Is there a reason not to bet South Carolina?

So much for everyone staying healthy there etg. with the loss of eugene i think that puts the final nail in our coffin. Javon walker is out for the year too and curtis crouch is a headcase and wont be making the trip.
 
Looks like partly cloudy with a 30% chance of some thunderstorms that night starting at 7-9pm and then partly cloudy from 10pm on.
 
NC State and South Carolina kick off the college football season this week with a Thursday night, nationally televised match-up. Both teams are looking to rebound after disappointing conclusions to the 2007 season. NC State finished off their year with back to back losses to end up at 5-7 while the Gamecocks dropped five straight to end up at 6-6. With a stout defense in place and some big-time weapons on the offensive side of the ball, South Carolina will pose a major test for Tom O’Brien’s young Wolfpack squad. Pack Pride takes a look at the Gamecock program.

Record (2007) 6-6 (3-5 SEC)
South Carolina Final National Statistical Rankings (2007)
Rushing offense...101
Passing offense...37
Total offense...77
Rushing defense...110
Passing defense...4
Total defense...56
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]GAMEDAY[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Stadium[/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman', serif]: Williams-Brice Stadium (80,250)[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]TV: ESPN[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Play-by-Play: Chris Fowler[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Analyst: Craig James, Jesse Palmer[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Sidelines: Erin Andrews[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Radio at the stadium: WNKT (107.5 FM)[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Play-by-Play: Todd Ellis[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Analyst: Tommy Suggs[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Sidelines: Duce Staley[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Satellite Radio: XM 200[/FONT]
Series Information
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Series Record:[/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman', serif] NC State leads 26-25-4[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]In Columbia: South Carolina leads 18-9-1[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]In Raleigh: NC State leads 17-7-3[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Last Meeting: NC State 10, USC 0, 9/4/99 in Raleigh[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Last Meeting in Columbia: NC State 38, USC 21, 11/2/91[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Last Carolina Win: 23-7, 10/29/88 in Raleigh[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Last Carolina Win in Columbia: 48-0, 10/31/87[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Current Streak: NC State has won the last 4 meetings[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Steve Spurrier versus NC State[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]South Carolina Head Coach Steve Spurrier owns a 2-1-1 record against NC State, with the first three meetings while he was the head coach at Duke. He dropped a wild 47-45 decision in Durham in 1987, battled to a 43-43 tie in Raleigh in 1988, then posted a 35-26 win in Durham en route to an ACC Championship in 1989. While at Florida, he led the Gators to a 27-10 win over NC State in the 1992 Gator Bowl.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]South Carolina returns a veteran squad[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]The Gamecocks officially return 18 starters from the 2007 squad (six on offense, 10 on defense and one specialist). The returning offensive starters are OG Seaver Brown, OG Lemuel Jeanpierre, WR Dion LeCorn, WR Kenny McKinley, OT Jamon Meredith and OT Justin Sorensen. The returning defensive starters include DT Ladi Ajiboye, S Emanuel Cook, DT Marque Hall, LB Cliff Matthews, CB Captain Munnerlyn, DE Eric Norwood, LB Rodney Paulk, LB Marvin Sapp, FS Darian Stewart, and CB Carlos Thomas. Senior Ryan Succop is the returning punter and placekicker. The list does not include middle linebacker Jasper Brinkley, who started all 13 games in 2006 and the fi rst four games of the 2007 season before suffering a season-ending knee injury, or defensive tackle Nathan Pepper, who started 12 games in 2006 and[/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman', serif]each of the first three games in 2007 before suffering a season-ending knee injury.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]South Carolina just misses national poll[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]The South Carolina Gamecocks open the 2008 season just outside the nation’s top 25 in the two national polls. They are 26th in the Preseason Associated Press poll with 84 points, just one point behind Pittsburgh, and are 27th in the USA Today/Coaches Preseason Poll with 64 points. The Gamecocks are the seventh-highest ranked SEC school in both preseason polls behind Georgia (1<SUP>st</SUP> in AP, 1st in USA Today), Florida (5/5), LSU (7/6), Auburn (10/11), Tennessee (18/18) and Alabama (24/26).[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]South Carolina Coaching Changes[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]Steve Spurrier made a pair of changes to his coaching staff in the off-season, bringing in Ellis Johnson to be the new defensive coordinator and Ray Rychleski to coordinate the special teams. Johnson has spent the past four seasons as the defensive coordinator at Mississippi State under Sylvester Croom. He actually comes to Carolina following a very brief stint on Bobby Petrino’s[/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman', serif]staff at Arkansas. Rychleski takes over as special teams coordinator and tight ends coach, a role similar to what he held for the past seven years at the University of Maryland.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]The Gamecock Offense[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]WR [/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman', serif]11 Kenny McKinley (6-0, 187, Sr.***) Preseason first-team All-SEC pick by the coaches and media... needs 17 catches to break the school career record.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]15 Matt Clements (6-0, 188, Fr.-RS) Redshirt freshman who was hampered by a knee injury that kept him sidelined for much of the 2007 season.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]12 C.C. Whitlock (5-10, 169, Fr.) True freshman who went through spring drills after graduating from Chester (S.C.) High School.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]WR 18 Dion LeCorn (5-11, 220, So.*) Made six starts and caught 27 passes for 315 yards as a true freshman in 2007.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]4 Jason Barnes (6-4, 204, Fr.-RS) Lanky receiver who started the LSU game last season but gained a medical redshirt.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]WR 9 Moe Brown (6-0, 184, Jr.**) May be the fastest of the Gamecock receivers and the deep-ball threat... has made fi ve career starts.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]85 Joe Hills (6-4, 201, So.) Tall receiver who appeared in one game in 2007 but was denied a medical redshirt.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]82 Freddie Brown (6-3, 208, Jr.**) Possession-type receiver who has caught 31 passes over the last two seasons.... father coaches at Woodruff HS.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]LT 66 Hutch Eckerson (6-6, 292, So.*) Played in 10 games as a true freshman, then was redshirted during the 2007 campaign... from Lumberton, N.C.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]76 Jarriel King (6-7, 285, So.) Junior college transfer who has three years to play three at South Carolina... originally signed with USC in 2005.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]72 Quintin Richardson (6-4, 290, Fr.-RS) Local product from Spring Valley HS... redshirted as a true freshman... expected to push for playing time.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]LG 57 Lemuel Jeanpierre (6-3, 305, Jr.**) Former defensive lineman who was converted to offense in 2007... made 5 starts at right guard in 2007.