Purdue. Penn State coming off the biggest win of the Franklin era, going on the road for an early kickoff. This is a classic letdown spot.
Iowa State live as hell.....also Purdue.
Looking at Cincy alsoCincy +230
Tulsa +215
Kentucky +170
Maryland +170
I could see these hitting, but the points are much more attractive.
Yeah, agree ZonaLine feels like a trap, but Arizona +190/200 (ish) has to be work a look, especially with Dawkins playing
I like em. I may even tease all of them.Have not had much time this week to contribute.
Last week did well on the points but none of my ML dogs won outright
This week considering the following
Navy +7 and ML
Texas Tech + 9.5 and ML
Iowa State +7 and ML
Nebraska +9 and ML
UTEP +5 and ML
Lots of home dogs this week, 24 teams if I counted right
Anyone think Navy has a chance?
Wyoming +460 anyone?
Now I am not your typical handicapper. I don't know anything that other people here don't and in fact I learn alot from reading what people here say even if I watched the game. I'm just not analytical like that, I watch games for entertainment, fun excitement and hopefully to cheer winning bets to victory!
So I just don't want anyone to blindly follow what I say, if you like what I say then sure, follow your gut and hunches if they align with me, great, hopefully we win together. But always trust your own instincts first and foremost. I might present information that you haven't looked at the way I am typing it, but it is just some opinions, observations and historical perspective that anyone could do.
Ok, now Wyoming. I like betting Wyoming, sometimes I get lucky and they backdoor the spread, or even a lucky ML winner like SD ST several years ago when they were 19 pt dog. This year there have been two WYO ML play wins discussed in our threads (vs CSU and AF). I went to a game there once and drank too much the night before and rode a mechanical bull in downtown Laramie and kicked some butt in foosball! Maybe I have a soft spot for the Pokes, or a hardon depending on your perspective. I have bet them against Boise alot...and lost alot. Vs Boise, WYO covered last year +34/35 but they were dominated really and got under the number only when Boise let up in the second half. Last time in Laramie it was downright embarrassing to have money on Pokes, which I did.
Series history (italics in Laramie):
2015 Boise -35 (34-14) Boise led 24-0 and 34-7
2014 Boise -12' (63-14) Boise led 56-7 after 3 qrt
2013 Boise -24 (48-7) WYO led 7-0, Boise scored the next 48
2012 #21 Boise -15' (45-14) WYO held to just 54y rushing on 32 att (1.7)
2011 #7 Boise -35 (36-14) WYO led 7-0 in 2nd, Boise scored next 36 with 374-51 yardage in that span
2010 #3 Boise -23' (51-6) Boise led 34-0 halftime with 409-39 yardage
2007 Boise -12' (24-14) Boise led just 7-0 halftime and only outgained WYO by 41 yards
2006 Boise -7' (17-10) WYO held Boise scoreless 2nd half and to season low 246y, 174 below their avg
2003 Boise -23 (33-17) Boise 31-13 first down edge
2002 Boise -6 (35-13) Boise went 11-1, WYO 2-10 this year
Avg line 19.45.
Avg line in Laramie 13.
Avg score 38.6 - 12.3
Avg score in Laramie 42.2 - 11.4
Boise dominates them. A roster mismatch. Wyoming has only scored a high of 17 pts vs them once. Boise has been damn good for quite a while, Wyoming has not. In the span of years covered above, Wyoming has just 3 winning seasons while Boise has 11 double digit win seasons out of 14 seasons.
Currently WYO is averaging 34.4 ppg O....that is their best since 1996 (prior best was 2013 31.3 - a year '03 that was also one of their worst defensively and got Christensen fired). Typically WYO is struggling to score avg somewhere in the high teens to twenties. The D is improved some this year, mainly in how they are flying around and getting turnovers.
The current number is 14/460.
I look back to the last time Boise came to Laramie in late mid November 2014, that line was 12.5 (according to Phil Steele, my notes have it at 14). In Bohl's first year, that 2014 Wyoming team was not good. They finished just 4-8, they allowed 44 sacks! Boise by comparison finished 12-2, MWC and Fiesta Bowl Champs. Back in 2012, Boise was favored by 15.5, just 1.5 pts higher than this current number. Wyoming entered that game 1-6...Boise was 6-1.
