NBA Discussion: Week Of 1/9/2017

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New Orleans / New York

Under is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings.
Home team is 5-0 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
Under is 5-1 in the last 6 meetings in New York.
Pelicans are 5-12 ATS in the last 17 meetings.
Pelicans are 2-6 ATS in the last 8 meetings in New York.

Oklahoma City / Chicago

Under is 5-1 in the last 6 meetings in Chicago.
Favorite is 8-3 ATS in the last 11 meetings.
Under is 10-4 in the last 14 meetings.

Dallas / Minnesota

Mavericks are 4-0 ATS in the last 4 meetings.
Under is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings in Minnesota.
Favorite is 4-0 ATS in the last 4 meetings.
Under is 4-1-1 in the last 6 meetings.
Mavericks are 16-5 ATS in the last 21 meetings in Minnesota.
Road team is 36-16 ATS in the last 52 meetings.
 
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t:team = Knicks and HF and date >= 20151028

19-4 (6.70, 82.6%)
17-6-0 (2.24, 73.9%) avg line: -4.5
9-14-0 (-0.24, 39.1%) avg total: 202.8

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Average line is good and truth be told I found a -160 and played it that way for a decent size bet.

Utah was brutal last night with Memphis doing everything they could in the third quarter to give the game to Utah. Then when Utah didn't want it Memphis caught a second wind and that was that.

Good Luck hugh it's time!!
 
utah did suck yesterday.... it was 5th in 7 nights but i sold myself on that by looking how they fared in the situation and they have been good the past couple years.... i gotta stop playing them on the road
 
nbafan88 said:
utah did suck yesterday.... it was 5th in 7 nights but i sold myself on that by looking how they fared in the situation and they have been good the past couple years.... i gotta stop playing them on the road
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I think emkee has it right stay away from them period. I played them four times recently and was never in the game, oh wait I'm lying there was the one time they did come home for me.
I was also looking at a couple of things I didn't like but it was more a case against Memphis then Utah I guess.
 
Utah shouldn't be dogged at home when healthy to anybody except the Warriors imo. Don't think Cleveland cares enough to win this game 5 out of 10 times.
 
raems said:
Utah shouldn't be dogged at home when healthy to anybody except the Warriors imo. Don't think Cleveland cares enough to win this game 5 out of 10 times.
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yeah and at the same time, it would be a big win for Utah to show themselves and fans that they have arrived and are legitimately a top tier team now. I like it.
 
“Knicks officials didn’t hear from Rose that he was OK until after an embarrassing loss to New Orleans, a confirmation that sources said began the next conversation within the organization: What do they do with Rose now?”

In other news, if the Hawks buyout Dunleavy the Dubs want to sign him.
 
A little confused by the remarks about Utah. Not on my card currently. over 225 in Houston is in and strong interest in Toronto and the over. Lots of plays
 
A little confused by the remarks about Utah. Not on my card currently. over 225 in Houston is in and strong interest in Toronto and the over. Lots of plays. Washington a maybe
 
The Lakers are the best ATS team against the East since 2014.


The 76ers are the best ATS against the West since 2014.


interesting.....


plus during the same time the lakers have the worst ATS record vs the western conference
 
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Klay resting today..... weak.

Klay Thompson (rest) out Tuesday vs. MIA

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Klay Thompson (rest) has been ruled out for Tuesday's game against the Heat.

This will be the first rest day that Steve Kerr is dishing out to one of his main guys this season, and we could see rookie Patrick McCaw earn his first career start tonight with Thompson on the sidelines. However, with Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant and Draymond Green all active, it's unlikely that McCaw will see much of a boost in value despite running with the starters. Andre Iguodala and Ian Clark should also pick up some extra minutes tonight sans Klay.
 
Avery Bradley OUT- achilles
L Aldridge OUT- illness

Make sure to check yourselves to see officially as things can change, but that's what's being posted at this time.

LaMarcus Aldridge (illness) out Tuesday

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LaMarcus Aldridge (gastroenteritis) will not play Tuesday vs. the Bucks.

The indomitable flu bug claims yet another victim. David Lee (knee) missed the Spurs previous game on Saturday, but practiced on Monday and is expected to be available on Tuesday. Lee drew the start last time Aldridge sat out. Davis Bertans, coming off a terrific game in which he scored 21 points in just 18 minutes on Saturday, will also see additional playing time on Tuesday. Bertans did start one game earlier this season in which Aldridge was rested.
 
nbafan88 said:
The Lakers are the best ATS team against the East since 2014.


The 76ers are the best ATS against the West since 2014.


interesting.....


plus during the same time the lakers have the worst ATS record vs the western conference
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The first two probably have to do with both of them being lined in double digits for most of those games, and up against huge spreads on the road, I presume.

As for that last one, hmm... Maybe it's a little easier for them to run against the non-running teams of the East, but not so easy against teams that are used to that style of pace in the West?
 
hugh613 said:
The first two probably have to do with both of them being lined in double digits for most of those games, and up against huge spreads on the road, I presume.

