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Gyno
Guest
Weird draft picks. Other than Okafor.
What are they doing?
What are they doing?
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Gyno
Guest
Weirdest draft I've ever seen. What's this plan about? Stock up on 2nd rounders and get a bunch of centers?
JuniorQB13
Well-Known Member
Makes perfect sense. They draft two guys in the second round that will try to make the team and the other picks you stash or trade for future picks. They dont have the roster spot to add 6 guys this year. If they arent going to make the team it is a wasted pick unless you can stash them.
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dudleysdad
Guest
I was hoping they used their second round picks on some guards.. I don't think they have a SG on the roster.
Was hoping for Joseph young from Oregon and Hanlon from BC.don't even know if they got drafted. I went to bed after they picked a center from Spain.
Glad Russell wen to LA. Okafor will avg 18-20 ppg next season
Was hoping for Joseph young from Oregon and Hanlon from BC.don't even know if they got drafted. I went to bed after they picked a center from Spain.
Glad Russell wen to LA. Okafor will avg 18-20 ppg next season
mook
Mayor of Mayfair
What is the reasoning behind this statement? Drafting Oakafor (best available player)?
we can all pretty much agree there will maybe be 1 or 2 second rounders will amount to anything, so if they missed on those 2 so did 30 others.
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
The franchise has no intention to go into the season to even attempt to compete for a championship. That's called tanking. Not saying it's good or bad. But the team isn't thinking of this season at all
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
That's tanking in my eyes.
What other teams are GOING INTO the season with absolutely no regard/focus on this upcoming year's performance? Maybe the magic? I'm not really sure I haven't followed them much. Definitely isn't "15 teams" or anywhere close to that. I think you misunderstood what I was say saying.
What other teams are GOING INTO the season with absolutely no regard/focus on this upcoming year's performance? Maybe the magic? I'm not really sure I haven't followed them much. Definitely isn't "15 teams" or anywhere close to that. I think you misunderstood what I was say saying.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Sixers aren't building to even compete.
This "tanking" has been rightfully rewarded. With several busted picks including MCW, Nerlens, Imbid, and soon to be Okafor.
They do not have one bright spot on this roster and no one would come play here right now.
You would think over the last 5 years they could have gotten SOMETHING to be excited about. Minnesota has Wiggins, Bucks are on the up with Parker, Magic with Dipo and Vuj, Celtics on the up w/ several nice pieces.
The Sixers arguably only have Okafor who has become the unsexiest pick in the draft and the face of everything that is not the NBA today.
This "tanking" has been rightfully rewarded. With several busted picks including MCW, Nerlens, Imbid, and soon to be Okafor.
They do not have one bright spot on this roster and no one would come play here right now.
You would think over the last 5 years they could have gotten SOMETHING to be excited about. Minnesota has Wiggins, Bucks are on the up with Parker, Magic with Dipo and Vuj, Celtics on the up w/ several nice pieces.
The Sixers arguably only have Okafor who has become the unsexiest pick in the draft and the face of everything that is not the NBA today.
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
That's true, especially since there are only 30 teams in the league... : )
As for the Sixers, sort of reminds me of when Matt Millen kept drafting WR's back with the Lions. Have to believe they either flip Okafor, or they've thrown in the towel with regards to Embiid.
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dudleysdad
Guest
Ur very odd nbafan
Should philly sign 5-6 washed up vets like the nets and would that be competing??
Fondybadger
CTG Partner
Look at how the Bucks "competed" last year to get into the playoffs to be eliminated in first round and get the 17th pick. Would have rather seen them in the lottery with a better draft pick.
CASH
Pretty much a regular
fixed it
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
Whether they think they can win or not... Before the season begins.... Yes I seriously believe the goal of most if not all teams is to compete for a championship. And by teams I mean ownership, staff and players. How you can think that is not the case is something I don't understand. The sixers have been in rebuilding mode for far too long and it's sad.
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
At least they TRIED. At least the fans spent their hard earned dollars towards some hope instead of going to games and knowing there is absolutely no reason to even waste time or energy rooting for the team... Starting on day 1 of training camp. You guys are not seriously gonna play the Monday morning QB card are you?
