DFS/Props Week 17 Discussion

ScopeY

Pretty much a regular
Week 1: 8-3
Week 2: 14-14
Week 3: 10-9
Week 4: 6-8
Week 5: 2-0
Week 6: 13-11
Week 7: 6-11
Week 8: 14-9
Week 9: 9-7
Week 10: 7-8
Week 11: 4-2
Week 12: 7-10
Week 13: 8-11
Week 14: 12-13
Week 15: 7-8
Week 16: 15-6

Total: 142-130, 52.2%

2-0 last night, fun slates ahead this week! Although how do they only put on 2 4PM games, come on
 
Christmas Day/3 Game Slate

DAL@WAS


Cowboys have a great P/RB matchup.
Commanders have a great P/RB matchup.
Dak has a meh pressure rate situation, but a great pass potential. Javonte~ has a good rush potential.
Johnson? has a bad pressure rate situation, but a good pass potential. Rodriquez?~ has a great rush potential.
Cowboys TTR is 1st (great).
Commanders TTR is 4th.
Pace of play is 3rd overall (good). O/U rank is 1st (great) on the slate.

- Cowboys with the top TT of the slate, but I really am only interesting diving in if mariota plays, OR we just do a big time game stack, because we will need WAS to keep up, and if I don't go all-in with my lineup, I'd rather avoid it entirely just incase this turns into a blowout vs josh johnson. Another point of concern is what do we do with Javonte --- he'd be my recommended one-off but he only got a season low 57% of snaps last week, and 12 total opps (3 targets), despite practicing fully on friday, maybe if mass entering, go malik davis, maybe a dart on blue, I'm not sure yet. Ferguson used to be atleast a RZ guy, but even over the L4 weeks, he has just 2 RZ targets, in a game where the script projects to be unfavorable to pass catchers, and the loss of volume already, I can't trust him. If you look at the L5/6 games since the bye (taking out the game lamb came out of it), Pickens actually grades out slightly better (29.5% vs 27%, and 11 vs 10.6 aDOTs) -- Lamb does lead slightly in RZ targets, but that has been muted/equalized last few weeks, I still think you can pick your poison either way, or however you have conviction. Flournoy is cheap enough to consider, and he does have a handful of RZ targets, but really he just hasn't been used to much when the big 2 are in --- I am leaning on the side of let others chase the spiked fantasy games he has had due to lamb out/TD catches, pass on all else.

Already alluded to this, but if Mariota is in, he is way to cheap, and I will stack this game harder --- but assuming Johnson is in, we can really look at one-off at best, and that would go to McLuarin/Deebo/Burks, last week all 3 played over 80% of snaps --- burks is almost min priced, and why you can consider, super small sample size, but 33% of his targets went to burks (only 9 pass attempts), Rodriquez only had about a 50%+ snap count, but he did have 16 opps (1 target), if the game is kept somewhat close, he could be a reason why, so if you wanted to get different, I guess you can include him as a one-off candidate.


DET@MIN

Lions have a good RB matchup, bad P matchup.
Vikings have a good RB matchup, meh P matchup.
Goff has a meh pressure rate situation. Gibbs~ has a good rush potential.
Brosmer has a bad pass potential.
Lions TTR is 2nd (good).
Vikes TTR is 4th (meh).
Pace of play is 11th (meh). O/U Rank is 2nd.

- The only way I want Goff is if he throws a pick 6, or MIN gets some fluke-y TDs, because if they play with a lead, I can see the volume suppressed to much. Since Wk11 (taking out ASBs injured game), ASB/JameO/Gibbs make up almost 75% of Goffs targets --- Gibbs is not only coming off a season (and maybe career in which Montgomery is active) high of 86% of snaps, making it b2b games over 80%+, I already alluded to his PPR floor w/ a 24% target share, less than 7 targets just once, but if his snaps remain over 80%, we have to just click his name and figure out the rest. ASBs knee injury scares me, but if he is active, I will stand on the side of playing into the lessened ownership if mass entering, the guy has 13 RZ targets in those 5 games, and we saw him have a great game post injury --- my fear is Brosmer letting the game blow wide open, so I understand the worry. Jame-o is fine, If you had to salary save/dart throw Zylstra/Firkser combined for 9 targets (neither less than 4), and TeSlaa is 2nd in RZ targets since campbell/laporta switch ups, I wouldn't go overboard, but if you need to fit in a star/want a scrub, those are some options.

