NBA Injuries and Issues Saturday

redbearde

redbearde

Pretty much a regular
Lebron is out with his bad finger. Where will that total be, I wonder...?

Jason Williams left Friday's game with another ankle sprain. No word on severity yet.

Stojakovic left Friday's game with a minor groin strain. Insert Amaechi comment here.

Shareef Abdur-Rahim is out for the season after knee surgery to un-fuck his knee.
 
tomorrow I'll be looking at

Cleveland/Charlotte under
Memphis ML
Philly ML
Utah ML
Chicago ML (3:1 or better)
Sack/Denver Over

I will not be playing this many. Perhaps one total.
 
Carlos Arroyo returned to the court on Friday, but you never know when he'll be absent for his daughter's illness.

Dorrell Wright was a fucking beast tonight. the motherfucker. If he and Cook can get into it, then the Heat might not be quite as bad as they've looked thus far.

John Salmons is starting in place of the gaping Amaechi hole, so Garcia will continue coming off the bench.
 
Ruben Patterson was whining about playing time yesterday, and he got some more tonight. He also played quite well. Don't expect this to be a night-in night-out thing......but an occasional good to great game would really help the Clips...

Antoine Wright returned to the Nets lineup, and he missed his one shot attempt.

Eddy Curry returned to action tonight, and while hi numbers were okay, his FT shooting sucked anus, and Zach Randolph was the anus. Why can't he play for shit with Curry in the lineup?

Chicago signed Demetris Nichols on Friday. He had been cut by the Cavs on Wednesday.
 
oh, and I managed to NOT get swept with a delightful Clippers victory. too bad I didn't go 50% or I'da had a nice little winning day. Nonetheless, I caught the most valuable win, so while I did lose a bit, it wasn't 4 full units.

w00t.
 
Memphis @ Atlanta

Current line Hawks -5

last meeting was March 9th in Atlanta - Hawks won 106-105 as 1.5pt dogs.

Grizzlies lost in OT Friday to New Orleans.
Atlanta beat Minny on a buzzerbeater on Thursday. After being up 20.

Next,
Grizzlies go home to face Detroit on Tuesday.
Hawks visit Orlando on Monday.

Hawks have been alternating wins and losses since Nov 24, and they won their last.

Last game, the Grizz starters played mad minutes.

Lowry 49.5mins
Miller 41 mins
Gasol 46.5mins
Yag 46 mins
Darko 43 mins

Juan Carlos Navarro didn't attempt a shot in 13 minutes. No news of injury, but with Stoudamire and Conley sidelined, they need Navarro to play well.

Stromile Swift is questionable with a virus. He's missed 2 games and thursday's practice.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content...awksnot_1207.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21

Zaza is questionable with a concussion.
Childress is questionable with a sore pussy.
Lue is doubtful

If Childress can't go, that's a pretty large loss for the Hawks.

Memphis has the third worst defence in the league, allowing 106.2 points per game.
Memphis has the worst field goal percentage against in the league at 47.5.

Atlanta is the second worst team for three points made in the league with 4.1 per game.
Atlanta is second in three points made allowed in the league with 5.1 per game.

Memphis is 1-4 SU in its last 5 games
Memphis is 1-8 SU in its last 9 games on the road
Memphis is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games when playing Atlanta
Memphis is 6-2 SU in its last 8 games when playing Atlanta
Memphis is 1-6 ATS in its last 7 games when playing on the road against Atlanta
Memphis is 3-9 SU in its last 12 games when playing on the road against Atlanta

Atlanta is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games
Atlanta is 1-5 ATS in its last 6 games at home
Atlanta is 2-4 SU in its last 6 games at home

Grizzlies are 6-2-1 ATS in their last 9 games as an underdog.
Grizzlies are 8-3 ATS in their last 11 Saturday games.
Grizzlies are 2-6 ATS in their last 8 games when their starting 5 players combine for more than 160 minutes of the previous day.

