Chiefs -1.5. Over/under 48.5
Already up to Chiefs -2 and over/under 49.5
Without any stats or trends, ya'll know the script. It hasn't changed in the last few years.
Talent wise, Eagles have a slight edge on both sides of the ball. Big edge to KC in QB play. Eagles better in the trenches however And, as I’ve made clear, I think our coach is a fucking idiot and will probably cost us the game. If I can get Philly +3 I’m all over it. Doubt it gets there though
Would anyone really go against KC in basically a ML game? KC at this price is a gift. Dont over think it.
Would anyone really go against KC in basically a ML game? KC at this price is a gift. Dont over think it.
If it loses you can live with it. Can’t take Philly here and lose and then live with this choice.I don't and won't.
Of 3 pillars we've seen in recent years, Alabama 1H, Smart and Mahomes, the first two have run their course. The last shows no sign of doing so. Until it looks to be running out of gas KC / Mahomes is on auto play.
If it loses you can live with it. Can’t take Philly here and lose and then live with this choice.
Reid is in another stratosphere as HC. Imagine if Kelce actually shows up to play?
I don't and won't.
Of 3 pillars we've seen in recent years, Alabama 1H, Smart and Mahomes, the first two have run their course. The last shows no sign of doing so. Until it looks to be running out of gas KC / Mahomes is on auto play.
If you think KC wins then it's highly likely Mahomes will win the MVP. If that happens you have better odds at +120I may find a way to put a couple of bills on the chiefs, just because I would at least win a little $ when the Chiefs win. Little reason to think they won't win.
I also think if this Chiefs team wins, Mahomes is just too good because the talent level is of a .500 team. It just doesn't seem to matter.
Eagles probably the best match up for the chiefs in the playoffs so far.
5th time we have same coaches rematching in the SB
Winning coach the first time is 4-0 the 2nd time..
This is very tough to pick a side. Several SB & season trends favor both sides so I may stick with the total. Leaning towards the under 49.5
Also, KC starters have played 2 games since Christmas. Thats a check mark on the healthy list. Philly oline was starting to have injury issues. This is also Genius vs Average in the HC department. You’d have to be either a hater of KC or an Eagles fan to have a penny on Philadelphia. Just makes no sense.Man it so so easy tho. Surely not saying kc can’t lose but there just no possible way I believe for a second this game a coin flip like line suggest. How can they possibly tell us the team that has went 17-3 under mahomes in playoffs and won last 2 SB’s and 3 of last 5, probably woulda been 4 of last 5 if wasn’t for their oline getting killed by injury and the goat playing qb for Tampa!!
I know Philly has what maybe a slightly stronger roster on paper but gotta remember kc wr and rb group has only been together and healthy for a handful of games and to me they seemingly look better and better each week, throw in another 2 weeks of practice with the best coach of all time when it comes to getting extra time to prepare, the fact they have more speed on outside since Tyreke left, Kelce can’t be double teamed these days and he saved what he has left in tank til end of the year, he has a monster game in him if he gets single covered and I can’t see how ya can double him and lock up the speed they have with Hollywood and worthy who has came on and I wouldn’t consider a rookie anymore. Maybe I’m wrong but I like a big play here and I’ll sleep just fine knowing I got down money at a crazy cheap price on a dynasty vs a team who pretty much got handed a Free trip by bunch of fumbling bumbling young teams In nfc.
Also, KC starters have played 2 games since Christmas. Thats a check mark on the healthy list. Philly oline was starting to have injury issues. This is also Genius vs Average in the HC department. You’d have to be either a hater of KC or an Eagles fan to have a penny on Philadelphia. Just makes no sense.
I couldn’t believe before the nfc championship nobody seemed to care Philly center wasn’t playing, yes they won but take away the total incompetent tackling on 1st play and all the unforced fumbles at worst times and we have Barkley going 14 for 58 rushing and a game Daniels prob wins in end, imo the best pulling center in league made a big impact. I have no clue his status now but bad backs are tricky!!! If he don’t play spags will have a field day blitzing the a gap.
