Week 9 Discussion

yeah that Baltimore line just got to +3.5 at a couple of my books...i got to take that, i think
 
I wouldn't lay road pts in a divisional matchup with big Ben hobbled at best.... still something tells me bell goes off today
 
im convinced the browns are tanking... until they have the #1 pick locked up

Would be such a Browns thing to do. Tanking in the NFL doesn't make nearly as much sense as it may make in basketball or hockey (especially hockey). Not sure why they would want the #1 pick this year to begin with, but to be quite honest would it even matter which year the Browns had it? Chances are they would fuck it up anyway. It's cute they would have confidence in their front office though. Just such a Browns thing to do if that's what they're doing.
 
1:00 PM Card

K.Rudolph receiving yards over 49½ +100
B.Marshall receiving yards over 69½ -120#RevengeGame
E.Elliottt rushing yards over 115½ -135
Giants -3 +100
 
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Word is that Ryan Matthews is not going to play much if at all. I just popped the shit out of sproles o 62.5 rush/recyrds
 
I was referring to Bell as an IDP, only played @ Bal 2x

2014- team put up 6 points and he had 11-59/5-48

2013- 146 all purpose 7 catches 1 td.

I was referring to your "bet the home dog" comment, and giving some info to back up your thoughts.
 
Circadian angle in effect tonight but hate that 6.5 line opener

This.

Massive Circadian as the Bills are a true East Coast team but this line should be 7.5+, spread in April was -10.

ELO has -5.5,

No Kam and Bennett is big although Bennett's replacement is solid.

The '5 fat guys from Arby's' offensive line vs a pretty good Bills defensive front.

Pete Carroll undefeated as Hags coach on MNF.
 
The 'situational' play is almost dead in the NFL either way. Oakland were in a ripe spot last night but the Donks have a shitty coach.
 
Em, the last circadian play was arizona vs the jets?

Arizona is not pacific time zone but i dont think that matters much.. im just trying to run the query...
 
We are basically Pacific for most of the year, until last weekend through early March
 
they get it in every round and they're clearly not going to the playoffs so if you know that you're not in the postseason i would think everyone should tank for #1



i'd assume yes, but re-injury risk is yuge

I still don't get the tanking theory in the NFL. In other sports, hockey especially, the first 3 or so picks in a draft much more often than not turn out to be great players. Not just good, but great...all star and HOF level players. The NFL draft is a complete crap shoot compared to the other sports, there is no such thing as a sure thing...the closest we've seen in the recent past is Luck, and the analysis on him these days isn't very flattering at all. Most of that is just noise, and Luck was worthy of the hype and is the exception to the rule, but he still isn't seen in the best light these days.

I'm not sure why having the first pick of each round even really matters anyway, given that everyone gets a pick in each round and again it's a complete crap shoot for the most part. Specifically for the Browns...it doesn't matter which spot they draft in, they're more than likely going to fuck it up, so it really doesn't matter. They aren't the only team in that spot, but they are one of them.
 
time zone = P and o:time zone = E and day = Monday and H
SU:17-4-0 (8.86, 81.0%)
ATS:14-7-0 (3.17, 66.7%) avg line: -5.7

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[TH="bgcolor: F8F8F8, colspan: 4"]Teaser Records[/TH]

[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +6: 17-4-0 (81.0%)
RushesRush YdsPassesCompPass YdsTOsQ1Q2Q3Q4Final
Team30.2135.033.422.0239.10.94.87.36.57.926.6
Opp22.484.935.720.9221.11.82.66.03.45.617.7

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[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Season[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Team[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Opp[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Site[/TH]
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[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Q4[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Final[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Line[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]Total[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]SUm[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]ATSm[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]OUm[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]DPS[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]DPA[/TH]
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[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]ATSr[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]OUr[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1"]ot[/TH]

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O/U:10-11-0 (1.62, 47.6%) avg total: 42.7

[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -6: 9-12-0 (42.9%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +10: 19-2-0 (90.5%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -10: 7-13-1 (35.0%) [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +6: 6-15-0 (28.6%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -6: 15-5-1 (75.0%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +10: 6-15-0 (28.6%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -10: 17-4-0 (81.0%) [/TD]