Hawks are 8-17 ATS in their last 25 games as a home favorite.
Hawks are 2-6 ATS in their last 8 Saturday games.
Hawks are 0-6 ATS in their last 6 games playing on 1 days rest.

Home team is 8-3 ATS in the last 11 meetings.
Grizzlies are 1-4 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
Underdog is 4-1 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
Grizzlies are 1-6 ATS in the last 7 meetings in Atlanta.

I have Grizz +190. There are a lot of questions in my mind about this game for me to be getting almost 2:1. I think the grizz have something like a 40-45% chance to win. Fatigue could be a factor, but the Grizz always play 48 minutes...even if they suck, so I'm not as concerned as I would be if it was the Heat or the Cavs.
 
Cleveland @ Charlotte

Current line Bobcats -7. Total opened in he 170s, and it's up to 181.

Last meeting was March 20 in Charlotte. Bobkitties won in OT 108-100 as 7.5pt dogs.

Cavs lost at Washington on Wednesday managing only 86 points.
Bobcats lost at home to Chicago on Wednesday.

Next,
Cavs go home to face the Pacers on Tuesday.
Bobcats go to Detroit for Sunday's crushing loss.

Lebron, doubtful.
Simmons, Out
Hughes, Out
Marshall, Out

Ryan Hollins is questionable for the bobcats.

Charlotte is second last in the league in free throw percentage at 67.7.
Charlotte is third in three points made allowed in the league with 5.1 per game.

Cleveland is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games
Cleveland is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games
Cleveland is 1-4 SU in its last 5 games on the road
Cleveland is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games when playing Charlotte
Cleveland is 9-2 SU in its last 11 games when playing Charlotte
Cleveland is 4-2 ATS in its last 6 games when playing on the road against Charlotte
Cleveland is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games when playing on the road against Charlotte

Charlotte is 1-6 ATS in its last 7 games
Charlotte is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games
Charlotte is 5-2 ATS in its last 7 games at home

Cavaliers are 9-2 ATS in their last 11 Saturday games.
Cavaliers are 20-8 ATS in their last 28 games as a road underdog.
Cavaliers are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games as an underdog.
Cavaliers are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games as a road underdog of 5.0-10.5.
Cavaliers are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games as an underdog of 5.0-10.5.

Bobcats are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games as a favorite.
Bobcats are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games as a home favorite.

Under is 4-1 in Cavaliers last 5 games as an underdog.
Under is 4-1 in Cavaliers last 5 overall.

The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Cleveland's last 5 games
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Cleveland's last 6 games on the road
The total has gone UNDER in 14 of Charlotte's last 21 games
The total has gone UNDER in 6 of Charlotte's last 9 games at home

Since Lebron went out, the total has gone under every game except the Washington game...and the bullets managed to go over 189.5 all the way up to 191.

Since Lebron has been out...

Cavs average 78.2ppg of offense.
Cavs allow 97ppg on defense.

So....I see a total of 177, and I think, hey...that might just be a tad high, still....and then it gets bet UP to 181.

wtf is going on here?
 
Philly @ New York

Current line is -4.5

Last meeting was yesterday in Philly. 76ers won 101-90 as 4pt faves.

Next,
Philly goes home to face the Rockets on Monday.
New York stays home to face the Mavs on Monday.

Stephon played 13 minutes yesterday and had 2 points, and then he sat out the second half cus it was too hard to play or something. Is he better today?

Eddy Curry returned and fistfucked the lane for Randolph. <--insert amaechi coment here-->

Philadelphia is third last in the league in three points made with 4.2 per game.

New York has the third worst free throw percentage in the league at 69.8.
New York is second worst in field goal percentage against in the league at 47.1.

