CFP Who Gets In Discussion

CPA-hole said:
What's your guys numbers on Miami and ND? Fuhrman says ND would be favored over every SEC team.
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Todd is hella bullish on the Irish.

Their offense is damn good. How much has the defense improved the last two months? Numbers wise it's been much better. But, that schedule makes this tougher to tell.
 
Capaholic said:
Counterpoint, Oklahoma sucks and Bama, ND and Miami should all be in before them.

I’m aware OU beat Bama. Check the stats. Bama dominated and imploded.

Not going to happen, but just think the Sooners are barely top 15
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Oklahoma has an elite defense...

Much like OSU, IU and Georgia.

They have a good QB. The rest of the offense is mid at best. That's their issue.

As far as their stake to the playoff? The Bama win was a surprise and that's prob not one the committed expected. That's helped to make this interesting. Otherwise they could have avoided the ND/Miami issue potentially.
 
The other thing that will make this interesting is the Duke win over Virginia. Will this make the committee want to put Miami in more so now? Could the ACC not be represented?
 
Pay Day said:
How many they beat this year
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That's the thing with ND.

Eye test is cute.

The majority of the public focuses on offense and watching the Irish will put ones mind into thinking they are a top 5 team.

Are they? Potentially but we do not know.

Their resume isn't great.

USC is their best win and the Trojans have 3 losses.

They had a showcase home game vs TAMU and lost.

And, they lost SU to Miami.

Take away the name, and label this "Team A" and put the resumes next to each other and things would be easier.

I guarantee there is a LOT of pressure on the committee to have Notre Dame in the dance.
 
B.A.R. said:
The last time we had controversy over Bama the sports book odds were pretty telling, or where they!?

I remember midnight the night before there was a strong number. And then it moved one way big time around 10am.

Which year was that!?

I think 2022. Tcu year?
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Bams getting in over FSU was a big deal a couple years ago after the injury, etc
 
jimmymo said:
Miami gonna get the fukk job...........then Indiana is gonna have to play Notre Dame in the quarters
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Indiana defense will win that game.

And I said I loved them in the look ahead lines. That's not a reaction to tonight.
 
KJ said:
Bams getting in over FSU was a big deal a couple years ago after the injury, etc
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Alabama didn’t get in over FSU. Texas did. The committee made it look that way, but make no mistake, Texas is the team that should have been left out in 2023, despite the win in Tuscaloosa.
 
B.A.R. said:
I understand the sentiment on the number "3".

The issue is playing an extra game -- and that game was versus the #3 team in the country.

We really need this final product of a playoff to come sooner rather than later.
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Not only that, but a #3 team they already beat on their home field. If we’re talking resume, Notre Dame shouldn’t be in the conversation. And if we are prepared to let 3 teams who couldn’t even qualify for their conference championship game get in over the team that lost in that game, then prepare for a new format next year.
 
I think an argument for playoff expansion is that the stakes for deciding who gets in or left out are reduced significantly. Instead of leaving out potential national champs, we're talking about leaving out teams that can't compete with Georgia. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter from a neutral standpoint whether Bama, Miami, or Notre Dame gets in. This isn't a cinderella sport like college basketball where you can get magically hot from deep while your opponent suddenly forgets how to shoot.
 
B.A.R. said:
I'm only putting this because these weekly ratings are all about narratives....


https://twitter.com/x/status/1997542562673181051
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lol. Top seed in the SEC and he doesn’t think there would be people thinking they should be in. It’s certain debatable about putting them in, but show us on the doll where Alabama hurt you Matt.

If there was only the final ranking, imagine telling people Notre Dame would be ahead of Miami
 
gps_3 said:
All homerism aside, there is no world where Notre Dame and Miami should be in over Alabama. Today was bad no doubt. But Miami couldn’t make a conference champ game that was won by a 5 loss team, and they beat ND. 3 SEC teams comfortably in the field got to watch games on TV today while we sent a MASH unit team out against a team we beat on their own field today. I have no idea what the committee will do tomorrow, but if they leave out Alabama, good bye conference championship games (good riddance) and compelling OOC games
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Homer alert but Miami should be in over Alabama and especially Notre Dame. I don't care when the games were played the fact is Miami beat Notre Dame which should put them in over them and Alabama lost to a terrible FSU team which should count for something.
 
Why is a three-loss SEC team worse than a two-loss team that is in the ACC or isn't even in a conference? I don't think that makes sense at all.
 
Brewers888 said:
Homer alert but Miami should be in over Alabama and especially Notre Dame. I don't care when the games were played the fact is Miami beat Notre Dame which should put them in over them and Alabama lost to a terrible FSU team which should count for something.
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That is certainly a reasonable take. But it’s hard to eliminate teams in favor of other teams that either weren’t good enough through the season to play in a conference championship game, or play a weak schedule and lose to the two teams with a pulse that played
 
gps_3 said:
That is certainly a reasonable take. But it’s hard to eliminate teams in favor of other teams that either weren’t good enough through the season to play in a conference championship game, or play a weak schedule and lose to the two teams with a pulse that played
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Alabama over Miami is something I would disagree with but understand but there is absolutely no argument for Notre Dame getting in over Miami.
 
