1/6 hockey discussion

Detroit is 7-3 in yheir last 10 on the road and 3 and 2 in their last 5 roadies. However they are 3-6 on b2bs this year. Little emotion with the jersey retirement and the ot win could bleed over to tonight.

Gibson started last night, so talbot is projected today. He is 2 -3 in his last 5 starts of which 3 went to ot (2-1 in those ot games both wins coming on home ice). He has averaged 3 goals a game over that span with an .898 save percent.

Boston is 5-5 in their last 10, but have won 5 of their last 6. Bos is 6-4 their last 10 at home and 3-2 over their l5 winning 3 straight on this current home stand.

Swayman has been confirmed as starter for the bruins in this tilt. He too is also 3-2 in his last 5 allowing just under 3. If you throw out the 6 goal dud at seattle ( the last game of thwir recent road trip he has given up only 2 per. With the seaytle game included he sports a .910 sav% and without it a .941 sav%.

I like the bruins recent home steak, and getting gekkie back in the lineup with a goalie who i think has an edge over talbot. It will not be easy, teams after playimg carolina are 4-6. One of those winners was detroit who beat toronto 3-2 @home after losing to carolina the nigbt before 5-2.
 
Im hopeful i dont regret adding this. But the line has moved back up feom the mid 120s and that was one of the disciplined moves i tried to make.

Tried.

Toronto +140
 
Woof. 2-5 on the night. It was bound to happen, but a few of the things i expected to happen didnt, mostly related to the totals. Anaheim was bound to not go over at some point.

Already have one in for tonight. Prob be it unless i dig into a few of the others.

Vegas -110
 
0 and 3 on the totals and 2 and 1 on the sides. Kinda telling.

Part of me wants to get involved with seattle tonight. I know devils just put 5 up on a solid minnesota team, but recently they have found more ways to have challenges scoring than opportunities. Carolina is on deck after a couple days off. Not saying there is any look ahead but just a point to consider.

Id be willing to back the kraken and likely dacord against the up and down markstrom, as hes been more unreliable than reliable noting he tended net against the wild where they won 5-2.

Seattle is off the 4-2 win at rags. Generally more of a low scoring team. Nearly identical home/road records. Seattle is 9-3 in their last 12 with the 3 losses being 1 goal losses (1 regulation, 1 ot, 1 so).

I also liked over with rangers but there is the pickup goalie for the sens, a 6.5 total, and the challenges the rangers are facing. Ottawa did play last night. Ill pass.

An over with buffalo would also be my inly consideration. But im gunshy after going ofer on totals yesterday.
 
Going to go ahead and add the kraken. When i revisited what i wrote earlier i couldnt find enough reasons to stay away.
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Seattle +130
Vegas -110
 
Sens vs Rags. Two dysfunctional teams. No clue here. Like Buff to rebound off the Fla loss but hate the price.
 
Just ended up playing 2 totals. Overs in Buff and LAK. Kind of shocked to see 5.5 in LA and I read some things about them trying to get their offense going so could lead to scoring chances both ways.
 
The key for la is kopitar. They have seemed to have a harder time getting things going without him. They should still be good for a couple. I think vegas comes out red hot and know they need to get some goals to take some pressure of schmid.

As i write this the sens have put up 6 on yhier own. Not going to comment on thw buff game aince you have a bet on it. Im superstitious that way.

The NY post is going to have some ripe commentary on the boys in blue tomorrow, for sure.
 
Not a good look at home for the Rangers. Then again, it has been pretty ugly all season. Vegas 4 LAK 2 sounds right to me!
 
Added another loser, however, it went to ot in what i felt would be a close game. Managed to watch the ot period. Kraken were very sloppy in the neutral zone and had some challenges getting the puck into the devils scoring zone. They did have a couple really solid chances, but hughes seemed to be skating with a purpose.

Of course i like san jose today, especially off the rest.

Like isles too, and jarry may get the start for edmonton. I think the oilers severly lost in that goalie swap with the pens.

Bluejackets look like the side to consider, but the price is pretty steep. Maybe regulation win.

Over 5.5 in pitt looks enticing.

Wild look yo be discoumted a bit, likely due to their recent losses. A werk ago i think they woulda been a -200 fav at home. I believe i saw where jets have a bunch of injuries. They have won 3 in a row, but those were at home. Have to dig into that a bit more.
 
Seattle in a tough spot tonight. Last leg of east coast trip and off b2b vs a good home team who is rested.
 
@C-MAN @slim5150

Hello guys! Question.

Do you do any hockey props? I was looking into trying something different, like goalie saves Over/Under

Or any other props you do in hockey, and how you go about it.

