Week 9 Discussion Thread

[VirginiaCavs]

Oct 24 Tue 2023

06:00 PM
101	New Mexico State	+2½ -116		O 51½ -110
102	Louisiana Tech+1 Markets	-2½ -104		U 51½ -110

06:30 PM
103	Liberty	-3½ -113		O 60 -110
104	Western Kentucky+1 Markets	+3½ -107		U 60 -110

Oct 25 Wed 2023

06:00 PM
105	Jacksonville State	-8 -115		O 44½ -110
106	Florida International+1 Markets	+8 -105		U 44½ -110

07:00 PM
107	UTEP	+3½ -110		O 36 -110
108	Sam Houston St+1 Markets	-3½ -110		U 36 -110

Oct 26 Thu 2023

06:30 PM
111	Syracuse	+3 -109		O 47 -110
112	Virginia Tech+1 Markets	-3 -111		U 47 -110

06:30 PM
113	Georgia State	+2½ -110		O 62 -110
114	Georgia Southern+1 Markets	-2½ -110		U 62 -110

Oct 27 Fri 2023

06:30 PM
119	Florida Atlantic	-5 -107		O 42 -110
120	Charlotte+1 Markets	+5 -113		U 42 -110

Oct 28 Sat 2023

11:00 AM
123	Massachusetts	+9 -110		O 48 -110
124	Army+1 Markets	-9 -110		U 48 -110

11:00 AM
127	Connecticut	+12 -105		O 52½ -110
128	Boston College+1 Markets	-12 -115		U 52½ -110

11:00 AM
129	Florida State	-20 -110		O 53 -110
130	Wake Forest+1 Markets	+20 -110		U 53 -110

11:00 AM
135	West Virginia	+7 -105		O 59½ -110
136	Central Florida+1 Markets	-7 -115		U 59½ -110

11:00 AM
155	Indiana	+31 -105		O 44 -116
156	Penn State+1 Markets	-31 -115		U 44 -104

11:00 AM
159	Maryland	-13½ -115		O 48½ -110
160	Northwestern+1 Markets	+13½ -105		U 48½ -110

11:00 AM
173	Colorado	+17 -110		O 64 -110
174	UCLA	-17 -110		U 64 -110

11:00 AM
189	Houston	+16½ -110		O 60½ -110
190	Kansas State+1 Markets	-16½ -110		U 60½ -110

11:00 AM
201	South Carolina	+14 -105		O 54½ -110
202	Texas A&M+1 Markets	-14 -115		U 54½ -110

11:00 AM
209	Tulsa	+19½ -110		O 57 -110
210	SMU+1 Markets	-19½ -110		U 57 -110

12:00 PM
149	Western Michigan	-1½ -115		O 44½ -110
150	Eastern Michigan+1 Markets	+1½ -105		U 44½ -110

12:00 PM
153	Oklahoma	-10½ -109		O 66 -110
154	Kansas+1 Markets	+10½ -111		U 66 -110

12:00 PM
165	Oregon	-6 -115		O 49 -110
166	Utah+1 Markets	+6 -105		U 49 -110

12:00 PM
181	Georgia	-14½ -115		O 49 -110
182	Florida+1 Markets	+14½ -105		U 49 -110

12:00 PM
193	Ohio State	-14½ -105		O 44 -110
194	Wisconsin+1 Markets	+14½ -115		U 44 -110

01:00 PM
141	Clemson	-10 -110		O 43½ -110
142	NC State+1 Markets	+10 -110		U 43½ -110

02:00 PM
185	Memphis	-8½ -110		O 67½ -110
186	North Texas+1 Markets	+8½ -110		U 67½ -110

02:30 PM
121	Michigan State	+7 -110		O 40½ -110
122	Minnesota+1 Markets	-7 -110		U 40½ -110

02:30 PM
131	Virginia	+18 -110		O 50 -110
132	Miami Florida+1 Markets	-18 -110		U 50 -110

02:30 PM
133	Duke	+4 -110		O 47 -110
134	Louisville+1 Markets	-4 -110		U 47 -110

02:30 PM
143	Southern Miss	+17½ -110		O 55½ -110
144	Appalachian State+1 Markets	-17½ -110		U 55½ -110

02:30 PM
151	Miami Ohio	+7 -115		O 40 -110
152	Ohio+1 Markets	-7 -105		U 40 -110

02:30 PM
157	Purdue	+3 -110		O 42 -110
158	Nebraska+1 Markets	-3 -110		U 42 -110

02:30 PM
183	Pittsburgh	+19 -107		O 46½ -110
184	Notre Dame+1 Markets	-19 -113		U 46½ -110

02:30 PM
187	Iowa State	-1 -115		O 47 -110
188	Baylor+1 Markets	+1 -105		U 47 -110

02:30 PM
195	BYU	+17 -110		O 51 -105
196	Texas+1 Markets	-17 -110		U 51 -115

02:30 PM
197	Mississippi State	+6 -110		O 43 -110
198	Auburn+1 Markets	-6 -110		U 43 -110

02:30 PM
211	East Carolina	+18 -110		O 46 -110
212	UTSA+1 Markets	-18 -110		U 46 -110

03:00 PM
169	USC	-10 -110		O 67 -115
170	California+1 Markets	+10 -110		U 67 -105

03:00 PM
207	Tulane	-11½ -110		O 55½ -105
208	Rice+1 Markets	+11½ -110		U 55½ -115

04:00 PM
137	Arkansas State	+2 -105		O 58½ -110
138	UL Monroe+1 Markets	-2 -115		U 58½ -110

04:00 PM
205	UL Lafayette	+10 -110		O 52 -117
206	South Alabama+1 Markets	-10 -110		U 52 -103

04:30 PM
163	Wyoming	+5½ -115		O 49 -110
164	Boise State+1 Markets	-5½ -105		U 49 -110

05:00 PM
145	Marshall	-3½ -115		O 47½ -110
146	Coastal Carolina+1 Markets	+3½ -105		U 47½ -110

06:00 PM
125	Tennessee	-3½ -110		O 51½ -105
126	Kentucky+1 Markets	+3½ -110		U 51½ -115

06:00 PM
161	Air Force	-12 -110		O 50 -110
162	Colorado State+1 Markets	+12 -110		U 50 -110

06:00 PM
179	Washington	-26½ -115		O 59½ -110
180	Stanford+1 Markets	+26½ -105		U 59½ -110

06:00 PM
191	Troy	-5½ -115		O 52½ -110
192	Texas State+1 Markets	+5½ -105		U 52½ -110

06:30 PM
199	Vanderbilt	+25 -105		O 63½ -105
200	Mississippi+1 Markets	-25 -115		U 63½ -115

07:00 PM
139	North Carolina	-11½ -110		O 63½ -110
140	Georgia Tech+1 Markets	+11½ -110		U 63½ -110

07:00 PM
147	Old Dominion	+17½ -110		O 49 -110
148	James Madison+1 Markets	-17½ -110		U 49 -110

07:00 PM
171	Washington State	-6 -110		O 51½ -110
172	Arizona State+1 Markets	+6 -110		U 51½ -110

07:00 PM
203	Cincinnati	+7½ -115		O 54½ -110
204	Oklahoma State+1 Markets	-7½ -105		U 54½ -110

09:30 PM
167	UNLV	+9½ -110		O 58½ -110
168	Fresno State+1 Markets	-9½ -110		U 58½ -110

09:30 PM
175	Oregon State	-3½ -110		O 57½ -110
176	Arizona+1 Markets	+3½ -110		U 57½ -110

09:30 PM
177	New Mexico	+2½ -110		O 50½ -110
178	Nevada+1 Markets	-2½ -110		U 50½ -110

11:00 PM
213	San Jose State	-8 -110		O 61 -110
214	Hawaii+1 Markets	+8 -110		U 61 -110

 

[B.A.R.]

We're excited.

Looking at T25 games.

OU @ Kansas should see plenty of points.


Oregon @ Utah probably my favorite game.


Duke and Louisville a sneaky fun one.


Overall, probably the weakest slate all year. We'll find winners though.

 

[Br@ssknux]

Something remarkable I just noticed from late last night:

San Diego State was shut out at home by Nevada, 6-0.

Did they actually play that game, or did we have a hurricane hit San Diego at halftime?

Nevada came into that game with the following defensive ranks:

Yards per play against: 133rd
Yards per rush : 133rd
Yards per pass attempt: 132nd
3rd down conversions 132nd

San Diego State scored zero points and got a total of 204 yards for the game. Did Nevada reincarnate Dick Butkus and Mean Joe Greene for the game?

 

[KJ]

We're excited.

Looking at T25 games.

OU @ Kansas should see plenty of points.


Oregon @ Utah probably my favorite game.


Duke and Louisville a sneaky fun one.


Overall, probably the weakest slate all year. We'll find winners though.

There were so many shitty games yesterday I can't fathom a weaker slate than that. If it goes back to back there will be self-induced vomiting all over CFB land

 

[M.W.]

Oklahoma State. It’s Homecoming, and they’re playing better since resolving the QB issue.

NC State. Clemson will not bounce back from last night’s loss. Not on the road.

 

[CPA-hole]

Nevada had a 16 game losing streak. They won.

New Mexico hadn't win a conference game since Dec 12, 2020. They won.

They meet in Reno Saturday. College Gameday, there's your location. You're welcome.

 

[jimmymo]

The Oregon -3 lasted about 1 minute.....I am praying I can get 4 when available to me......big, big play at 4....sadly, I am guessing it will be 6 soon

 

[jimmymo]

UCLA -17 seems high, but I think that it is warranted if Garbers remains.....he is just so much of a better option right now

Arizona +5 at home against Oregon State....will pay to see Jonathan Smith beat me again

 

[CPA-hole]

 

[KJ]

Clones minus a million

Reality is I'll be on Baylor most likely as much as it makes me want to gag

 

[Frank Costanza]

Sounds like Ewers has either an AC, clavlcle fracture or shoulder dislocation. Throwing shoulder. Any of the scenarios is obviously not good.

 

[Grovehard]

Vandy at anything over 21 is a play.

 

[jimmymo]

So far...

Oregon -5.5
ASU +6
BYU +19 1/2

 

[C-MAN]

Kentucky
Cal

First two that jumped out

 

[EL CAPO]

michigan state over a td dog stands out vs minnesota.........big ten west is like the afc south, no one should be big favorites. I know sparty isn't in the west, but they might as well be

 

[M.W.]

Clones minus a million

Reality is I'll be on Baylor most likely as much as it makes me want to gag

Why?

 

[KJ]

Why?

I'll chew on it but typically I don't bet against Baylor at home or on them when they're on the road. This year I haven't paid them as much attention as usual so got some catching up to do.

 

[M.W.]

I'll chew on it but typically I don't bet against Baylor at home or on them when they're on the road. This year I haven't paid them as much attention as usual so got some catching up to do.

So it’s not like there are new injuries or other bye week news on the Iowa State side because I definitely liked the version of that team I saw two weeks ago.

 

[KJ]

So it’s not like there are new injuries or other bye week news on the Iowa State side because I definitely liked the version of that team I saw two weeks ago.

Yeah I'm not much into the injury angle but there is certainly no news I've heard of. I do like how Rocco has progressed, wish we could have do overs with Iowa and Ohio at this point.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Is Jalon Daniels ever going to play again?

 

[He Hate Me]

Biggest line moves since open:

 

[Dollaz]

Staying away from ODU this week. Knew it would be a big number but their defense could completely stifle ODU.

 

[B.A.R.]

Staying away from ODU this week. Knew it would be a big number but their defense could completely stifle ODU.

Glad to find this post.

Thanks.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Purdum's ESPN nuggets. Can't believe I've not been checking these...

• Penn State is 6-0 ATS as a favorite this season and is 11-0-1 ATS as a favorite dating back to last season.
• Georgia is 0-7-1 in its last 8 games against unranked teams.
• Tulane has covered nine straight road games.
• USC has gone over the total in five straight and seven of eight games this season.
• Stanford is 0-7-1 ATS against ranked teams since the start of last season.
• Ohio State is 10-3 ATS vs Wisconsin since 2007.
• Vanderbilt is 1-7 ATS this season.
• Oregon State is 13-3 ATS as a favorite dating back to last season.

CFB Week 9: Betting odds and lines for top 25

Here are all of the betting odds, lines and spreads for the college football matchups featuring top-25 teams in Week 9.

www.espn.com

 

[B.A.R.]

Purdum's ESPN nuggets. Can't believe I've not been checking these...

• Penn State is 6-0 ATS as a favorite this season and is 11-0-1 ATS as a favorite dating back to last season.
• Georgia is 0-7-1 in its last 8 games against unranked teams.
• Tulane has covered nine straight road games.
• USC has gone over the total in five straight and seven of eight games this season.
• Stanford is 0-7-1 ATS against ranked teams since the start of last season.
• Ohio State is 10-3 ATS vs Wisconsin since 2007.
• Vanderbilt is 1-7 ATS this season.
• Oregon State is 13-3 ATS as a favorite dating back to last season.

CFB Week 9: Betting odds and lines for top 25

Here are all of the betting odds, lines and spreads for the college football matchups featuring top-25 teams in Week 9.

www.espn.com

You know what, I haven't read this all year.

TBH, I usually saw it on SM feed or your link here.

Disappeared.

 

[KJ]

This morning card is epically poor. Only game before 12:30 Pacific lined at under a TD is a directional Michigan game!

 

[askias]

Case for/against Oklahoma today?

 

[KJ]

Case for/against Oklahoma today?

They are a bazillion times better on defense than last year and shouldn't have any kind of situation bias today, think they win big. Only included in a ML parlay to this point but I'm no fan of laying around a TD in general. But tough to find parlay partners today.

Wouldn't be against a 1h/2h chase on their line at this point. OU defense might be the most improved unit year over year of any D1 unit out there this season.

 

[KJ]

Big Noon is just as much trash as gameday, probably more.

