What have we learned... (week 2 version)

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If Tulsa plays any team with a solid running game, bet the other side..

Tt overs against them will be gold..

I've learned a lot and looking forward to Learning more..
 
I was at the Stanford-USC game 5 rows from the field. Neither of these teams will make it to the PAC 12 Championship game. I have to look at UCLA more but how is it not Oregon vs UCLA?
i expect to see 3-5 losses for both USC and Stanford.
 
Let me repeat myself. There were no athletes on the field. Stanford has Montgomery but that's it. USC has WR #15 but that's it and I'm not sure if he looked good because Stanford had no answer for him. Both these team couldn't match up with Va Tech who I'm watching now.
 
wiseplayer said:
I was at the Stanford-USC game 5 rows from the field. Neither of these teams will make it to the PAC 12 Championship game. I have to look at UCLA more but how is it not Oregon vs UCLA?
i expect to see 3-5 losses for both USC and Stanford.
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While UCLA is 2-0 they sure have been underwhelming. ASU could be the team to beat in the south but they have a lot to replace on defense and have played two weak teams so far. Same with Utah, they have looked great early but haven't played anyone. I still maintain this is the best Utah team since joining the PAC and if they go to the Big House and beat UM(which I am planning on) they should make some noise in the south this year.

While the Big 10 has been called down so far, the PAC hasn't lived up to expectations either. Colorado is horrible, they were lucky to beat UMass yesterday.
 
ASU offense is really good and their defense can be had so you can almost blindly bet their overs until they start lining their games like Baylor. I think I had them under valued in my Preseason PR.

USF still has offense problems .... when you win the turnover battle 6-1 and still lose at home by a TD with the other team kneeling somewhere near your ten yard line, you have some issues. They are very improved from an effort standpoint and their DL looked decent. Their offense is just like it has been lately.

I am being punished for taking NW season wins over and rightly so. Why I would back a team more interested in ruining the sport than playing it to do well is a mystery to me. RB might have meant more to that team in the locker room than on the field. Coach has been really good at overaachieving over the years but this team is about to grossly underachieve in back to back years.


Army cannot defend the pass. Repeat... Army cannot defend the pass.

Two weeks in a row for that Fresno State defense. Offense doesn't seem crisp either. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt a little bit for a brutal early schedule but it looked like men vs boys against the Utes.

Purdue has a terrible combination of not being able to tackle on defense, thus leading to deficits, and a QB who cannot throw a forward pass. This makes it really difficult for them to come back in games.

If there is a bright side to UCLA start it is that Auburn started this way last year but escaped and then developed the talent as the season progressed
 
UCLA will be a bigger disappointment than Stanford or SC. If ASU figures out how to defend and can stop getting penalties, they are the ones in the South and I'm not saying that as a homer. UCLA is a mess.
 
Big ten is horrible once again .

Still think Oregon loses to at least 3 SEC teams

USC got lucky, but it could get them enough confidence to the PAC-12 championship...maybe

The teams that looked like shit in week 1 still look that way( Ohio st, Colorado, UCLA, Texas Tech) . Will not wager on any of them , ever
 
frank constanza is the man i respect around here for all texas football..hope he chimes in.
 
Tar Heels are completely erratic. Fedora is a spaz. Their skill positions are solid. They play like a hard throwing, wild reliever. Luckbox victory. Liberty played them hard too. Virginia and VT have the best D in conference. I wouldnt be surprised if Byerly starts in front of Thomas because of 3 tos (GT).

Give Strong a break. He is cleaning out a corrupt lazy house with no QB. MAck Brown is to blame.

James Conner is a great RB but Boyd get targeted too much.
 
gynecologist said:
How really bad is Texas?

Who here follows that team?
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their offense is pure Shite. Their defense is fairly nasty but they will tire against the right clubs if they are on the field forever. They really struggle against mobile running QB's for a few years running now. Team is depleted with injuries and suspensions. If you care for Ash, he never takes another football snap ... he doesn't sniff NFL ability so there is no reason to be the starting qb at UT other than if it is his dream or he needs the status to bang hot chicks. Team tried hard and I think the final score is largely deceiving in that game ... not that byu didn't deserve to win comfortably ( they did deserve to win comfortably ) but not by that score.

Until they get a viable offense they are unbackable laying but if they start getting points against teams they can stop they could be backable as dogs with their defense.
 
Thanks vk...

Making a mental note...