In Brosmers last start, they were blown out by SEA --- now I obviously don't think we see 4 interceptions, but they really should be playing from a neutral to positive pass script again. In that start, Addison led with a big time 35% target share/11 aDOT --- the guy is in the 4K range and is probably my favorite play of the slate. I do think Jefferson is still to cheap for who he is as well, and don't mind trying to double stack this side of the game with only 6 teams to choose from. I'm totally all Nailor, he has targeted him just twice in 1.5 games, Hockenson has a fine target share/ppr floor (20% in brosmers last start), and there is not a lot of good options, but I think I'd rather the WRs here --- now if he is out, Oliver is a bit cheaper, and should see a huge uptick in snaps/usage, which was already trending that way to begin with, and this would just be a springboard. Both of these backs are Q, if one is out, we obviously can play the other, if both are in, I don't want mason, Jones could be considered, as he has shown some PPR safety, but he could be capped to 15 opps MAX, and has single digit downside.

DEN@KCC

Broncos have a good P matchup, meh RB matchup.
Chiefs have a meh P matchup, bad RB matchup.
Nix has a good pressure rate situation. Harvey has a meh rush potential.
Oladokun has a bad pressure rate situation. Pacheco~ has a bad rush potential.
Broncos TTR is 3rd (good).
Chiefs TTR is 6th (last/bad --- 7+ on 5th).
Pace of play is 4th. O/U Rank is 3rd (bad/last).

- Since the bye (L4), Harvey is avg'g 60% of snaps, and has had a floor of 4 targets in all but 1 game, while scoring at least 1 TD in each. The script is there for them to run it up, and imo he should have a floor of 18~ opps with possible the highest TD equity among backs not named Gibbs. Bryant came back last week, and imo took back over the WR2 job, but now is in concussion protocol... looking back at Week15, when he was last out, Sutton had a big time 31.3% target share/13.6 aDOT, the other WRs didn't really see a jump in snaps, as DEN opted for my 2+ TE sets. Franklin imo looks a bit to expensive, despite a 6-85-1 stat line, but he didn't even hit a 19% target share, and the volume could be reduced in this matchup, I'd rather dart throw mims imo. The TEs here just don't get the volume we want, and there are other cheaper options in better situations.

Assuming Rice/Thornton are still out --- Oladokun had 16 pass attempts last week, and Pacheco had 5 of them (31.3%), he also played 73% of snaps and had 15 opps (7 targets), if he is going to see 73%~ of snaps again, he is absolutely viable in this 3 game slate. Looking at these TEs, I guess a lot of people are going to gravitate here, or maybe Ferguson? but in a positive pass script, Kelce had just 1 target, he's also the highest priced --- I don't think I leave him off completely because we know the potential is there, and the slate doesn't have a clear standout, but I will be underweight. Juju saw the biggest jump, as he played a team high 91% of snaps, and is almost floor priced, HELLO! I would think go Worthy>Hollywood as my targeted options.
 
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Saturday/2 Game Slate

HOU@LAC


Texans have a meh RB matchup, bad P matchup.
Chargers have a bad P/RB matchup.
Stroud has a meh pressure rate situation, and a meh pass potential.. Marks?~ has a bad rush potential.
Herbert has a bad pressure rate situation, and a meh pass potential.
Texans TTR is T-3rd (meh).
Chargers TTR is 2nd.
Pace of play is T-14th (bad). O/U Rank is 2nd (bad/last -- but they're within 1 point)

