that was weird@LoriSchmidt: Good stuff. RT @NFL_ATL Matt Barkley gets put on the spot by Steve Mariucci. The results are ... interesting. http://t.co/b8xtQMFu4t …
looks like defensive drafting time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:drooling:Yup...us or Detroit
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@LoriSchmidt: Good stuff. RT @NFL_ATL Matt Barkley gets put on the spot by Steve Mariucci. The results are ... interesting. http://t.co/b8xtQMFu4t …
With Star Whatever his names heart condition, Ive got Milliner as leader in the clubhouse for us right now...
Though I could see a fliping with Detroit and then picking Jordan
Galtie, you must not have seen a Browns game since 1987.
never. what is the deal behind it?
yea Moff doesnt play, but damn. Never seen thatThink it's just something the strength coach uses to motivate players.
ya? which one?Point taken, but still think you can do better at #6. Warmack, Floyd, and Jordan will all still be available at that pick.
Lol
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on NFL 32 Wednesday that the Raiders have interest in West Virginia QB Geno Smith with the No. 3 overall pick in the draft.
"Word around the NFL is the Raiders have interest in Geno Smith with that third overall pick in the draft," said Mort. "Now I can't get this confirmed by the team, but Geno Smith is a guy that everybody sees as a top-10 pick right now -- not everybody -- but he's got a chance to go in the top ten. And if the Raiders do like him, you better take him at No. 3." Mortensen indicated that Oakland would likely release Carson Palmer if Smith were drafted.
Feb 27 - 5:46 PM
NFL Combine Fallers
Wednesday, February 27, 2013
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This is a rundown of 10 players who hurt their draft stock with underwhelming or poor testing at the 2013 NFL Scouting Combine.
Bang it here for 15 Combine Risers.
1. Georgia LB Jarvis Jones -- Jones raised immediate red flags by forgoing his entire Combine workout, before the bottom all but fell out during medical exams. Tests confirmed Jones has a narrowing of his spine between the C4 and C5 vertebrae, and numerous teams have now removed him from their draft boards. Much like Da'Quan Bowers two years ago, Jones enters the decision-making portion of "draft season" with off-the-charts college production but major health concerns. It's not out of the question that Jones falls deep into the first round, or out of it entirely.
Realistic Landing Spots: 49ers at No. 31, Ravens at No. 32, Eagles at No. 35.
2. LSU DE Sam Montgomery -- Montgomery turned in a fine workout -- 4.81 forty and 34 1/2-inch vertical jump at 6-foot-3, 262 -- but his media interview was the most ill-advised in recent Combine memory. Not only did he throw teammate Barkevious Mingo under the bus by admitting the two regularly placed pricey bets in college, Montgomery told reporters he used to take off games versus weaker opponents. Not plays off. Entire games. USA Today's Tony Pauline subsequently reported LSU's coaches are "slamming" Montgomery to curious NFL teams.
Realistic Landing Spots: Dolphins at No. 82, Bengals at No. 84, Broncos at No. 90.
3. Ohio State DT Johnathan Hankins -- The arrow was already pointing down on Hankins after a highly disappointing 2012 season. His stock will fall further following a painfully sluggish Combine. After weighing in at 6-foot-3 and a sloppy 320, Hankins ranked 34th-of-37 D-Linemen in both the forty (5.31) and vertical (26"), 33rd in the ten-yard split (1.82), and 25th-of-33 participants in the three-cone drill (7.59). Hankins is carrying 320 pounds, but the numbers suggest he doesn't carry it well. Once a consensus first-rounder, it would be surprising at this point if Hankins cracked the top 32.
Realistic Landing Spots: Packers at No. 55, Texans at No. 57, 49ers at No. 61.
4. Stanford RB Stepfan Taylor -- Taylor's lack of short-area burst is evident on game tape, and he was exposed as a below-average all-around athlete in Indianapolis. In the forty-yard dash, 5-foot-9, 214-pound Taylor ran a fullbackish 4.76 to rank 27th-of-33 running back participants. His 1.64 ten-yard split came in 26th. 32 running backs performed the vertical and broad jumps, and Taylor's marks of 30 inches and 9-foot-2 came in 29th and 30th, respectively. Taylor's 8 5/8-inch hands are also quite small for a ball carrier. He has the measurables of an undrafted free agent.
Realistic Landing Spots: Packers, Chargers, Bucs in the seventh round.
