BetCrimes1984
CTG Big Brother
I initially gathered these figures (based on opening lines) together midway through the 06-07 season, to test the veracity of the belief that said the time to fade teams off longish road trips (longish = 4 or more games in length, since that usually translates to at least a week's absence from ones own homecourt) was in their first game back home.
The clear message from these (fully updated) figures is - it isn't the 1st game back @home where you find a real advantage in fading a team, it's in their 2nd game back.
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The overall ATS figures for the last 14 seasons are as follows -
For the 1st game off a 4+ game road trip - 493-523-24 .......... -30
For the 2nd game off a 4+ game road trip - 445-555-21 ........ -110
The ATS win rate for the 1st game is 48.52% vs. 44.50% for the 2nd game.
Of course the above figures are a lot more involved than what the surface facts provide. Different scenarios & teams means its not always that clean cut to say *never* bet a team in the 2nd game. On this basis, I've broken down each set of stats into the deeper scenarios, for 2 groupings: Teams coming off 4 game road trips, and teams coming off 5+ game road trips...
Note: where the All-Star break broke up a teams road trip, or broke up a team's return game/games, they have been excluded.
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Teams off 4 game road trips
1st Game Back - Eastern teams
Overall ............................................ 124-129-7
As the Fav ........................................ 78-85-5
As the Dog ....................................... 46-44-2
vs. Conference teams ...................... 78-81-7
vs. non-Conference teams ............... 46-48
vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................... 55-55-5
vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................. 23-26-2
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............ 23-30
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ........... 23-18
1st Game Back - Western teams
Overall ............................................. 131-143-10
As the Fav ......................................... 96-101-8
As the Dog ........................................ 35-42-2
vs. Conference teams ....................... 80-90-7
vs. non-Conference teams ................ 51-53-3
vs. Conf teams as a Fav .................... 53-62-6
vs. Conf teams as a Dog ................... 27-28-1
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav.............. 43-39-2
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog .............. 8-14-1
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2nd game Back - Eastern teams
Home game ....................................... 58-85-4
Road game ........................................ 51-55-3
@Home as a Fav ............................. 35-50-2
@Home as a Dog ............................ 23-35-2
on the Road as a Fav ...................... 14-11-2
on the Road as a Dog ...................... 37-44-1
@Home vs. Conf teams .................. 44-50-1
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ........... 14-35-3
on the Road vs. Conf teams ............ 44-50-3
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams ....... 7-5
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ..................... 26-30-1
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................... 18-20
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ................ 9-20-1
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ............... 5-15-2
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ............... 13-11-2
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog .............. 31-39-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ......... 1-0
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ......... 6-5
2nd game Back - Western teams
Home game ..................................... 86-108-4
Road game ...................................... 42-38-1
@Home as a Fav ............................ 62-80-3
@Home as a Dog ........................... 24-28-1
on the Road as a Fav ..................... 10-6
on the Road as a Dog ..................... 32-32-1
@Home vs. Conf teams .................. 55-80-4
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ........... 31-28
on the Road vs. Conf teams ............ 26-32-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams ..... 16-6
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ..................... 38-59-3
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................... 17-21-1
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............... 24-21
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ................ 7-7
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................. 7-6
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog .............. 19-26-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ......... 3-0
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ....... 13-6
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Teams off 5+ game road trips
1st Game Back - Eastern teams
Overall .......................................... 108-131-2
As the Fav ....................................... 65-94-2
As the Dog ...................................... 43-37
vs. Conference teams ..................... 75-80-1
vs. non-Conference teams .............. 33-51-1
vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................. 48-57-1
vs. Conf teams as a Dog ................. 27-23
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav .......... 17-37-1
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ......... 16-14
1st Game Back - Western teams
Overall .......................................... 130-120-5
As the Fav ...................................... 86-90-3
As the Dog ..................................... 44-30-2
vs. Conference teams .................... 80-69-2
vs. non-Conference teams ............. 50-51-3
vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................ 49-46-1
vs. Conf teams as a Dog ............... 31-23-1
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ......... 37-44-2
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ........ 13-7-1
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2nd game Back - Eastern teams
Home game ................................... 74-66-4
Road game .................................... 37-56-1
@Home as a Fav ........................... 47-49-2
@Home as a Dog .......................... 27-17-2
on the Road as a Fav .................... 13-9-1
on the Road as a Dog .................... 24-47
@Home vs. Conf teams ................ 46-48-4
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ......... 28-18
on the Road vs. Conf teams .......... 34-50-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams ..... 3-6
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ..................... 30-38-2
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................... 16-10-2
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............... 17-11
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog .............. 11-7
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ............... 12-8-1
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog .............. 22-42
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav .......... 1-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ......... 2-5
2nd game Back - Western teams
Home game .................................. 63-91-2
Road game ................................... 34-56-2
@Home as a Fav ......................... 47-60-2
@Home as a Dog ........................ 16-31
on the Road as a Fav ................... 12-14
on the Road as a Dog .................. 22-42-2
@Home vs. Conf teams ............... 38-63-2
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ........ 25-28
on the Road vs. Conf teams ......... 28-50-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams .... 6-6-1
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ...................... 29-37-2
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog ....................... 9-26
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............... 18-23
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ................ 7-5
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................ 11-12
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog ............... 17-38-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ........... 1-2
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog .......... 5-4-1
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Looking at the combined numbers in these categories that stay true in nature, no matter coming off a 4 or 5+ game road trip...