- All 3 backs appear healthy, so it is really tough to trust either of them, but we've seen the ability at 20~+ opps (3~+ targets) so in such a small slate/where mass entering, I think take your chances with Marks or Jordan (sorry Chubb). Since Strouds return (L4), Collins has a good 26% target share with a great aDOT of 16, and we have yet have a team really push the pace against them in any of those 4 (Raiders/Colts/Chiefs/Cards), and there is a realistic chance LAC does, and if so, he probably has the best ceiling among all WRs. No other WR really has produced at all, I kept hoping for Higgins, and like mentioned earlier, this is a smaller slate, so I guess I get if you go here, but none have a target share of even 12%, aka they are averaging 3~ targets or less, I will mostly pass. Schultz is probably the other consideration here, he is priced like Higgins, but has a 22% target share, while avg'g 1 RZ target/g (Kirk/Higgins don't even have 1 total).

Hampton has seen his snaps, and of course his opps, rise since coming back (L3), hitting 15/16/18 total opps. Vidal is banged up, and imo he should continue to press higher. I think there is a lot of offense that gets passed around on this team, and if that keeps people away, my plan is to mix and match them across most of my lineups, as I want the exposure. McConkey is of course the #1 option, he sees the most snaps, by far, and leads in targets (and aDOT actually) since Hamptons return, and taking out the game QJ didn't play, he is at 21.6%/17.7. After that, it is a crap shoot, QJ has the best aDOT, but we've seen deep shots to harris, we've seen ppr games from Allen, last week they were all within 10% snap counts of each other, if Harris is going to be the lowest owned option, I will be overweight, but I'll sprinkle them all in. Gadsden is my most odd man out player, he has 0 RZ targets over his L3, Disslys return has slightly eaten into his work/time, I'll be very underweight.

BAL@GBP

Ravens have a good P matchup, bad RB matchup.
Packers have a good P matchup, meh RB matchup.
Huntley?? has a bad pressure rate situation, and a meh pass potential.
Willis has a meh pressure rate situation, but a great pass potential.
Ravens TTR is T-3rd (meh).
Packers TTR is 1st.
Pace of play is 13th (meh). O/U Rank is 1st (meh --- but they're within 1 point)

- Flowers had a 41% target share in Huntley's last full start, and in a small sample size, he was better than Lamars air yards per attempt, by about 33%~ --- oh he also showed a rushing floor, carrying it 8 times for 50+ yards, he is absolutely viable, and pairing him with Flowers makes a lot of sense. I just can't stomach playing Henry, I know he hs TD equity, but 0 targets L2, he barely even hits 50% of snaps either, and when playing from behind, it is only worse. I would strictly play him if you think BAL runs away with it, maybe pair with the D too. Bateman/Hopkins/TEs, are all dart throws, pick your poison if you have conviction.

Jacobs is completely off injury report, but I still struggle to trust him, as reinjury concerns, as well as just load management it seems. Because of this he is hard to trust, but if mass entering, you should really include Wilson into your lineups too. Willis only threw the ball 11 times in about 2.5-3~ quarter of football, that worries me for his WRs/TEs if GBP plays with a lead throughout again, what also worries me, is that 5 players saw atleast 2 targets on his 11 pass attempts, and dilution over concentration, with a possible limited pass attempts is not a recipe for success. The one thing going for Willis is he also has a rushing floor with soothes all wounds, and in a scenario where BAL leads, we would want to attack that as well. So if playing him, I'd go all in, and make sure to bring back with BAL players.
 
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Sunday 1PMs/Main Slate

PIT@CLV


Steelers have a meh RB matchup, bad P matchup.
Browns have a great RB matchup, meh P matchup.
Rodgers has a good pressure rate situation, but a meh pass potential.
Sanders has a bad pass potential. Sampson?~ has a meh rush potential.
Steelers TTR is 14th (meh).
Browns TTR is T-17th (bad/last).
Pace of play is 7th. O/U Rank is 9th (bad/last).

