carolinablue
College Football Guru
Appreciate it man, you too!Good luck this year Carolina!
Appreciate it man, you too!Good luck this year Carolina!
Looking forward to your insight as always.Best wishes!
This is awesome.Regardless of how anyone might feel about BB, can’t argue with these cold hard facts. TCU game environment is gonna be off the charts.
None of these have lines yet, but you guys know I love the under the radar games, so here are a few I have my eyes on...
- Montana State as a dog
- SMU/East Texas A&M over
- UConn
- Abilene Christian as a dog
- Maine as a dog
- Illinois as a heavy fav
- Army/Tarleton over
- Oklahoma as a heavy fav
- Arkansas as a heavy fav
- Missouri as a heavy fav
Added a few more potential huge favs to the review list...
Maryland vs FAU
Navy vs VMI
Wake vs Kennesaw State
Vandy vs Char So
Purdue vs Ball State
Added a few more potential huge favs to the review list...
Maryland vs FAU
Navy vs VMI
Wake vs Kennesaw State
Vandy vs Char So
Purdue vs Ball State
- Abilene Christian as a dog
ACU might be rough this year, a lot of new and without knowing much on them yet, a pretty big step back could take place. Don't know about Tulsa either.
Appreciate you man, thank you!Good luck this year Carolina!
Looking forward to a huge year from you man!Best wishes!
VHS-C and Mini DV...yeah I am that old!Hello! Got any old wrestling videos on youtube? Maybe still tucked away on VHS!
Let's talk some FCS teams shall we...
Montana State - just off the top of my head, and I think the thing we all think about is the Idaho-Oregon game last year, and that might be top of mind for Oregon coaching staff and players as well. Idaho did have a strong defense last year (that got banged up as the season went on), but obviously they did a great job in Autzen week 1 - BUT, Oregon still gained nearly 500y on them, just 24 pts though. Montana State's DL will be terrific this year despite losing the Big Sky D POY and they are deep still. Elsewhere the D is more iffy, LBs, but they should be ok enough for FCS there, not sure about vs Oregon, but especially the secondary which could best be called questionable and there is a new CB coach. That is where I would assume this team is going to be vulnerable early in the season. Unless the DL just has a lot of wins and causes pressure....so depending how you or anyone thinks Oregon is going to be offensively and the OL, you can weigh that accordingly.
Of course we know Tommy is gone at QB. Most seem to think that Vigen is going to go with a 2-QB system he did with Chambers and Mellot prior to last year, with last year's backup Wilson splitting time with incoming transfer Lamson from Stanford who Vigen recruited out of HS. Lamson is not a good passer and nobody really knows if Wilson is a good passer. Good being, Mellot was somewhat of a limited passer as well, but he had been in so many battles and played so many games even if he only read half the field, it was good enough for them and his athletic ability was outstanding. I think Wilson and Lamson probably possess some of that ability with their legs, but arm? Don't know. Guess I'm assuming it is Wilson/Lamson, could be Duchien/Lamson. Compare that to Idaho vs Oregon last year, Idaho really didn't do much of anything on offense, but their QB was a known commodity in that when they lost their 2 year starter after the 2023 season, nobody in the fan base was worried because they knew or had heard Layne's ability and cool demeaner. Again, he didn't do much, but it was assumed he could. He only passed 11-25-168-1-1 and was sacked 4x. Now we are talking about Montana State QBs we don't really know what they can or could do. Montana State QBs can escape the pressure better than Layne could, but not sure they will have much more success passing. Cats also have a new OC, so another unknown variable if or how much they will deviate from the normal Vigen script.
Best thing about the MSU offense is their RB room and it is stacked. They are legit 4 deep so that is what Montana likes to do anyway, run, and these guys can do that. The OL took some hits in terms of guys lost, but they played so many guys out of necessity (injuries) and luxury (were up big in so many games). I don't know exactly how good the Oregon front is going to be, I'll assume very good just because, but I wouldn't think the MSU first line OL unit is going to be vastly overwhelmed. When they have to sub and rotate, that could be an issue because the good depth guys are now starters so the new depth guys could be vastly overmatched vs what the Ducks are going to have.
Capable OL depsite some big name losses, great RB unit...QB is a question. Great DL, probably ok at LB and secondary is a question.
One other note, well actually two. First, Montana State has a HUGE home game on deck week 2 vs SDSU. It's their "gold rush" game and they have only beaten SDSU 1 out of 5, losing the last two on the road one was a playoff elimination in '22 and the other most recent was '23 when MSU kicked 3 short RZ FGs and only scored 1 TD on 5 trips which allowed Jacks to come back and win. So whatever that is worth, big game.
The final thing, what do you project this line to be? In 2022 Oregon State blew Montana State's doors off by 40. That Montana State team, those Montana State teams finished 11-4 2019, 2020 no games, 12-3 2021, 12-2 2022 so those were good Bobcat teams and they weren't close to that other Oregon team. Massey has line at 27.5. Is that enough?
In the SMU game, I am hoping for anything under 59 as I think SMU is good for 52 and East A&M should be good for at least 10-14 as I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple breakdowns on defense for the Mustangs, leading to cheap scores from A&M, but this one won't be in doubt by the time the 2nd quarter start in my opinion. I am thinking 55-10 type game, maybe 52-7 worst case.You are probably projecting an East Texas A&M - SMU total in the low 50s and you are probably assuming SMU could eclipse that themselves? Seems possible. I haven't looked too much at ETAM much yet. San Diego State scored 45 on them week 1 last year, but that was a little misleading because in the 2H Aztecs had a pick-six and fumble recover in the EZ in typical San Diego State fashion I guess. SMU should be better offensively to not have to rely upon those types of plays for points.
UConn is playing CCSU I see (I really haven't gotten into the week 1 schedule yet). I've only seen the CCSU spring roster so they could've lost more, but 4 of their OL were 1st or 2nd Tm All-NEC and 3 of those 4 are gone. They had 7 All-NEC guys on D and 4 of those guys are gone. I actually thought they lost more on D, but maybe not, or maybe I don't know yet because the roster is not up to date. I have no reference at all on UConn to speak from so I really don't know here. CCSU was fun last year huh? Central Michigan did hang 66 on them in the opener. Against teams in their own neighborhood they were great. Not sure what neighborhood UConn is in, line probably 35-ish?
I will most likely play Illinois at 40.5 or less as I think that one has something like 52-3 written all over it, but completely under the first half views. I pretty much only play full games as I never had much luck with 1H plays outside of the magical Alabama first half run which many of us benefitted from a few years ago (man, that was beautiful).ACU might be rough this year, a lot of new and without knowing much on them yet, a pretty big step back could take place. Don't know about Tulsa either.
I know Liberty had a lackluster game last year in the opener vs Campbell who was pretty bad most of the year vs their peers. And it seems like Liberty underwhelmed often last year. What you get with Maine is a very experienced QB in Peevy, but he's not going to put a game on his shoulders, but he does enough to be capable. They lost their best receivers, but did add a couple interesting transfers. Maine doesn't have a good running game and the OL is probably average for FCS. Maybe they sustain a few drives and have a couple opportunities to score. The bad thing is their D doesn't stop many teams and I don't think there is much optimism they would be good enough to stop an FBS offense. Montana State was up on them 38-7 HT before calling off the dogs (cats, sorry). Monmouth put 61 on them, Delaware 44, Oklahoma 59. They gave up 450y+ 5x last year.
Illinois vs Western Illinois, I would like Illinois as well, but what is the price going to be? low to mid 40s probably. If they get up 42-0 HT, how is that 2H going to play out? This is a rough game for the W ILL O no doubt and their D is going to matchup horribly. I don't know this to be true and I'm not even sure I know enough to have this opinion, but the Indiana coach probably wanted to run it up on them last year the way the Hoosiers did. Is Bielema going to want to do the same thing? I posted on of the other threads in response to VK, ILL only scored 14 in the 2H after getting up 31-0 HT. Indiana on the other hand scored 35 in the 2H after getting up 42-3 HT. I think I would play Illinois 1H.