Thanks!
 
@Vapster unfortumatly no, i have not. I could see where there could be some good opportunities if one could determine an expected effort over/under a certain recent form. I would think startimg with averages, recency review in the relatiinship to those averages, as well as seeing how their expected shots for or against are terending would be a good start.

What would be a reliable statistic to determine tje correlates expectancy to ascertain over or undervalued situations. Trends off a back to back...how many starts in a row, high shot output, higher than average recent same percentages against lower output teams.

All the things.
 
Locking in two already as they have began to creep down

Sj +156
Isles +144

Currently available at bol at +150 and +140, respectively.

Cman, dont disagree on devils. They have been a challenge for me to get a great read on. They were finding good open looks against a good defensive team.

Boston falls into the columbus category for me. I made them a bit higher than the current line, but at that price, its a little steep. Could consider a regulation win, but as noted with the kraken yesterday, they have been playing alot of close games so the possibility for extra time give me pause.

Could link them up with columbus ina ml parlay for a nice price. Decisions to be made
 
Vapster said:
@C-MAN @slim5150

Hello guys! Question.

Do you do any hockey props? I was looking into trying something different, like goalie saves Over/Under

Or any other props you do in hockey, and how you go about it.

Thanks!
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Hey Vap. I have not gotten into any hockey props but could see there being great opportunities there if you have the time and outlet. Unfortunately, for me, I still use a local for most of my betting. He does have an online presence, but it is rudimentary (if I’m being nice!). I do not get anywhere near the selection of props offered at other sites for football and other sports, and none for hockey. Probably stupid on my part but I’m loyal to a fault as he has been my primary outlet for over 30 years.
 
Finalizing the card for tonight.

Top 2 have already been played.

Sj +156
Isles +144
Mon -119
Bos reg win -105
Utah -110
Chi -115
Winn/minn ov 5.5 -113
Tor +125
 
Thanks for the thoughts/info guys. Just something I started looking into. Average shots a game, how well a teams D has been playing, do THEY give up a lot of shots? Etc.

I USED to have a system for NHL, but that was for the days of games ending in ties.

In other news, If Quick keeps having to play behind the net, Rangers will be a fade for me.

If you don't get in early on the Sharks dog lines, they fall constantly during the day before puck drop.

GL Today!
 
Locking in one now for tomorrow.

Anaheim/ kings un 6.5 -125

Already see some sixes popping up so went ahead and played this. While these 2 teams have gone over this total in both their previous matchups this year, the teams were playing with much better form during those matchups.

This play was mainly predicated on injury situations. Both teams look to be offensively depleated.

The kings are reported to be missing forwards armia, perry, kopitar and moore who have combined for 73 points on the season. Kopitar and moore have been out for an extended period.

The ducks offensive injury list consists of terry, gauthier, carlsson, and moore who have combined for about 140 points on the season. Moore has been out for an extended period of time.

A few of these guys are listed as day to day, which means they could show up in the game tomorrow. Ill take a chance on this elevated total based on what the injury situation look like tonight.

Over the last 5 games the ducks have averaged just under 3 goals a game while allowing 4.6. The goals against does seem elevated but those opponents were dallas, buffalo, carolina, philly, and washington all of whom generally have higher offensive production. The ducks were 1-4 in these contests

The kings have scored just a touch over 2 goals a game over their last 5 while allowing about 3.5. This production was accomplished against vegas dallas winnipeg edmonton and san jose. They went 1-4 over that span.

Both teams have struggled to score but have given up pretty sizeable amounts of goals. Given the missing offensive production for each an under wager looks promising.
 
slim5150 said:
Locking in one now for tomorrow.

Anaheim/ kings un 6.5 -125

Already see some sixes popping up so went ahead and played this. While these 2 teams have gone over this total in both their previous matchups this year, the teams were playing with much better form during those matchups.

This play was mainly predicated on injury situations. Both teams look to be offensively depleated.

The kings are reported to be missing forwards armia, perry, kopitar and moore who have combined for 73 points on the season. Kopitar and moore have been out for an extended period.

The ducks offensive injury list consists of terry, gauthier, carlsson, and moore who have combined for about 140 points on the season. Moore has been out for an extended period of time.

A few of these guys are listed as day to day, which means they could show up in the game tomorrow. Ill take a chance on this elevated total based on what the injury situation look like tonight.

Over the last 5 games the ducks have averaged just under 3 goals a game while allowing 4.6. The goals against does seem elevated but those opponents were dallas, buffalo, carolina, philly, and washington all of whom generally have higher offensive production. The ducks were 1-4 in these contests

The kings have scored just a touch over 2 goals a game over their last 5 while allowing about 3.5. This production was accomplished against vegas dallas winnipeg edmonton and san jose. They went 1-4 over that span.

