FS1, Lara/Canelo PPV + Undercard

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[TD]Thu 7/10[/TD]
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[TD]601 Argenis Mendez[/TD]
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[TD]10:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]602 Rances Barthelemy[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -325[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Cruiserweight 12 rounds - Echo Arena - Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]201 Julio Cesar Dos Santos[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +800[/TD]
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[TD]5:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]202 Tony Bellew[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1475[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Cruiserweight 12 rounds - Echo Arena - Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]225 Alejandro Emilio Valori[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +2200[/TD]
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[TD]4:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]226 Nathan Cleverly[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -5500[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Super Middleweight 12 rounds - Echo Arena - Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]251 Noe Gonzalez Alcoba[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1300[/TD]
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[TD]3:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]252 Rocky Fielding[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -2575[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Heavyweight 8 rounds - Echo Arena - Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]253 Matt Skelton[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +2800[/TD]
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[TD]3:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]254 Anthony Joshua[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -7000[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Super Middleweight 10 rounds - Echo Arena - Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]255 Vladine Biosse[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1000[/TD]
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[TD]2:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]256 Callum Smith[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1750[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Light Middleweight 12 rounds - MGM Grand - Las Vegas, Nevada - Showtime PPV</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]701 Erislandy Lara[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +155[/TD]
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[TD]11:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]702 Saul Alvarez[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -175[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Featherweight 10 rounds - MGM Grand - Las Vegas, Nevada - Showtime PPV</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]901 Jonathan Oquendo[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +500[/TD]
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[TD]9:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]902 Abner Mares[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -900[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Super Feathereweight 10 rounds - MGM Grand - Las Vegas, Nevada - Showtime PPV</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]925 Francisco Vargas[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -190[/TD]
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[TD]926 Juan Manuel Lopez[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +150[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Light Welterweight 12 rounds - MGM Grand - Las Vegas, Nevada - Showtime PPV</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]951 Johan Perez[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +140[/TD]
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[TD]9:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]952 Mauricio Herrera[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -180[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Bantamweight 12 rounds - MGM Grand - Las Vegas, Nevada - Showtime PPV</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]975 Pungluang Sor Singyu[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +700[/TD]
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[TD]5:00PM[/TD]
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[TD]976 Tomoki Kameda[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1500[/TD]
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[Jab v2.0]

I got Francisco Vargas within minutes after the line dropped. Opened at -120 both ways. I played it for 2u. I think the low line was an overreaction to the Ponce KO, and the JuanMa name. Within 20 minutes Vargas was up to -190.

Like Herrera, but would like to see it a little lower.

Lara/Canelo is interesting. If Lara can keep distance and play to his strengths, he's going to out box Canelo. I have no doubt of that. But if Canelo is able to close the distance, pin Lara, and fire combinations, he wins. Most people know how high I am on Lara. I picked him in a landslide over Trout and honestly believe he may be the biggest threat to Mayweather, out there. I believe if he survives early, he's going to win most of these rounds. Canelo fights in spurts. He's not going to out box Lara like that. At least, I'd be floored if he did. Which means I think he needs to up his aggression. Which brings into play, his questionable stamina. If he comes out more aggressive, and DOESN'T finish Lara off, how fresh will he be in the latter rounds?

Seems like a no brainer, right? Play Lara and collect the cash. Except for the important factor. The judges. We've seen Lara pretty decisively out box Paul Williams, only to be ripped off on the judges cards. On the flip side, we've seen Canelo arguably lose every round to Mayweather, and somehow still get rewarded with a draw on one of the cards. I question whether Lara can win the fight without a knockout. Surely if Lara wins in dominant fashion, they can't rob him blind. Not after the fuss that was made over the draw card in Canelo/Mayweather.

I've ruled out Lara by KO. I just don't see it. He's got some pop. Not the kind of pop that knocks you out. But enough to keep you honest. And even when he has his man hurt, he doesn't necessarily go for the kill. So what I'm saying is this....

I only think Lara can win by decision, but I'm not sure he can win by decision. Get it? Got it? Good.