I can’t make a strong case for which of the 3 should be left out. Bama looked awful yesterday and has the worst loss of the 3.

Miami beat Notre Dame but Miami’s 2 losses are worse than ND’s 2 losses.

Tough call….
 
aplous said:
I can’t make a strong case for which of the 3 should be left out. Bama looked awful yesterday and has the worst loss of the 3.

Miami beat Notre Dame but Miami’s 2 losses are worse than ND’s 2 losses.

Tough call….
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No its not a tough call between Miami and Notre Dame with the head to head being the only thing that matters with both of them having two losses and its not exactly like Notre Dame has a signature win over a top 10 team.
 
I think Bama's loss at FSU really gets overblown. The Seminoles were a totally different team at home. They beat Wake 42-7 and lost to Miami and Pitt by a combined total of nine points.
 
If head to head isn't everything to decide who gets in why play games at all and just set the playoffs before the season even starts.
 
I don't care if Notre Dame beat the likes of Stanford by a ton they have no quality wins at all and no USC does not count as one.
 
One thing I know with 100% certainty: whatever the committee decides, the reasoning given by Yuracheck will make zero sense
 
Since its bama, I guess we have to act like this would be the first time a conf championship cost a team a playoff birth.
 
twinkie13 said:
If they win that game, it’s “bama should be the 2 seed”
They lose and it’s “well that game didn’t really matter”

It’s uncanny
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Nobody is saying that the game didn‘t matter. The point is that it‘s unfair to be penalized for playing an extra game that others didn‘t even get (or choose for Notre Dame) to pay
 
VirginiaCavs said:
Nobody is saying that the game didn‘t matter. The point is that it‘s unfair to be penalized for playing an extra game that others didn‘t even get (or choose for Notre Dame) to pay
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2022

Ohio St gets into the playoff doing nothing as usc loses to Utah in pac 12 title game
 
gps_3 said:
All homerism aside, there is no world where Notre Dame and Miami should be in over Alabama. Today was bad no doubt. But Miami couldn’t make a conference champ game that was won by a 5 loss team, and they beat ND. 3 SEC teams comfortably in the field got to watch games on TV today while we sent a MASH unit team out against a team we beat on their own field today. I have no idea what the committee will do tomorrow, but if they leave out Alabama, good bye conference championship games (good riddance) and compelling OOC games
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C'mon brother they had negative rushing yards today. They don't deserve to make the playoffs imo ...The committee will put them in thou
 
B.A.R. said:
What safety?

There are double digit teams playing this weekend in conference championships.

So, the idea of an extra game being harmful doesn't have merit.

One thing 2020 showed is these schools CAN schedule a game within a season with no problem. The myth of having to schedule games years out was somewhat wiped away.

As long as the venue is game ready and no travel concerns -- this shouldn't be an issue.

What's the issue? You're going to have people on both sides afraid of 'something'. They'll find something to nitpick.

I'll say, once the final model is complete -- if they still want to have conference champ games then I would think this might become a bigger thing -- scheduling a Championship Week game as basically your own play in.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that and they find a model that takes away meaningless games. Shall see.

I like taking some basics of Gruden's idea and building on that. Or, basically, take away champ games and expand the playoff. I've always been against more than 16 playoff teams -- BUT -- take away that conference champ game and use that week as your extra week -- I'll bite.
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I was thinking more on the lines of an unsanctioned game set up by two schools and allowed by their conferences. If it was allowed then it would have behooved miami to also set up a game yesterday as well.
 
If you switch the resumes of Miami and Notre Dame there is no one calling for Miami to get in yet Notre Dame is considered a lock. If this is not clear bias just on name and nam alone I don't know what is.
 
If they somehow decided to leave Miami and Notre Dame out and went with BYU with the argument that their only losses were to Texas Tech I wouldn't agree with it but again I will repeat Miami beat Notre Dame and they 100% belong in over them period end of discussion but feel free to keep discussing it anyway.
 
I see a strong case for and agsinst bama nd and Miami.

Ultimately I think bama and nd get in. Miami out. The committee probably split but literally 1 or 2 votes tilt it to bama over Miami.

ND ? In without question (in the committee's mind).

This is what I am thinking.
 
Brewers888 said:
If they somehow decided to leave Miami and Notre Dame out and went with BYU with the argument that their only losses were to Texas Tech I wouldn't agree with it but again I will repeat Miami beat Notre Dame and they 100% belong in over them period end of discussion but feel free to keep discussing it anyway.
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The committee is favoring the body of work of both squads more than the week 1 loss at miami.

In that calculation they have notre dame over miami clear for us all to see.
 
majent said:
The committee is favoring the body of work of both squads more than the week 1 loss at miami.

In that calculation they have notre dame over miami clear for us all to see.
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The body of work from Notre Dame isn't impressive and certainly not enough to overcome the head to head loss.
 
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