NBA 06-07 230/100-100 Thread

BOS 119 ----played 1st---> on the road vs CHA = Over
DEN 114 ----played 2nd---> on the road vs NYK = Over


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 5-4 to Over (BOS)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 2-2 (DEN)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, on the road = 4-3 to Under (BOS)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a loss, on the road = 5-1 to Under (DEN)

- Playing 1st off a 4-6 margin result = 11-8 to Under (BOS)
- Playing 2nd off a 4-6 margin result = 9-7 to Under (DEN)

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GDS 115 ----played 1st---> on the road vs NJY = Under
TOR 120 ----played 2nd---> on the road vs PHX = Under

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 3-2 to Over (TOR)

- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a win, on the road = 5-4 to Under (TOR)

- Playing 2nd off a 4-6 margin result = 9-8 to Under (TOR)

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WAS 147 ---played 1st---> on the road vs DEN = Over
LAK. 141 ---played 2nd---> on the road vs CHC = Under
OT

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 2-1 to Over (LAK)

- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a loss, on the road = 2-1 to Under (LAK)

- Playing 2nd off a 4-6 margin result = 9-8 to Under (LAK)

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MEM 134 ---played 1st---> on the road vs SAS = Over
SEA 126 ---played 2nd---> @home vs DAL = Over
2 OT

This season & last
Teams playing 2nd @home vs Conf teams off OT were 6-2 to Under (SEA)

Teams playing 2nd off a loss, @home, off OT were 5-0 to Under (SEA)

Playing 2nd off a 7-9 pt margin result = 9-5 to Over (SEA)

Some cracking indicators for Unders here. While the margin range stats arent as good, they of course incl. all games, not just OT ones. Therefore I personally think it safe to let them take a back seat to the other figures, which combined over the 2 (coming games) are 20-3 to Under. I think it highly likely at least 1, if not both, of these games record an Under result.
 
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SAC. 119 ---played 1st---> on the road vs DEN = Under
WAS 126 ---played 2nd---> on the road vs PHX = Over

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WAS 144 --played 1st---> @Home vs MEM = Over
PHX. 139 --played 2nd----> @Home vs POR = Under
OT

 
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Having just gone back over the records for this season and last, Wash is now 10-3 to Over off a 230/100-100 game, an even worse Under record than what PHX boasts. Given I have *banned* recording results from GDS, PHX & MIL, its clearly been an oversight to have *permitted* the recording of Wash's results, to this point, when they so clearly resemble the 3 aforementioned teams. I will move to strike their results from the seasons records kept to date (04-05-06), which should result in a clearer picture painted for the *more normal* teams.
 
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DET 145 ---played 1st---> @Home vs IND = Under
NYK 151 -played 2nd-> on the road vs PHX = Under
3 OT

This Season & Last
Teams playing 1st @home, off OT vs Conf. teams were 4-1 to Under (DET)
Teams playing 2nd on the road, off OT vs Conf teams were 2-2 (NYK)

Teams playing 1st @home, off an OT loss were 2-2 (DET)
Teams playing 2nd on the road, off an OT win were 4-1 to Over (NYK)

Playing 1st off a 4-6 pt margin result = 9-9 (DET)
Playing 2nd off a 4-6 pt margin result = 11-6 to Under (NYK)

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CHA 133 --played 1st---> on the road vs IND = Over
LAK 124 --played 2nd---> @Home vs PHI = Over
3 OT

This season & last
Teams playing 1st on the road, off OT vs Conf. teams were 5-1 to Under (CHA)
Teams playing 2nd @home, off OT vs non-Conf teams were 1-0 to Under (LAK)

Teams playing 1st on the road, off an OT win were 2-1 to Under (CHA)
Teams playing 2nd @home, off an OT loss were 5-1 to Under (LAK)

Playing 1st off a 7-9 pt margin result = 5-4-1 to Under (CHA)
Playing 2nd off a 7-9 pt margin result = 9-5 to Over (LAK)


 
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MEM 144 ----played 1st---> @home vs BOS = Over
GDS 135 ----played 2nd---> @home vs SEA = Under
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LAK 132 ----played 1st---> @home vs DEN = Over
SAC 128 ---played 2nd---> @home vs POR = Under (in regulation)
OT


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, @home vs Conf teams = 5-1 to Under (LAK)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, @home vs Conf teams = 6-3 to Under (SAC)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a win, @home = 4-0 to Under (LAK)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a loss, @home = 5-2 to Under (SAC)

- Playing 1st off a 4-6 margin result = 10-9 to Under (LAK)
- Playing 2nd off a 4-6 margin result = 12-6 to Under (SAC)

Every category leads to Under for both these teams next games, and both those games concern teams themselves who have put up a few Unders recently (POR U/O 9-3 last 12, DEN U/O 4-2 last 6). Another situation where I highly doubt both these games go Over.