 

[Elbutre88]

I dunno, I think Lara's straight left is enough to KO anyone. Especially in the later rounds. I was pretty high on canelo when this fight was announced, but watching both of their old fights, I just don't see how canelo is gonna catch and or outsmart Lara. I'm all in on Lara. He's quicker, smarter, and has better defense. Lara is the better boxer and I'm gettin plus money, sold.

 

[Elbutre88]

+175 for 1. don't know how anyone could justify canelo being -210

 

[Jab v2.0]

No way I'd play Canelo at -210. He was -165 earlier. I'm just gonna ride with Lara and hope for the best.

 

[twinkie13]

I dunno, I think Lara's straight left is enough to KO anyone. Especially in the later rounds. I was pretty high on canelo when this fight was announced, but watching both of their old fights, I just don't see how canelo is gonna catch and or outsmart Lara. I'm all in on Lara. He's quicker, smarter, and has better defense. Lara is the better boxer and I'm gettin plus money, sold.

Maybe....but what have you seen from Canelo that suggests anyone knocks him out?

Tough bet in this fight....how juiced is the over?

 

[twinkie13]

can someone post the o/u for these bouts?

 

[twinkie13]

I got Francisco Vargas within minutes after the line dropped. Opened at -120 both ways. I played it for 2u. I think the low line was an overreaction to the Ponce KO, and the JuanMa name. Within 20 minutes Vargas was up to -190.

Like Herrera, but would like to see it a little lower.

Lara/Canelo is interesting. If Lara can keep distance and play to his strengths, he's going to out box Canelo. I have no doubt of that. But if Canelo is able to close the distance, pin Lara, and fire combinations, he wins. Most people know how high I am on Lara. I picked him in a landslide over Trout and honestly believe he may be the biggest threat to Mayweather, out there. I believe if he survives early, he's going to win most of these rounds. Canelo fights in spurts. He's not going to out box Lara like that. At least, I'd be floored if he did. Which means I think he needs to up his aggression. Which brings into play, his questionable stamina. If he comes out more aggressive, and DOESN'T finish Lara off, how fresh will he be in the latter rounds?

Seems like a no brainer, right? Play Lara and collect the cash. Except for the important factor. The judges. We've seen Lara pretty decisively out box Paul Williams, only to be ripped off on the judges cards. On the flip side, we've seen Canelo arguably lose every round to Mayweather, and somehow still get rewarded with a draw on one of the cards. I question whether Lara can win the fight without a knockout. Surely if Lara wins in dominant fashion, they can't rob him blind. Not after the fuss that was made over the draw card in Canelo/Mayweather.

I've ruled out Lara by KO. I just don't see it. He's got some pop. Not the kind of pop that knocks you out. But enough to keep you honest. And even when he has his man hurt, he doesn't necessarily go for the kill. So what I'm saying is this....

I only think Lara can win by decision, but I'm not sure he can win by decision. Get it? Got it? Good.

If it was still 180 fight night, Id play it

 

[twinkie13]

So Abner's guys are gonna put him in with Oquendo fresh off a 1st rd KO, huh?

hmmmmm

 

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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Super Featherweight 12 rounds - Convention Center - Miami, Florida - Fox Sports 1</small>[/TD]
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[TD]601 Argenis Mendez[/TD]
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[TD]602 Rances Barthelemy[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Light Heavyweight 10 rounds - Convention Center - Miami, Florida - Fox Sports 1</small>[/TD]
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[TD]625 Umberto Savigne[/TD]
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[TD]626 Jeff Lacy[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Light Heavyweight 8 rounds - Convention Center - Miami, Florida</small>[/TD]
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[TD]627 Vincent Miranda[/TD]
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[TD]628 Yunieski Gonzalez[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Light Middleweight 8 rounds - Convention Center - Miami, Florida</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Thu 7/10[/TD]
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[TD]629 Noe Bolanos[/TD]
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[TD]630 Erickson Lubin[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u6½ -170 [/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Cruiserweight 10 rounds - Convention Center - Miami, Florida</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Thu 7/10[/TD]
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[TD]631 Edison Miranda[/TD]
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[TD]632 Yunier Dorticos[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1610 [/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u8½ -280 [/TD]
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[TD]Fri 7/11[/TD]
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[TD]601 Tureano Johnson[/TD]
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[TD]602 Mike Gavronski[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Lightweight 10 rounds - Little Creek Casino Resort - Shelton, Washington - ESPN2</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Fri 7/11[/TD]
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[TD]625 Art Hovhannisyan[/TD]
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[TD]626 Jonathan Maicelo[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +180 [/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u9½ -145 [/TD]
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[TD]Sat 7/12[/TD]
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[TD]201 Julio Cesar Dos Santos[/TD]
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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1000 [/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o9½ -165 [/TD]
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[TD]202 Tony Bellew[/TD]
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[Jab v2.0]