5. Texas A&M DE Damontre Moore -- If Moore had any designs on going in the top-15 picks, his Combine might prove disastrous. Despite weighing in at a relatively undersized 6-foot-4 1/2, 250, Moore ranked 22nd-of-37 defensive linemen in the forty-yard dash, outrunning only DLs who weigh at least 30 pounds more than him. Moore's 1.69 ten-yard split came in 17th. Moore was better in the vertical (35 1/2") and broad jumps (10-foot-2), but his mere 12 bench-press reps hint at suspect work ethic. Moore is shaping up as a late first-round prospect. He lacks athleticism required to play in a 3-4, and 4-3 teams will want him to add weight, slowing him down even more.
Realistic Landing Spots: Falcons at No. 30, Jaguars at No. 33, Lions at No. 36.
6. Texas A&M OT Luke Joeckel -- You'll see more and more mock drafts sending Central Michigan's Eric Fisher to Kansas City at the No. 1 pick. It's not because Joeckel was terrible at the Combine, but his measurable athleticism didn't stand out. At 6-foot-6, 306, Joeckel ranked 30th-of-48 offensive linemen in the forty, 32nd in the ten-yard split (1.81), 15th in broad jump (8-foot-10), and 12th in 20-yard shuttle time (4.68). NFL teams will have to recheck Joeckel's tape to make sure he's a good enough athlete to protect the blindside. He's still a likely top-five pick.
Realistic Landing Spots: Chiefs at No. 1, Eagles at No. 4, Lions at No. 5.
7. Wisconsin RB Montee Ball -- Ball's measurables aren't overwhelmingly bad, but they're not indicative of a top-50 pick, either. Ball's 4.66 ranked 19th-of-33 running back competitors in the forty-yard dash, and 15 bench reps put Ball in a three-way tie for dead last at his position. Ball cleared just 32 inches in the vertical; 20 running backs jumped higher. He came in 17th in the long jump (9-foot-10), 16th in the short shuttle (4.40), and seventh in the three-cone drill. Ball is a reliable, steady ball carrier, but he lacks special qualities. He's entrenched as a day-two prospect.
Realistic Landing Spots: Falcons at No. 60, Jaguars at No. 64, Jets at No. 72.
8. Notre Dame LB Manti Te'o -- Te'o (6-foot-1, 241) measured in nearly a full inch and 14 pounds shy of his college listing, but the lighter weight didn't help his workouts. His 4.82 forty time ranked 20th-of-26 linebackers, and Te'o tied for a middling eighth-of-20 in the vertical (33"). Te'o did finish sixth in the 20-yard shuttle (4.27) and fifth in the three-cone drill (7.13), and in fairness to Te'o, Rams MLB James Laurinatis' 2009 Combine was eerily similar. (And he's turned out pretty good.) At 6-foot-1 and change and 244 pounds, Laurinaitis ran an identical 4.82 with a 4.24 short shuttle. Considered a lock first-rounder that season, Laurinaitis "slipped" to the 35th overall pick.
Realistic Landing Spots: Broncos at No. 28, Falcons at No. 30, Ravens at No. 32.
9. Florida State DE Bjoern Werner -- Werner is another prospect who didn't quite bomb in Indy, but didn't help himself, either. And there was already growing buzz that Werner has been overrated in pre-Combine media mocks. Measuring in at 6-foot-3 1/4, 266, Werner ranked 13th among defensive linemen in the forty (4.83), 15th in the ten-yard split (1.66), 22nd in the vertical (31"), and 17th in the three-cone drill (7.30). Perhaps most startlingly, Werner's 9-foot-3 broad jump -- an indicator of lower-body explosion -- tied for 21st in his position group. Werner remains unlikely to get past the early to mid teens, but he isn't the top-five pick he was billed to be. Clubs that run 3-4 defenses are unlikely to give Werner high first-round grades as a rush linebacker.
Realistic Landing Spots: Dolphins at No. 12, Bucs at No. 13, Cowboys at No. 18.
10. Mississippi State CB Johnthan Banks -- Banks was widely regarded as a top-three draft-eligible cornerback entering the Combine. His stock is going to take a hit. Built slightly at 6-foot-2 and 185 pounds, Banks clocked a 4.61 to rank a lowly 41st among 54 defensive backs who ran, including the safeties. 49 DBs performed the 225-pound bench press, and Banks' ten reps ranked him 45th. Banks continued to display underwhelming athleticism with a 34-inch vertical, which came in 40th. In the three-cone drill, Banks' 6.97 time ranked 26th-of-38 participants. Banks' odds of landing in the first round now seem remote, though his tape should keep him in the top 50.
Realistic Landing Spots: Dolphins at No. 42, Bucs at No. 43, Panthers at No. 44.
I'm probably the only person around here that thinks Geno is gonna be good
Thanks for posting but I would argue whoever projected the landing spots for those 1st 3 is on crack.
shit if he got to 15(miracle) Id love the Saints to take himAgree. I think Jarvis Jones is in play for Cleveland at #6.