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[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Nov 27, 1989 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 12 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1989 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Giants [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 14-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 34-24 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -6.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 41.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 4.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 17.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 6.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Dec 04, 1989 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1989 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Seahawks [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Bills [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 17-16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 5.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 39.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -6.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -6.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Oct 01, 1990 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1990 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Seahawks [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Bengals [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 14-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 31-16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 43.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 16.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -6.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Dec 03, 1990 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1990 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Giants [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -3.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 41.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -31.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -15.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -16.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Dec 28, 1992 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1992 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Lions [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 17-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 24-6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -13.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 37.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 18 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 5.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -7.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -1.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -6.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Dec 27, 1993 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1993 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Chargers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Dolphins [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 14-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 14-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 45-20 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 38.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 25 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 26.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 27.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 26.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Jan 03, 1994 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 18 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1993 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Eagles [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 14-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 34-37 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -12.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 41.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -15.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 29.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 22.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Nov 11, 1996 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 11 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1996 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Chargers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Lions [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 27-21 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -4.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 44.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 4.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Dec 23, 1996 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1996 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Lions [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 24-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -9.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 41.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -3.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -1.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -2.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Nov 30, 1998 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1998 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Giants [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 31-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -13.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 41.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 24 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -3.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -6.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Dec 14, 1998 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 1998 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Lions [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 14-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 35-13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -10.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 49.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 22 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 12.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -1.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 5.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -6.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Nov 25, 2002 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 12 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2002 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Eagles [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-21 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 17-38 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -7.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 38.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -21 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -28.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 17.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -5.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 22.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Dec 02, 2002 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 2002 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Raiders [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Jets [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 14-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 6-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 26-20 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -6.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 48.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -0.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -2.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -1.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -0.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Nov 17, 2003 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 11 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2003 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Steelers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 14-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 30-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -4.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 41.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 12.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -4.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O [/TD]
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[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Oct 10, 2005 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 2005 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Chargers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Steelers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 6-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 9-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 22-24 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -3.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 45.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -5.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -2.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 2.8 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Sep 22, 2008 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2008 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Chargers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Jets [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 21-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 48-29 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -9.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 44.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 19 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 33.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 21.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 11.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Dec 19, 2011 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 2011 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Steelers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 20-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -2.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 37.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 14.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -14.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -14.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Oct 14, 2013 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2013 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Chargers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Colts [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 19-9 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 50.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 11.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -22.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -5.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -16.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Dec 23, 2013 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 2013 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Fortyniners [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Falcons [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 21-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 34-24 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -13.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 46.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -3.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 12.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 4.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] W [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] O [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Oct 05, 2015 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2015 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Seahawks [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Lions [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 13-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -9.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 43.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -6.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -20.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -13.2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -6.8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] U [/TD]
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[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Oct 12, 2015 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 2015 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Chargers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] Steelers [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 7-0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 13-14 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 20-24 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -3.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 45.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -7.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -1.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] -4.5 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 3.0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] L [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] U [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2"] 0 [/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Nov 07, 2016 [/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Monday [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2016 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Seahawks [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Bills [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 43.0 [/TD]
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just having a tough time trusting seattle... RW is just not the same now that his legs have been taken away from him and that o-line is pretty bad

might have to lay off tonight
 
Em, the last circadian play was arizona vs the jets?

Arizona is not pacific time zone but i dont think that matters much.. im just trying to run the query...

Yes. But Zona is in the Mountain TZ, Pacific is the stronger of the two.

Also Bills>>Jets.

7-14 ATS for East Coast teams playing a Monday Night game in either SF, SD, SEA, OAK or LA.

They are on a 3-0 ATS run though. League killing situations with the 'softening' of the sport.
 
Also the fact that one of the more recent outcomes was Seattle on Monday night as -9.5 over the Lions and they won 13-10
 
just having a tough time trusting seattle... RW is just not the same now that his legs have been taken away from him and that o-line is pretty bad

might have to lay off tonight

Generally fading the steam is the way too go. Somewhat of a 'buy-low' on the Hags being the NFL is such a perception based league.

It's Hags or no play tonight.
 
I played SEA in the 2nd quarter and their first half tt over, trust that defense and Russ in a two minute drill much more than Tyrod if I need something late, even if injured.
 
Considering a Hags 1st quarter bet. Have outscored their opponents 24-0 in 3 games at home this season.

Game has that Vikes v Lions feel about it from yesterday.
 
as much of a nitwit as rex is he does have the capability of devising schemes that will put pressure on russ who isn't exactly mobile these days and i think bills ok defending the run, not sure though, seatt will stuff buffs run i believe so low scoring maybe which would lean you toward the dog....maybe follow em on the first q
 
Most definitely. You have to be silly to bet on the Bills. Percy coming back is somewhat of a joke to me. Rex just trying to make a storyline.


Its not a bigger joke than the wr they were trotting out to play. Not saying Percy will be a factor tonight whatsoever (he even said in an interview it will take a couple weeks) but by default he is the most talented wr on the team.
 
I don't think the East Coast/West Coast angle is a secret anymore. Even square-ass sportswriters are including that angle in their writeups on this game. That angle is built into the line at this point.
 
Going back to last season only the Pats have laid more points than the Seahawks. Truth is though, unless Seattle has been lined better than double-digits, they haven't been too great covering the spread.
 
This is the season for the Bills... no way they even get close to the playoff race without this game- final one vs NFC team. Coming off getting dominated at home with no McCoy they are damn sure putting forth a max effort tonight. I guess you can say the same for the Seahawks off a road loss but are they really the team/defense they have been in years prior? Hightower and Johnson both got over 100 yds on the ground- Buffalo will be pounding the run all night. My biggest concern is whether or not the Miami game was an anomaly or are the Bills going to have trouble vs the run. Christine Michael isn't striking fear in anyone's heart but again if the Bills offense can't sustain drives it will get ugly fast. Maybe T-mobile takes a couple shots downfield but I do think the Bills can establish the run and move the chains. From a totals perspective 43 is tight but I could see it getting over that/ Bills are putting up 17-27 range imo.... Bills+3.5 1sth/+175 1sth/ tt o17.5 for me
 
defensively not a surprise Dareus is inactive. Glad Lorenzo is active but he's pretty banged up so who knows how big of an impact he'll have. Tonight I would expect Shaq Lawson to be on the field a bunch- hopefully he has a game. Zach Brown definitely needs to show up if they are to have a shot.
 
I think if you are going to take the Bills' team total over, you might as well just play them SU and ATS. Going back the L3 seasons opposing teams are 13-6 SU and 15-3-1 ATS when Seattle gives up more than 17 points. Those games also went 15-4 to the over.
 
Meh that was in the past though.. bills are more than capable of blowing a lead, I'll be checking in at the half. I don't put so much stock into trends but that's just me.


Hoping for a couple runs and a play action bomb to goodwin!!!!
 
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