Turn the page to 2016, Boise may be on track to again take the MWC Championship and a New Year's Day bowl, but this Wyoming team is clearly not in the same position, they have a competent offense both running and passing, a play making QB, an all-conference RB, a more experienced OL, on D they have a Thorpe Award Semi-finalist, force turnovers (#1 MW) and score D TDs (tied #2 nationally at 4). Why then is the line the same when atleast one of the teams are not the same. Clearly there would be value by point spread comparison on Wyoming plus points here. But an upset win? Improbable to the highest degree based on history.
There is danger here. Danger that Boise boat races them per usual.
But Boise hasn't been quite as dominant as their usual self. Of course their was the 49-21 win at N Mex. But they seemed to shut it down in Corvalis and let Ore St back in the game. The ho-hum game vs Utah St. They seemed to shut it down vs Col St and let them back in the game. Last week they made mistakes that allowed BYU to hang around and Cougs almost beat them. I'd submit that Wyoming brings a better O than BYU, CSU ,Utah St, and Ore St. Not a better D than some of those teams, but if Boise is going to have close games in the 4th qrt vs some of those teams and Wyoming can move the ball better and has the 7220' stadium rocking then maybe we see something this series hasn't seen in almost a decade, a close game.
As a fan of the game and as somebody who bets games for the short-term excitement of it rather than the long-term strategy of efficiently making money, there is nothing better than being on a big unexpected upset backed up by a nice payday if it hits. Wyoming knocking off Boise St is not a bet for the risk adverse, probably not smart either. It might take luck, it might take some questionable penalties or no calls, it might take Bronco turnovers (which they sometimes give away more than you'd think...3 INTs vs W ST, 2 INTs vs BYU - and Wyoming is good at getting INTs).
I'm not trying to tell anyone to take this with me. Follow your own head and gut. But if Pokes come out on top, raise your glass to the Brown and Gold and think of me sitting somewhere in my Wyoming shirt (I have shirts for almost every team I wear on game day according to bets) basking in the profit of an unexpected upset.
great post.
Marc Lawrence @MarcLawrence
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Great stuff s--k, GL today
Wyoming +460 anyone?
Now I am not your typical handicapper. I don't know anything that other people here don't and in fact I learn alot from reading what people here say even if I watched the game. I'm just not analytical like that, I watch games for entertainment, fun excitement and hopefully to cheer winning bets to victory!
So I just don't want anyone to blindly follow what I say, if you like what I say then sure, follow your gut and hunches if they align with me, great, hopefully we win together. But always trust your own instincts first and foremost. I might present information that you haven't looked at the way I am typing it, but it is just some opinions, observations and historical perspective that anyone could do.
Ok, now Wyoming. I like betting Wyoming, sometimes I get lucky and they backdoor the spread, or even a lucky ML winner like SD ST several years ago when they were 19 pt dog. This year there have been two WYO ML play wins discussed in our threads (vs CSU and AF). I went to a game there once and drank too much the night before and rode a mechanical bull in downtown Laramie and kicked some butt in foosball! Maybe I have a soft spot for the Pokes, or a hardon depending on your perspective. I have bet them against Boise alot...and lost alot. Vs Boise, WYO covered last year +34/35 but they were dominated really and got under the number only when Boise let up in the second half. Last time in Laramie it was downright embarrassing to have money on Pokes, which I did.
Series history (italics in Laramie):
2015 Boise -35 (34-14) Boise led 24-0 and 34-7
2014 Boise -12' (63-14) Boise led 56-7 after 3 qrt
2013 Boise -24 (48-7) WYO led 7-0, Boise scored the next 48
2012 #21 Boise -15' (45-14) WYO held to just 54y rushing on 32 att (1.7)
2011 #7 Boise -35 (36-14) WYO led 7-0 in 2nd, Boise scored next 36 with 374-51 yardage in that span
2010 #3 Boise -23' (51-6) Boise led 34-0 halftime with 409-39 yardage
2007 Boise -12' (24-14) Boise led just 7-0 halftime and only outgained WYO by 41 yards
2006 Boise -7' (17-10) WYO held Boise scoreless 2nd half and to season low 246y, 174 below their avg
2003 Boise -23 (33-17) Boise 31-13 first down edge
2002 Boise -6 (35-13) Boise went 11-1, WYO 2-10 this year
Avg line 19.45.