Final scores don't always tell the story... I need to dig deeper..
 
As an LSU fan I still think they're a 3 loss team, but with all of the youth in key positions we should see them continually improve throughout the year more so than in years past. If they can get solid play at DT they may be better than that. I wish there was a way to fast forward to 2015 and 2016 as those will most likely be the best teams Miles has fielded here.
 
We knew about Virginia Tech's defense, but I was very impressed with their offense. They may be a legit Top 10 team.

Mariotta is the real deal. His combination of arm strength, raw speed and decision making make him an ideal trigger man for that Oregon offense and a legit Heisman contender.

Alabama's talent at the skill positions is ridiculous, but unless they develop a legitimate SEC caliber quarterback soon, they won't win the SEC West. Between Florida, Texas A&M, LSU and Auburn, they may lose two of those games.

As I predicted preseason, South Carolina is way overrated. They lack talent at all three levels on defense. Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri may all be better teams than Sakerlina this season.
 
South Carolina looked terrible. Had it not been for turnovers ECU had a shot there. Clowney taking a double team every down made a difference I guess .. my lord.

I guess they get away from the spread passing attack this week at least.
 
Agree the SC pass coverage again just looked terrible vs. ECU. Think they have real problems on defense this year overall.
 
Boston College needs some better re cruitement... team is garbage
 
The Derek Mason hire at Vanderbilt is bordering on catastrophe right now. They may not win a game. Even with UMass, Charleston Southern and Old Dominion on the schedule
 
gynecologist said:
How really bad is Texas?

Who here follows that team?
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watson doesn't have the offensive scheme to help a player like swoopes. this zone read shit is not the answer with a player like swoopes. the OL is decimated, the QB1 is gone, the defense is the only shining light, but without any semblance of an offense, or a gameplan that can keep the O on the field, look for this defense to simply run out of gas in the 3rd and 4th quarter. BYU isn't the best team to take notes on, Hill runs that offense to perfection. UCLA game is gonna be at jerry's world, and i don't think it's gonna be that big of a home field advantage. lotta californians living in DFW now, and UCLA is recruiting the hell outta texas, so they'll be fired up.

1h unders might be the ticket with this team. i do believe this texas defense is better suited against an offense like UCLA then they are against an offense like BYU. then again, UCLA's speed to the edges is gonna be hard to contain.
 
gps_3 said:
The Derek Mason hire at Vanderbilt is bordering on catastrophe right now. They may not win a game. Even with UMass, Charleston Southern and Old Dominion on the schedule
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I'm on UMass +17 and ML.

I don't think Vandy beats ODU at this point.
 
I heard on the radio that during the vandy-ole miss game that vandy had a 4th and one or 4th and goal that they were going for and called a timeout. It was a tv TO as well, so the official in the red hat came out. Apparently the vandy coaching staff wasn't aware what that meant, because they sent the offense out to line up while the tv official was still on the field. They sat there lined up for the 4th down play for over a minute, which ole miss used to see what formation and personnel vandy was using and call the appropriate defense. Of course, vandy failed to convert. Mason makes Hugh freeze look like Vince Lombardi
 
gps_3 said:
I heard on the radio that during the vandy-ole miss game that vandy had a 4th and one or 4th and goal that they were going for and called a timeout. It was a tv TO as well, so the official in the red hat came out. Apparently the vandy coaching staff wasn't aware what that meant, because they sent the offense out to line up while the tv official was still on the field. They sat there lined up for the 4th down play for over a minute, which ole miss used to see what formation and personnel vandy was using and call the appropriate defense. Of course, vandy failed to convert. Mason makes Hugh freeze look like Vince Lombardi
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wow
 
M.O.T said:
As an LSU fan I still think they're a 3 loss team, but with all of the youth in key positions we should see them continually improve throughout the year more so than in years past. If they can get solid play at DT they may be better than that. I wish there was a way to fast forward to 2015 and 2016 as those will most likely be the best teams Miles has fielded here.
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agree anything this year is lagniappe

they have sick talent, so they can fuck with anyone.....but like you said, their time is in a couple years
 
Hawai..wtf! Probably too early to tell and we all know the traveling woes when a team had to travel to the islands, but that's 2 Pac-12 teams that was shitting their pants. Hawaii D is the obvious change and how physical and determined they are. Their run game is a full 180 from all these years and it seemed like a volcano was lit under their ass. True test is when they go on the road. They may good as dogs and maybe short favs.
 