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
You're telling me you'd rather get a higher draft pick than the playoff experience the celtics got?? No way. The playoffs are a completely different atmosphere and if a young team ever wants to be successful in the future it's better if they go through it to know what to expect next time around. Same goes for Milwaukee. Actually Milwaukee even more so.
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
I think it's probably a little more accurate to say about a third of the teams are "realistic" about their title aspirations, while the other two thirds are just hopeful to make the playoffs and get that extra gate revenue.
And why do you say the Sixers have been "in rebuilding mode for far too long and it's sad". I agree that what they're doing right now defies logic (to an extent), but they're also only a few years removed from getting tossed in the second round by the Celtics. Pretty sure most T-Wolves fans wish that were the case...
Fondybadger
CTG Partner
A 100% that I'd prefer a top few draft picks than a playoff team. Either I want my teams winning it all or being the worst place team.
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
Obviously after the fact. But unfortunately teams cannot predict the future. All they could do is have a plan and try to execute that plan to have the best opportunity to have a chance of winning it all. And I think playoff experience, especially in basketball and hockey, more so than other sports..... for teams with young stars (Bucks, celtics) is huge. Nothing replaces that. And its more likely than not that your first round draft pick will be a bust.
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
I think that in 90% of the cases, the difference between 16th and 12th pick not that big and many times, both will be rotation players on a decent team at best.
But on the other hand, building winning culture, letting players know that winning is above all and getting playoff experience, can be big for the teams.
Also, making the playoffs can help in FA market...
But on the other hand, building winning culture, letting players know that winning is above all and getting playoff experience, can be big for the teams.
Also, making the playoffs can help in FA market...
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hugh613
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"Playoff experience" is just an overused catch phrase. Talent trumps everything else, so if you're making the playoffs on a regular basis, and making a run deep into the playoffs on a regular basis, that has everything to do with the overall talent level of your team, and pretty much nothing to do with so called "experience". Plus, as far as needing a different mind set when it comes to the post season, and saying some players can handle the big moments while others can't, that's speaks to the overall mental makeup of individual players, not "playoff experience".
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
you follow this team a good bit I bet
I don't know all that much, but the 76ers were getting KILLED in the media for this draft....articles written on it
it wasn't bad to you?
How many Center jokes did you see? That Philly wanted to draft a WhiteWalker, etc..?
they got killed for this draft in the media
CASH
Pretty much a regular
Yes higher pick...... 9 of these guys wont be on the roster game 1 of next season.......the experience did nothing except put money in owners pockets.....
Gorgolon Lives
The Reverend of CTG
As to the all of the 2nd round picks, the Sixers traded one of those big guys for 2 future 2nd round picks, so good move there. The other big man from Bowling Green -- his stock rose at the draft combine. From what I'm reading, he could be a decent bench guy for a few years. In the 2nd round, that's all you can ask for.
As to Okafor, everyone said this was a 2 player draft from the start, and the Sixers got one of those 2 players. I'm not sure why people are mad about the pick. Embiid is still hurt, and for all we know, he could be the next Greg Oden. If Embiid does come back healthy, the Sixers can trade one of the big men.
If this draft was deeper, and some other wing players were in contention at #3, I could see the outrage. But Okafor was clearly the best player on the board. You can always argue that they could've traded back and drafted someone like Mudiay, but we have no idea if they received any decent offers to trade back.
As to Okafor, everyone said this was a 2 player draft from the start, and the Sixers got one of those 2 players. I'm not sure why people are mad about the pick. Embiid is still hurt, and for all we know, he could be the next Greg Oden. If Embiid does come back healthy, the Sixers can trade one of the big men.
If this draft was deeper, and some other wing players were in contention at #3, I could see the outrage. But Okafor was clearly the best player on the board. You can always argue that they could've traded back and drafted someone like Mudiay, but we have no idea if they received any decent offers to trade back.