Philadelphia is 2-3-1 ATS in its last 6 games
Philadelphia is 4-11 SU in its last 15 games
Philadelphia is 11-4 ATS in its last 15 games on the road
Philadelphia is 1-5 SU in its last 6 games on the road
Philadelphia is 5-1 ATS in its last 6 games when playing New York
Philadelphia is 7-1 SU in its last 8 games when playing New York
Philadelphia is 1-9 ATS in its last 10 games when playing on the road against New York
Philadelphia is 2-7 SU in its last 9 games when playing on the road against New York

New York is 4-11 SU in its last 15 games
New York is 5-12 ATS in its last 17 games at home

76ers are 4-1-1 ATS in their last 6 games as an underdog.
76ers are 16-5 ATS in their last 21 Saturday games.
76ers are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games playing on 0 days rest.
76ers are 11-4 ATS in their last 15 games as a road underdog.

Knicks are 7-2 ATS in their last 9 Saturday games.
Knicks are 11-26 ATS in their last 37 games playing on 0 days rest.
Knicks are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 games as a favorite.
Knicks are 0-7 ATS in their last 7 games as a home favorite.

76ers are 5-1 ATS in the last 6 meetings.
Favorite is 5-1 ATS in the last 6 meetings.
Home team is 20-6 ATS in the last 26 meetings.
76ers are 1-9 ATS in the last 10 meetings in New York.

I know how hard it is to win both days of a home and home, but the Knicks suck ass as a fave, they've averaged a whopping 88ppg while allowing 100ppg in their last 5, and with the kookiness of this week, I gotta take a shot with Philly managing it at +180. Maybe stephon marbury dedicates this game to his dad and he goes for 50. Maybe Zach turns it around and plays great ball. Maybe the Knicks aren't demoralized after last night.

...and maybe the better team with less insanity fucking them up wins again?
 
maybe there just lazy bums and were waiting for the home game of the home and home to play hard
 
Phoenix @ Minny

:36_11_6:

Current line Suns -10.5

Last meeting was March 20 in Phoenix - Suns won 108-90 as 12pt faves.

Phoenix won at Washington Friday.
Minny lost at Atlanta on Thursday.

Phoenix goes home to slaughter Miami on Monday.
Minny travels to Washington on Tuesday.

This is the last game in a long road trip before the Suns go home.
This is the last of a Suns 4 in 5 traveling. Also a 5th in 7 if you care.

Nash has had 17, 18, and 19 assists in his last 3 games.

Suns have no injuries.
Antoine Walker is doubtful Saturday. He might return to practice on Wednesday...
Marko Jaric came back on Thursday and is obviously fine...damn near going for a triple-double.

I think the Suns will likely have a 30pt lead by the end of the 3rd, and then the Twolves will be able to work their way back....possibly to high single digits by the end of the game.

Phoenix is the highest scoring team in the league at 111.1 points per game.
Phoenix leads the league in field goal percentage with 49.7.
Phoenix is third best in the league in three points made with 8.7 per game.

Minnesota has the third worst field goal percentage against allowing 47.1.

Phoenix is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games
Phoenix is 8-1 SU in its last 9 games on the road
Phoenix is 7-3 ATS in its last 10 games when playing Minnesota
Phoenix is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games when playing Minnesota
Phoenix is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing on the road against Minnesota
Phoenix is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games when playing on the road against Minnesota

Minnesota is 7-17 ATS in its last 24 games
Minnesota is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games
Minnesota is 0-5 ATS in its last 5 games at home
Minnesota is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games at home
Minnesota is 14-6 SU in its last 20 games when playing at home against Phoenix

Timberwolves are 17-38 ATS in their last 55 home games.
Timberwolves are 18-43-2 ATS in their last 63 games overall.
Timberwolves are 4-10 ATS in their last 14 games as an underdog.
Timberwolves are 10-26-2 ATS in their last 38 games playing on 1 days rest.
Timberwolves are 5-16 ATS in their last 21 games as a home underdog.
Timberwolves are 0-6 ATS in their last 6 Saturday games.

Suns are 4-1 ATS in the last 5 meetings in Minnes
Suns are 7-3 ATS in the last 10 meetings.
Road team is 13-6-1 ATS in the last 20 meetings.
 