West - 2nd game as a Dog vs. Conf. teams .................. 33-75-1
4-11 in '13-14
3-9-1 in '14-15
6-10 in '15-16
5-8 in '16-17
West - 2nd game @Home vs. Conf. teams ................... 92-140-6
7-12 in '13-14
6-8 in '14-15
8-7 in '15-16
10-6 in '16-17
East - 2nd game @Home as a Fave vs. Conf. teams ... 57-68-3
2-4 in '13-14
4-5 in '14-15
8-0 in '15-16
8-5 in '16-17
East - 2nd game Away as a Dog vs. Conf. teams ........ 53-81-1
3-3 in '13-14
7-2 in '14-15
4-9 in '15-16
3-5-1 in '16-17
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The majority of teams do not win or lose both games ATS, rather they have a general tendency to split results over the 2 games (splits incl. a push result married w/either a win or loss)...
Off 4 game road trips (last 14 seasons)
Win both ......... 22.74%
Lose both ........ 29.32%
Split results ..... 47.94%
Off 5+ game road trips (last 14 seasons)
Win both ......... 21.65%
Lose both ........ 30.10%
Split results ..... 48.25%
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The clear message from these (fully updated) figures is - it isn't the 1st game back @home where you find a real advantage in fading a team, it's in their 2nd game back.
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The overall ATS figures for the last 14 seasons are as follows -
For the 1st game off a 4+ game road trip - 493-523-24 .......... -30
For the 2nd game off a 4+ game road trip - 445-555-21 ........ -110
The ATS win rate for the 1st game is 48.52% vs. 44.50% for the 2nd game.
Of course the above figures are a lot more involved than what the surface facts provide. Different scenarios & teams means its not always that clean cut to say *never* bet a team in the 2nd game. On this basis, I've broken down each set of stats into the deeper scenarios, for 2 groupings: Teams coming off 4 game road trips, and teams coming off 5+ game road trips...
Note: where the All-Star break broke up a teams road trip, or broke up a team's return game/games, they have been excluded.
