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World Series: Yankees vs. Dodgers Discussion Thread
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wiseplayer
Pretty much a regular
Doyers -140 to win series. I thought it would have been higher. Yankees are a very flawed team.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Shocked this total wasnt 9! Flaherty stuff has been diminishing every start and he a putz! Yanks will score some runs off him and he won’t go longer that 2x thru order, no way they let him pitch to Soto and judge a 3rd time. Bright side for dodgers and big problematic they do have some filth out the pen. I don’t think Cole what he once was and again I can’t see him going deep into the game vs this lineup, even if he has a solid start which I’d consider 5+ and 2 runs, then the problems come for yanks. They really think Luke weaver is gonna close this lineup out? I don’t fucjing think so, once they get into the pens lad has a bit edge imo. Yanks have the starting pitcher edge but it more cause flaherty dips in velo and stuff than actually think Cole can dominate this lineup.
I’m all bout the over 8.5 for game 1!!
I’m all bout the over 8.5 for game 1!!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Bro, you being incredibly biased here. Yanks/dodhers will draw mammoth numbers. There will be way more the casual fans watching this series than the typical WS that are incredibly regional. Hell even tho I hate both teams there no way I won’t tune in to watch some Soto, judge, Ohtani, Betts at bats. This be highest drawing WS in 15+ years
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Total agree, 8.5 feels like a joke for game 1. I mighg look more at yanks to score in early innings (ffs) while expect dodgers to work yanks pen. Gotta lean dodgers based off one simple player fact, I don’t believe for a minute Lyke Weaver can close out this dodgers lineup, in no world would that be believable to me! Yanks gonna have real problems in the later innings. Of course Yamamoto the only lad starter I trust so yanks should have plenty of chances to score early. Def an over series. Might not only bet overs but get down on some player hitting props.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
And while I do hate these teams I do find it a bit refreshing to finally have a WS with the best 2 teams who earned it all
Year, that has become rare since the goffy new playoff format. In fact I think this the 1st time nl isn’t sending a WC team. So yes I despise both these huge money franchises and usually take pleasure in them losing I do have some interest that we actually got the best teams with so much star power! There no way this doesn’t draw biggest rating in long time for a WS.
Year, that has become rare since the goffy new playoff format. In fact I think this the 1st time nl isn’t sending a WC team. So yes I despise both these huge money franchises and usually take pleasure in them losing I do have some interest that we actually got the best teams with so much star power! There no way this doesn’t draw biggest rating in long time for a WS.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Wonder why lad going Flaherty instead of Yamamoto for game 1? Makes over easier but makes it tougher to bet dodgers. Flaherty stuff has been really diminished m, dunno if it arm fatigue or what but there no question his stuff has gotten increasingly worse throughout last month.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Yes but dodgers lineup deeper with other guys I trust more. Muncy, edman, Kiki, guys who have been here and come thru in big spots often make the difference. But as I said above there no way im betting Luke weaver can close out this dodgers lineup! I think we talking 4-2 dodgers.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
IMO judge the least trustworthy of the “big 4” I think Soto be great but by game 4 they might be pitching around him to face judge, I have no doubt Ohtani is gonna have a bit series, bets will play big, and just think dodgers lineup Nick deeper with guys I trust in big moments.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Haha it will be the most watched WS in history for a multitude of reasons and it won't be close
2daBank
Voice of Reason
It’s -160 but I don’t think there any chance yanks don’t score at least 2 off Flaherty in the 1st 5! I wouldn’t trust Jack if he was on his game, but he is not, his velo and pitch quality has been dipping bad lately. Yanks will get him for 2+ way more often than -160 suggest!
horses
Brady licks Marino's knob
Yamamoto HAS to go in G2 to ensure all 3 starters get their typical rest; Yamamoto requires 5 days of rest between starts so whether he goes in G1 or G2, he still would not be able to go again until G6. Putting Flaherty (or Buehler) in G2 would require that he come back in G5 on 3 days rest which obv is not optimal...or Yamamoto on 4 days of rest which also is not optimal. Game 4 should be the bullpen game, regardless.