Horus said:
maybe there just lazy bums and were waiting for the home game of the home and home to play hard
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that may well be. course, if the Knicks are the lazy bums they've been thus far this year, then they're waiting for the blockbuster trade and the new coach...
 
naw Im in NYC and a long time Knicks fan they are talented players that dont know how to play the game if that makes sense. They cant handle prosperity so when they win a game like in NJ and they see philly next in a home and home. They think "we dont have to play hard we can win the home game"
 
Boston @ Chicago

Current line is -5.5 to -6.

Last meeting was March 13 in Chicago - Bulls won 95-87 as 9.5pt faves.

Celtics beat the batshit out of Toronto on Friday in Boston.
Bulls upset the Pistons in Detroit on Friday in Detroit.

Next,
Celtics go home to face the Kings on Wednesday.
Bulls go home to face Supersonics on Tuesday.

Tyrus Thomas was benched and did not play at Detroit on Friday.

Boston is 12-5-1 ATS in its last 18 games
Boston is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games
Boston is 1-3-1 ATS in its last 5 games on the road
Boston is 7-2 SU in its last 9 games on the road
Boston is 1-7 ATS in its last 8 games when playing Chicago
Boston is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games when playing Chicago

Chicago is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games
Chicago is 6-12 ATS in its last 18 games
Chicago is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games
Chicago is 6-12 SU in its last 18 games
Chicago is 15-8 SU in its last 23 games at home
Chicago is 11-4 ATS in its last 15 games when playing at home against Boston
Chicago is 6-1 SU in its last 7 games when playing at home against Boston

this is a very different Celtics team, so take this matchup history with a grain of salt.

Celtics are 12-2 ATS in their last 14 Saturday games.
Celtics are 37-15-1 ATS in their last 53 road games.
Celtics are 18-6 ATS in their last 24 games playing on 0 days rest.
Celtics are 12-5-2 ATS in their last 19 games as a road favorite.
Celtics are 12-5-1 ATS in their last 18 games overall.
Celtics are 11-5-1 ATS in their last 17 games as a favorite.

Bulls are 8-2 ATS in their last 10 games as a home underdog.
Bulls are 4-10 ATS in their last 14 games playing on 0 days rest.
Bulls are 3-8 ATS in their last 11 games when their starting 5 players combine for more than 160 minutes of the previous day.
Bulls are 2-9-1 ATS in their last 12 Saturday games.
Bulls are 1-6 ATS in their last 7 games as an underdog.

if the line keeps going up, I might just play the Bulls at 3:1...
 
Utah @ Dallas

Current line Mavs -5.5 and -6.

Last meeting was April 13 in Dallas when Utah won as 4.5pt dogs.

Utah lost at San Antonio on Friday Night.
Dallas lost to the Nuggets on Wednesday

Next,
Utah goes home to face the Trailblazers on Tuesday.
Dallas goes to New York for a pickup game at MSG on Monday.

Jazz have no injuries.

Eddie Jones is doubtful.
Devin Harris can't shoot for shit right now, and the Mavs don't seem interested in playing defense.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...mavs/stories/120707dnspomavsdate.296825f.html

Utah has the second best field goal percentage at 49.6.
Utah is last in the league scoring three points made with 4.0 per game.
Utah is second in rebounds allowed in the league at 38.4.

Dallas leads the league in free throw percentage with 84.6.

Utah is 11-5 SU in its last 16 games
Utah is 2-5 SU in its last 7 games on the road
Utah is 3-8 SU in its last 11 games when playing Dallas

Dallas is 1-8 ATS in its last 9 games
Dallas is 3-6 SU in its last 9 games
Dallas is 0-5 ATS in its last 5 games at home
Dallas is 10-2 SU in its last 12 games at home
Dallas is 6-2 ATS in its last 8 games when playing at home against Utah
Dallas is 7-1 SU in its last 8 games when playing at home against Utah

Jazz are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 Saturday games.
Jazz are 4-10 ATS in their last 14 road games.
Jazz are 5-16 ATS in their last 21 games playing on 0 days rest.
Jazz are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games as an underdog.
Jazz are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games when their starting 5 players combine for more than 160 minutes of the previous day.