Mauricio Herrera -140. 2u

Francisco Vargas -120. 2u

Lara by 12 round decision +285. 1u.

Can't see any reason not to sprinkle a little on the draw, at +2000 on Lara/Canelo.

 

[Jab v2.0]

So Abner's guys are gonna put him in with Oquendo fresh off a 1st rd KO, huh?

hmmmmm

Yep. Caught my eye, too.

 

[Jab v2.0]

Should have waited. Lara decision is +410 now. Quite a jump.

 

[Elbutre88]

Maybe....but what have you seen from Canelo that suggests anyone knocks him out?

Tough bet in this fight....how juiced is the over?

The only boxer canelo fought was floyd, and he touched him all day. I'm not saying Lara is on Floyd's level, but I think he's the second best boxer canelo will see. We haven't really seen canelo's chin get tested. I think canelo has a tendency to plant his feet way too often and show his cards, I think Lara's superior boxing skills and power can expose that hole in canelo's game. My bigger fear is Lara getting up in the first 3 or 4 rounds and this Lara getting cocky and this turning into angulo pt 2.

With the all that being said, I ain't betting the under, ha.

 

[Elbutre88]

Should have waited. Lara decision is +410 now. Quite a jump.

+385 now.

 

[Elbutre88]

Sat 7/12 701 Erislandy Lara +180 o9½ -320
11:00PM 702 Saul Alvarez -220 u9½ +260

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

My biggest fear playing Lara (who I feel is easily the better overall fighter) is him having to win a decision against three judges. Canelo was out worked 2-1 and out landed by Trout and won a landslide decision. Canelo literally lost every round to Floyd and, as jab has stated, drew on one card. If Canelo doesn't turn this into a all out slug fest like Angulo did, Lara's style can make for rounds the judges find hard to give him. Even when he's laying a beating on a guy as evidenced by the Paul Williams decision.

This fight is at a bullshit, renegotiated, catch-weight and wont even have Lara's ridiculous fake WBA belt on the line. It already has fishy decision written all over it. With that said I highly doubt I will avoid getting my gambooool on if we see Lara decision creep above +400 again. I would say that keeping wagers at a prudent 1 unit is the right move by you guys even though Lara +175 or better seems like outrageous value.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Turkas and I are also cautiously optimistic about having a skeletal version of the website up this Saturday for you guys to poop on.

View attachment 36285

 

[Elbutre88]

Hell yes

 

[Elbutre88]

wait. what did I miss? website?

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

wait. what did I miss? website?

At times we'll get drunk enough to start spilling the beans about the website we're working on. Turkas has been grinding the tweeter hard already though. I'm a 33 year old curmudgeon that refuses to do the twitter thing but you can talk shit to him all you want here:

https://twitter.com/3bmboxing

Elb, you'll enjoy it. I consider it basically taking our drunken haze boxing threads on big fight nights and turning it into a more long form narrative content website. It's a place where Turk can put up all his writings about Hunter S. Thompson like fight trips and where I can somewhat coherently babble about what I love and hate about the fight game. We have a very good buddy who is an amazing web designer working on this in his spare time with us.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Whose twitter is that? Dude is probably Yag

:badass:

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Whose twitter is that? Dude is probably Yag

:badass:

Turkas' bro, did you ever doubt?