Good point.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Makes sense. I didn’t realize any rest issues with the layoff. I don’t trust Flaherty when he at his best! Right now he is far from his best, he hasn’t pitched this many innings in 5 years and last time he did that he faded at end. His velo and pitch quality is bad right now. Love yanks to score over 1.5 Ff even at -160. But I don’t think yanks pen is gonna get lad out. If Luke weaver actually closes out 2 games vs lad id be shocked!! Yanks Ff tt ov 1.5 -160 for me, but what crazy is they still have lad as slight favs for ff and their total at 2.5, I havnt watched Cole as closely in these playoffs but im assuming this isn’t the same Cole of few years back. All im pretty confident in is runs runs runs. Tonight maybe yanks earlier runs but I expect lad will get Cole out and get to the yanks pen I don’t trust at all. Lad starting pitching a mess but they have filth in the pen and that lineup so deep, it not like yanks are rolling out a bunch of all start starters and when they leave when the problems really start imo. Tonight it be the yanks Ff tt ov 1.5, lad tt ov 4.5, and game over 8.5.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Nice of them to reward the middling and lessor guys!
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
If G4 is going to be a BP game it sets up perfectly, other than that there's nothing notable anyway. I can't see all of these being high scoring, lots of swing and miss out there already
wiseplayer
Pretty much a regular
Epic series. Everyone will be tuned into this.
horses
Brady licks Marino's knob
Dodger WS roster includes RP's Vesia, Graterol and SS Rojas, none of whom were available during the LCS. Vesia is only their 2nd LH pitcher on the entire roster and is a huge add. They lose RP Phillips to an arm injury which is a huge loss...Graterol has the stuff to take Phillips spot but Phillips was pitching lights out and Graterol has only pitched in 7 games all year due to a shoulder injury...doubt he is as effective as Phillips. Rojas is a nice add in place of Kiermaier but i doubt he starts with Enman and E. Hernandez both playing so well. Pages is the wild card as he hit very well in the LCS and plays a solid CF....he could get playing time from E. Hernandez in center.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
The way I see it if the lad nottom
The order can get on base for Ohtani Dodgers winning this series. And again I’ll have to see it to believe it fucking Luke weaver closing out this dodgers lineup! Lot of late scoring by dodgers this series imo.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Gm 1 plays
Yanks Ff tt ov 1.5 -154.. if a flaherty with diminished stuff can hold yanks to less than 2 runs in 5 innings I’ll tip my cap!!
Ov 9 +102.. I ev expect yanks get several off Flaherty. I don’t think Cole will be clean and don’t think he can make it 6 innings. Let’s call it 3-3 after 5 and dodgers win the late innings.
Lad ml/ ov 9, Ohtani 2-+ bases
Yanks Ff tt ov 1.5 -154.. if a flaherty with diminished stuff can hold yanks to less than 2 runs in 5 innings I’ll tip my cap!!
Ov 9 +102.. I ev expect yanks get several off Flaherty. I don’t think Cole will be clean and don’t think he can make it 6 innings. Let’s call it 3-3 after 5 and dodgers win the late innings.
Lad ml/ ov 9, Ohtani 2-+ bases
horses
Brady licks Marino's knob
I only really follow the Pads and Dodgers closely thru the year and then cram on their opponents in the playoffs. The opines on the Yankee BP have been all over the place including your take. I know the Yankee SP's well enough as well as most of their positional players but the BP seems like a wildcard. Being a Doyer fan I certainly hope that you are correct.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Played out to perfection tonight!!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Nice be going out the way I played most this year, woulda really annoyed me had I had a very good season then slipped up some giving a bit back playing to deep into sept then not really being all that good these playoffs. Only fitting to go out on top on this WS!! Still have some more bets to win before it over and yes I intend on making money every game of this series!!