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dudleysdad
Guest
Not sure who would laugh at the sixers grabbing a 6'11'' center who can score. Philly should be playing it like embiid will never play. If he does then u can figure how what u want to do. I was a bit annoyed at the 2nd rd picks being all bigs but at the end of the day 2nd rd picks hardly make the team. Okafor getting a ton of hate for not being a great defender. He is 19 yrs old. And the big man from bowling Green probably replaces a guy like Henry sims who gave philly a lot of minutes.
mook
Mayor of Mayfair
For the most part the public are dopes and have no idea about anyone outside of the top 3 or 4 guys because they hear about them on the radio/in the paper. I have no clue about half the dudes they drafted in the second round but they are mostly foreigners who they will stash or trade or never see the NBA. Of the two they drafted from college one probably replaces sims as wade said abs to tokoto who is destined for Italy or Spain when he gets cut.
Also the media is trying to manufacture outrage and clicks, /phone calls so how do you do it? Call this the worsr draft ever abs tell them the folks in charge are stupid.
What I was upset about is that didn't find a way back into the first round for a pg like jones (but I think they tried within reason so whatever).
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dudleysdad
Guest
I wanted them to grab some guards.
Joseph Young, Hanlon or even qualls from arky.
I see they signed tj McConnell PG from zona as a FA.
He may end up making the team. Scrappy player
But for anyone to say philly busted on the draft? Complete morons
Joseph Young, Hanlon or even qualls from arky.
I see they signed tj McConnell PG from zona as a FA.
He may end up making the team. Scrappy player
But for anyone to say philly busted on the draft? Complete morons
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dudleysdad
Guest
Would be top 3 in east with lebron
But they will eventually(next season) try n sign some guys I believe, a vet or two
nbafan88
Pretty much a regular
You don't win a championship until you've been through the grind and paid your
dues. Ask basically any championship team ever.
I really wish the celtics would've had your way of thinking and had not beat the cavs the last two games of the regular season.
CASH
Pretty much a regular
Your 2 comments are contradicting each other.....
CASH
Pretty much a regular
Duds - who do you believe are their foundation players they are going to add veterans around?
cubsker
Used to be "Fun Cub"
twinkie13
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After taking over the Philadelphia 76ers back in May of 2013, famously analytics-focused general manager Sam Hinkie's first order of business was to trade away then-23-year-old All-Star point guard Jrue Holiday. Hinkie began taking a sledgehammer to the Sixers' middling roster by shipping out Holiday in exchange for three future draft picks, headlined by 2013 No. 6 pick Nerlens Noel, who might've been the top overall selection if he wasn't rehabilitating after surgery to repair the torn left ACL he suffered at Kentucky.[Follow Dunks Don't Lie on Tumblr: The best slams from all of basketball]
That one move laid the groundwork for and set the tone of a yearslong rebuilding process — The Process, The Process, forever The Process — that has seen Hinkie and company play an extreme version of the long game heavy on roster churn (43 players have seen the floor for the Sixers over the past two seasons) and light on wins (Philly's gone a combined 37-127 in that span). The ongoing enterprise has yet to bear meaningful fruit, and according to a report from Keith Pompey of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the thus-far-unappetizing results have all come from a poison tree:
A stress fracture ended his 2013-14 campaign in mid-January, after just 34 appearances. A stress "reaction" and subsequent complications cost him nearly three months of last season. Then-head coach Monty Williams expressed concern for Holiday's future after the Pelicans were eliminated from the 2015 playoffs by the eventual NBA champion Golden State Warriors. From Brett Martel of The Associated Press:
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Despite leading New Orleans back to the playoffs for the first time in four years, Williams was fired after the end of the season. He'll be replaced by Warriors associate head coach Alvin Gentry.While the 76ers haven't exactly lit the world on fire since saying goodbye to Holiday, they do appear to have gotten the better of that particular exchange. After sitting out the entire '13-'14 season, Noel averaged 9.9 points and 8.1 rebounds per game last season while finishing eighth in the NBA in blocks and 10th in steals, looking like the defensive game-changer many expected.
Hinkie also flipped the 2014 first-round pick he received from New Orleans, which landed the draft rights to point guard Elfrid Payton at No. 10 overall, to the Orlando Magic in exchange for the rights to 2014's No. 12 pick, Croatian forward Dario Saric, plus a protected 2015 second-rounder and a future first-round selection. Those moves have yet to translate into immediate returns — Saric remains in Europe, and Hinkie used the 2015 second-rounder on Spanish center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom he then flipped to the New York Knicks for a pair of future second-round choices — but they remain a theoretical source of future dividends received in exchange for a player whose physical condition was evidently worse than the 76ers let on.
