video was full of content of AB doing shit on my Boys last year :(
 
Andrew Bynum tells you that he had been dreaming of playing in the NBA Finals “ever since I was a little kid.”

He’s 20, you think. He’s still just a big kid right now.

Well, yes and no.

He is still kind of goofy. He’s not really into the party scene – those photos of him at a UCLA frat party that circulated on the Web last April belie what a straight arrow he is – but he’s huge into computers in a very age-appropriate way.

He’s actually geeky enough to be so interested in engineering that he designed the knee brace he’s wearing in training camp and intends to design a better one (“It keeps sliding down and it’s kind of annoying,” he said).

He is not – everyone in the Lakers’ chorus jump in with a “Hallelujah!” here – just a big kid anymore when it comes to being a professional basketball player. He used to be – not eating right, not focusing enough, not showing up early or at all for extra work.

But if you were surprised by how much better Bynum was last season, prepare your eyes to be popping anew this season.

Bynum is bigger, faster and better in every possible way (again) because he worked at it (again). That’s why the personal goal he revealed Wednesday – making the All-Star team in February – is absolutely realistic. (Amare Stoudemire, the other center to make it for the Western Conference last season besides Yao Ming, will be playing primarily power forward this season with Shaquille O’Neal now Phoenix’s starting center. Minnesota center Al Jefferson, likewise looking for another great leap forward this season, could be Bynum’s main obstacle, but he also plays for one of the league’s worst teams.)

Asked if he’d be disappointed not to be an All-Star so soon, Bynum said: “I would be. It’s going to be tough in the West, but I think I’ll be able to do it.”

Caring enough to set lofty goals is part of the right attitude. Bynum is even peeking ahead to 2012, when he hopes to be on the next Olympic team with Kobe Bryant. Again, absolutely realistic.

The Lakers have had reason to doubt Bynum’s work ethic since he basically crammed for the NBA draft in 2005 at the behest of his AAU coach and lost enough weight to reveal to scouts the vast underlying skill. Last season, though, Bynum committed to a personal trainer before Bryant ever called him out in that parking lot.

And soon enough, Bynum was out on the track in the early morning just the way Bryant is. In Boston in November, Bryant and Bynum were the only Lakers to hit the weight room after the team’s shoot-around on game day – an increasingly regular occurrence – and Bryant said later: “It shows me that he has a lot of fire in his belly.”

Bynum might’ve disappointed some people by not hanging around the team throughout the playoffs – too “horrible” to bear being there and not playing, he explained – but he certainly put in his time after the season.

He rehabbed his knee in New York, he worked out like a maniac in Atlanta, and he has returned to Los Angeles with a visibly thicker frame, faster shuttle times, more weight he can squat (there’s no tougher test for a knee than that lift) and another inch on his vertical.

“It feels stronger; it feels better than last year,” Bynum said og the knee that cost him the last five months of the Lakers’ season. “I don’t have any fear at all.”

Bynum now has to translate all the NFL combine stuff into big-time basketball productivity – Phil Jackson described Bynum as “tired” Wednesday morning from morning and evening basketball work Tuesday – but the upside is mind-blowing.
 
man, i remember how crushed I was when the warriors took diogu with the 9th pick, one spot ahead of the lakers. a few minutes later a 7 foot kid walks outta the stands to greet stern and im thinking who the fuck is this guy?

crazy how shit works out
 
So much for a discussion thread. Looks like you guys are just jerking off to pictures of the Lakers.
 
New Kind Of Diesel




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With Andrew Bynum healthy, the Lakers are looking tougher than ever.
Think the Lakers are soft? Have a look at Andrew Bynum, whose broad shoulders now carry the weight of L.A.'s new title hopes. J.A. Adande
 
I love the Lakers. God I love the Lakers. I only come to the NBA discussion page to see pictures of the Lakers. Wow, could this be the next dynasty? There is no other team in the west. I see the Lakers going all the way this year. Sun Yue is going to be the D-Will. Odom coming off the bench, can't wait. Luke Walton is the best passing forward of all time. I cum at the sight of the triangle.
 
Matrix for Odom deal might be in the works.

Personally, I want to get rid of Odom ASAP as he has shown no drive to want to win a ring after showing up to camp out of shape coming off a horrid performance in the Finals. You would think he of all people would have taken things a lil more personally after he was exposed for his soft play.
 
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