Mavericks are 9-23 ATS in their last 32 games playing on 1 days rest.
Mavericks are 9-24 ATS in their last 33 games as a favorite.
Mavericks are 1-8 ATS in their last 9 games overall.
Mavericks are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 Saturday games.
Mavericks are 0-6 ATS in their last 6 games as a home favorite.

Home team is 13-3-1 ATS in the last 17 meetings.
Jazz are 5-2-1 ATS in the last 8 meetings.
Jazz are 2-6 ATS in the last 8 meetings in Dallas.

Dallas has been less than impressive recently...especially defensively. And while Dirk got his shot back last game, the team as a whole still isn't getting it done(41%), and for a great rebounding team like Utah, that's going to be awful tough for the Mavs.

Jazz +210 for me.
 
books still treating mavs like this is last years version lol -6 is crazy but then again the jazz did lose to the knicks on the road
 
Sacramento @ Denver

Current Line Nuggets -14 and Total 213 to 214.

Glad I didn't get it early at 216.5...

Sacramento lost at home to the Clippers on Friday.
Nuggets beat the Mavs in Dallas on Thursday.

Next,
Sacramento hosts Milwaukee on Monday.
Denver hosts the Hornets on Wednesday.

Kevin Martin is out with a sore pussy.
Shareef Abdur-Rahim is out with a flat tire.
Mike Bibby is out with his thumb up his ass.

Nothing new for the Nugs, but Kenyon Martin has been a offensive beast...

Sacramento has the third best free throw percentage in the league at 80.1.
Sacramento has the second worst rebounds in the league at 39.6.

Denver is the third highest scoring team in the league at 107.4 points per game.
Denver has the second worst rebounds allowed in the league at 47.7.

Sacramento is 8-15 SU in its last 23 games
Sacramento is 1-6 ATS in its last 7 games on the road
Sacramento is 0-5 SU in its last 5 games on the road
Sacramento is 5-1-1 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Denver
Sacramento is 17-6 SU in its last 23 games when playing Denver
Sacramento is 5-10 ATS in its last 15 games when playing on the road against Denver
Sacramento is 2-5 SU in its last 7 games when playing on the road against Denver

Denver is 10-5 SU in its last 15 games
Denver is 6-3 ATS in its last 9 games at home
Denver is 7-2 SU in its last 9 games at home

Kings are 6-1-1 ATS in their last 8 Saturday games.
Kings are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games as an underdog.
Kings are 1-6 ATS in their last 7 games as a road underdog.

Under is 5-1 in the last 6 meetings in Denver.
Kings are 5-1-1 ATS in the last 7 meetings.
Under is 7-2 in the last 9 meetings.
Underdog is 4-0-1 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
Road team is 4-0-1 ATS in the last 5 meetings.

Over is 6-0-1 in Kings last 7 games playing on 0 days rest.
Over is 6-1-1 in Kings last 8 games when their starting 5 players combine for more than 160 minutes on the previous day.
Over is 4-1 in Kings last 5 road games.
Over is 19-7 in Kings last 26 games as a road underdog.

Under is 4-0 in Nuggets last 4 games following a S.U. win.
Under is 5-1 in Nuggets last 6 games following a SU win of more than 10 points.
Under is 5-1 in Nuggets last 6 games following a ATS win.
Under is 4-1 in Nuggets last 5 games vs. a team with a winning % below .400.
Under is 4-1 in Nuggets last 5 home games vs. a team with a road winning % of less than .400.
Over is 4-1 in Nuggets last 5 after allowing 100 points or more in their previous game.
Under is 7-2 in Nuggets last 9 games as a home favorite of 11.0 or greater.
Under is 7-2 in Nuggets last 9 games as a favorite of 11.0 or greater.
Under is 13-4 in Nuggets last 17 vs. Western Conference.
Under is 9-3 in Nuggets last 12 games playing on 1 days rest.
Under is 6-2 in Nuggets last 8 vs. a team with a losing S.U. record.