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Naw I knew. Was just trolling. My pops is out in Vegas for a convention. Going to tell him to scalp some tickets

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Naw I knew. Was just trolling. My pops is out in Vegas for a convention. Going to tell him to scalp some tickets

Turk already lining up for tix for Mayweather / Maidana 2. You should get to Vegas with em GBL.

You guys fucking wait until Turk starts grinding out press passes to major fights once we get the website up. :dancing:

 

[Elbutre88]

awesome, following now. looking forward to it

 

[Jab v2.0]

I had an idea of doing the exact same thing. I've ran a couple of sites. Well, 1 forum, and 2 blogs. I just hit spells where I don't have the time to update them consistently and it all goes to shit.

 

[twinkie13]

JFC Jeff Lacy

where can I send you a check bro.....sad

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

JFC Jeff Lacy

where can I send you a check bro.....sad

That shit was sad as hell last night. Anyone involved with allowing him to get that fight should be ashamed.

 

[Elbutre88]

seriously hard to watch. this is what happens when you don't have one governing body.

 

[Jab v2.0]

I was pissed off at the guy dancing around the ring after he had beaten Lacy. I know he's glad he won and everything, but come on, Lacy has been shot to shit for years. You really didn't take any huge step forward or anything. Dude is still just as unproven as he was before the fight.

 

[Jab v2.0]

Mauricio Herrera -140. 2u

Francisco Vargas -120. 2u

Lara by 12 round decision +285. 1u.

Can't see any reason not to sprinkle a little on the draw, at +2000 on Lara/Canelo.

Bellew/Santos o9.5 -110. 1u

Vargas/Lopez "Won't Go Distance" -140. 1u

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Bellew/Santos o9.5 -110. 1u

Vargas/Lopez "Won't Go Distance" -140. 1u

Really like that Juan Ma wont go distance prop. -140 to win 1u for me as well Jab :cheers:

 

[Jab v2.0]

SOB :cheers:

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Where do I go to get Mayweather tickets? When are they on sale?

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

I think I am going no matter what, my birthday is the Wednesday before

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

I think I am going no matter what, my birthday is the Wednesday before

GLB and Turk meet up! Golden Boy will announce when tix go on sale. Sometime in August I'd imagine.

 

[Turkas]

Fuck, it has been too long! I get caught up on that twitter too much lol.

Tomorrow is gonna be a great fight I think, Canelo should win, but I love a Lara decision at anything above +300.

 

[Turkas]

Whose twitter is that? Dude is probably Yag

:badass:

Fuck it man, get drunk!

 

[Turkas]

Where do I go to get Mayweather tickets? When are they on sale?

No idea when tickets will be on sale, probably soon though, I imagine the will be $300, $550, $750, and $1500 like the last fight. I am not officially going, but my wife gave me the go ahead so it is looking very probable.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

I have to go

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Favorite fight of all time

[video=youtube;8AJA9qu1Fr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJA9qu1Fr0[/video]

 

[Elbutre88]

If y'all are members to the MGM players thing or whatever, they might release the tickets early. I know they've done it with pac and cotto fights in the past, that's the only way I've gotten tickets to big fights in the past. They usually get scooped up real quick, the good seats at least.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

GLB, if heavyweight slug fests are your deal sit back and enjoy one of the best ever:

[video=youtube;l8AVcEyyMco]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AVcEyyMco[/video]

 

[Elbutre88]

Replaying the Lara trout fight now on showtime extreme, 9th round. Canelo vs trout right after.

 

[Elbutre88]

Really like that Juan Ma wont go distance prop. -140 to win 1u for me as well Jab :cheers:

Ditto there.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

One could argue Foreman v Lyle round 4 being the greatest round in heavyweight history.

 

[Elbutre88]

-130 though

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

-130 though

:cheers: Still waiting on the Lara by decision prop myself. 5 dimes has +305 right now.

 

[Jab v2.0]

-130 though

:shake: