Black Monday for Coaches..

ok so who goes to the Jets??

Ryan leaves the defense in a good position (at least the front seven)....

even if he goes to Atlanta he doesn't have the players on defense - he can run whatever scheme he wants but without the players it doesn't matter.....
also think he needs to get a top offensive coordinator where ever he goes..... don't know if his ego can do this yet??
 
Mike Smith officially out as Falcons HC.

On a side note yesterday my brother got a Linked In invite from Mike Tice (haha mustve known the housecleaning was coming)
 
If Fisher keeps relying on Bradford being his QB and Schotty as his OC, he'll be gone in a year or 2. His coaching record got worse with more talent.
 
wiseplayer said:
If Fisher keeps relying on Bradford being his QB and Schotty as his OC, he'll be gone in a year or 2. His coaching record got worse with more talent.
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FoPK (Friend of Peter King) - Jeff Fisher just finished his 20th season as NFL head coach. He's had 6 winning seasons.
 
my hope is a combo of Rex Ryan HC and Trestman OC

most people seem to think Atlanta for Rex though

local Oakland guys are saying Jack Del Rio gets an interview and would be interested in the job hes from there
 
guaranteeed said:
my hope is a combo of Rex Ryan HC and Trestman OC

most people seem to think Atlanta for Rex though

local Oakland guys are saying Jack Del Rio gets an interview and would be interested in the job hes from there
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Why do do you want either of those losers anywhere near your team?
 
guaranteeed said:
my hope is a combo of Rex Ryan HC and Trestman OC

most people seem to think Atlanta for Rex though

local Oakland guys are saying Jack Del Rio gets an interview and would be interested in the job hes from there
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I think ryan and trestman could do great things in Atlanta

As a raiders fan, not sure you want del rio. I would want them to go for a good college coach or someone that hasn't tried and failed in the NFL already
 
Only reason Trestman was surprisingly, improbably brought back into the league was to "fix" Cutler. Marc, you had one job!
 
And the Ryans are fun to watch from afar, not worth the circus. They don't play.
 
tipyerbartender said:
Only reason Trestman was surprisingly, improbably brought back into the league was to "fix" Cutler. Marc, you had one job!
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think the same could be said for any coach that has worked with Cutler. THe dude is uncoachable, even the likes of Caldwell would be clueless to work with Cutler.
There are just some players that are easy to work with and get it, and then dumbasses who just won't listen.
 
I just don't think miserably failing as a HC in the NFL with an offense that underachieved, after years of crazy success in the CFL, credentials a guy for an OC job. I'd prefer a guy with some more recent spurs in the NFL.

And I wouldn't hire a Ryan unless he first agreed to lop off his tongue.
 
Little off the subject, but remember when Rob Ryan said he'd be hired the next day if he were fired from the Cowboys. And then like 300 days passed.
 
Always liked Trestman, maybe because he was the only OC that could get the Plummer Cardinals to the playoffs and he always seemed to be more creative than the normal bumfucks calling plays in the League
 
Can't believe teed, one of CTG's most unique and progressive sports thinkers, wants failed retreads to coach his Raiders.
 
Bernie Kosar also speaks highly of Trestman. But he's a bitter, concussed, punchy, penniless, divorced drunk with a daughter in porn.
 
I don't think Trestman was that creative but he did try to run a simple offense. He just didn't have the necessary leadership skills to be a head coach. Might make it as an OC but tough to overcome all the stuff that went on in Chicago.
 
Shanny's kid and the Browns parting ways is kind of interesting. I bet this has at least a little to do with Johnny Foot-tall.
 
tipyerbartender said:
Shanny's kid and the Browns parting ways is kind of interesting. I bet this has at least a little to do with Johnny Foot-tall.
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They've been talking about it here on the local sports radio station since he's supposed to come and interview for the HC job...apparently he wanted to keep playing Hoyer when management wanted Manziel to play. They've been talking about the possibility of him bringing Hoyer with him if he does get the job...
 
Lareux said:
They've been talking about it here on the local sports radio station since he's supposed to come and interview for the HC job...apparently he wanted to keep playing Hoyer when management wanted Manziel to play. They've been talking about the possibility of him bringing Hoyer with him if he does get the job...
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This tool shanny is going to get a HC interview? lol
 
Shanahan, the kid, has somehow parlayed a last name and a couple shitty offenses into NFL HC candidacy.
 
I do like Haslam's trigger. He's like the program director in the Howard Stern movie. "Fuck you 1000%!"
 
tipyerbartender said:
I do like Haslam's trigger. He's like the program director in the Howard Stern movie. "Fuck you 1000%!"
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Don't you think that the quick trigger, and seemingly perpetual change that's taken place in Cleveland with their coaches is one of the main issues though? It's certainly not helping the players to have new coaches and coordinators every year.

I hate the fact that teams have such quick triggers...most times it makes no sense and sets the franchise back...then they simply replace with another recycled coach or some up and coming coordinator who doesn't deserve a job in the first place. Seems like a loser's mentality to continually blame and fire/change coaches.

Save me the "win now" BS that they like to spew too. Some of these franchises haven't won in 10+ yrs (Buffalo, Oak, Cle, etc)....so don't tell me they are in this "win now" mode and that a coaching/coordinator change is going to allow that winning to happen. Every owner is making money, take a few years and let a coach do his fucking job and develop a winning culture. Most front offices just seem too stupid to realize this...and its probably not a coincidence that the teams who have lost for years and years are the teams who keep changing coaches. Bunch of fucking idiots.
 
Lareux said:
Don't you think that the quick trigger, and seemingly perpetual change that's taken place in Cleveland with their coaches is one of the main issues though? It's certainly not helping the players to have new coaches and coordinators every year.

I hate the fact that teams have such quick triggers...most times it makes no sense and sets the franchise back...then they simply replace with another recycled coach or some up and coming coordinator who doesn't deserve a job in the first place. Seems like a loser's mentality to continually blame and fire/change coaches.

Save me the "win now" BS that they like to spew too. Some of these franchises haven't won in 10+ yrs (Buffalo, Oak, Cle, etc)....so don't tell me they are in this "win now" mode and that a coaching/coordinator change is going to allow that winning to happen. Every owner is making money, take a few years and let a coach do his fucking job and develop a winning culture. Most front offices just seem too stupid to realize this...and its probably not a coincidence that the teams who have lost for years and years are the teams who keep changing coaches. Bunch of fucking idiots.
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The Browns could certainly use a little continuity, but it's not like they keep letting good ones get away either. I think the only HC fired by the Browns to get another HC job this millennium was Romeo. And that didn't work out. This is like 10 coaches and 15 OC's now, in that neighborhood. Pitt and Balty and Cincy have had like two or three in the same time period.
 
tipyerbartender said:
The Browns could certainly use a little continuity, but it's not like they keep letting good ones get away either. I think the only HC fired by the Browns to get another HC job this millennium was Romeo. And that didn't work out. This is like 10 coaches and 15 OC's now, in that neighborhood. Pitt and Balty and Cincy have had like two or three in the same time period.
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Then wouldn't they, at some point, take a look at the one(s) making the hires that result in the revolving door of coaches? Does it make more sense A.the ones making the hires aren't really good at their jobs as far as evaluating what's needed in a coach and going out and hiring the "right guy," or B. that the ones making the decisions just have the absolute worst luck ever and just hire the wrong guys? That's some really bad fucking luck some of these owners/presidents/front offices have had for years and years if you think B makes more sense....like the worst possible luck in history and some of them should be surprised they aren't struck by lightning once a week with how bad their luck is.

It's now 6 OCs in 6 seasons for the Browns. How in the holy hell could any QB, or any other player, really get a feel for an offense and succeed?

The Bills have been the same way, they even brought back Marv Levy, who was, quite possibly, the worst GM in NFL history. They and the Browns (and Raiders) have done pretty much the same thing for a decade or so...change the coaches often, change the GM a time or two, etc....at some point, the 'blame' has to travel higher up the food chain to those who are making the decisions, especially if they are the ones who keep hiring the wrong coaches/GMs....how many times can an organization continually make the same mistakes before they realize maybe the wrong guy is pulling the strings (or whatever the case may be...a clueless owner, a bad President, whatever)?

If you've done something one way like the Bills and Browns for so long, and it's clearly not working, yet you keep the status quo....how does that make any sense and why do fans continue to support that BS? For the Bills, I've always thought that Wilson was the issue...and now that he's gone and Pegula owns them it's quite possible things will change...I'd like to actually be a Bills fan again, but I just couldn't do it anymore with Wilson as the owner. It's been a few years now for Haslam in Cleveland, it should infuriate Browns fans that he is doing the same exact thing as the previous ownership, as it clearly isn't working and doesn't seem to be the way to run an NFL franchise.
 
There's a reason the good ones turn down the "opportunity" to coach in Cleveland
 
The guys hiring the guys keeps changing. Browns have also had a bunch of GM's, team prezes, football czars, and three owners in 15 years.

Haslam fired Holmgrem because he used to beat him into work. And Haslam was coming from Tennessee.

I actually do like Haslam. He's going to get it right, I think. He needs to cut that QB he drafted though.
 
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