- Notes

NOS@TEN

Saints have a great P matchup, good RB matchup.
Titans have a meh P matchup, bad RB matchup.
Kamara??? has a bad rush potential.
Ward has a bad pass potential. Pollard~ has a bad rush potential.
Saints TTR is 10th.
Titans TTR is 15th (meh).
Pace of play is 1st (good). O/U Rank is 8th (bad).

- Notes

SEA@CAR

Seahawks have a great RB matchup, good P matchup.
Panthers have a meh P matchup, bad RB matchup.
Darnold has a great pressure rate situation, and a great pass potential. Walker~ has a great rush potential.
Young has a meh pressure rate situation, and a meh pass potential. Dowdle~ has a bad rush potential.
Seahawks TTR is 5th (good).
Panthers TTR is 16th (meh).
Pace of play is 12th (meh). O/U Rank is T-5th (meh).

- Notes

JAC@IND

Jags have a good P matchup, bad RB matchup.
Colts have a bad P/RB matchup.
Lawrence has a great pressure rate situation, and a good pass potential. Etienne~ has a meh rush potential.
Rivers has a great pressure rate situation, but a meh pass potential.
Jags TTR is 3rd (great).
Colts TTR is 11th.
Pace of play is 10th (meh). O/U Rank is 2nd (good).

- Notes

ARI@CIN

Cards have a great P/RB matchup.
Bengals have a great P matchup, good RB matchup.
Brissett has a good pass potential.
Burrow has a good pressure rate situation. C. Brown has a good rush potential.
Cards TTR is 7th (good).
Bengals TTR is 1st (great).
Pace of play is 2nd (good). O/U Rank is 1st (great).

- Notes

TBB@MIA

Bucs have a great P matchup, good RB matchup.
Dolphins have a good P matchup, meh RB matchup.
Ewers has a meh pass potential. Achane has a good rush potential.
Bucs TTR is 4th (good).
Dolphins TTR is T-12th.
Pace of play is T-8th (meh). O/U Rank is T-5th (meh).

- Notes

NEP@NYJ

Pats have a great P matchup ,good RB matchup.
Jets have a good RB matchup, meh P matchup.
Maye has a great pass potential. Stevenson~ has a meh rush potential.
Cook? has a bad pressure rate situation, and a bad pass potential.
Pats TTR is 2nd (great).
Jets TTR is T-17th (bad).
Pace of play is T-8th (meh). O/U Rank is T-5th (meh).

- Notes

Sunday 4PMs/Main Slate (Cont.)

NYG@LVR


Giants have a great P matchup, meh RB matchup.
Raiders have a great RB matchup, good P matchup.
Dart has a meh pressure rate situation, but a good pass potential.
Giants TTR is T-12th.
Raiders TTR is 8th.
Pace of play is T-8th (meh). O/U Rank is 7th (meh).

- Notes

PHI@BUF

Eagles have a great RB matchup, bad P matchup.
Bills have a meh RB matchup, bad P matchup.
Barkley has a great rush potential.
Cook has a good rush potential.
Eagles TTR is 9th.
Bills TTR is 6th (good).
Pace of play is 16th (bad/last). O/U Rank is 4th.

- Notes
 
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Sunday Night/Showdown Slate

CHI@SFO


Bears have a good P matchup, meh RB matchup.
49ers have a good RB matchup, meh P matchup.
Caleb has a great pressure rate situation, and a good pass potential. Swift~ has a great rush potential.
Purdy has a good pressure rate situation, and a good pass potential.
Pace of play is 5th overall.

- Notes
 
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Monday Night/Showdown Slate

LAR@ATL


Rams have a great RB matchup, and a meh P matchup.
Falcons have a bad P/RB matchup.
Stafford has a great pass potential. Kyren~ has a great rush potential.
Cousins has a great pressure rate situation, but a bad pass potential. Bijan has a meh rush potential.
Pace of play is 6th overall.

- Notes
 
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Williams ov 73.5 rush… he was removed from injury report and logged a full practice the other day. Kinda like that his snaps and touches were so low last week, it sets up nice cause I hate rb’s who got a lot of work and on a short week, think game script outta be perfect for him to do work here against a awful Washington run d. Love this!