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Teams off 4 game road trips
1st Game Back - Eastern teams
Overall ............................................ 124-129-7
As the Fav ........................................ 78-85-5
As the Dog ....................................... 46-44-2
vs. Conference teams ...................... 78-81-7
vs. non-Conference teams ............... 46-48
vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................... 55-55-5
vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................. 23-26-2
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............ 23-30
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ........... 23-18
1st Game Back - Western teams
Overall ............................................. 131-143-10
As the Fav ......................................... 96-101-8
As the Dog ........................................ 35-42-2
vs. Conference teams ....................... 80-90-7
vs. non-Conference teams ................ 51-53-3
vs. Conf teams as a Fav .................... 53-62-6
vs. Conf teams as a Dog ................... 27-28-1
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav.............. 43-39-2
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog .............. 8-14-1
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2nd game Back - Eastern teams
Home game ....................................... 58-85-4
Road game ........................................ 51-55-3
@Home as a Fav ............................. 35-50-2
@Home as a Dog ............................ 23-35-2
on the Road as a Fav ...................... 14-11-2
on the Road as a Dog ...................... 37-44-1
@Home vs. Conf teams .................. 44-50-1
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ........... 14-35-3
on the Road vs. Conf teams ............ 44-50-3
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams ....... 7-5
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ..................... 26-30-1
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................... 18-20
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ................ 9-20-1
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ............... 5-15-2
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ............... 13-11-2
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog .............. 31-39-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ......... 1-0
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ......... 6-5
2nd game Back - Western teams
Home game ..................................... 86-108-4
Road game ...................................... 42-38-1
@Home as a Fav ............................ 62-80-3
@Home as a Dog ........................... 24-28-1
on the Road as a Fav ..................... 10-6
on the Road as a Dog ..................... 32-32-1
@Home vs. Conf teams .................. 55-80-4
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ........... 31-28
on the Road vs. Conf teams ............ 26-32-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams ..... 16-6
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ..................... 38-59-3
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................... 17-21-1
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............... 24-21
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ................ 7-7
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................. 7-6
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog .............. 19-26-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ......... 3-0
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ....... 13-6
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Teams off 5+ game road trips
1st Game Back - Eastern teams
Overall .......................................... 108-131-2
As the Fav ....................................... 65-94-2
As the Dog ...................................... 43-37
vs. Conference teams ..................... 75-80-1
vs. non-Conference teams .............. 33-51-1
vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................. 48-57-1
vs. Conf teams as a Dog ................. 27-23
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav .......... 17-37-1
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ......... 16-14
1st Game Back - Western teams
Overall .......................................... 130-120-5
As the Fav ...................................... 86-90-3
As the Dog ..................................... 44-30-2
vs. Conference teams .................... 80-69-2
vs. non-Conference teams ............. 50-51-3
vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................ 49-46-1
vs. Conf teams as a Dog ............... 31-23-1
vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ......... 37-44-2
vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ........ 13-7-1
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2nd game Back - Eastern teams
Home game ................................... 74-66-4
Road game .................................... 37-56-1
@Home as a Fav ........................... 47-49-2
@Home as a Dog .......................... 27-17-2
on the Road as a Fav .................... 13-9-1
on the Road as a Dog .................... 24-47
@Home vs. Conf teams ................ 46-48-4
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ......... 28-18
on the Road vs. Conf teams .......... 34-50-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams ..... 3-6
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ..................... 30-38-2
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog .................... 16-10-2
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............... 17-11
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog .............. 11-7
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ............... 12-8-1
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog .............. 22-42
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav .......... 1-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ......... 2-5
2nd game Back - Western teams
Home game .................................. 63-91-2
Road game ................................... 34-56-2
@Home as a Fav ......................... 47-60-2
@Home as a Dog ........................ 16-31
on the Road as a Fav ................... 12-14
on the Road as a Dog .................. 22-42-2
@Home vs. Conf teams ............... 38-63-2
@Home vs. non-Conf teams ........ 25-28
on the Road vs. Conf teams ......... 28-50-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams .... 6-6-1
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Fav ...................... 29-37-2
@Home vs. Conf teams as a Dog ....................... 9-26
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ............... 18-23
@Home vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog ................ 7-5
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Fav ................ 11-12
on the Road vs. Conf teams as a Dog ............... 17-38-1
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Fav ........... 1-2
on the Road vs. non-Conf teams as a Dog .......... 5-4-1
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Looking at the combined numbers in these categories that stay true in nature, no matter coming off a 4 or 5+ game road trip...
West - 2nd game as a Dog vs. Conf. teams .................. 33-75-1
4-11 in '13-14
3-9-1 in '14-15
6-10 in '15-16
5-8 in '16-17
West - 2nd game @Home vs. Conf. teams ................... 92-140-6
7-12 in '13-14
6-8 in '14-15
8-7 in '15-16
10-6 in '16-17
East - 2nd game @Home as a Fave vs. Conf. teams ... 57-68-3
2-4 in '13-14
4-5 in '14-15
8-0 in '15-16
8-5 in '16-17
East - 2nd game Away as a Dog vs. Conf. teams ........ 53-81-1
3-3 in '13-14
7-2 in '14-15
4-9 in '15-16
3-5-1 in '16-17
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The majority of teams do not win or lose both games ATS, rather they have a general tendency to split results over the 2 games (splits incl. a push result married w/either a win or loss)...
Off 4 game road trips (last 14 seasons)
Win both ......... 22.74%
Lose both ........ 29.32%
Split results ..... 47.94%
Off 5+ game road trips (last 14 seasons)
Win both ......... 21.65%
Lose both ........ 30.10%
Split results ..... 48.25%
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