While the Sixers dispute the charge, the fact that the NBA levied the $3 million penalty indicates that league officials believe it had merit. That indicates to one admittedly somewhat biased observer — Oleh Kosel of Pelicans blog The Bird Writes — that Philly's punishment should've been considerably more severe:
That said, though, it wouldn't at all be shocking to see Philly pay a real price for such bad-faith negotiation.
The National Basketball Players Association plans to investigate the Sixers' dealings to see if Hinkie and company have been willfully violating the collective bargaining agreement between teams and players, a move that suggests — as our own Eric Freeman wrote — that "the Sixers have confounded expectations of team-building so deeply that players' representatives do not trust them."
In fact, Sports Illustrated's Jake Fischer reported that "multiple agents told SI.com they prevented players from working out for the Sixers during this year’s pre-draft process." That seems to be a direct rebuke of Philly's preference toward pushing second-round picks, undrafted free agents, D-League players and international prospects — a.k.a. nearly all of the 76ers' talent base — into signing three- and four-year deals at or near the minimum salary, with the latter seasons unguaranteed.
Essentially, Hinkie's using the players' (and agents') lack of leverage to get as much cost certainty as he can. If the player hits, a la Chandler Parsons, Philly keeps him around as long as possible at a bargain rate. If he misses or suffers a severe injury, the Sixers walk away quickly at minimal expense.
“With players we think have a big upside, we will only do three- or four-year deals,” Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told Grantland's Zach Lowe two summers back. “If their agents don’t like it, we let them go overseas.”
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</figure>K.J. McDaniels rejected the 76ers' contract structure, and later wound up traded. (Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)
You might remember K.J. McDaniels refusing to play ball after Hinkie tapped him with the second pick in the second round of the 2014 NBA draft. The Clemson swingman and his agent, Mark Bartelstein, "wouldn't accept the 76ers' structure of two guaranteed contract seasons that included two non-guaranteed seasons in years three and four of the deal," as Yahoo Sports NBA columnist Adrian Wojnarowski first reported. Instead, McDaniels opted for a one-year, non-guaranteed contract that allowed him to enter restricted free agency after a season.After McDaniels impressed with his athleticism, defensive work and energetic dunking — and after K.J.'s mom loudly lambasted The Process — Hinkie sent him to former boss Daryl Morey of the Houston Rockets in exchange for point guard Isaiah Canaan and a second-round pick. He played just 33 minutes after the trade; what exactly his RFA market looks like after months in the deep freeze remains unclear. (Morey's reportedly interested in keeping him around.)
Even if the Sixers' tactics aren't illegal, then — the agents with whom Fischer spoke don't seem to think much will come of the NBPA's investigation — it very much remains to be seen whether the bad blood Hinkie seems to be engendering will wind up coming back to bite him. From Jake Pavorsky of Sixers blog Liberty Ballers:
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After taking over the Philadelphia 76ers back in May of 2013, famously analytics-focused general manager Sam Hinkie's first order of business was to trade away then-23-year-old All-Star point guard Jrue Holiday. Hinkie began taking a sledgehammer to the Sixers' middling roster by shipping out Holiday in exchange for three future draft picks, headlined by 2013 No. 6 pick Nerlens Noel, who might've been the top overall selection if he wasn't rehabilitating after surgery to repair the torn left ACL he suffered at Kentucky.[Follow Dunks Don't Lie on Tumblr: The best slams from all of basketball]
That one move laid the groundwork for and set the tone of a yearslong rebuilding process — The Process, The Process, forever The Process — that has seen Hinkie and company play an extreme version of the long game heavy on roster churn (43 players have seen the floor for the Sixers over the past two seasons) and light on wins (Philly's gone a combined 37-127 in that span). The ongoing enterprise has yet to bear meaningful fruit, and according to a report from Keith Pompey of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the thus-far-unappetizing results have all come from a poison tree:
The 76ers were ordered to pay the New Orleans Pelicans $3 million by the NBA last season for not fully disclosing Jrue Holiday's injury history before he was traded two years ago, according to two sources. [...]