Ya’ll wouldn’t believe the damn sgp lotto ticket I played, sorry I didn’t post it but busy with football all day, didn’t matter as it was heartbreaking!!
I obviously had lad ml, then against the lefty I went with Betts 2+ bases and a run scored, teoscar 3+ bases and a rbi, Stanton 1 + base and a rbi just cause he been on fire and we all know what a putz judge is in playoffs so figured Stanton get a chance after a judge strike out! lol. Anyways all that and the last 1? Fucking Yamamoto 5+ k’s!! Only 25 bucks but it paid pretty huge!! Man I thought for sure when they let him come out to face Stanton in 6th (which I was really not sure they would!) I had this mfer! Got him in a 1-2 hole and throws one over the fucking plate for a fly out!! Of course at that point the jerkoff analytics /manager couldn’t bear to actually let a guy that had only given up 1 hit all night and was only in low 80s pitch count to let him finish the fucking inning!! Years ago I’d have went ape shit over that, these days I was actually thrilled I got the chance to get 5 against Stanton! I know the game has changed and even more so with Yamamoto who hasn’t pitched much or doubt this deep in any game but damn, he was not throwing high stress pitches! He was absolutely punking the yanks lineup, at the very least they coulda let him go at least until someone reached base!!! I know the pen set up really well to handle yanks lineup if they just get 5 innings from starter, but man! I also know there 2 more games to win why not limit yanks exposure to your pen guys as much as possible? Seems like a very reasonable thing to me!! Had nice lead and dude was pitching as well as possible!! Maybe he doesn’t even get the k but sure would have been nice to be given the chance!? We saw what happened at the end, you let Yamamoto finish the 7th unlikely you win Into that problem and once again it less bats yanks get to see those guys! Analytics be damned a smart baseball person knows you let Yamamoto finish the 7th long as no issues! Hell if he was still under 90 pitches I bring him out for the 8th which in no way am I saying cause my bet, I felt it was a tactical error regardless! As so often im back here reprimanding myself for being little to greedy but god damn I love hitting those sgp where 25 bucks pays around 1k!! That my sad story for night, unless you wanna talk bout Brian Kelly being punked by a qb change that cost me several parlays worth more than just this!! lol
Last little rant, has anyone noticed the network has decided to stop showing the box and where ball hits to let us all know how terrible these umps are? Great fix mlb, instead of solving the easiest problem you have you simply tell the networks not to show the box so pp see how awful the ump behind plate is?? I hate to sound like sour grapes but if you don’t think Yamamoto zone was being squeezed something redic you lying to yourself!! These 1st 2 games the umps calling balls and stokes have been horrendous but less lol notice since the network was told to take the box away I assume! Hard to say if there was any agenda in gm1 but it was painfully and annoyingly obvious they were totally squeezing Yamamoto zone, I assume in a attempt to make this a longer series but it just ain’t gonna happen boys so stop with the tom foolery!! Its just another bad look for your ever diminishing profuct imo!!
Ok all that aside can you believe they have set a 8 total for game 3 in the band box?!!? wtf are they thinking there? I guess we need to make sure Ohtani is ok but 8? With these lineups, these pitchers, I only watched some of gm 2 but you could tell the marine layer knocked some balls down particularly in game 1, balls im sure get over the wall at that little league park?! Without any capping im sure I don’t understand the drop in total with worse pitchers and a hitters paradise?!?!?!? We have few days to worry bout but money will be made!!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
not only is total odd quite the price they paying on yanks game 3, I suppose cause it a “must win”, I have a secret to tell ya, yanks not winning this series so there are no “must wins”!! Is almost be willing to say lad sweeps if doyers manager had any balls and let Yamamoto pitch at least the 7th! I do believe this clown Roberts cost lad a win by over exposing guys he had no need to do tonight! This still isn’t gonna be much of a series even it all said and done yanks will be lucky to win 2 games, makes that plus money very tempting for game 3!!