I think he’s going to be fine for the SB. He was active and played. Now he has 2 weeks off. You’d figure he’ll be close to 100% if he could take the field just a short while ago. He said he’s good to go for the SB.
Agree that the ball bounces helped Philly win that game. But Washington had nothing for Fangio and that defense 2h. Daniels looked like a rookie for the first time in a long time.
Not sure if there is a DC in the history of the NFL who has reached this status and yet could go down as 1 of the worst HC’s in Rams history. Spags was a coach who once punted on 4th and 20 with 1 minute left in the game and no timeouts instead of going for it. He thought it would be better for the opposition to kneel on it at their 30 than the Rams 30. That’s how incompetent he was.I mean I felt like Daniels was pretty good considering until he forced the issue down in 4th and it snowballed. I was watching on crappy little hospital tv without lot of volume so I didn’t realize he center played some, he didht start right? That def a good sign for Philly if he was to be out or “god forbid” re-tweak his back I’d hit kc harder. Thing it be a real problem vs spags d if he couldn’t go
Not sure if there is a DC in the history of the NFL who has reached this status and yet could go down as 1 of the worst HC’s in Rams history. Spags was a coach who once punted on 4th and 20 with 1 minute left in the game and no timeouts instead of going for it. He thought it would be better for the opposition to kneel on it at their 30 than the Rams 30. That’s how incompetent he was.
I know I’m one of the few, but I will be on the Eagles in this Superbowl for a number of reasons.
These teams played in this game a couple years ago. KC with a better roster back then compared to this year, and only best an Eagles team with a worse roster than this year’s team by 3. This year’s team has a FAR better overall defense and vastly improved secondary. The offense is also better with the best RB in the game.
Philly is better in the trenches on both sides of the ball and that is huge. Jalen Hurts has been taking care of the ball much better lately, and will have 2 weeks to get healthy. Philly is also really out for revenge after some questionable calls contributed to the loss last time out. Philly now knows what to expect in this game and against this team that they know they can beat. Almost everyone is going to expect KC to get their 3 peat. The story is going to be pounded into their heads, especially after KC disposed of Buffalo. Don’t underestimate how much this will energize the Eagles. KC still has issues on the O line that the Eagles can exploit in a way the Bills couldn’t.
The only things giving me pause are 1. The coaching mismatch. As I’ve stated before, Sirianni is a fucking idiot. The team is winning DESPITE him, not because of him. However, we now have coordinators who can make up for some of his idiocy.
2. The Eagles injuries at Center are concerning with both our starting center and backup both with injuries. Hopefully the 2 week layoff can help them heal up.
3. The continued shady ass referees. With game so visible, hopefully they won’t be a major factor, but you never know.
At the end of the day, I’ll be on the Eagles. Not just because I’m a fan, but because I believe they are the better team. But I am going to wait until closer to game time to try and get a better line.
Score prediction? Let’s go with 26-22 Eagles.
Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones etc and line 1.5?
I am all over Philly here.
Thank you for the kind words brotha. You have good points and going against KC in the playoffs is a sure recipe for disaster. I just feel this Eagles team actually matches up quite well with KC.Respect your opinion more than a lot of fans but I feel like few the statements are more than a little shaded thru fan eyes. I have to go back and look at kc roster for the last meeting cause this kc team (when actually healthy which they are more so now than all season minus rice), this kc version is way better than last years team and think that’s undeniable, again i have to look back to the Philly SB and see their roster for that season as my memory not that great, lol. I’ll just sign off w you Philly roster better even tho not having Kelce the center who replaced him been fantastic but as you referenced both are banged up so im not sure the oline is better? Fair to say Barkley more than balances that out tho, still think eagles have to have the starting center and at close to 100% or i really don’t think they have much chance, commanders d was awful and they still had some success causing problems in A gap, spags attacking that spot against a injured starter or backup I think totally eliminates the los adbatege you feel they have so think waiting to make sure the center is in fact healthy important. He might feel fine now but a back injury can get tweaked getting out of bed let alone in practice!