Both teams have struggled to score but have given up pretty sizeable amounts of goals. Given the missing offensive production for each an under wager looks promising.
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Like the look ahead @slim5150
 
5-3 +2.66 on the night. Toronto collapse stunk, but vegas is no slouch. Really like the way both of these teams are playing as long as they are healthy.

Probably have some more action. Avs will be involved somehow. Maybe a cross sport parlay with pro or college hoops.

Tampa playing stupid good right now. Looking at the 11 game win streak, they have won 8 by 2 or more goals, 1 ot winner, and 2 shootout victories. Dallas is on deck for them. Havent run my numbers yet but i would imagine they will show up as a discounted road fav by openers and be rapidly bet up. Could see a bit of value on the other side. Both teams have some injury concerns. No reason to rush here.

Panthers/carolina feels over to me. But with a 6.5 total doubt i get involved. I expect a pretty good game here. Carolina seems inflated at first glance.

Sharks on a back to back. My finger hovered over that bet to lock it in, but want to dig into their back to back records and look at injuries. Might just play it over, which is almost always a consideration when san jose is involved. Detroit has ottawa on deck sunday. I dont think lookahead spots are nearly as important as in college hoops, but these guys hate each other. Look at injury report and decide later. Sharks are +180 at of this writing.
 
Really like under in TB/StL tonight. Both teams played strong, defensive games last time out. Don’t expect either team to try to push the pace.

Sharks price ridiculous, even on b2b.

Fla owns Car. Both teams rested. Fla on the outside looking in, but could get healthy here shortly. Fla or nothing for me.
 
Anaheim/lak u6.5 -125 previously played
Adding:
Avs PL/kansas (mcbb) +146
Fla +160
Sj ov6 -124

I See little downside to backing the avs on the PL here. The straight ml parlayed with avs ml was attractive, but i wanted a decent payout for the risk.

Florida, tailing Cman. Carolina was a touch overvalued, based on my numbers. Not often ill get as good of a team at this price. Should be a great one to watch.

Couldnt stay away from what is seeminly becoming a team i am rooting for whilst also betting on them a bunch. Considered the sharks, but i took them on the tail end of their last back to back and lost. Think this is the safer way to go. Found a juicy 6 instead of an even money 6.5.
 
Well, F the Panthers. Must have been hung over from the trip to the White House.

How about the Preds? They are not intimidated by Colorado (2-2 vs them this season and 5-5 L10) and would be a tough first round match up for the Avs if that’s the way it ends up.
 
Yeah...hard to believe that fla game was 1-1 early in the 2nd period. Marchand didnt play. Not that he woulda helped

Yeah, totally read that game wrong in colorado. I got kansas right, so there is that.

1-2-1 -1 unit on the day. Lucky to get that en push in detroit. Sharks played ok. Detroit turned up the defensive effort in the 3rd. Nailed ducks total. Glad the ducks got off the losing skid. Still ha e a couple offensive weapons on the shelf

Quick cap and a big card make for dangerous times. We shall see what happens.

Buff -114 considered over but minn has some offsensive injuries.

Phi ov 6 -124 39 year old quick playing 6th straight with all 5 losers. Rags a mess, but they have to get lots shots to right ship. Phi embarrassed in pit, should come out hot. Kolosov slated for net. Not a good record for me on these slightly used backups. Could see more shots than hes used to.

Isles -102 would rather have sorokin than rittich. Ill take a coinflip line with the better team vs one coming back home 1st time off a ling road trip who has shown some challenges scoring lately.

Mon +108. Ill take the capable habs at this dog price over leevi everyday. Montreal much tougher recent sledding than the sens, who just destroyed rangers in the garden. They probably had a big wife swap in the big apple to celebrate.detroit on deck for ottawa, perhaps their focus is there.

Cbus +113 i still very much look to fade silvos when possible. Scrappy bluejackets coming in winners of 3 straigbt, although this is a big step up in class over vancouver and flames. In jet i trust.

Tor 0v 5.5 -124 ill take my chances with 2 super hot teams. Wanted to play toronto, but losing nylander held me back.

Bos -111 i made this closer to -150. Cant find fault with how bruins are playing. Ive tried to back these havka a few times lately, unsuccessfully. Cant win them, go contrarian. Couple offsenvive players out or limited for chicago helps.

Nash/lv ov 5.5 -136 fav play on the board by a wide margin. Downside is the big upset of avs yesterday. Im big on how vegas is playimg. Expect nash yo still give good effort. Would prefer anyone but schmid for knigts, but am fine if he gets the call.

Devils +110
 
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Devils were close to making cut based on the spot. But markstrom is "likely" to get the call. It could still make it. Ill see how my 3 early ones shake out
 
I considered Buff too. And I like your thoughts in Vegas and Phil…may join. Think Tor may come out flat after blowing that Vegas game and Jets are poised for a little run here. Tor has owned the series lately, so who knows? I don’t like Silvos either but like the Chinakhov revenge angle and although Cbj got a boost from the coaching change they also had the benefit of a couple lesser opponents. Per Bowness “It's a defense-first approach the rest of the way.”. Well that sort of plays into the style when Pens are at their best. Totally understand the Bos play too.
 
Shoulda stuck with my initial over read in buffalo. Oh well. Had the sabres not gotten penalized with 3 seconda left in regulation to give the wild the man advantage at the beginning of ot...it coulda been different.

Dont disagree about pens but felt the spot was good enough after they shellacked the phillies. If pens had thrown in skinner, doubtful i make the play. Probably would have looked under
 
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Yeah, more often than not when I like a side and total in the same game I end up playing the wrong one. Thats part of the reason I’m not playing the Calgary game tonight.
 
6-3 +3.05 units or so. After a 1-2 start scored 5 late night victories and the jersey loser. My dislike for markstrom grows, but he wasnt the only culprit.

3 games 3 plays.

detroit -128. Been eyeing this spot for a moment. Ottawa is like 12-2-1 the last 15 games or some odd stat like that. Trends are made to be broken. Ottawa off the b2b vs a rested detroit. Detroit rested and playing well. No significant injuries to hinder the wings.

Dallas +101. Can dallas get back to their winning ways at home after the crummy road trip? Was the shootout loss to the blues the peak of their streak? Should be a fantastic game. Considered a 2 leg parlay of dal +1.5 and under 6.5 goals, but the total could go either way at 5.5. Still think under moreso then over. Last meeting for these two where the lightening were victorious in southwest florida 2-1.

Stl +158. I think the blues have played better recent competion and while not always victorious, have been competitive. Edmonton has played the bad teams well and the good teams poorly. Just looking at recency. Price is a bit elevated, in my opinion, so ill take a stab on the dog.
 
Nice day yesterday. You were correct…Silovs sucks and so do the Pens in SOs! I like all the same sides today.
 
I mean, im not going to blindly fade silvos, as much as i want to. Skinner is a definite upgrade over jarry for the pens.

Tough 4 game roadie coming up for pens. Although, other than opening match against seattle, they have a fighting chance in the others. The highlight is the game on the 22nd. Should be jarry vs skinner off the b2b in calgary the nigbt before. I would expect skinner in vs seattle and silvos to get the call in calgary before the edmonton game. Might be backing flames there. Initial feeling anyway. See what books throw out. Pens missing karlsson something bad.

Hope to see hofer in net as opposed to binnington for the blues. Hofer has been in the last 2. Ingram has looked pretty good lately, but im compensated in price.

Ottawa starting a callup in detroit. Gibson getting the call. Know nothing about reimer. Dont care. Win or lose only one side to back here.

Leta hope its a good thing we like same sides today. Had i had a losing day yesterday i doubt i woulda added dallas.
 
Play for tomorrow.

Sharks +162. Locking in now as i figure the price will drop. It was on my list of leans anyway. If it goes up, oh well. If it drops, i have options.
 
Im wondering what the impact will be on scoring as we come to the olympic break. With teams playing so many b2b and tight schedules, i imagine fatigue would set in. But will it have more of an impact on offense or defense.
 
1-2 on the day dropping a unit. Dallas was outworked. Binnington got tje start for st. Lois. Yep.

Monday
Sharks +162
Pitt un 6.5 -132
Tor -113
Vegas ov 6 -108
Winnipeg -128
Calgary +113
 
On SJ, Wpg and the Pitt under with you. Thought about playing Cal but think this is a watch and learn for me. NJ looked pretty solid winning b2b games and then Car came to town. I can give them a pass for Car but this is pretty much a make or break road trip for them. Cal is playing well and they get to play 5 straight games at home, which gives them a chance to jump into a playoff spot. Just not sure how they’re going to react to the trades and trade rumors.
 
Of course pitts defensive first and aeattles general lack of scoring goes out the window as they combine for 3 in the first. Lord.

Yeah...calgary and nj are a couple of those teams ivr had the hardest time figuring out. Well...i like overs with markstrom in net, generally. This may have been a bit of a spite play after that lousy effort vs the canes. I do that sometimes. But i did like the spot for calgary, the price, i i think markstrom will go.
 
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