Gibbs ov 76.5 rush.. don’t like this as much as Williams but can’t help myself. Full disclaimer I know I lost on Gibbs prop the 1st gm vs Vikings also and he hasn’t been good the past month never even reaching 4ypc. Probably a sign to stay away but the problem is the best way to attack Vikings d is running the freaking ball, if there ever a time for him to have a game now be it, that said I wouldn’t play this if it was on the full slate.

Merry Xmas everyone
 
Williams ov 73.5 rush… he was removed from injury report and logged a full practice the other day. Kinda like that his snaps and touches were so low last week, it sets up nice cause I hate rb’s who got a lot of work and on a short week, think game script outta be perfect for him to do work here against a awful Washington run d. Love this!

Gibbs ov 76.5 rush.. don’t like this as much as Williams but can’t help myself. Full disclaimer I know I lost on Gibbs prop the 1st gm vs Vikings also and he hasn’t been good the past month never even reaching 4ypc. Probably a sign to stay away but the problem is the best way to attack Vikings d is running the freaking ball, if there ever a time for him to have a game now be it, that said I wouldn’t play this if it was on the full slate.

Merry Xmas everyone
Merry Christmas Dan!
 
Williams ov 73.5 rush… he was removed from injury report and logged a full practice the other day. Kinda like that his snaps and touches were so low last week, it sets up nice cause I hate rb’s who got a lot of work and on a short week, think game script outta be perfect for him to do work here against a awful Washington run d. Love this!

Gibbs ov 76.5 rush.. don’t like this as much as Williams but can’t help myself. Full disclaimer I know I lost on Gibbs prop the 1st gm vs Vikings also and he hasn’t been good the past month never even reaching 4ypc. Probably a sign to stay away but the problem is the best way to attack Vikings d is running the freaking ball, if there ever a time for him to have a game now be it, that said I wouldn’t play this if it was on the full slate.

Merry Xmas everyone
I am with you on Javonte, I just felt the same way about his situations 4/5~ days ago, and it failed, but I'll be rooting for it.

I am on

G. Pickens Rec Yds U79.5 -114
J. Addison Rec Yds O42.5 -114
(I like a lot of MINs honestly)
J. Gibbs Rush&Rec Yds O114.5 -114
JuJu Smith-Schuster Receptions O2.5 +129
(I like pachecos too)
C. Sutton Rec Yds O63.5 -110 (i got 62.5 but its the line i see now)

Merry Christmas all!
 
I would love marks ov 49.5 today but I’m a little gun shy w backs dealing w injury after Williams left in 2nd qrtr on his way to what woulda been an easy cash. Pretty much feel the same way about marks here, assuming he healthy and gets 15ish carries no way he doesn’t go over this number. That said a little concerned Houston splits the touches between him, Chubb, and maybe Jordan? Chubb is super tempting at only 14.5 also, think it pretty reasonable to expect he gets at least 4-5 carries and no reason to think he doesn’t get at least 4ypc vs a chargers d you can run on. Think this gonna be a grind it out kinda game where both teams be wise to run the ball as much as possible vs these very good pass d’s.. gotta like Hampton ov 61.5 also, even more so if Vidal doesn’t play.
 
I thought he was questionable or even doubtful yesterday. If he's playing I'd be concerned that it wouldn't take much to knock him out of the game early on.

Oh shit, didn’t realize. Yea that an issue.
 
2-3 on Christmas,

Notes above,

L. McConkey Rec Yds O42.5 -115
T. Harris rec Yds O20.5 -113
N. Collins Receptions O4.5 -122
M. Willis Rush Yds O33.5 -113
E. Wilson Rush Yds O31.5 -114
Z. Flowers O50.5 -114
(this was my biggest, played smaller 80+ +296/100+ +620, lean Huntley rush yds over too)
 
O. Hampton Rush&Rec Yds O86.5 -115
O. Hampton Rush Attempts O16.5 -116
O. Hampton Rec Receptions O2.5 +127
 
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