Tarleton still just has their 2024 roster up, so I can't get into them yet. I have heard they return a lot of defensive impact players and I know they added a lot of offensive players, receivers, who are expected to be pretty good right away. Tarleton plays week 0 so that is good and they play a pretty bad team so they shouldn't have to stress too much to get past Portland State and with Army early in the season, one assumes as we sometimes do the extra prep time has them able to play the option better. What's the angle on the over here? Probably assuming Army's O won't be stopped too much and banking on a good Tarleton O from last year is still good this year? One caution, QB is back, but really this team I thought was best when they were run first. Some of the times they put the game on Garbalis' arm it didn't go so well (INTs). He's a good QB, not great, maybe he will take next step this year. I think their OL is a bit of a concern. Maybe only one contributor back and went portal for most of the other spots. If he is under pressure, that probably leads to bad decisions by him. What you think this total is?
Hoping for DD with ACU but don't think I will get it as I think 7.5 will be the open and that will be a pass for me as I would like 14.5 as I think this one is close going into the 4th.Wanted to circle back and talk more about this game because it looks like Tulsa might be fairly rough also. And Tulsa doesn't have a great ATS record vs FCS, such as 2021 opening day loss vs UC Davis. You all will know about Tulsa's weaknesses more than I will.
ACU loses a 3yr starting QB with over 8000y passing who transferred to WKU. Their OC/QB coach went there too. They lose their top 2 WRs, but do return a decent supporting cast if they can get 1-2 go-to guys to emerge or some unhearded transfers to play that role. Lose a really key RB who not only ran for 1300y, but also caught 45 passes. They do have some good adds here in the portal. The OL loses all 5 full time starters, a 2 game starter and a top reserve who played 28 career games (140+ career starts gone). 7 OL were added in the portal, all of which have only been career reserves or haven't played much at all. So there is a lot they need to put together here.
The QB position might've been answered with Stone Earle who started some games here back in 2020-21 before he tried his hand at North Texas and Marshall. He started the first 5 games at Marshall last year. And now he comes back here. He is a guy who will run, McIvor wasn't that type. They also have last year's backup who started the round 1 playoff game, only threw 6 incompletions in that one, but 3 were INTs. I assume Earl is the guy. All the other holes to fill, who knows. The OL obviously being a big concern.
The D should be in better shape, just need to fill the interior of the DL which suffered some big losses - both their DT and NG transferred up to P4. It's portal again to guys at lower level FBS (Rausaw from NTex) or guys that haven't played much. Everywhere else the D is in good shape. DE and rush LB are back, top LB from '24 back and top LB from '23 who missed '24 back. Then 7 of top 8 DBs are back plus they added a bunch new DBs in the portal.
Earle has played enough football to make this O work, it's just what he is working with and what is blocking for it. It was an average UAC D, but they weren't bad or anything. They did hold NDSU to to just 3.3 ypc on the ground and 1 of 10 3rd down and their RZ D only allowed 2 TDs on 6 trips by the Bison. Their run D and 3rd down D in the second half of the season were just as key as their O enroute to conference championship.
So ACU could be good enough here vs Tulsa because Tulsa is going to have some vulnerabilities. Tre Lamb has been a strong HC at the FCS. He took 24 of his players from Gardner Webb to ETSU last year. I think he only has maybe 3 of his former players on the Tulsa team now. So not like he's working with players that know the system like he had last year at ETSU.
What is this line going to be? Perception is an FCS 2nd round playoff team vs a bad FBS team. Team that was a 2pt conversion away from beating Texas Tech last year. Massey has 3.5, that's pretty low if that ends up being the number.
I think Navy will be around 34.5 but hoping to get 30.5. I don't see how VMI stops the Navy offense as Navy should be good for about 41-45 so with VMI maybe hitting 3 or 7, I would still be good at 33.5 or less. Could see 41-7 type game worst case, so will most likely play on anything 33.5 or less.I would have to assume Navy is a good play if the line is in the 30s, not sure about 40s. VMI is strange because their HC, Danny Rocco is pretty respected and a long time head coach at various FCS schools all with success. Not sure why he took this job. But his first year here 2023 he had them at 5 wins off a 1 win season the year prior and then last year they dropped back down to 1 win. #1 QB (guy who started some games in '23 and one as tFr in '22), Shannon was hurt in game 2 last year and the offense was just down right putrid. 8 games vs FCS they didn't even make it to 250 ttl yards and and half those games they didn't make it to 200! I do not think VMI takes transfers. Big problem in this era because their best players generally transfer out and they can't replace them other than trying to develop freshmen. There is really nothing to like here unless Rocco can create some magic and Shannon's return from injury results in a significant improvement of O. Even if it does, the D looks like it will remain pretty rough. Looks like Navy is pretty good and should roll it up here I'd assume.