Brewers888
Presumptive 2028 Vice Presidential Nominee
Judge is the Greg Maddux of hitters. Unbelievable regular season player who can't handle the spotlight. Just as Braves fans would rather see John Smoltz pitching the big game Yankees fans would rather see Stanton in a big spot than Judge.
Same thoughts. Couldnt believe price on gm 3
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I’ll talk way more bout 2marro even tho I’ll prob lose some price, I assume it be chilly but not sure how cold? Either way I don’t think cold knocks the ball down like that marine layer can at Chavez. Not to mention just the fact most those balls going to track at La going over wall in NY in most spots! Far as price without looking into it at all feels crazy, if you telling me dodgers getting plus money in all these games in ny that gonna make my life pretty damn easy! Lol. Anyways I’m behind stupid nfl, I’ll come back to this maybe tonight.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
So Clarke Schmidt has started 2 playoff games this year against the light hitting royals and cle, both games he went 4.2 and gave up 2 runs, ruh roh! If that isn’t bad enough news his cutter:sinker mix doesn’t match up real well with this lad lineup. In like a best case scenario world where Clarke has the game of his life I feel like 5 innings couple runs be a huge win, problem is would thar be enough? I don’t think so, that still leaves way to much of yanks pen and I’m not very convinced he gonna go 5 innings and only allow 2 runs against these guys anyways! If he makes it thru lineup 2x without big damage I’d be pretty surprised! In short imo there no fucking way they holding dodgers to less than 4 runs!
1st bet) lad team total ov 3.5 -135
2nd bet) lad tt ov 5.5 +210
We were correct that total opening at 8 was redic and it now hitting 9 at some spots (hopefully some grabbed the early over!) I still think it short as 9.5 where I’m at. It a little tough cause guessing what we will get from Ferris Buehler isn’t easy! Based off his last start I tend to think he gonna be pretty good, he might even dominate which would be how I could see everyone slamming this over getting burnt now that it up to 9! . I feel better sticking with lad team total along with the small early take on the over 8 I played the other day. Not only is judge not big time I think dodgers have a very good book on him, could he poke one over the oppo short porch? Sure, helll I could get lucky and do that! Is it likely? No. So they gotta deal w Soto but if there 2 outs he getting nothing to hit! Then Stanton can be a problem cause he showing up big, the problem is you can pretty much pitch around him also, how often are the other yanks gonna come thru? Only 3 guys worry me and nobody after the 4 hole! Amd dodgers have the arms out of pen to handle those problem spots! I don’t know how the fuck yanks are favored and it even more confusing to me ppl seem to be betting them, well color me crazy cause you wanna give me plus money on a team with so many advantages, even if Ohtani hurt I still like the dodgers!
Play 3) lad ml +124
Play 4) lad Ff tt ov 1.5 -145., little steep but I just can’t picture a world they don’t get 2 runs in this bandbox.
Nothing bout this makes any damn sense to me, is it the yanks brand? I thought doyers were just as big? I been the biggest drum beater for lad being overpriced chokers for the last 10 years but this team just isn’t like the others, they finally get a legit championship (I refuse to count the covid bs, although in fairness they prob did get one stolen by the sign stealing stros). Anyways fact of the matter we getting a crazy good price for the not only better team but one that has almost every important thing to me going their way matchup wise. Maybe yanks hang on and pull one out but it gonna take runs to do so imo so even if lad loses I expect to at least cash the Ff ov 1.5 and game ov 3.5.. I just don’t see any other way to bet this that makes any damn sense. Of course you could also play some player props! I think I’ll be looking at Betts and muncy props. Depending on lineup a teoscar if I think he in a spot to get a lefty relief pitcher at some point. Think muncy going yard tonight and Betts will be on base all night.