Avg line in Laramie 13.
Avg score 38.6 - 12.3
Avg score in Laramie 42.2 - 11.4
Boise dominates them. A roster mismatch. Wyoming has only scored a high of 17 pts vs them once. Boise has been damn good for quite a while, Wyoming has not. In the span of years covered above, Wyoming has just 3 winning seasons while Boise has 11 double digit win seasons out of 14 seasons.
Currently WYO is averaging 34.4 ppg O....that is their best since 1996 (prior best was 2013 31.3 - a year '03 that was also one of their worst defensively and got Christensen fired). Typically WYO is struggling to score avg somewhere in the high teens to twenties. The D is improved some this year, mainly in how they are flying around and getting turnovers.
The current number is 14/460.
I look back to the last time Boise came to Laramie in late mid November 2014, that line was 12.5 (according to Phil Steele, my notes have it at 14). In Bohl's first year, that 2014 Wyoming team was not good. They finished just 4-8, they allowed 44 sacks! Boise by comparison finished 12-2, MWC and Fiesta Bowl Champs. Back in 2012, Boise was favored by 15.5, just 1.5 pts higher than this current number. Wyoming entered that game 1-6...Boise was 6-1.
Turn the page to 2016, Boise may be on track to again take the MWC Championship and a New Year's Day bowl, but this Wyoming team is clearly not in the same position, they have a competent offense both running and passing, a play making QB, an all-conference RB, a more experienced OL, on D they have a Thorpe Award Semi-finalist, force turnovers (#1 MW) and score D TDs (tied #2 nationally at 4). Why then is the line the same when atleast one of the teams are not the same. Clearly there would be value by point spread comparison on Wyoming plus points here. But an upset win? Improbable to the highest degree based on history.
There is danger here. Danger that Boise boat races them per usual.
But Boise hasn't been quite as dominant as their usual self. Of course their was the 49-21 win at N Mex. But they seemed to shut it down in Corvalis and let Ore St back in the game. The ho-hum game vs Utah St. They seemed to shut it down vs Col St and let them back in the game. Last week they made mistakes that allowed BYU to hang around and Cougs almost beat them. I'd submit that Wyoming brings a better O than BYU, CSU ,Utah St, and Ore St. Not a better D than some of those teams, but if Boise is going to have close games in the 4th qrt vs some of those teams and Wyoming can move the ball better and has the 7220' stadium rocking then maybe we see something this series hasn't seen in almost a decade, a close game.
As a fan of the game and as somebody who bets games for the short-term excitement of it rather than the long-term strategy of efficiently making money, there is nothing better than being on a big unexpected upset backed up by a nice payday if it hits. Wyoming knocking off Boise St is not a bet for the risk adverse, probably not smart either. It might take luck, it might take some questionable penalties or no calls, it might take Bronco turnovers (which they sometimes give away more than you'd think...3 INTs vs W ST, 2 INTs vs BYU - and Wyoming is good at getting INTs).
I'm not trying to tell anyone to take this with me. Follow your own head and gut. But if Pokes come out on top, raise your glass to the Brown and Gold and think of me sitting somewhere in my Wyoming shirt (I have shirts for almost every team I wear on game day according to bets) basking in the profit of an unexpected upset.
BOOM!Thanks. Not much compelling "here's how it will happen", but hopefully it can be a close game. No doubt the best team that Wyoming has fielded for this game in quite some time. The point spread is more indicative of series history rather than WYO improvement, unless the oddsmakers don't think the WYO improvement is real, or some kind of mirage built on inferior opponents. We'll find out 8 hours from now. +525 now. Not going to be easy!
S-K, nice fucking call! Wow!
agree, good stuff s-k and others
best of luck to all
going to stick with the following 1/2 unit on points and smaller on ML
Iowa State
Nebraska
Texas Tech
UTEP
adding Tulsa
adding Oregon State
BOOM!
Glass raised, my friend. Nice call, and enjoy the win.
S-K, nice fucking call! Wow!
Great hit on Wyoming s--k!!
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This is an absolutely huge game for Army if they are to become bowl eligible.