The sources said Holiday played with stress fractures in his lower right leg during his final season with the Sixers. However, the sources said, those injuries weren't fully disclosed to the Pelicans.
Sixers general manager Sam Hinkie declined to comment, but a Sixers team source disputed the allegation.
"That's not true," the Sixers source said.
Holiday missed just 13 games over his four seasons in Philadelphia. He played in 78 contests and logged a career-high 2,926 minutes, the 10th-highest total in the league, in the 2012-13 season before being traded to New Orleans. He's missed 90 games over the past two seasons, thanks in large part to struggles to get past right leg injuries.A stress fracture ended his 2013-14 campaign in mid-January, after just 34 appearances. A stress "reaction" and subsequent complications cost him nearly three months of last season. Then-head coach Monty Williams expressed concern for Holiday's future after the Pelicans were eliminated from the 2015 playoffs by the eventual NBA champion Golden State Warriors. From Brett Martel of The Associated Press:
"We're going to do everything we can, work with his doctors in [Los Angeles] to try to figure out how we can get him back on the floor," Williams said of Holiday while holding his end-of-season meeting with reporters on Tuesday. "No matter how you slice it, concern or frustration, the bottom line is I'm more saddened that he can't play for him."
Holiday missed half the regular season and was on minute restrictions after he returned shortly before the Pelicans' first-round playoff loss to top-seeded Golden State. Recently, Holiday mentioned he may have a screw removed from his right shin, where he had surgery to repair a stress fracture more than a year ago.
"I can't sit here and try to diminish that," Williams said. "There is concern there just because he's unsure and he hasn't been able to play."
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Despite leading New Orleans back to the playoffs for the first time in four years, Williams was fired after the end of the season. He'll be replaced by Warriors associate head coach Alvin Gentry.While the 76ers haven't exactly lit the world on fire since saying goodbye to Holiday, they do appear to have gotten the better of that particular exchange. After sitting out the entire '13-'14 season, Noel averaged 9.9 points and 8.1 rebounds per game last season while finishing eighth in the NBA in blocks and 10th in steals, looking like the defensive game-changer many expected.
Hinkie also flipped the 2014 first-round pick he received from New Orleans, which landed the draft rights to point guard Elfrid Payton at No. 10 overall, to the Orlando Magic in exchange for the rights to 2014's No. 12 pick, Croatian forward Dario Saric, plus a protected 2015 second-rounder and a future first-round selection. Those moves have yet to translate into immediate returns — Saric remains in Europe, and Hinkie used the 2015 second-rounder on Spanish center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom he then flipped to the New York Knicks for a pair of future second-round choices — but they remain a theoretical source of future dividends received in exchange for a player whose physical condition was evidently worse than the 76ers let on.
While the Sixers dispute the charge, the fact that the NBA levied the $3 million penalty indicates that league officials believe it had merit. That indicates to one admittedly somewhat biased observer — Oleh Kosel of Pelicans blog The Bird Writes — that Philly's punishment should've been considerably more severe:
What Philadelphia did rates right up there with the worst infractions in the history of the NBA, yet it seems like the penalty does not fit the crime. Were this incident to have been tried before a court of law, the outcome would have probably been much different.
In contract law, there are 3 types of misrepresentation. The most serious is fraudulent misrepresentation whereby a party purposefully deceives another about an important detail of a transaction. In circumstances regarding bad faith (such as here), the immediate remedy is recission: rewinding the events and placing all parties in a position they were prior to the contract.
Thus, were this case brought before a civil court, the Pelicans would have likely been awarded Nerlens Noel and all the assets the Sixers acquired in trading Elfrid Payton to the Magic (Dario Saric, 2 future second round draft picks from the Knicks (for trading Guillermo Hernangomez to New York -- the 2015 second round pick that was from Orlando) and most likely a 2017 first round pick.) Naturally, the Sixers would get Jrue back.