 
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Action, I'd lean more on the LA game going under than the MEM game. Boston seems to be finally rounding into some over form after playing out unders you'd have expected from them after losing Pierce.
 
MEM 119 --played 1st--> @home vs SAS = Under
BOS 128 --played 2nd--> on the road vs ORL = Under


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 7-3 to Under (BOS)

- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a win, on the road = 6-4 to Under (BOS)

- Playing 2nd off a 7-9 margin result = 10-5 to Over (BOS)

It looks likely that I'll cease to keep the Grizzlies results maintained in the overall records, with their style transformation (& hence join DEN, PHX, GDS & WAS as amongst "the ranks of the damned", lol). But my back editing out of their previous efforts would only extend to the beginning of said change. However, concerning this particular coming game for them, they may just have found the right opponent to match their spot to end their current Over binge.
 
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PHX 128 ----played 1st---> @home vs SEA = Under
GDS 105 ----played 2nd---> @home vs ORL = Under
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LAK. 118 ---played 1st---> on the road vs HOU = Under
MEM 128 ---played 2nd---> @home vs MIN = Over
 
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<HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->CHA 126 ----played 1st---> @home vs PHI = Under
NYK 110 ----played 2nd---> @home vs SAC = Under

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, @home vs Conf teams = 7-6 to Under (CHA)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, @home vs non-Conf teams = 4-3 to Under (NYK)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, @home = 5-3 to Under (CHA)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a loss, @home = 4-3 to Under (NYK)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 6-4 to Under (CHA)
- Playing 2nd off a 10+ margin result = 9-4 to Under (NYK)

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UTH 114 ----played 1st---> @home vs MIA = Over
SEA 122 ----played 2nd---> @home vs CLE = Over

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, @home vs non-Conf teams = 5-2 to Under (UTH)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, @home vs non-Conf teams = 4-3 to Under (SEA)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a loss, @home = 7-6 to Under (UTH)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a win, @home = 6-5 to Over (SEA)

- Playing 1st off a 7-9 margin result = 5-5-1 (UTH)
- Playing 2nd off a 7-9 margin result = 10-6 to Over (SEA)
 
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LAK 124 --played 1st--> on the road vs SAS = Under
MIA 118 --played 2nd------> @home vs IND = Over
OT

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, on the road vs Conf teams = 5-2 to Under (LAK)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, @home vs Conf teams = 7-5 to Over (MIA)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a win, on the road = 2-2 (LAK)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a loss, @home = 6-2 to Under (MIA)

- Playing 1st off a 4-6 margin result = 10-10 (LAK)
- Playing 2nd off a 4-6 margin result = 13-6 to Under (MIA)

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MEM 122 --played 1st-------> @home vs PHI = Over
PHX. 137 --played 2nd--> on the road vs HOU = Under

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BC,

SEA 122 ----played 2nd---> @home vs CLE = Under

this game went over. The opening line was 196 and the final was 197. At worst it was a push althouhg I saw a closing line at 198 at the greek.
 
scourge, thanks for pointing that out. I took the final score off yahoo's gamecast (which said 101-94 at the time I read it). I just now see yahoo's NBA page has a 101-96 final score.
 
DEN 121 ----played 1st---> @home vs MEM = Under
HOU 113 ---played 2nd---> on the road vs SAS = Under
OT


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, @home vs Conf teams = 5-2 to Under (DEN)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, on the road vs Conf teams = 2-2 (HOU)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a win, @home = 4-1 to Under (DEN)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a loss, on the road = 3-0 to Under (HOU)

- Playing 1st off a 7-9 margin result = 6-5-1 to Over (DEN)
- Playing 2nd off a 7-9 margin result = 11-5 to Over (HOU)

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MIN 102 ----played 1st----> on the road vs UTH = Over
PHX 131 ----played 2nd---> on the road vs WAS = Over

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 6-4 to Under (MIN)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a loss, on the road = 6-4-1 to Under (MIN)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 7-4 to Under (MIN)
 
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PHX. 127 ----played 1st----> on the road vs NYK = Over
WAS 105 ----plays 2nd---> on the road vs DET = Under

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CLE 115
PHI 118 ------> these teams played a rematch = Over
2 OT

This is only the 2nd time I've recorded 2 teams having a repeat match-up off a 230/100-100 game, the first time off one which went into OT.