According to our resident Niners fan we writing revisionist history and now claiming those chokers blowing 10 point 4th qrtr leads were 2 more games refs apparently cheated fir kc, so if you part this redic narrative kc getting special treatment than you better not expect it to change for the SB. However if we honest bout these playoffs Philly has gotten at the very least just as much help from refs to get here as kc did. Surely you agree the packers opening kick return was absolutely shown to be a clear packers recovery on replay? The 3 calls I could point out exactly what times each happened unless you know the ones I speak of in commanders game, I think each one came after one those most untimely fumbles possible, I believe commanders d had actually forced would be 4th downs on each those subsequent drives only for a questionable at best flag extended the drive and basically handed eagles tds. I’d just like a little bit of fairness from everyone convinced that mahomes 17-3 playoff record was thanks to refs!! Then again you seem to be playing the same card as Niners fans, bills fans, and all the kc haters and blaming refs for the 1st loss. In that case why do we think Kc won’t get the calls again?
I don’t think you in minority at all, the more Kc hate/fatigue and more this silly narrative nfl cheats for them gets pushed I think the more support Philly gaining, at worst I think the betting gonna end up pretty evenly split here. Really wish ppl would just say they betting eagles with the argument on paper I agree their roster is very stacked. I think ppl are selling kc roster short since they only played together the last month or so but that one the reasons I like Kc, of course I hope all the nonsense true bout Kc getting more bogus . calls than every other team, I personally think it a lazy and worse yet a ignorant narrative formed from jealously of other fan basis but hey, I hope I’m the naive one and the fix is once again in for the best player and coach on the planet!! I’ll never understand all the ppl kicking and screaming after every game kc games are fixed yet are gonna bet Philly. If you really believed this non sense narrative and deep down didn’t know Philly has gotten just as many shady calls to get here i believe you smart enough you would bet the team the nfl has apparently been helping win all these games!! Why wouldn’t you? Do we seriously believe Philly so good they can win despite the fix?
Also agree it be close, I lean to a slightly higher score cause I don’t think Philly d has a chance to stop a kc offense that has for 1st time all year been playing and practicing together and has shown their true potential while looking more dangerous every week. But again if it a one score game I’m getting the best coach and qb of this generation by a mile against a suspect coach and an average qb and it super cheap. If it a one score game in last 5 minutes I’ll be so happy cause everything I bet on kc -120 or so be insane value cause at that point live they will be no less than -250!!! Imo eagles will have to be so superior that they put this game away before the 4th like they did be commanders cause they not winning a one score game vs a team who basically a clone of the pats and don’t lose close games late, period.
As I said respect your opinion as much as any fan, while at least a tie with @Capaholic and @Lexington 125. So certainly willing to see your side of things long as we can hold off or admit Philly got just as many questionable calls on their trip thru playoffs. If you need vid on the 4 plays im talking bout feel free to ask and I guess I’ll do like the nut jobs pushing kc bogus narrative and fast forward thru Game film to find the obvious calls that helped Philly; may have won them packers game since both teams were terrible!! You can admit packers made a clear and obvious recovery on the fumble right? If we can agree on that maybe there hope we can discuss game without the tin foil hats!! I’d like that.
I’ll provide a more thorough response when I have timeThank you for the kind words brotha. You have good points and going against KC in the playoffs is a sure recipe for disaster. I just feel this Eagles team actually matches up quite well with KC.
Thank you for the kind words brotha. You have good points and going against KC in the playoffs is a sure recipe for disaster. I just feel this Eagles team actually matches up quite well with KC.
I know I’m one of the few, but I will be on the Eagles in this Superbowl for a number of reasons.
These teams played in this game a couple years ago. KC with a better roster back then compared to this year, and only best an Eagles team with a worse roster than this year’s team by 3. This year’s team has a FAR better overall defense and vastly improved secondary. The offense is also better with the best RB in the game.