Over is 6-0-1 in Kings last 7 games playing on 0 days rest.
Over is 8-1 in Kings last 9 games as an underdog of 11.0 or greater.
Over is 8-1 in Kings last 9 games as a road underdog of 11.0 or greater.
Under is 7-1 in Kings last 8 vs. a team with a winning S.U. record.
Over is 6-1-1 in Kings last 8 games when their starting 5 players combine for more than 160 minutes on the previous day.
Over is 4-1 in Kings last 5 road games.
Over is 13-4 in Kings last 17 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.
Over is 25-9-1 in Kings last 35 games following a S.U. loss.
Over is 19-7 in Kings last 26 games as a road underdog.
Over is 5-2-1 in Kings last 8 vs. NBA Northwest.
Over is 20-8 in Kings last 28 road games vs. a team with a home winning % of greater than .600.
Over is 15-6 in Kings last 21 games as an underdog.

kooky trends. This seems like a good over spot to me, and I'll play it before gametime if it stays good...
 
Horus said:
books still treating mavs like this is last years version lol -6 is crazy but then again the jazz did lose to the knicks on the road
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yes, well, anyone can lose on a given day. But I have odds for the Jazz, so I'm happy.
 
how about the 10 point loss at sacramento where john salmons dominated utah in the 4th quarter a few days ago? or maybe the 20 point loss at indiana? as much as dallas sucks, they will beat utah by double digits tonight.
 
Dallas -6.0
unmatched +106 $10,000.00 $10,600.00
This portion of your bet will be live until cancelled.

go match my bet
 
probably, i do this for a living

take dallas -6 tonight, they are coming off a rare loss at home
 
looks like someone matched your bet awful quick though, cus it sure ain't there.

you wouldn't *gasp* lie about your wager, would you?
 
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</td><td align="center">12/08/07 13:24</td><td align="right">+106</td><td align="right">10,000.00</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
CLEARLY the Jazz are chumps on the road.

please offer more thoughtful insights. This is entertaining.
 
hahaha....

do you really care?

fine.

ML dogs: 19-21, 47.5%, +15.72 units

I know I know...it sucks. I can't even win half my games.

:shake:
 
bulls basically signed nichols to pick his brain about the cleveland system. i doubt he sees time but then again skiles tends to play anyone seated within three rows of the chicago bench.
 
smoke said:
whats with all the hostility bro, i like your style
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here's what you've done repeatedly.

I post a play explaining I think my chance of winning is something like 40%, and I have 2:1 on it.

you show up and say, "<--insert team redbearde is fading here--> rolls" or "<--insert team redbearde is backing here--> are chumps".

which is essentially saying, "you're gonna lose".

you don't back it up. you don't offer anything constructive. you simply make a declaration. And you're a dick about it.

today it became, "I'm putting 10 grand on Dallas" and "I make my living doing this".

Personally...I'm really glad I don't have to make my living doing this, and that when Dallas wins you'll be able to pay your bills and I will only lose a couple big macs. But it's still irritating. It's a lot like this, "sucker bet" shit you used to put in SportsNut's threads.

If you want to contribute to the site, that's fine. If you just want to be dick, then that's not fine.

okay?
 
Sure I do.

I gotta split. only other thing I might add is the Cavs/Kitties under.

This has gone from something like 177 to 184.5, and I'm stunned.
 
I'm going to church. While it's probably something of an anachronism to most folks around here, I like Great Vespers quite a lot, and in that I have to sing the majority of it, I can't be posting to CTG while there.

:shake:
 
church was semi flooded. a pipe burst. that sucked.

Ray, kook, let's get the grizz, fellas.

Cavs/Kitties Under 184.5 -102

I don't understand it, but I'll take it. +100 has $290 left at MB right now.

more at more juice.
 
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