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MEM 132 --played 1st--> on the road vs SAS = Under
UTH 130 ----played 2nd----> @home vs DEN = Over
OT

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, @home vs Conf teams = 7-4 to Under (UTH)

- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a loss, @home = 6-3 to Under (UTH)

- Playing 2nd off a 1-3 margin result = 6-4 to Under (UTH)

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POR. 135 --played 1st--> on the road vs NOK = Over
MEM 132 ----played 2nd----> @home vs SAC = Over
2 OT

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, on the road vs Conf teams = 6-2 to Under (POR)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a win, on the road = 3-2 to Under (POR)

- Playing 1st off a 1-3 margin result = 11-0 to Under (POR)

Both of these games have the same start time on the same night, and as I dont record stats for MEM regarding this trend, it therefore makes sense to categorize POR as playing 1st.

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CHA 105 ---played 1st---> on the road vs DEN = Under
GDS 131 ---played 2nd---> on the road vs CLE = Over

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 4-2-1 to Under (CHA)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a loss, on the road = 6-5-1 to Under (CHA)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 7-5 to Under (CHA)
 
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To this point -

U/O 31-16 for teams whose results I record, that arent rematches*
U/O 12-18 for the 5 teams whose results I don't record.
U/O _0-2_ for teams that play rematches.

*I have decided not to record rematch results, and have removed those previous results from the records.

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NJY. 116 ----played 1st---> @home vs DET = Over
UTH 115 ----played 2nd---> @home vs SAS = Push

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, @home vs Conf teams = 7-5 to Under (NJY)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, @home vs Conf teams = 7-5 to Over (UTH)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, @home = 5-2 to Under (NJY)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a loss, @home = 4-4 (UTH)

- Playing 1st off a 1-3 margin result = 11-1 to Under (NJY)
- Playing 2nd off a 1-3 margin result = 6-5 to Under (UTH)
 
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MEM 124 ----played 1st----> @home vs DAL = Under
SAC 117 --played 2nd--> on the road vs MIN = Over


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 8-3 to Under (SAC)

- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a loss, on the road = 4-2 to Under (SAC)

- Playing 2nd off a 7-9 margin result = 11-7 to Over (SAC)


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MIN 121 ----played 1st---> @home vs SAC = Over
PHX 112 ----played 2nd---> @home vs SAS = Under


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, @home vs Conf teams = 7-5 to Under (MIN)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, @home = 5-2 to Under (MIN)

- Playing 1st off a 7-9 margin result = 6-5-1 to Under (MIN)
 
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Chaos - that refers to which order the teams coming off those results played in following that result. The team listed as 1st, had their next fixture closest to the 230 result, which means they had less time to recover from it, obviously.
 
excuse my tardiness, Lunch.

LAC 110 --played 1st--> on the road vs NYK = Under
TOR 122 ----played 2nd---> @home vs ORL = Over

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 4-2-1 to Under (LAC)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, @home vs Conf teams = 7-5 to Over (TOR)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a loss, on the road = 7-5-1 to Under (LAC)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a win, @home = 7-6 to Over (TOR)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 8-5 to Under (LAC)
- Playing 2nd off a 10+ margin result = 10-4 to Under (TOR)
 
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PHX 111 ----played 1st----> @home vs CHC = Over
ATL 120 --played 2nd--> on the road vs GDS = Over

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GDS 123 ----played 1st----> @home vs ATL = Over
CHC 121 --played 2nd--> on the road vs PHX = Over
OT


Wow, this is a crazy situation. I dont put results in the records for games involving PHX & GDS when those teams are coming off one of these games. I normally would ATL & CHC, except theyre each facing GDS & PHX :an_roll_laugh: So to record their results, would be breaking that rule regarding those no-defense teams. In this situation, I have to observe that the no-defense aspect rules the day, so none of these results will be logged into the records kept on page 1.

I think the post game results warranted my position.
 
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BC, what are your thoughts on the total for Stons/Clip tonight?
Thanks for the insight as always
 
mpnyc76 - to be honest, under looks a tad easy. I'd have expected this to open anywhere between 182-185. If it had, and money had moved it higher, I'd feel better about it than how things now stand. I also prefer to hit Clips Unders when they're at home, so while based on recent from I couldnt fault anyone taking under in that game tonight, I'm of the opnion they might just be joining the Clips Under train 1 stop too late.

I'll add I had no idea Brand was going to be absent when I posted the above - how easy did that play become.
 
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DEN 123 --plays 1st--> on the road vs MIN = Under
GDS 111 ----plays 2nd---> @home vs NYK = Over

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 7-5 to Under (DEN)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, on the road = 4-2 to Under (DEN)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 9-5 to Under (DEN)
 
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IND 136 --played 1st---> on the road vs TOR = Over
MIL 129 --played 2nd----> on the road vs NYK = Under
2OT

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, on the road vs Conf teams = 6-2 to Under (IND)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a win, on the road = 3-2 to Under (IND)

- Playing 1st off a 7-9 margin result = 6-6-1 (IND)

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MEM 115 --played 1st---> on the road vs POR = Under
GDS. 118 --played 2nd--> on the road vs LAC = Under
OT
 
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CHA 120 ----plays 1st---> on the road vs POR = Over
SAC 135 ----plays 2nd---> on the road vs LAK = Over


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 5-2-1 to Under (CHA)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 8-4 to Under (SAC)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a loss, on the road = 8-5-1 to Under (CHA)
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a win, on the road = 7-4 to Under (SAC)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 10-5 to Under (CHA)
- Playing 2nd off a 10+ margin result = 10-5 to Under (SAC)
 
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ka678 - that would be my lean, but I havent researched the other aspects of that contest. I don't advocate making a play based on this alone.
 
MIL. 121 --played 1st---> on the road vs ORL = Under
CHC 126 --played 2nd---> on the road vs MIA = Under
OT

This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, on the road vs Conf teams = 8-4 to Under (CHC)

- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a win, on the road = 7-4 to Under (CHC)

- Playing 1st off a 4-6 margin result = 13-7 to Under (CHC)

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MIN 117 ----played 1st---> @home vs LAK = Under (in regulation)
BOS 124 ---played 2nd---> @home vs HOU = Over
2OT


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, @home vs Conf teams = 6-2 to Under (MIN)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, @home vs non-Conf teams = 1-1 (BOS)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a loss, @home = 3-2 to Under (MIN)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a win, @home = 2-2 (BOS)

- Playing 1st off a 7-9 margin result = 7-6-1 to Over (MIN)
- Playing 2nd off a 7-9 margin result = 12-7 to Over (BOS)
 
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WAS 129 --played 1st--> on the road vs ATL = Under
TOR. 109 --played 2nd-----> @home vs MEM = Under


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 2nd off reg, @home vs non-Conf teams = 5-4 to Under (TOR)

- Teams playing 2nd off reg, off a loss, @home = 4-4 (TOR)

- Playing 2nd off a 10+ margin result = 10-6 to Under (TOR)
 
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TOR 120 --played 1st--> on the road vs MIL = Under
SEA 119 ----played 2nd----> @home vs DET = Over
OT


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, on the road vs Conf teams = 6-3 to Under (TOR)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, @home vs non-Conf teams = 2-1 to Over (SEA)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a win, on the road = 3-3 (TOR)
- Teams playing 2nd off OT, off a loss, @home = 6-4 to Under (SEA)

- Playing 1st off a 1-3 margin result = 11-2 to Under (TOR)
- Playing 2nd off a 1-3 margin result = 6-5 to Under (SEA)
 
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DAL 127 --played 1st--> @home vs BOS = Over
PHX 129 --played 2nd--> @home vs DET = Under
2OT


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off OT, @home vs non-Conf teams = 2-1 to Under (DAL)

- Teams playing 1st off OT, off a loss, @home = 4-2 to Under (DAL)

- Playing 1st off a 1-3 margin result = 12-2 to Under (DAL)
 
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DEN 131 --played 1st--> on the road vs NJY = Under
PHX 107 ---played 2nd---> @home vs MIN = Under


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs non-Conf teams = 5-3-1 to Under (DEN)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, on the road = 5-2 to Under (DEN)

- Playing 1st off a 10+ margin result = 10-6 to Under (DEN)


Denver is 4-1 to Under off a 230/100-100 game this season.


 
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To this point -

U/O 38-26 for teams whose results I record, that arent rematches

U/O 21-21 for the 5 teams whose results I don't record.

U/O _0-2_ for teams that play rematches.
 
Hey Crimes....just want to make sure the below comment from the first post is still accurate. Not sure why I always thought Denver was part of this group.


** I will not be entering any results from Phoenix, Milwaukee, Washington, Memphis or Golden State here this season.

38-26!! :wacka wacka: money;

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Lunch, Denver has pretty consistently delivered Unders after such games, so I've never had reason to eliminate them even thou their style is what it is.
 
LAK. 121 --played 1st--> on the road vs NOK = Over
MEM 119 -played 2nd--> on the road vs UTH = Over


This Season & Last
- Teams playing 1st off reg, on the road vs Conf teams = 8-5 to Under (LAK)

- Teams playing 1st off reg, off a win, on the road = 6-2 to Under (LAK)

- Playing 1st off a 1-3 margin result = 12-3 to Under (LAK)

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number2 - this matchup has played out 7 straight Overs, and 9 of their last 10 Over. NOK has had 6 of their last 7 home games go Over, the sole Under totaling 195 pts. LA however has played Under (in reg) their last 4 B2Bs. Making a call on how these 2 go in this spot is not easy.
 
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