Charleston Southern is a team I think will be better on offense this year depending how the new QB(s) play (a partial starter from '23 who was hurt in '24, a Dll transfer and a rFr reserve from last year's team), but they will also likely be worse on defense. I don't expect the former to matter vs Vandy, and I'd bet the later will matter all of which should equal a big Vandy win. That's another game where the favorite could get the Over themselves depending where its lined and totaled.
The Char So game I have as a play at 37.5 or less but might play it up to 40.5 as I think this one is a 52-7 or 52-10 type of game. Vandy team total also may be worth a look at anything under 50, and that probably goes for a few of my plays (Illinois, Navy, OU, etc), but won't play side and TT, so if side is intriguing enough, I will lock it in and not worry about the team totals.I would have to assume Navy is a good play if the line is in the 30s, not sure about 40s. VMI is strange because their HC, Danny Rocco is pretty respected and a long time head coach at various FCS schools all with success. Not sure why he took this job. But his first year here 2023 he had them at 5 wins off a 1 win season the year prior and then last year they dropped back down to 1 win. #1 QB (guy who started some games in '23 and one as tFr in '22), Shannon was hurt in game 2 last year and the offense was just down right putrid. 8 games vs FCS they didn't even make it to 250 ttl yards and and half those games they didn't make it to 200! I do not think VMI takes transfers. Big problem in this era because their best players generally transfer out and they can't replace them other than trying to develop freshmen. There is really nothing to like here unless Rocco can create some magic and Shannon's return from injury results in a significant improvement of O. Even if it does, the D looks like it will remain pretty rough. Looks like Navy is pretty good and should roll it up here I'd assume.
Charleston Southern is a team I think will be better on offense this year depending how the new QB(s) play (a partial starter from '23 who was hurt in '24, a Dll transfer and a rFr reserve from last year's team), but they will also likely be worse on defense. I don't expect the former to matter vs Vandy, and I'd bet the later will matter all of which should equal a big Vandy win. That's another game where the favorite could get the Over themselves depending where its lined and totaled.
OU is interesting because after two out of the last three years being 6-7 seasons, the fan base is getting a little restless, so I expect OU to do what OU does, which is demolish FCS opponents, as even when OU is having an off year, they still take care of business against the FCS. I wouldn't be shocked if Illinois State puts up an early score to make folks a little restless, but eventually talent and depth will prevail and OU may hit 62 in this one, but more likely seeing this as a 55-13 type game. Would have played this up to 40.5, so jumped on the 34.5, as I expect this line to hit at least 38 in the coming weeks.I'll just say on the other teams, I think taking SEC vs FCS is a very good proposition. Illinois State has some hype and potential this year and they went to the second rounds of the playoffs last year. But that good Illinois State team got absolutely steamrolled vs Iowa (all 2H), NDSU and Missouri State. DL is very good for FCS, front 7 probably very good for FCS. Secondary is a big question for them. Offensively, they should be pretty good vs teams their own size. Last year they weren't vs Iowa or even some of their conference opponents. It should be noted they were 10-4 last year, but notably they did not play SDSU or USD who were 2 of the 3 co-champs. Add those teams to the schedule and it's 2 more losses. So yeah, even for a team that should be good within the tough MVFC, they weren't all that last year and I will assume do not compete well with Oklahoma. But I don't know Oklahoma, they struggled some last year or something?
Arkansas and Missouri I would blindly say, those are probably good plays assuming you get in at good numbers vs Alabama A&M and Central Arkansas. UCA should've been so much better the last 2 years than they were and now their headline players are gone, but the coaching staff that couldn't win with the best players is still there, so I'm pretty pessimistic on them at the surface.
Thanks again for taking the time to drop in your thoughts, as I always appreciate your insight!
If I wasn't a UNC guy, I would have taken the -33.5 as Elon will be lucky to get a FG in that one. I see it as 45-3 type game.
I took some Duke at FanDuel against Elon today. While I do not one shred of info on Duke, I expect Elon to be worse this year and it is kind of crazy if you watched that game last year that Duke only won 26-3 as a low-mid 20s fav. So they are TD higher fav this year, my assumption is the Duke O will actually score on them this time around and Elon's O will still be bad.
