wiseplayer
Pretty much a regular
Only thing I'm seeing that I don't agree with in the top 10 is a Pac 12. UCF is more deserving.
For fun discussion purposes -- Your CFP Top 10 for this Tuesday
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gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
I do agree that a lot of schools have far less margin of error based on the name on their jerseys than the blue bloods. But even Iowa St is in a far better position than a group of 5 team. If Iowa St was undefeated, they'd be in the top 6 right now, no doubt. Since you brought up the QB change, why do so many people assume that if the game was played again that Michigan would beat Notre Dame? I understand that Wimbush was instrumental in that win, but isn't Book better? And there's another ND player who missed that game that is also an upgrade. Michigan may very well win a rematch, but I'm not convinced it's a given.
I like UCF too but i think this comes down to schedule. the only "name team" they have beaten is pittsburgh, though they did run them out. they scheduled UNC when the tar heels were decent but they are bad now.
WAZZU has beaten then number 12 Oregon by DD, and then number Stanford in Palo Alto. the aggregate of those two victories obviously trumps out UCF undefeated at this point. at least the committee seems to think so
wiseplayer
Pretty much a regular
IMO, Any win in the Pac 12 should be the equivalent to beating an AAC team.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
In fairness I can say that about every conference and for all I know the AAC is the best conference in CFB
wiseplayer
Pretty much a regular
Pac 12 is where I'm from. It's bad football. Actually it's been this way for the last few years.
KJ
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Yeah I'm here too and don't even go to games much, it's kinda bad product but for the most part, so are every other conference. I understand and watch the SEC but I know that 1: Alabama might push the right buttons to compete with '95 Nebraska to be the best team ever, and 2: Georgia is damn good. Outside of that, I don't know what would separate them from any other conference.
To me matchups matter, style of play matters, for some reason each conference seems to have it's own identity with regards to style. And I can't discount that any of the Pac 12 top teams could succeed in any other conference. What sucks with CFB is we use a one game barometer to compare things, I have no clue how any of those tough nosed SEC or ACC teams would fare in the Big XII or Pac 12 over a full season. Absolutely no clue and I guess it gets us talking.
How would Ohio State or Wisky fare in the Big XII? It's interesting, just different games.
I highly doubt the Pac 12 is all that bad but it's not a great watch for sure. Again, for all I know the AAC is the best conference in the land and it's potential champion will possibly go two years undefeated and not get to show anyone if they're truly great or not. We gamble, we expect outcomes...but we're wrong a lot.
To me matchups matter, style of play matters, for some reason each conference seems to have it's own identity with regards to style. And I can't discount that any of the Pac 12 top teams could succeed in any other conference. What sucks with CFB is we use a one game barometer to compare things, I have no clue how any of those tough nosed SEC or ACC teams would fare in the Big XII or Pac 12 over a full season. Absolutely no clue and I guess it gets us talking.
How would Ohio State or Wisky fare in the Big XII? It's interesting, just different games.
I highly doubt the Pac 12 is all that bad but it's not a great watch for sure. Again, for all I know the AAC is the best conference in the land and it's potential champion will possibly go two years undefeated and not get to show anyone if they're truly great or not. We gamble, we expect outcomes...but we're wrong a lot.
Anyone see any reason why we won't have the same Top 4?
Bama
Clemson
ND
Michigan
and then Georgia stays number 5.
OU should probably drop. Wazzu did not look great vs CAL two weeks ago. WVA should probably jump OU if we are really being fair.
(as an OU fan i am sickened by the D or lack thereof. somewhere Mike Stoops is getting a little chuckle)
Bama
Clemson
ND
Michigan
and then Georgia stays number 5.
OU should probably drop. Wazzu did not look great vs CAL two weeks ago. WVA should probably jump OU if we are really being fair.
(as an OU fan i am sickened by the D or lack thereof. somewhere Mike Stoops is getting a little chuckle)
Michigan
Notre Dame
Bama
Wyoming
Notre Dame
Bama
Wyoming
Obviously this week's top 4 is unchanged. The posturing after those spots (moreso 10-25) is what interests me. Obviously how OSU gets slotted will be interesting as well.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
But I'm beginning to thing the AAC is the toughest conference in all of football. I think Fresno would destroy UCF but what if UCF put a 50 spot on em?