1st bet) lad team total ov 3.5 -135
2nd bet) lad tt ov 5.5 +210
We were correct that total opening at 8 was redic and it now hitting 9 at some spots (hopefully some grabbed the early over!) I still think it short as 9.5 where I’m at. It a little tough cause guessing what we will get from Ferris Buehler isn’t easy! Based off his last start I tend to think he gonna be pretty good, he might even dominate which would be how I could see everyone slamming this over getting burnt now that it up to 9! . I feel better sticking with lad team total along with the small early take on the over 8 I played the other day. Not only is judge not big time I think dodgers have a very good book on him, could he poke one over the oppo short porch? Sure, helll I could get lucky and do that! Is it likely? No. So they gotta deal w Soto but if there 2 outs he getting nothing to hit! Then Stanton can be a problem cause he showing up big, the problem is you can pretty much pitch around him also, how often are the other yanks gonna come thru? Only 3 guys worry me and nobody after the 4 hole! Amd dodgers have the arms out of pen to handle those problem spots! I don’t know how the fuck yanks are favored and it even more confusing to me ppl seem to be betting them, well color me crazy cause you wanna give me plus money on a team with so many advantages, even if Ohtani hurt I still like the dodgers!
Play 3) lad ml +124
Play 4) lad Ff tt ov 1.5 -145., little steep but I just can’t picture a world they don’t get 2 runs in this bandbox.
Nothing bout this makes any damn sense to me, is it the yanks brand? I thought doyers were just as big? I been the biggest drum beater for lad being overpriced chokers for the last 10 years but this team just isn’t like the others, they finally get a legit championship (I refuse to count the covid bs, although in fairness they prob did get one stolen by the sign stealing stros). Anyways fact of the matter we getting a crazy good price for the not only better team but one that has almost every important thing to me going their way matchup wise. Maybe yanks hang on and pull one out but it gonna take runs to do so imo so even if lad loses I expect to at least cash the Ff ov 1.5 and game ov 3.5.. I just don’t see any other way to bet this that makes any damn sense. Of course you could also play some player props! I think I’ll be looking at Betts and muncy props. Depending on lineup a teoscar if I think he in a spot to get a lefty relief pitcher at some point. Think muncy going yard tonight and Betts will be on base all night.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
edman been better than most the yanks! Of course another cardinal! I think muncy mashes one tonight! Kiki due for a big hit as he been known to do. At some point lux will come thru, this a good matchup for him imo. IMO this series a total mismatch, the only edge yanks were supposed to have hasn’t even played out as lad starters have matched or been better, they facing the easier lineup to navigate. My gut says Walker Buehler even pitches well tonight!
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Not when my only wager on the series is Ohtani over Judge HRs ffs
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Pretty sure it's 0-0Oh shit. What the tally now? I remember Ohtani hit one off wall, don’t recall if he hit one out? Think maybe he up 1-0? If so you good!
I will be on unders with LAD bullpen game and Eddings tomorrow, not much for run scoring this series although I don't necessarily disagree with your LAD team totals...I just don't like runs. Only took a miracle for under not to have cruised both games in LA.
By the way the marine layer you speak of is a morning phenomenon. SD, SEA and SF are really on the water, I don't treat Dodger Stadium or whatever they call the Angels stadium the same.
I do think if there's a night for over with the pitching matchup it's tonight though
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Lot of balls died at Chavez imo, agree I got super lucky to hit game 1 over. Didn’t like game 2. I’m not feeling it with it climbing now, I like the lad team totals and I’m good w small position on over 8. Who knows wtf Buehler does? Not sure eddings matters for him, he either got it or not. Don’t think e saving Schmidt from some balls going over that short porch. His cutter, sinker combo doesn’t bode well I don’t think.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Thinking little more bout it I do think E could be good for Ferris. If he gets a few calls could be good for his confidence. Def think E more likely to make a difference for Walker. I suppose if Schmidt getting low sinkers called but how long can he locate those? Someone taking him yard! Prob a couple someone’s
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