Philly is better in the trenches on both sides of the ball and that is huge. Jalen Hurts has been taking care of the ball much better lately, and will have 2 weeks to get healthy. Philly is also really out for revenge after some questionable calls contributed to the loss last time out. Philly now knows what to expect in this game and against this team that they know they can beat. Almost everyone is going to expect KC to get their 3 peat. The story is going to be pounded into their heads, especially after KC disposed of Buffalo. Don’t underestimate how much this will energize the Eagles. KC still has issues on the O line that the Eagles can exploit in a way the Bills couldn’t.
The only things giving me pause are 1. The coaching mismatch. As I’ve stated before, Sirianni is a fucking idiot. The team is winning DESPITE him, not because of him. However, we now have coordinators who can make up for some of his idiocy.
2. The Eagles injuries at Center are concerning with both our starting center and backup both with injuries. Hopefully the 2 week layoff can help them heal up.
3. The continued shady ass referees. With game so visible, hopefully they won’t be a major factor, but you never know.
At the end of the day, I’ll be on the Eagles. Not just because I’m a fan, but because I believe they are the better team. But I am going to wait until closer to game time to try and get a better line.
Score prediction? Let’s go with 26-22 Eagles.
Action Network showing 79% of wagers so far have been on Philly +1.5 since open fwiw. No data on ML wagers to this point.
Think their direct affiliations are with b365 and Draftkings but not positive, MGM might be involved in there as well.
Spot on much of this. Eagles were on their way to blowing the Chiefs out before that 14 point swing before half with the bad snap house call. Game was basically over if Eagles went in.
Mahomes was hurt, though. That’s the big difference. But Eagles are a better team this year with a vastly better defense. Their CBs are the best in the league by a wide margin. Mitchell in a redraft could go #2. That’s how good he is.
But Mahomes was hobbling around. So hard to gauge how much closer the game would have been (throw out the fluke 14 swing) had he been healthy. I was on the Chiefs for a used car and I never felt so lucky to win a bet.
Undecided right now which way to go. Are the Eagles 10 better? That’s how you have to cap it.
The eagles have gotten more impactful calls to help tbem
These playoffs than any team. But if you really think kc is gaining a 10 point edge from refs and can’t decide who to bet you really have gone off the deep end buddy., have you recently dropped acid or X? And a lot of it?
As far as rosters, I believe their secondary is worse this year. I also believe their O line is worse as well. For whatever reason, Buffalo wasn’t able to take advantage but we saw what Houston did. Philly has as good of a pass rush and a way better secondary than Houston. We saw what happened when Tampa was able to get consistent pressure on Mahomes in that Superbowl. I’m banking on Fangio being able to do something similar.Respect your opinion more than a lot of fans but I feel like few the statements are more than a little shaded thru fan eyes. I have to go back and look at kc roster for the last meeting cause this kc team (when actually healthy which they are more so now than all season minus rice), this kc version is way better than last years team and think that’s undeniable, again i have to look back to the Philly SB and see their roster for that season as my memory not that great, lol. I’ll just sign off w you Philly roster better even tho not having Kelce the center who replaced him been fantastic but as you referenced both are banged up so im not sure the oline is better? Fair to say Barkley more than balances that out tho, still think eagles have to have the starting center and at close to 100% or i really don’t think they have much chance, commanders d was awful and they still had some success causing problems in A gap, spags attacking that spot against a injured starter or backup I think totally eliminates the los adbatege you feel they have so think waiting to make sure the center is in fact healthy important. He might feel fine now but a back injury can get tweaked getting out of bed let alone in practice!
According to our resident Niners fan we writing revisionist history and now claiming those chokers blowing 10 point 4th qrtr leads were 2 more games refs apparently cheated fir kc, so if you part this redic narrative kc getting special treatment than you better not expect it to change for the SB. However if we honest bout these playoffs Philly has gotten at the very least just as much help from refs to get here as kc did. Surely you agree the packers opening kick return was absolutely shown to be a clear packers recovery on replay? The 3 calls I could point out exactly what times each happened unless you know the ones I speak of in commanders game, I think each one came after one those most untimely fumbles possible, I believe commanders d had actually forced would be 4th downs on each those subsequent drives only for a questionable at best flag extended the drive and basically handed eagles tds. I’d just like a little bit of fairness from everyone convinced that mahomes 17-3 playoff record was thanks to refs!! Then again you seem to be playing the same card as Niners fans, bills fans, and all the kc haters and blaming refs for the 1st loss. In that case why do we think Kc won’t get the calls again?