Texas? Where to start? Strong has inherited a hot, hot mess. And the cleanup will take 2+ years.

Jaxson Shipley now looks to be out this weekend with a concussion, and he's our most experienced WR. That makes 7 projected starters on offense who will not be lined up in JerryWorld Saturday night. Got no playmakers on offense - zero, none. Daje Johnson is the only one, but he's in Strong's doghouse and still suspended. (Latest suspension / dismissal count since Strong took over? 9). Ash is done for his career at QB, soph Swoopes is there now but is really a Blake Bell starter kit and better suited to be a TE. Wanna know how bad the o-line is? We have d-lineman who was going to redshirt that had to be moved over to the o-line before BYU, just to give some depth there. As of this past weekend, our o-line now has a combined 10 collegiate starts, that's combined. But, shit, we've doubled our experience in one week. There's only 2 good / quality players on offense right now - Malcolm Brown and Jon Gray. But they have no one to block for them and no real passing game to open things up. Get the picture?

Defense is fine overall. Very good line, talented and deep, fairly decent at LB and DBs. They shut down BYU in 1H but were on the field the entire Q2 (12.5 minutes) against BYU but looked to have run out of gas in Q3. In that Q3, our offense laid the ultimate egg - back-to-back-to-back 3 and outs, didn't help matters obviously.

Strong was left with a group of entitled, coddled and spoon-fed players by a coach who checked out and sucked his thumb after the loss to Bama in the national championship team. For 4 years, Mack Brown did little but build a jumbled mess and fuckup of epic proportions, a microcosm of which is the absolute unbridled cluster we have at the QB position. (Lou Holtz's walk-on grandson is now present on our QB depth chart.) Strong is weeding out the toxins and cancers, but it's going to take time. And the interim, the growing pains are going to be just that, painful.
 
Frank Costanza said:
Texas? Where to start? Strong has inherited a hot, hot mess. And the cleanup will take 2+ years.

Jaxson Shipley now looks to be out this weekend with a concussion, and he's our most experienced WR. That makes 7 projected starters on offense who will not be lined up in JerryWorld Saturday night. Got no playmakers on offense - zero, none. Daje Johnson is the only one, but he's in Strong's doghouse and still suspended. (Latest suspension / dismissal count since Strong took over? 9). Ash is done for his career at QB, soph Swoopes is there now but is really a Blake Bell starter kit and better suited to be a TE. Wanna know how bad the o-line is? We have d-lineman who was going to redshirt that had to be moved over to the o-line before BYU, just to give some depth there. As of this past weekend, our o-line now has a combined 10 collegiate starts, that's combined. But, shit, we've doubled our experience in one week. There's only 2 good / quality players on offense right now - Malcolm Brown and Jon Gray. But they have no one to block for them and no real passing game to open things up. Get the picture?

Defense is fine overall. Very good line, talented and deep, fairly decent at LB and DBs. They shut down BYU in 1H but were on the field the entire Q2 (12.5 minutes) against BYU but looked to have run out of gas in Q3. In that Q3, our offense laid the ultimate egg - back-to-back-to-back 3 and outs, didn't help matters obviously.

Strong was left with a group of entitled, coddled and spoon-fed players by a coach who checked out and sucked his thumb after the loss to Bama in the national championship team. For 4 years, Mack Brown did little but build a jumbled mess and fuckup of epic proportions, a microcosm of which is the absolute unbridled cluster we have at the QB position. (Lou Holtz's walk-on grandson is now present on our QB depth chart.) Strong is weeding out the toxins and cancers, but it's going to take time. And the interim, the growing pains are going to be just that, painful.
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I have a feeling Kenny Vacaro will be wearing Kenny Still's dress this year somewhere on the internet
 
Johnnyonthespot said:
Tar Heels are completely erratic. Fedora is a spaz. Their skill positions are solid. They play like a hard throwing, wild reliever. Luckbox victory. Liberty played them hard too. Virginia and VT have the best D in conference. I wouldnt be surprised if Byerly starts in front of Thomas because of 3 tos (GT).

Give Strong a break. He is cleaning out a corrupt lazy house with no QB. MAck Brown is to blame.

James Conner is a great RB but Boyd get targeted too much.
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Tarheel's defense looks soft. Offense should be playing better and elimnate turnovers.
 
Any value in betting the B1G after last weekend? John Q Public has to be fading the conference, right? Any good #s or moves this week?
 
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