NBA matters aren't governed by courts of law, of course, but rather by the constitution and bylaws to which all 30 member teams have agreed. That's why Donald Sterling's argument that the NBA was censoring him and violating his right to free speech was ultimately unable to prevent him from losing the Los Angeles Clippers. Since the NBA has already reportedly handed down the Sixers' sanction — and since a reasonable argument can be made that any injury concerns with Holiday should've come up in the Pelicans' pre-trade physical — it seems unlikely New Orleans will get anything like the restitution Kosel prescribes.That said, though, it wouldn't at all be shocking to see Philly pay a real price for such bad-faith negotiation.
The National Basketball Players Association plans to investigate the Sixers' dealings to see if Hinkie and company have been willfully violating the collective bargaining agreement between teams and players, a move that suggests — as our own Eric Freeman wrote — that "the Sixers have confounded expectations of team-building so deeply that players' representatives do not trust them."
In fact, Sports Illustrated's Jake Fischer reported that "multiple agents told SI.com they prevented players from working out for the Sixers during this year’s pre-draft process." That seems to be a direct rebuke of Philly's preference toward pushing second-round picks, undrafted free agents, D-League players and international prospects — a.k.a. nearly all of the 76ers' talent base — into signing three- and four-year deals at or near the minimum salary, with the latter seasons unguaranteed.
Essentially, Hinkie's using the players' (and agents') lack of leverage to get as much cost certainty as he can. If the player hits, a la Chandler Parsons, Philly keeps him around as long as possible at a bargain rate. If he misses or suffers a severe injury, the Sixers walk away quickly at minimal expense.
“With players we think have a big upside, we will only do three- or four-year deals,” Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told Grantland's Zach Lowe two summers back. “If their agents don’t like it, we let them go overseas.”
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You might remember K.J. McDaniels refusing to play ball after Hinkie tapped him with the second pick in the second round of the 2014 NBA draft. The Clemson swingman and his agent, Mark Bartelstein, "wouldn't accept the 76ers' structure of two guaranteed contract seasons that included two non-guaranteed seasons in years three and four of the deal," as Yahoo Sports NBA columnist Adrian Wojnarowski first reported. Instead, McDaniels opted for a one-year, non-guaranteed contract that allowed him to enter restricted free agency after a season.After McDaniels impressed with his athleticism, defensive work and energetic dunking — and after K.J.'s mom loudly lambasted The Process — Hinkie sent him to former boss Daryl Morey of the Houston Rockets in exchange for point guard Isaiah Canaan and a second-round pick. He played just 33 minutes after the trade; what exactly his RFA market looks like after months in the deep freeze remains unclear. (Morey's reportedly interested in keeping him around.)
Even if the Sixers' tactics aren't illegal, then — the agents with whom Fischer spoke don't seem to think much will come of the NBPA's investigation — it very much remains to be seen whether the bad blood Hinkie seems to be engendering will wind up coming back to bite him. From Jake Pavorsky of Sixers blog Liberty Ballers:
The problem is that Sam Hinkie has genuinely pissed off a lot of people during his short tenure in Philadelphia, and people are willing to start leaking stuff to the press if that means throwing him under the bus. This is not the first time he's been accused of devious tactics, and frankly, it seems like the issues might start catching up.
These negative reports keep continue to pile on top of each other, and are seemingly going to hurt his ability to conduct business going forward. For the most part, everything he has done seems to be within NBA rules, but you can only tip-toe the lines of legality and treat people like robots instead of humans for so long until teams and agents no longer want to deal with you.
If Hinkie continues pursuing this path and other decision-makers start refusing to play his brand of ball, that could wind up being a far more significant penalty than $3 million and some bad press. We won't know just how significant, however, until Philly actually starts to get serious about winning, entering the running for top-shelf free agents or targeting stars via trade.</section>
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dudleysdad
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Okafor, Noel, Covington. Next year saric will be over. Yes does not sound like much.
ArizonaKid
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You can stash American players as well. Andrew Harrision, Cliff Alexander, Christian Wood...I will venture to say that these three guys will have a bigger impact than the 3 Euro's they drafted. Micheal Frazier was out there as well and every team in the league and certainly the 76ers could use 3 point shooting.
And if Philly owes the Pelicans 3 million what do the Lakers owe the 76ers for Bynum ?
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Gyno
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Can someone tell me the % of 2nd rounders that actually make a NBA roster?
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