I don’t think you in minority at all, the more Kc hate/fatigue and more this silly narrative nfl cheats for them gets pushed I think the more support Philly gaining, at worst I think the betting gonna end up pretty evenly split here. Really wish ppl would just say they betting eagles with the argument on paper I agree their roster is very stacked. I think ppl are selling kc roster short since they only played together the last month or so but that one the reasons I like Kc, of course I hope all the nonsense true bout Kc getting more bogus . calls than every other team, I personally think it a lazy and worse yet a ignorant narrative formed from jealously of other fan basis but hey, I hope I’m the naive one and the fix is once again in for the best player and coach on the planet!! I’ll never understand all the ppl kicking and screaming after every game kc games are fixed yet are gonna bet Philly. If you really believed this non sense narrative and deep down didn’t know Philly has gotten just as many shady calls to get here i believe you smart enough you would bet the team the nfl has apparently been helping win all these games!! Why wouldn’t you? Do we seriously believe Philly so good they can win despite the fix?
Also agree it be close, I lean to a slightly higher score cause I don’t think Philly d has a chance to stop a kc offense that has for 1st time all year been playing and practicing together and has shown their true potential while looking more dangerous every week. But again if it a one score game I’m getting the best coach and qb of this generation by a mile against a suspect coach and an average qb and it super cheap. If it a one score game in last 5 minutes I’ll be so happy cause everything I bet on kc -120 or so be insane value cause at that point live they will be no less than -250!!! Imo eagles will have to be so superior that they put this game away before the 4th like they did be commanders cause they not winning a one score game vs a team who basically a clone of the pats and don’t lose close games late, period.
As I said respect your opinion as much as any fan, while at least a tie with @Capaholic and @Lexington 125. So certainly willing to see your side of things long as we can hold off or admit Philly got just as many questionable calls on their trip thru playoffs. If you need vid on the 4 plays im talking bout feel free to ask and I guess I’ll do like the nut jobs pushing kc bogus narrative and fast forward thru Game film to find the obvious calls that helped Philly; may have won them packers game since both teams were terrible!! You can admit packers made a clear and obvious recovery on the fumble right? If we can agree on that maybe there hope we can discuss game without the tin foil hats!! I’d like that.
I'm not a fan of either team and my score is close to yours. 25-20 PhillyI know I’m one of the few, but I will be on the Eagles in this Superbowl for a number of reasons.
These teams played in this game a couple years ago. KC with a better roster back then compared to this year, and only best an Eagles team with a worse roster than this year’s team by 3. This year’s team has a FAR better overall defense and vastly improved secondary. The offense is also better with the best RB in the game.
Philly is better in the trenches on both sides of the ball and that is huge. Jalen Hurts has been taking care of the ball much better lately, and will have 2 weeks to get healthy. Philly is also really out for revenge after some questionable calls contributed to the loss last time out. Philly now knows what to expect in this game and against this team that they know they can beat. Almost everyone is going to expect KC to get their 3 peat. The story is going to be pounded into their heads, especially after KC disposed of Buffalo. Don’t underestimate how much this will energize the Eagles. KC still has issues on the O line that the Eagles can exploit in a way the Bills couldn’t.
The only things giving me pause are 1. The coaching mismatch. As I’ve stated before, Sirianni is a fucking idiot. The team is winning DESPITE him, not because of him. However, we now have coordinators who can make up for some of his idiocy.
2. The Eagles injuries at Center are concerning with both our starting center and backup both with injuries. Hopefully the 2 week layoff can help them heal up.