As for that last one, hmm... Maybe it's a little easier for them to run against the non-running teams of the East, but not so easy against teams that are used to that style of pace in the West?
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or maybe teams in the opposite conference dont care as much vs bottom dwellers..... and they dont want to be embarrassed vs the terrible teams in their own conference
 
exactly, western teams see games against philly as a night off, so all philly (the way they have been the last 4 years) has to do is show up with a pulse and they can stay within 12, which is usually good for a cover based on the line
 
Not to mention those big west coast favs are always pushed up a point or two by public bettors chasing losses for the day
 
Bulls fan here. Team is all under the weather vs. a team that seems to dominate them all of the time.

Just not enough minutes to slow down a surging Wizards team. Should win by 20. Expect to see a ton of Grant, Valentine, and Portis... who all haven't played together that much to date.

Juicy but feels like the right play.

​WIZARDS -11.5 5 Units
 
Let's pretend I didn't post that. Wizards playing without any effort and Bulls can't miss. Didn't cap for Rondo playing and he gave them a huge spark. Moving on..
 
If LeCramps loses in Utah tonight he will be on an 0-6 SU streak in the Mormon State.

Good thing the Jizz will never make the Finals in his career.
 
Not a fan of this loud, obnoxious fool but agree with his take on D Rose...

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W/L record not reflective of Memphis's overall team quality. Their point differential is that of a completely average team, they're a point or two weaker than OKC. Home court gets you 3 points, being a slightly weaker team accounts for the extra 1.5 points, money coming in accounts for any line move off the 4.5.
 
Got OKC at -5 and Under 221 in Portland at the open.

OKC rested at home against an opponent that pissed them off last time, Memphis feeling good off a few big wins against the Warriors and Jazz.

Blazers and Cavs both on a back to back and neither team got sleep since of travel issues getting into Portland. Cavs got in at 2am western time and Portland even later since they had to fly to Seattle then take 3 hour bus. Think we'll see a bunch of jumpers hitting front rim tonight.
 
this is astonishing to me

Celtics home games in the Steven's era vs teams after losing by 20+ in the last matchup.....

team = Celtics and P:margin <= -20 and H and season >= 2013
SU:0-8 (-12.62, 0.0%)
ATS:1-7-0 (-9.56, 12.5%) avg line: 3.1
O/U:4-4-0 (1.19, 50.0%) avg total: 199.9

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Opp41.2551.017.7576.86.6237.35.628.3842.0020.6223.5012.2526.626.826.527.0106.9

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recap Mon 2013 Celtics Rockets home 92-104 1&1 6.5 207.5 -12 -5.5 -11.5 -8.5 -3.0 L L U 0
recap Sat 2013 Celtics Pacers home 97-102 2&1 7.5 192.5 -5 2.5 6.5 4.5 2.0 L W O 0
recap Wed 2013 Celtics Wizards home 102-118 1&1 7.5 199.0 -16 -8.5 21.0 6.2 14.8 L L O 0
recap Fri 2015 Celtics Hawks home 101-109 1&1 -3.5 206.5 -8 -11.5 3.5 -4.0 7.5 L L O 0
recap Wed 2016 Celtics Wizards home 0&0 -6.5 217.5

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Where does Melo get traded ?

Time to blow up the Knicks and rebuild around Kristaps.
 
You guys think teams are interested in Melo? I guess there would be a few teams interested but I wouldn't do it. If I was Boston I'd stay away from him. Got a good thing building up there, don't ruin it.
 
Right coach, right team maybe Melo can help a team make a run. Surely dude has some desire to win a 'ship.
 
melo has never had a respectable coach, thats for damn sure

look what bud is doing with Dwight....


contrary to what many think, coaches are important....
 
Coaches are important, and that's why Lebron is careful who he hires.
 
nbafan88 said:
Lebron is the de facto coach & GM
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It's probably not the best organizational structure, but he's not half bad at it. Lue's pretty good. I don't think he coaches Lebron, but the other guys hear him.
 
LeCramps 0-2 with the Cavs in Portland since his return losing by an average of 24 points.
 
nbafan88 said:
melo has never had a respectable coach, thats for damn sure

look what bud is doing with Dwight....


contrary to what many think, coaches are important....
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Coaching surely not the problem with Melo. He's played for some top 10 coaches (at the time) in the league in Karl and D'Antoni.

He's out of shape. Probably the oldest 32 year old I've ever seen. Well documented. Worst player in the history of the NBA in terms of W/L
 
80-20 rule applies in Portland, Blazers should cover and/or win.

No play for me given the Cavs lost last night.

80-20's have been rolling of late.
 
nbafan88 said:
melo has never had a respectable coach, thats for damn sure

look what bud is doing with Dwight....


contrary to what many think, coaches are important....
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George Karl is certainly a respectable coach. WTF are you talking about?

Great that Bud is doing something with Dwight...he's also had a couple pretty good coaches himself, about time he finally started listening (if the coach gets the credit).
 
nbafan88 said:
melo has never had a respectable coach, thats for damn sure

look what bud is doing with Dwight....


contrary to what many think, coaches are important....
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Wouldn't matter if Red Auerbach were his coach, some guys are just 'me-first' players and will never change...

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The more I here about George Karl, the more he sounds like a disrespected coach at least by his players.

Not many players have come into defend the old guy after his recent grumpy mumblings.

But yeah, Melo plays the game to cash checks not win and would be hard to motivate.
 
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