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
I don't know -- I get criticized here if I express an opinion that picks the four teams the "stat model" prefers.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
It's true, but in what really matters (teams ultimately selected to participate in the playoff) the most astonishingly overrated team ever was Michigan State in 2015. And #2 seed Bama got to play 'em, while #1 seed Clemson had to pay an Oklahoma team that was 15 points better.
That was such a flawed final 4 team.
They wear their t-shirts though.
One of the easiest big bets I have ever made.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Then again, Florida State didn't belong in 2014, either. It would be hard to leave out the undefeated defending champ, but FSU had awful numbers that year and got wiped out 59-20 by Oregon.
First half shave champs.
cubsker
Used to be "Fun Cub"
the whole injury thing is silly to me. it should be what your performance over the entire season is. to illustrate how silly this is, think about if kyler murray were injured and OU was 9-3 right now. Now he comes back, they wipe the floor with Texas. Would they get in at 10-3 since they're really a 12-1 team with Murray? Of course, the answer is no. The injury thing is used to hurt teams that the committee wants to hurt - that's it. Say Tua gets hurt for the season in the 4th qtr of a win over Jorja. Does anyone think Bama would all of the sudden not be #1? Of course not.
1. Bama
2. Clem
3. ND
4. UCF
UCF has had a better season than OU and Ohio.
1. Bama
2. Clem
3. ND
4. UCF
UCF has had a better season than OU and Ohio.
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
I’d argue the schedule against ND. There are more quality teams IMO on UCFs schedule than ND. Sure the names for ND are better, but I would put Templ, Houston and Memphis as being better wins than the top 3ND victories. Mich is not as good of a victory as it was all season, and was a season opener at home. What other teams are better? Syracuse? Nah....
That game was on Dalvin. Never fumbled and fumbles 2-3 times that game. That game was closer than the score looked
Are you trolling? Temple lost to Nova but Mich isn‘t a good win because they lost to Ohio State? Houston who lost to SMU by two scores? Memphis who lost to Mizzou by 30 points?
Putting Georgia at 4 is such a slap in the face to last year‘s Ohio State. B-b-b-ut the big loss!
Georgia has 1 loss but ohio state had 2 last year. Dominated at home by Oklahoma much more than the final score indicated and run off the field at iowa.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
For some reason that I can't recall, I didn't watch the game. I know why I didn't watch Auburn/Oregon in January 2011 (wife scheduled some childbirth class three months before the birth of our first child), but that one? Why would I not watch it?
Idea.
Why not use this weekend to play
1 vs 6 in Atlanta
2 vs 5 in Jerry Dome
3 vs 4 in Indy
Bama and Jorga are already playing.
Why not play Ohio st vs Oklahoma Sat
And Clemson vs Notre Dame
Would you rather watch the games above Sat or the lineup we have now.
( I do wanna watch OU Texas though)
Just a thought
Why not use this weekend to play
1 vs 6 in Atlanta
2 vs 5 in Jerry Dome
3 vs 4 in Indy
Bama and Jorga are already playing.
Why not play Ohio st vs Oklahoma Sat
And Clemson vs Notre Dame
Would you rather watch the games above Sat or the lineup we have now.
( I do wanna watch OU Texas though)
Just a thought
Or just expand that to 8. Easy peasy.
Why 8? Why not 6? Why not 7 with a bye (extra incentive to be top team)?
So who gets the byes? I'd have a problem with a team like Clemson not having played a significant game other than TAMU months ago getting a bye. Let them get in and play a big dawg and see where they are at.
I use Clemson as an example a lot. It isn't meant to slight them. They have spent a lot of time and 'money' building that program. They are a damn good team but their position in this playoff as a 1 or 2 seed was already put in our heads last January. All they had to do is not mess up, which they haven't.
Isn’t there another league that has an 8 team playoff already?
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