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]62 Pierre Andrews (6-3, 288, So.) Redshirt sophomore who has worked his way into the two-deep for the fi rst time in his career.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]C 70 Garrett Anderson (6-4, 310, Jr.**) Has played in 22 of 25 games over the past 2 seasons, making eight starts, all at offensive guard.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]63 Seaver Brown (6-5, 302, So.*) Made six starts at left guard in 2007, the most of the three players who earned starting assignment at that spot.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]RG 74 Heath Batchelor (6-7, 309, So.*) Came to USC as a tackle but was moved to right guard... became a fi xture over the fi nal 4 games of the ‘07 season.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]60 Terrence Campbell (6-3, 277, So.) Former defensive lineman who has made the conversion to the O-line.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]RT 78 Justin Sorensen (6-7, 316, Sr.**) Big Canadian offensive lineman who has made 18 consecutive starts at right tackle... selected in the CFL Draft.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]68 Kyle Nunn (6-6, 306, Fr.-RS) Redshirt freshman who has worked his way into the two-deep... from Sumter, S.C.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]TE 84 Jared Cook (6-5, 240, Jr.**) Preseason third-team All-SEC pick by the coaches... excellent speed for a TE... figures to be a big play threat.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]88 Weslye Saunders (6-5, 274, So.*) Big target at tight end... caught 12 passes for 151 yards in 2007... Named Most Improved Tight End in the spring.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]QB 6 Tommy Beecher (6-1, 220, Jr.*) Slated to make his fi rst collegiate start against NC State... has completed 16-of-25 passes for 194 yards.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]7 Chris Smelley (6-2, 211, So.*) Owns a 4-2 record as a starter... has completed 57.1 percent of his passes for 1,288 yards and 9 touchdowns.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]FB 47 Patrick DiMarco (6-1, 238, So.*) Nephew of professional golfer Chris DiMarco... could see some time at tight end as well.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]46 Bryan Kingrey (6-1, 241, Sr.**) Former walk-on who has earned a scholarship... does not have any offensive statistics.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]TB 25 Mike Davis (5-9, 207, Sr.***) Senior who has rushed for 1,658 yards in his career... owns three 100-yard rushing games.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]10 Brian Maddox (5-10, 224, So.*) Sophomore who saw limited time in the backfi eld in ‘07... named the Most Improved Running Back in the spring.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]-OR- 20 Taylor Rank (6-0, 216, Jr.**) Posted a 101-yard rushing game against Florida Atlantic in 2006 in his lone [/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman', serif]career start[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]The Gamecock Defense[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]DE 41 Jordin Lindsey (6-3, 266, Sr.***) Fifth-year senior... named the Outstanding Defensive Player in the 2006 Liberty Bowl in his last game.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]96 Clifton Geathers (6-7, 284, So.*) Brother of Bengals’ defensive end Robert Geathers Jr and the nephew of former All-Pro Jumpy Geathers.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]DT 95 Nathan Pepper (6-1, 287, Jr.**) Missed most of the 2007 season after injuring his knee while scoring a TD against SC State.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]42 Travian Robertson (6-4, 281, So.*) Sophomore defensive end who could also slide into the middle of the line.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]79 Marque Hall (6-3, 292, Sr.***) Fifth-year senior... suffered a knee injury in 2006... played at less than 100% for the 2007 campaign.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]DT 91 Ladi Ajiboye (6-1, 298, So.*) Second team Freshman All-America by the Sporting News in 2007... considered the best defensive lineman.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]99 Jonathan Williams (6-2, 296, Sr.*) Former JC player who was named the Most Improved Defensive Tackle in the spring.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]79 Marque Hall (6-3, 292, Sr.***) Fifth-year senior... suffered a knee injury in 2006... played at less than 100% for the 2007 campaign.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]DE 83 Cliff Matthews (6-4, 259, So.*) Played linebacker most of ‘07 as a true freshman... started 9 games... was an All-Freshman SEC performer.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]92 Byron McKnight (6-5, 231, Fr.-RS) High school teammate of Travian Robertson at Scotland Country in North Carolina... redshirted last season.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]-OR- 98 Devin Taylor (6-6, 232, Fr.) True freshman from Beaufort, S.C. who could work his way into the rotation.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]MLB 52 Jasper Brinkley (6-2, 269, Sr.*) Preseason fi rst-team All-SEC by the media and second-team pick by the coaches... led the team in tackles in ‘06.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]45 Rodney Paulk (6-0, 227, Jr.**) Has made 22 starts over the past two seasons, third among the returning players on the team.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]44 Dustin Lindsey (6-4, 251, Sr.**) Fifth-year senior... twin brother of defensive end Jordin... has played in just one game since the 2005 season.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]WLB 40 Eric Norwood (6-1, 267, Jr.**) Preseason 2nd-team All-SEC pick by the coaches & media... on the Lombardi, Hendricks, Nagurski and Lott lists.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]53 Marvin Sapp (5-11, 229, Sr.***) Has appeared in 33 games over the past three seasons including a dozen starts.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]16 Shaq Wilson (5-11, 197, Fr.) Joined the squad in January and went through spring drills... named the Most Improved Linebacker in the spring.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]SPUR 24 Darian Stewart (5-11, 219, Jr.**) Started 10 games as a sophomore in 2007... has missed several practices after injuring his left foot in fall camp.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]8 Larry Freeman (6-1, 228, Sr.*) Converted wide receiver who moved to the defensive side of the ball in the fall... former junior college quarterback.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]CB 36 Stoney Woodson (5-11, 200, Sr.***) Fifth-year senior... can play both cornerback and safety... has 4 career interceptions.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]5 Carlos Thomas (5-11, 199, Sr.***) Veteran cornerback who has made 20 career starts... has 3 career interceptions.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]3 Akeem Auguste (5-9, 180, Fr.) True freshman who earned the Big Play Award for the defense during the spring drills.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]FS 17 Chris Culliver (6-0, 199, So.*) Played wide receiver in 2007... moved to safety in the spring... Rivals.com’s 19th-best prep prospect as a senior.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]13 Mark Barnes (6-2, 196, Fr.-RS) Gained a medical redshirt from last season despite playing three games at wide receiver... caught two passes.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]SS 21 Emanuel Cook (5-10, 203, Jr.**) Preseason second-team All-SEC pick by the coaches... leading tackler in 2007 with 92 stops... on the Thorpe list.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]29 Chris Hail (5-10, 193, Jr.**) Played wide receiver and was converted to cornerback as a freshman in 2006.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]CB 1 Captain Munnerlyn (5-9, 185, Jr.**) Preseason fi rst-team All-SEC pick by the coaches and media... also on the Thorpe and Nagurski list.[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman', serif]7 Addison Williams (5-8, 178, So.*) Earned the Most Improved Cornerback Award in the spring.[/FONT]

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This is a Q&A w/ NCST Rivals reporter. He does not know SC that well and you can tell that by some of his answers but he provides a lot of insight into the NCST side of things:





Thanks for stopping by...I was wondering how you think the Wolfpacks redshirt freshman qb will hold up in a hostile enviroment Thurs night? Do you think he may make some early mistakes or do you think it won't bother him at all? Thoughts?
I appreciate it and look forward to a great game,


It's hard to say how Russell Wilson will hold up in the hostile environment. Typically I would not think he would do well, and no doubt it is a tall order. I will say this for Wilson however, he is a unique young man. Anyone who has dealt with him comes away thoroughly impressed and he is a natural leader. He won the battle to start at quarterback despite his father suffering a stroke three weeks ago, so I think that says something about his mental approach.


How do you think that NC State's OL can standup to the pass-rush of the Gamecocks?

I think NC State's offensive line is by far the biggest question mark coming into the game. Right now two starters on the depth chart are former defensive linemen who will be playing their first game on the o-line in college. Another starter is a former walk-on. Depth is a big issue as well with Curtis Crouch, who many start would start at right guard, not making the trip.


Have not heard much about wolfpacks secondary or linebackers. How do they compare to SC's? Thanks for coming over.

don't know much about S.C.'s secondary and linebackers ... But NC State has I think a pretty good starting unit with the exception of question marks at safety. Depth is also an issue. Three true freshmen -- Sterling Lucas and Dwayne Maddox at linebacker and Dominique Ellis at corner -- are on the two deep, and the other backup corner is Koyal George, who was a walk-on receiver until moving to corner this spring. Safety has been hit hard with injuries. The projected two starters were Clem Johnson and Javon Walker. Johnson broke his jaw and Walker reinjured his knee, so both will miss the year. J.C. Neal has plenty of experience and should be fine at one safety. Justin Byers is a redshirt freshman who has impressed coaches since day one last year. He will likely start at the other safety. Depth again is a question mark.


Do you think that R. Wilson is the QB over Evans because his mobility may allow him to create some plays that otherwise would of resulted in an Evans sack or did he clearly out play Evans this summer to take over the #1 spot at QB?
I am sure Wilson's athleticism helped, but honestly I believe Wilson just beat Evans out. He has a stronger arm than Evans (although Wilson is 5-11, his hands are actually the size of someone who is 6-3, so he has a nice grip on the football). Since spring there have been a lot of people who thought Wilson would start unless Mike Glennon blew them away in the preseason.


How has Sterling Lucas been doing, I noticed he is #2 on the depth chart at MLB.

Lucas is doing very well. He came in great shape, and impressed enough that they moved him to the middle. He actually started camp outside, but was making a lot of plays so they moved him inside. He should play tomorrow.

What do you feel are the strength and weakness of each team heading into this game?

I don't know a ton about S. Carolina, but I do know they have a TON of experience it looks like coming back on defense, which should match up well with State's big question marks on offense. NC State has lost their best receiver and two of their three running backs for this game with injuries, and State's all-conference caliber tight end is playing his first game since ACL surgery. Then there are the question marks on the offensive line.

I do think NC State has a pretty good front seven on defense, and overall expect to be pretty solid on defense. So on paper this could be a low-scoring game.


Matt, how would you compare the talent level on this year's Wolfpack team w/ the talent from last year's team and the talent from Chuck Amato's last team?
I think the top talent may be down a bit from the past couple of years, but I also think NC State's top to bottom is probably a little better. The weaknesses in the last few years have been so glaring they overshadowed any strength NC State had. If the offensive line can hold up and be at least solid, then State won't have any glaring weaknesses. The last two classes at State are looking pretty good already, so there is good hope for the future. Most State fans believe next year will be the season O'Brien starts the winning.

Can you guarantee us that you guys will beat Clemtech? LOL!!! P.S. - How is FR DL Sam Jones doing?

Sam Jones actually had to delay his enrollment a semester as there was an issue with his transcript, but he should be good to go in January.


How do you think your talent stacks up against the rest of the ACC?
I think most of NC State's best talent is young and probably a year away from being ready for prime time. So this year State's talent is probably towards the bottom half of the ACC. Having said that, I do think if State was in the other division, they'd have a shot of a winning record. The Atlantic Division is far more stacked than the Coastal.


What concerns you most about the South Carolina team?


South Carolina's defense concerns me the most.

Will Williams-Brice be the most hostile environment you will face?


State's road games this year are South Carolina, Clemson, Maryland, Duke and UNC. Clemson's fans are more hostile than Maryland, and Duke and UNC have never been known to be rowdy environments. I've never been to S.C. before, but given this is a nationally televised, Thursday-night opener and Clemson is a noon game on a Saturday, it's possible Williams-Brice will be the most hostile State faces. It will either be S.C. or Clemson

What will be the key stat for NC State to win?


Turnovers ... When NC State holds onto the football they do well. I believe they were undefeated when they won the turnover margin last year.

eugene out for south carolina game
crouch out for south carolina game
javon walker out for season

can you confirm or deny that info ?


Jamelle Eugene, Javon Walker, Clem Johnson, Donald Bowens will miss the game with injuries. Curtis Crouch is not traveling in a coach's decision.


Who is a player(s) that people outside of the NC state program don't know but will be one to watch in the thursday night game? Thanks.

Defensive end Willie Young in his last seven games last year had 14 tackles for losses and six sacks and pressured the quarterback 20 times. Defensive tackle Alan-Michael Cash is another to watch. Both are very good.


How do you think NC State looks on the d and o-lines? On paper both look pretty impressive, but how do you think they will do against a salty USC defense and o-line?

I worry about State's offensive line against S.C.'s defensive line. State needs to hold their own there to have a chance. I feel good about NC State's defensive line, but I'm not familiar enough with S.C.'s offensive line to offer an opinion about how that match-up will go.


Matt, in your opinion, what would have to happen Thursday night for NCST to win?

For NC State to win ... no turnovers, force a few turnovers, make a few plays in special teams, win the field position battle. NC State needs to play a mistake free game that takes advantage of opportunities. If the two teams combine for less than 40 points, that's probably good for NC State.


Thanks for coming by. With running quarterbacks giving us so much trouble do you see many runs by the NC State QB's Thursday? What type of QB runs does NC State employ, option or draw or something else. Thanks.

Honestly ... Tom O'Brien and his OC Dana Bible have never had a running quarterback before. They really do use a pro-style offense (Bible is a former NFL OC), so I really don't know what to expect with regards to runs by Russell Wilson. If they stick with old offense, not many.

Matt thanks for being here. I have heard Wilson is a throwing QB who can run alittle, but have also heard he is a runner first who may be even returning kicks. Is this guy Michael Vick or Phillip Rivers?

Wilson can throw a football, there is no doubt about that. He has a pretty strong arm. I remember watching him in high school and he was warming up with fifty-yard ropes that had little arch in them. Having said that, he also scrambled a lot in that game, so I really don't know what you'll see come Thursday. A lot will be based on the offense. As a senior, Wilson threw for over 3,000 yards and ran for over 1,000 (against weak competition).

He actually reminded me of a Joe Hamilton or Jamie Barnette. Hamilton is a former QB at Georgia Tech and Barnette here at NC State.

I've heard that Ant Hill is a big time TE, but he's never played under O'Brien, correct? Did O'Brien utilize the TE much in the passing game last season, and what do you envision his impact will be in Williams Brice Thursday night?

O'Brien used Marcus Stone at tight end a lot last year in the passing game and has traditionally done so at Boston College as well. Anthony Hill was preseason All-ACC last year but tore his ACL in the August and missed the season. He's about 6-6, 265 and had over 40 catches in 2006. It's his first year under O'Brien, but I'm sure they will use him. He's an NFL talent if he's healthy.


1-Your OL looks good size wise. But with 2 converted DL winning the starting job there do you think experience will hurt? And can you comment as to their overall athleticism and conditioning?

1. I think the offensive line will be more athletic than they were last year and they are more in shape the way this staff likes them to be. Experience is my biggest concern.

2-Did the converted DL now at center ever play center or OL?


2. I don't believe Ted Larsen played center in high school. He had some nice offers out of high school (UNC, Georgia Tech, etc.) and several of them liked him at offensive line.

3-Y'all have 1 starting tackle at 330# and 1 backup tackle at 325#. That seems a little heavy, how mobile are they and could that be a factor against fast DE's?


3. McCuller at 330 can actually move decently well. I'm not sure the backup at 325 will play much.

4-We're hearing Wilson is a pass first qb as opposed to a scramble first then pass type. Can you guess a ratio of pass vs run...just an educated guess if you will.


4. It's completely a guess, but 3-1 pass to run ratio as far as Wilson is concerned.

5-Is the defensive front really a base 4-3 or do they shift from 4-3 to 3-4 and more nickel and dime? By looking at the depth chart and size, mobility, etc. it would appear to that the 3-4 would suit them more on most basic passing and running downs with a jumbo in short yardage situations (jmho, as all of these ?'s are based on).


a base 4-3, with the strongside linebacker basically being a hybrid safety/linebacker. He is basically a fifth DB that plays close to the line.

6-I could go on and on, but one more ? Can you give us a hint of the basic offensive attack we'll see, i.e. close to the same that y'all ran last year with or without new wrinkles, or have they gone to more of an option by way of a new spread, some form of wing option, etc. I read on a message board somewhere that y'all could line up in the wishbone...Lord I sure miss those days but I think the game has past them by! Again, just mho.


. I have a feeling you see will some new stuff in the offense. The traditional offense looks a lot like what you see from teams on Sunday. The love to be physical, run the ball and go vertical passing. However with Wilson they may spread it out some.


how do you feel about the matchup of the nc state offense against the new 4-2-5 base defense of the gamecocks.. likewise how do you see spurriers offense doing against the nc state defense..

It will be interesting, State's offense vs. the 4-2-5. Most teams have had their best success stacking the box with eight, nine guys and shutting down the run against State, forcing the quarterbacks to beat them. State has good receivers, but none of them have proven anything yet, and State's running backs are still pretty good. Andre Brown has NFL talent, we talked with one guy that think he could be among the top five senior running backs on some draft boards. I would be interested in seeing how close some of the DBs are to the line.

NC State mixes up zone and man coverage, but last year really struggled stopping the run. I expect that to improve a bit this year, but I would think Spurrier attacks there first and then try to pick apart the zone defense.

What scares you the most about this SC team?

All the returning experience on defense versus NC State's question marks on offense worries me most.

Matt, what is your prediction score of Thursday game?

I think I predicted South Carolina to win 23-16 on my board, with the Gamecocks falling behind early and then rallying in the second half for the win.

What specific weaknesses do you see on the SC defense/offense that will State have to exploit in order to be successful against South Carolina?
I really don't know a ton about SC defense/offense to answer what areas State can exploit ... They have good running backs and obviously an athletic QB, so they may try to run the ball since some teams had success doing that last year on S.C.

With your top WR and now top RB out for the game, who will be to go-to guys on offense? Do you feel the second string RB is talented enough to carry a run-based offense to a close game? Thanks, glad you're able to answer some questions...


A healthy Anthony Hill can be a big weapon at tight end moving the chains. Jarvis Williams and Owen Spencer would be the two wide outs worth watching. Williams is 6-4, 205 and very physical and Spencer is 6-3, 180 with legit sub-4.5 speed.

Andre Brown was the second-string running back, and he can easily carry a run-based offense in a close game. His one knock has been his tendency to try to bounce carries outside rather than use his 6-0, 225-pound body between the tackles. Brown is a threat for a big play at any moment though. He's had some foot issues that caused him to miss the last seven games of last year though.

Do you actually believe deep down inside your heart that the Wolfpack has a chance to upset USC on Thursday night? I read some stories about the Wilson kid and his father, etc. which is actually a great story, one I can relate to and sympathize with him for but what can you tell us about him as far as a Qb?

If State plays mistake free and forces S.C. into turnovers, I do believe they can win, but that's a must. State cannot afford to make any costly errors.

I will say about Russell Wilson, don't be deceived by his size. He has huge hands and is a natural thrower (pitched pretty well as a baseball player in high school and plays some third and second for State on the baseball team). He is athletic, probably runs in the 4.6-4.65 range in the 40. He has a strong arm. He is a natural leader and the players on the team love him. The question is really, is he ready? We'll find out Thursday.


 
Ok, this is likely my final post in this thread unless I find some new information. My idea behind these SC threads every week is to provide the forum with a chance to bet one of their games, whether it be on them, against them, over, or under, with the most information available to make a smart and informed decision. I don't expect everyone to bet the same side of me in every SC game and we will disagree a lot this year but the main goal is to provide as much information about the game that I can because I have a lot of access to it.


Now onto the game Thurs. There is not much to say that is not covered here. already

Motivation: Sure NCST will be motivated to face an SEC team in prime time on opening night of CFB on national television but the taste in their mouth this off season can not be equal to the taste SC has. 2007 ended very bitterly with a last second loss to their brutally hated rival and no bowl game along with a 5 game losing streak. SC went back to the basics this off season, they've had the best workouts in Spurriers 4 years, and the team looks like an actual SEC team. Spurrier has mentioned many times and the players have echoed these thoughts "Your only as good as your last game, our last game was a loss, so right now we are not very good" along with the slogan for the team this year being "Finish". They are taking this season 1 game at a time and all focus right now is on NCST. The players are dying to face someone other than their teammates since Spurrier has kept the hitting this summer to an absolute minimum to avoid injuries and consequently the team comes in to this game very healthy. Also, from listening to interviews and such, it might not sound like Spurrier is that confident but from reading what people close to the program are saying, The team and the staff are very confident heading into this game but since Spurrier shot himself in the foot last year by proclaiming that SC was ready to compete for the SEC-East only to later collapse, the approach they are taking is more of a "show me on the field" approach rather than talking about it in the media.


Atmosphere: You have to look no further than the Thursday night game vs. Kentucky in 2007 to get an idea about what this stadium is going to be like. Andre Woodson came in with a heismen hope and left with a heisman longshot. It is going to be packed and very loud as the new season kicks off.

NCST Offense vs. SC Defense:

With a RS-Frosh making his first start on the road, I believe O'Brien would like to rely on his running backs to carry as much of the load as possible. That will create one of the following two situations. 1)They have success running, eat up the clock, and control the pace of this game or 2) They have a hard time running the ball and are forced to throw. Ellis Johnson said the SC defense was set up to stop the pass last year, not the run. This year it is set up to stop the run and the change to the 4-2-5 defense where the 5th DB is more of a "hybrid" LB absolutly makes this defense a lot faster with Culliver at safety. I believe that SC can hold NCST rushing game under control, the key will be to force 3rd and longs and not letting them convert. You want to make Wilson pass as much as possible but at the same time you can not let him escape the pocket and pick up a first down with his feet which is why the "hybrid" will help. I believe SC can go man-up with their DB's and sell out to stop the run in obvious rushing downs. The NCST OL is not a strongspot and they will be outmanned by a stronger SC front 7-8.


SC Offense vs. NCST Defense

Contrary to popular belief, Spurrier does not want to air it out every play, his offense works best when it is balanced and I think you will see a close to even call of rushing plays to passing plays. I believe that is the SC OL is able to do their job that the offense will be able to have the needed success for the cover. I think on a scale of 1-10 if you asked me how worried I am about the OL, with 10 being the most serious concern, it is about a 3 right now and if that is the case, SC will be able to win the battle over the NCST defense because their DL is their strength. NCST has very little experience behind their starters and have suffered multiple injuries this off season which has put some new faces out there. I see a few match up problems for NCST with the TE's of SC and Kenny McKinnley. There will be 3 legit pass catchers on the field together for most of the night and if the OL gives Beecher time, he will find them. Beecher's job in this game is to play smart and to move the offense without trying to do too much himself. I believe the passing game will actually open up lane for the running game but in the end you will see a balanced playbook.

Other Things:

I believe because of their superior defense and special teams, the SC offense will have some short fields to work with. Turnovers from NCST will end up being very costly because SC should be good for points from the NCST 35 and anything inside that since Succop has an accurate leg if the drive stalls. NCST in year 2 of their program with the problems they have right now reminds me a lot of where SC was just a few years ago and when you are that young and inexperienced in multiple positions things are pretty rough and ugly for you. NCST should experience some growing pains on the OL w/ 2 converted DL making their first start and a walk-on filling the other position. When your OL struggles, your offense struggles and when your offense struggles your defense is on the field too long. Depth will eventually become an issue in this game if remains close in the first half. NCST will be facing a very experienced and vetern team that wants nothing more than to rid the sour taste of their mouths from 2007.


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August 27, 2008

USC - NCST Preview


Scott Hood
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USC-N.C. STATE PREVIEW

What: N.C. State (0-0) at USC (0-0)
Where: Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia, S.C.
When: Thu., Aug. 28, 8 p.m.
TV/Radio: ESPN (Chris Fowler, Craig James, Jesse Palmer, Erin Andrews); Gamecock Radio Network, 107.5 FM In Columbia (Todd Ellis, Tommy Suggs, Duce Staley); Replay on SportSouth.

It was once one of the most bitter rivalries in this part of the college football world. But now, after meeting every year from 1968-1991, the South Carolina-N.C. State feud has been relegated to secondary status as a result of USC's decision to join the SEC in 1992. The two teams have not met since 1999 when tropical storm conditions ruined Lou Holt's debut as Gamecock head coach.

The closeness and ferocity of this series is evident by N.C. State's slim lead (26-25-4) in the all-time series. Thursday's matchup will mark the 56th all-time meeting between the schools, tying the Wolfpack with Wake Forest for the third-most games played against USC behind Clemson and Georgia. N.C. State will carry a four-game winning streak over USC into the game. The last Gamecock win in the series occurred in 1988 in Raleigh. The last win for USC over the 'Pack in Columbia was a 48-0 thrashing in 1987. Gamecock fans, no doubt, hope for a similar result on Thursday night.

Here's how the two teams matchup on both sides of the ball:

USC OFFENSE v. N.C. STATE DEFENSE:

After watching the quarterback position struggle for the majority of the last three seasons, Steve Spurrier has turned to redshirt junior Tommy Beecher after three years of standing on the sidelines.

Beecher will make his first collegiate start against the Wolfpack after being named the starter a few days after the completion of spring drills. Spurrier has stuck with the Concord, N.C. native over the last four months despite the fact he's thrown just 25 career passes.

The good news is Beecher has completed 16 of those throws for a 64.0 completion percentage and 194 yards with two touchdowns. Spurrier will certainly accept those numbers over a course of an entire game.

Spurrier has promised that Beecher will receive a full and fair opportunity to succeed, even if he falters early, contrary to the perception that he enjoys yanking quarterbacks in and out of the lineup.

With an inexperienced quarterback, Spurrier hopes to receive significant contributions from the players around him. Running back Taylor Rank worked hard in the off-season, attended all the workouts and kept his nose clean, earning the second start of his career.

However, the number of carries he receives before senior Mike Davis enters the game is a major question. Spurrier said Tuesday that Davis will step on the field early despite the fact he missed about two weeks of practice time with a shoulder injury and then a stomach virus.

The story surrounding Davis took a bizarre twist on Wednesday when reports surfaced that the Columbia High graduate wasn't starting due to disciplinary action for breaking into a locked refrigerator at the team's Williams-Brice Stadium complex. But Spurrier insisted Wednesday that Davis hadn't earned the right to start after missing so much practice time.

Sophomore Brian Maddox, dropped to third on the depth chart, should also see action. He carried six times for 14 yards last season.

When Beecher drops back to pass against the Wolfpack defense, he'll do what USC quarterbacks did all of last season – look first for Kenny McKinley. However, the group of receivers behind him appear to be stronger and deeper this season with Dion LeCorn, Moe Brown, Freddie Brown, Jason Barnes, Joe Hills, Matt Clements and freshman C.C. Whitlock all ready to contribute.

Tight ends Jared Cook and Weslye Saunders will look to become better all-round tight ends (read: improve their blocking) after emerging as legitimate weapons in the passing game last season.

Even with the presence of Beecher in the starting lineup, the most scrutinized unit on the field Thursday night might be the USC offensive line, which is trying to rebound from a mediocre 2007 season.

The most watched position along the offensive front will be left tackle where Hutch Eckerson and Jarriel King are battling for the starting job. Spurrier said Tuesday that both behemoths should share snaps against the Wolfpack.

An impressive defensive line is built around juniors Willie Young, a fast defensive end, and Alan-Michael Cash, a 286-pound defensive tackle. Both player could give USC's offensive line plenty of problems.

The most intriguing name on N.C. State's defensive line depth chart is former Gamecock Shea McKeen, a 6-foot-5, 250-pound junior from New Jersey. He left USC in May of 2006 and transferred to Nassau Community College in New York.

While the defensive line should be a strength, the back seven is a major concern for N.C. State. All three starters at linebacker last season have departed, leaving an inexperienced group in their wake. As a result, the linebacker position is in rebuilding mode.

The six Wolfpack players listed on their two-deep at linebacker have combined for only five starts. Redshirt sophomore Nat Irving, the starting weakside linebacker, has four of them. He'll probably have to be serve as the foundation at the position for this year.

Middle linebacker Ray Michel (6-0, 224 pounds) started one game last season and has been a reliable backup in the past, while 6-foot-0, 210 pound SLB Robbie Leonard, a converted safety, has never played linebacker in a collegiate game. No wonder O'Brien recently described the depth at linebacker as "thin."

The N.C. State secondary will try to duplicate the efforts of last year's unheralded unit which finished No. 28 in the country in passing defense. Senior J.C. Neal is the new leader of the defensive backfield. He started six games and made 40 tackles. The starter at the other safety spot is redshirt freshman Justin Byers.

The top cover corner is senior Jeremy Gray, who is entering his second season as a starter. He started seven games and made 62 tackles last season.

KEY USC OFFENSIVE PLAYERS: QB Tommy Beecher, RB Taylor Rank, RB Mike Davis, WR Kenny McKinley, WR Dion LeCorn, TE Jared Cook, OL Hutch Eckerson, OL Jarriel King.

KEY N.C. STATE DEFENSIVE PLAYERS: DT Alan-Michael Cash, DE Willie Young, WLB Nate Irving, S J.C. Neal.

COACH'S COMMENT: "I really believe our team will be pumped up and eager to play our best Thursday night. I know our fans are. I've grown to really appreciate the Carolina football fans. They get tremendously excited this time of year and the reason is they have hope maybe something really good can happen this year. Hopefully we've got a team that can give them hope and then get the results. But time will only tell if we have that type of team" - USC head coach Steve Spurrier.

N.C. STATE OFFENSE v. USC DEFENSE:

N.C. State head coach Tom O'Brien has given the keys to the car to redshirt freshman quarterback Russell Wilson, a versatile athlete from Richmond, Va. that won a five-man competition for the job. He threw for 3,009 yards and rushed for an additional 1,132 yards rushed during his senior season in high school.

While impressive, those numbers obviously didn't come against a SEC defense. It's a sure thing that the speed Wilson will encounter Thursday night at Williams-Brice Stadium from the USC defense will be off the charts compared to whet he's had to deal with previously. How he adjusts to that speed is one of he game's more intriguing storylines.

Considering Wilson will be making his first career start in a hostile environment, it will be up to his teammates to rally around him. But how many weapons will he have at his disposal? Obviously, an effective running game is a quarterback's best friend, but two of N.C. State's top three running backs (Jamelle Eugene and Toney Baker) are sidelined with injuries.

That means the burden to get a running game established will fall mainly on senior Andre Brown, who had 1,772 career yards in his first three seasons. His best year came in 2005 when he led the Wolfpack with 667 yards. Brown started five games last season after Baker, the opening game starter, suffered a season-ending knee injury after just 26 snaps.

Brown was N.C. State's second-leading rusher last season behind Eugene with 447 yards on 95 carries, a respectable average of 4.7 yards per rush. There is very little experienced depth behind Brown, so O'Brien will likely stick with him for as long as he can. The backup is sophomore Curtis Johnson, who had 84 yards on six carries last season.

But running back isn't the only position to feel the wrath of the injury bug. Leading receiver Donald Bowens will sit out the 2008 season with a stress fracture in his back. The top two receivers on N.C. State's depth chart are sophomores Jarvis Williams and Owen Spencer. They combined for 13 receptions in 2007, with Spencer averaging 14.6 yards per catch, an indication he might be able to stretch the field.

O'Brien spent a large part of pre-season camp trying to find five players for the offensive line. The best might be right guard Meares Green, who has started 14 games in his career. The O-Line features three juniors and two seniors among the starting five.

USC returns 10 of the 11 starters on defense from the Clemson game. But when you consider Jasper Brinkley and Nathan Pepper are also back after missing most of the 2007 season, the Gamecocks have plenty of ammunition to stop opposing offenses.

With the N.C. State passing attack expected to struggle in the absence of Bowens, USC should focus on shutting down N.C. State's running game in the early portions of the contest with a solid defensive line led by sophomore DT Ladi Ajiboye, Pepper and defensive ends Cliff Matthews and Jordin Lindsey.

If they succeed in accomplishing that and force Wilson into throwing the ball with regularity, it will allow USC to blitz Wilson relentlessly and rattle him into making the type of mistakes that affect all young quarterbacks at this level.

The opener will provide USC fans the first look at the 4-2-5 package that defensive coordinator Ellis Johnson plans to employ frequently. Spur Darian Stewart, a free safety last season, appears to have battled back from a heel injury and should play. Speedster Chris Culliver, a one-time N.C. State commitment, is now the free safety.

KEY N.C. STATE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS: QB Russell Wilson, TB Andre Brown, WR Owen Spencer, OL Meares Green.

KEY USC DEFENSIVE PLAYERS: MLB Jasper Brinkley, NT Ladi Ajiboye, DE Cliff Matthews, OLB Eric Norwood, CB Captain Munnerlyn.

COACH'S COMMENT: "I think (the game against USC) is important for the program. It's important that we go and we play hard and we play smart. You only get so many opportunities to do this. That's one good thing about being able to play on Thursday night, especially this Thursday night because it's the first one. Everybody that doesn't want to watch politics can watch football" - N.C. State head coach Tom O'Brien.

SYNOPSIS: With most experts predicting a better season for the Gamecocks after the five-game losing streak concluded the 2007 season, stumbling against the inferior Wolfpack would be disastrous for the Gamecocks. This is game they should win. However, Steve Spurrier's first three years with the Gamecocks have started out with undistinguished wins over Central Florida, Mississippi State and Louisiana-Lafayette. The same thing could happen here. However, the DNA of this USC team appears to be a little different from its predecessors. Don't be surprised if they come out and play 60 minutes of solid football against a Wolfpack team still trying to find its footing under second-year coach Tom O'Brien. But the talent and depth in Raleigh still falls short of what you need to compete in a BCS conference. The voters in the pre-season ACC poll obviously saw plenty of deficiencies they voted the Wolfpack last in the conference's Atlantic Division. Could N.C. State win? Yes, if the adequate defensive line is able to seize control of the line of scrimmage and limit USC to about 14 points. But don't count on that happening.

PREDICTION: Spurrier wants to mix it up early, allowing Beecher to get comfortable in his role. The Gamecocks should probe the interior of the N.C. State with runs inside and then outside by starter Taylor Rank, Mike Davis and Brian Maddox. When USC throws the ball, Beecher will rely on depend upon receivers like Kenny McKinley and Dion LeCorn with medium range throws. If Spurrier wants to go deep, the target will likely be Moe Brown. N.C. State's offense has been severely impacted by the injuries to RB Jamelle Eugene and WR Donald Bowens, both of whom will miss the game. With a redshirt freshman at quarterback staring down one of the best defenses in the SEC, having any success through the air will be difficult. The Wolfpack are in grave danger of becoming one-dimensional, a no-no when you face a SEC opponent. That will be a recipe for disaster. Russell Wilson is talented young quarterback, but trying to score against an aggressive Gamecock defense while also trying to deal with 80,000 Gamecock faithful screaming at the top of the lungs will prove too much for someone making his first career start. N.C. State will struggle just to reach double digits, let alone win the game.

The Pick: USC 27, N.C. STATE 10.
 
man i feel like i've am more anxious for this day than i was for xmas when i was like 7

i will have butterflies tomorrow thinking of Jasper Brinkley crushing Andre Brown coming through the hole
 
Should be a good one there ETG. Hopefully everyone makes it out injury free and we see some good football tonight. 10 hours away!
 
Rank didnt deserve to start. Davis is just being disciplined.

Davis not starting for disciplinary reasons

By Travis Haney (Contact)
The Post and Courier
Wednesday, August 27, 2008




Mic Smith
The Post and Courier USC running back Mike Davis

COLUMBIA — The reason South Carolina running back Mike Davis is sitting to begin Thursday night's opener is disciplinary and not directly linked to his health or performance in recent practices, a pair of sources close to the team told The Post and Courier on Tuesday.
On Sunday, Davis broke into a locked refrigerator in the team's weight room that contained sports drinks, sources said. Davis bent the door's frame to get a drink, they said.
The players were summoned and the guilty party was asked to come forward by strength coach Mark Smith. Smith told everyone there was a surveillance tape of the area.
But no one confessed. The football staff learned later, through that video footage, that it was Davis.
The coaches then decided the best mode of action was to bench the senior from Columbia, at least to begin the game against North Carolina State. A source said Davis is also expected to pay for the damages to the refrigerator.
The information takes some of the stun out of coach Steve Spurrier's decision Monday to name career reserve Taylor Rank the Gamecocks' starter.
Spurrier said Monday, and again Tuesday, that Rank had performed well in practice and Davis had struggled to show he was ready after a shoulder injury and an illness sidelined him for a couple of weeks during camp.
"Mike hasn't hit any basically all preseason, and he's been hurt about the whole time," Spurrier said. "Taylor's really had a better preseason. He's done everything we've asked and so forth. But Mike's ready to play. Mike's ready to play."
When asked if the benching was about trying to send Davis a message, Spurrier said no.
"No, no, I'm not unhappy with Mike's effort," Spurrier said. "He'll be fine."
Running backs coach Robert Gillespie was requested Tuesday for an interview, but he declined. He referred general questions to Spurrier through USC's sports information department.
Davis rushed for 518 yards last season, and has 1,658 rushing yards in his three-year career.
Davis, along with a couple of teammates, will also have to sit one game later in the season because of spotty class attendance. It will likely be the Sept. 20 Wofford game or the Sept. 27 UAB game.
Rank has started one game before. He rushed for 101 yards on 15 carries in the 45-6 win over Florida Atlantic in 2006. Otherwise, he's rushed for 3 yards on seven carries.
Sophomore Brian Maddox was ahead of Rank initially when Davis went down. But Maddox has had trouble hanging onto the ball during practice, making Rank the more dependable, experienced option.
On Monday, Spurrier referred questions about Maddox to Gillespie.
Spurrier said five running backs — Rank, Davis, Maddox, freshman Eric Baker and senior Bobby Wallace — will dress for Thursday's game. That likely indicates that freshman Kenny Miles is a candidate for a redshirt.
 
GREAT thread, guys. Ive been reading the whole thing for the past 45 minutes. Im gonna jump on board with USC. I like Dion LeCorn and Brian Maddox a lot, cause Im a Texas fan and I remember hearing a lot about them a few years back when Texas was recruiting them.
 
honestly, glad u guys hit the under

that was the worst 20 point cover i will ever see in my life

im actually embarrassed at how fuken bad the offense looked

on top of it all, a qb controversy, fuk me
 
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