Do you have a pulse on Duke?
Leaning UGA as I’m not sure how Marshall scores more than 7 at most. Thinking UGA should be good for 50+ even with all the new pieces, plus the backups will be hungry to show what they can do as well. Thoughts?
Yeah I’ve gone back and forth with myself on this one as on one hand I can’t see UGA putting up less than 49 and Marshall will be lucky to get 7. But, also wouldn’t be shocked at a 45-7 type score so decided to lay off which means they will win 66-0 haha. Appreciate you taking the time to drop in the thread, best of luck this season!I've seen some power ratings that have this line at -50. FBS vs FBS in week one laying >37 has a really strong trend towards the fav. With that being said, Georgia has a history of letting really bad teams stick around and cover the spread.
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8/30 10pm Washington State -9.5 115 FD
Would probably play this up to 13.5 as Idaho is definitely a solid team but I think the WSU coaching change actually helps me in this one rather than hurts.
I fully expect WSU to try and replicate the SDSU game plan and run the ball 40+ times for 200+ yards leading to the cougars wearing down the Vandals in the 2H for a solid yet unspectacular DD victory, so definitely see value at 9.5, as the line may hit 14 by game time.
Kirby has a history of going under in the opener.I've seen some power ratings that have this line at -50. FBS vs FBS in week one laying >37 has a really strong trend towards the fav. With that being said, Georgia has a history of letting really bad teams stick around and cover the spread.
Yeah, definitely should be an interesting one as I actually like the WSU QB and think he will do well this season although the schedule does him no favors. I would not be surprised if Idaho stuck around for a half or even into the 3rd, but ultimately I think WSU wears em down and from a value standpoint anything under 2 TDs would have been a play for me as if WSU doesn't take care of business in this one, it will no doubt be a long season. Completely agree that this will be a nice nightcap for sure!WSU QB is going to be Zevi Echaus? Former Bryant gun slinger, saw him play the bowl here last year. WSU staff might feel more compelled to have a game plan suited his skills. SDSU had their blueprint, but OC was just there 1 season and when he was at UND their offenses were a little more open then ground and pound. Joshua Woods new QB at Idaho (Fresno running QB also started their bowl). Think this could be a really entertaining game and one I'm looking forward to cap the night off with.
We will see if I regret this one hahaBoise line keeps dropping to the point where I may take a shot if it gets to 5.5 120 territory but need to dig deeper into that one. Miss State line also continues to drop as I had that one marked as a potential play if it got into single digits and the way it looks it may very well get there. With that said, I need to dig into that move as well but definitely food for thought as we get closer, although I told myself no road favs unless they were top tier teams, so Miss State is automatically eliminated using that logic.
Looks like Buffalo line is now up to 18.5 so it’s back on my radar as I’m gonna see if it keeps rising before I decide whether or not to lock it in. Would be more of a play against Minnesota as I’m not convinced they can do enough to win by 20+.
Yeah I had it on my initial list but I’m a favs player so my dog plays are few and far between and the line has bounced between 18 and 16.5.Lembo's Ball State teams competed well with Big Ten in his years there. Like losing by 5 as +19 dog at NW, losing by 4 as +19 dog at Iowa and both those Ball State teams finished with losing records. Believe he was 4-0 ATS vs B1G at BSU and they beat Virginia once while he was there. Year 2 for he and staff in Buffy. Looks like another good team. Quickly looked, Fleck's Minny teams 1-4 ATS vs MAC? I think this one might be on my radar!
FD has alt line of Buffalo +21.5 166 now up but would like to see a little lighter premium for the lineLooking at team totals now…
Rutgers 30.5 is a possibility
Yeah I had it on my initial list but I’m a favs player so my dog plays are few and far between and the line has bounced between 18 and 16.5.
I don’t mind paying a few cents for certain lines so curious to see if it goes towards 20 or back towards 17. 18.5 is interesting as it protects 28-10, 35-17 etc. Won’t get 21.5 even with some juice but that would be my ideal.
Also had Fresno on initial list and now that it is 14.5, it has my interest again after bouncing between 14.5-12.5. Ideal would be 17.5 with reasonable juice, but don’t think that happens. Will be keeping an eye on FD and BM for sure.