3. The continued shady ass referees. With game so visible, hopefully they won’t be a major factor, but you never know.
At the end of the day, I’ll be on the Eagles. Not just because I’m a fan, but because I believe they are the better team. But I am going to wait until closer to game time to try and get a better line.
Score prediction? Let’s go with 26-22 Eagles.
I’ve seen some stats that SEEM to indicate that the KC receiving more calls is bogus, but I don’t know the true stats. What I DO know is that, in the games i have watched, they DO seem to receive the benefit of the doubt in KEY SITUATIONS IN BIG GAMES. There’s just been too many instances of it for me to ignore. But maybe they’ve EARNED that similar to how people felt about the Jordan Bulls teams in the 90s? Not saying it’s right or wrong, but I can’t ignore what my eyes are telling meI had my suspicions just hearing all the redic nfl cheats for kc narratives seems to be pushing ppl to eagles, cause of course if you think nfl cheating for kc the natural response is to bet against them?!?!? This truly baffles me! Some of us wait our whole lives to get wind of a college kid shaving points, an nba ref making sure team x wins, a doped up horse at the race track! Never thought it be a nfl conspiracy even tho they have set the rules up where refs have ability to impact outcomes pretty easily I don’t think it worth the risk to the brand to try and help kc, don’t make sense but whatever, let’s run with it and say these guys found out the big secret. If you had the inside scoop on one these fixes would you go on gambling boards crying bout it or sit back quietly and get rich?? I know the answer for myself!!
I’ve seen some stats that SEEM to indicate that the KC receiving more calls is bogus, but I don’t know the true stats. What I DO know is that, in the games i have watched, they DO seem to receive the benefit of the doubt in KEY SITUATIONS IN BIG GAMES. There’s just been too many instances of it for me to ignore. But maybe they’ve EARNED that similar to how people felt about the Jordan Bulls teams in the 90s? Not saying it’s right or wrong, but I can’t ignore what my eyes are telling me
Did OT rules change?Can make all kinds of what ifs regarding the teams but since '86 when the Bears beat the Pats the Superdome has held 5 Super Bowls and the only one stayed under 56 points was the Rams/Pats Brady breakout. Last one was Ravens over Niners when the lights went out.
Bunch of speed on both teams, I'm opposite you guys on under, I think the number should be at least 51.5 and I'd still be on the over.
One point about these 1.5-2 point spreads. Understanding the OT rules is imperative. If both teams are scoring at will (this easily could have come in play in KC on Sunday) remember that even if a team scores a TD, the other team gets a chance to score a TD. Then it becomes sudden death which gives the edge massively in favor of the team that has the ball first since they'd only have to go 30-35 yds to get into FG range. It was brought up on VSiN that it makes sense for the team that scores 2nd to go for 2 as opposed to tie it up and give the other team an instant shot at getting into FG range. Thus, the possibility of a 1 point game if it goes to OT is very much in play. Again, that applies if you think both teams could score pretty easily in OT, and that might be the case with these two if it gets there.
Can make all kinds of what ifs regarding the teams but since '86 when the Bears beat the Pats the Superdome has held 5 Super Bowls and the only one stayed under 56 points was the Rams/Pats Brady breakout. Last one was Ravens over Niners when the lights went out.
Bunch of speed on both teams, I'm opposite you guys on under, I think the number should be at least 51.5 and I'd still be on the over.
One point about these 1.5-2 point spreads. Understanding the OT rules is imperative. If both teams are scoring at will (this easily could have come in play in KC on Sunday) remember that even if a team scores a TD, the other team gets a chance to score a TD. Then it becomes sudden death which gives the edge massively in favor of the team that has the ball first since they'd only have to go 30-35 yds to get into FG range. It was brought up on VSiN that it makes sense for the team that scores 2nd to go for 2 as opposed to tie it up and give the other team an instant shot at getting into FG range. Thus, the possibility of a 1 point game if it goes to OT is very much in play. Again, that applies if you think both teams could score pretty easily in OT, and that might be the case with these two if it gets there.