LCS bow down to KJ stealing 3rd should have won TEX the series Discussion

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The last 8 AL playoff games have all been decided by 3+ run margins.

Only 1 of 14 AL playoff games has been decided by a 1 run margin.

No AL Home team has scored 1st in a game in which they've failed to shutout their opponent.

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KC has scored 1st in all of their road games (3) to date.
Toronto has been scored upon 1st in all of their home games (4) to date.
 
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963 KC-C Young
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961 NYM-J deGrom
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I'll be shocked if Young gives 'em anything but a hole to dig out of today.
 
Well, about the only positive spin I can put on this now is how, as a child, I was all excited by the prospect of the Jays going to the World Series after going up 3-1 on the Royals. Maybe history can repeat itself... or not.
 
Hate tomorrow's game in Toronto really, think it's a token over like the rest but how to bet against the strike caller
 
Hate tomorrow's game in Toronto really, think it's a token over like the rest but how to bet against the strike caller

don't think you can. Little worried about Volquez, but it's going to be very tough for TOR to win tomorrow i think
 
I'll track back and see what the results have been in the recent past, but the 2 teams to score 10+ runs in a SU win these playoffs have gone 0-2 SU in their next outing.

Can see KC feeling satisfied by going up 3-1 and knowing they have 2 home games left if they fail to clinch the series in G5. Not sold on Volquez @Toronto. I think it'll be a game where whoever gets off to the quick start, their opponent will likely mail it in (any listless performance by the loser will also naturally be a threat to the AL Over train).
 
Such a massive zone with Iassogna that can only help Volquez, he's almost gotten a free pass here...but so has KC in general, these are an all star team of under guys and what wouldn't help KC more that these assignments?
 
If KC jumps on em early again I think it will be over......demoralized them a bit yesterday with the way that beating kept on coming. Not to mention destroyed their bullpen. They'll need 6-7 from Estrada for sure.
 
ASSUMING KC closes it out....Id say Mets -130 or so. KC homefield but Mets knocked out the new darling Cubs.
 
I can't see it being that high. I think it's going to be a pretty tight spread for the Series.
 
Ted Barrett needs to be reprimanded. He was calling strikes almost at the ankles last night. It was ridiculous.
 
ASSUMING KC closes it out....Id say Mets -130 or so. KC homefield but Mets knocked out the new darling Cubs.

that's high, KC would be two straight years in the WS and have HFA. I think they're favored, but I'd be interested in plus-money on the NYM rotation because it's far better
 
I'll track back and see what the results have been in the recent past, but the 2 teams to score 10+ runs in a SU win these playoffs have gone 0-2 SU in their next outing.

Can see KC feeling satisfied by going up 3-1 and knowing they have 2 home games left if they fail to clinch the series in G5. Not sold on Volquez @Toronto. I think it'll be a game where whoever gets off to the quick start, their opponent will likely mail it in (any listless performance by the loser will also naturally be a threat to the AL Over train).

i don't agree with the satisfied part nor the listless performance, but could see TOR pressing big time if they fall behind and that gets them out of character and perform on the way toward what you'd call listless. Either take a ton of pitches to try to get into hitter's counts or swing for the fences even more than they normally do
 
i don't see how the mutts could be favored over kansas shitty...if they are, i'm taking the royal assholes for sure
 
NO chance the Mets are favored. On a neutral field the Royals are favored, let alone at home. Home field is very, very big...don't underestimate it. My guess would be KC -140.
 
Appreciate the thread as well. Sometimes go weeks without commenting or contributing, but thanks to GW, and others. Even you goofy day-of-the-week Germans.
 
I don't know what's gotten into Murphy. It's just downright unbelievable. I don't see how the royals or blue Jays can match the mets in the pitching department. Gonna be an awesome WS
 
I don't see how you can bet against the mets right now. Maybe the, too many days off, it'll hurt them comments people will say, but they're on a sick tear
 
Kinda torn here. If KC/TOR goes to 7 games then the Mets might get cold. KC has the experience edge too.

If its Mets vs TOR then TOR has the superior bats and Mets have the superior SP. Looks like a pretty evenly matched WS no matter what. Think I would make a wager on series going 6 or 7.
 
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Let me just say that cubs fans are some of the classiest fans I have seen. Good to see that a hundred plus years of disappointment hasnt made them vulgar and crude to the opposition.
 
Ummm, dont bet the "teams must meet in world series" bets... just take the field action at -115 if so
 
If the mets starters pitch like they have so far this postseason, i find it difficult to see them losing to either the jays or royals.

The mets ability to prepare and adapt to their opponent is surprisingly good. The lockerroom camraderie is great as well. WS experience is with the Royals so im hoping they BJs find a way to move on.
 
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Isn't betting -130 throwing money away when you can get -115?
 
Isn't betting -130 throwing money away when you can get -115?

No because if you think the blue jays beat the mets but the royals don't, you'd take the -130 (or vice versa)

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actually i dont know its confusing
 
No because if you think the blue jays beat the mets but the royals don't, you'd take the -130 (or vice versa)

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actually i dont know its confusing
Hunh? "Field" would mean either TOR or KC, so there wouldn't be much point in betting it individually. Or am I missing something?
 
I see the vague point, if you think Toronto would beat the Mets but don't think the Royals would, and you think -130 is value today on the Jays, you take it knowing the bet would be canceled if the Toronto don't make it...and you'd have no action on the Royals at that point.
 
Hunh? "Field" would mean either TOR or KC, so there wouldn't be much point in betting it individually. Or am I missing something?

Where is Lareux when you need him...

Here you go....


You would bet Toronto -130 vs the Mets PRIOR to the continuation of the Toronto/KC series....

If you think Toronto beats the NYM but you think the NYM would beat the Royals


This would give you the insurance if the Royals beat the Blue Jays in the ALCS, which would cancel your wager.

If you took Toronto to win the WS and the Royals win the ALCS, your ticket would be a loss.

Same goes for KC

It makes sense.
 
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