First time I've watched it and had to turn to the calm app

Mark Ingram is incredibly awful. I don't need Quinn, Ingram, Leinart and Urb all playing the Herbie role. Holy shit there are four homers on the set and Rob Stone is a terrible version of Fowler who I know doesn't do gameday anymore. It's so self promoting. Not sure how any of you guys watch this and bitch about ESPNs version. This is dramatically worse and I don't watch that one!

Just give me kickoff please

 

[C-MAN]

I expect FSU to come out strong and focused today. Taking them 1H -11.5. Wake is NOT good and FSU has been reminded all week how they lost the last couple to Wake.

 

[Dollaz]

Glad to find this post.

Thanks.

OOPS

 

[B.A.R.]

OOPS

That's a good oops

 

[aplous]

Heading to Austin on Friday to see the last KSU/UT game. @Frank Costanza or @GWarner27 going to be in the house?

Wildcats are playing well but I think UT D is a big upgrade from what we've seen lately. Horns -4 looks good unless Murphy stinks and gives it away a few times.

 

[aplous]

Big Noon is just as much trash as gameday, probably more.

First time I've watched it and had to turn to the calm app

Mark Ingram is incredibly awful. I don't need Quinn, Ingram, Leinart and Urb all playing the Herbie role. Holy shit there are four homers on the set and Rob Stone is a terrible version of Fowler who I know doesn't do gameday anymore. It's so self promoting. Not sure how any of you guys watch this and bitch about ESPNs version. This is dramatically worse and I don't watch that one!

Just give me kickoff please

Is the OU defense that improved? Bean had guys running wide open all day Saturday and missed a ton of them. OU run D is much improved I will agree..

 

[KJ]

Is the OU defense that improved? Bean had guys running wide open all day Saturday and missed a ton of them. OU run D is much improved I will agree..

I actually didn't watch much of that game so I can't comment on whether that's a one-off or it's possibly they're wearing down as the season goes on. Something to pay attention to for sure.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Heading to Austin on Friday to see the last KSU/UT game. @Frank Costanza or @GWarner27 going to be in the house?

Wildcats are playing well but I think UT D is a big upgrade from what we've seen lately. Horns -4 looks good unless Murphy stinks and gives it away a few times.

I go to my share of Horns games but they are typically in Dallas for OU / on the road as our in-game environment is assault and battery on the senses. Whored out, 1/2 infomercial and 1/2 night club dog and pony show, with decibels out the ass. I was a season ticket holder for a long time but things really started to slide about 5 years ago. Biggest reason is that so many people now at home games are of the corporate type, with no ties to Texas. (Have to remember that Austin is the 9th largest city in the country now.) So the game atmosphere has been steered toward some sort of backward entertainment angle. It's become such an embarrassment. That's not an isolated opinion. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the environment. Night games are worse but you'll get your share even with an 11A kick.

Enjoy your visit, but hopefully not too much. I don't trust Murphy in this type game. He still has a lot of growing to do. Very difficult not to like K-State and the points.

 

[M.W.]

I go to my share of Horns games but they are typically in Dallas for OU / on the road as our in-game environment is assault and battery on the senses. Whored out, 1/2 infomercial and 1/2 night club dog and pony show, with decibels out the ass. I was a season ticket holder for a long time but things really started to slide about 5 years ago. Biggest reason is that so many people now at home games are of the corporate type, with no ties to Texas. (Have to remember that Austin is the 9th largest city in the country now.) So the game atmosphere has been steered toward some sort of backward entertainment angle. It's become such an embarrassment. That's not an isolated opinion. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the environment. Night games are worse but you'll get your share even with an 11A kick.

Enjoy your visit, but hopefully not too much. I don't trust Murphy in this type game. He still has a lot of growing to do. Very difficult not to like K-State and the points.

The decibels thing describes my experience at TCU last year. Horrible noise.

 

[aplous]

I go to my share of Horns games but they are typically in Dallas for OU / on the road as our in-game environment is assault and battery on the senses. Whored out, 1/2 infomercial and 1/2 night club dog and pony show, with decibels out the ass. I was a season ticket holder for a long time but things really started to slide about 5 years ago. Biggest reason is that so many people now at home games are of the corporate type, with no ties to Texas. (Have to remember that Austin is the 9th largest city in the country now.) So the game atmosphere has been steered toward some sort of backward entertainment angle. It's become such an embarrassment. That's not an isolated opinion. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the environment. Night games are worse but you'll get your share even with an 11A kick.

Enjoy your visit, but hopefully not too much. I don't trust Murphy in this type game. He still has a lot of growing to do. Very difficult not to like K-State and the points.

Sounds good....I'll report back.

 

[GWarner27]

Heading to Austin on Friday to see the last KSU/UT game. @Frank Costanza or @GWarner27 going to be in the house?

Wildcats are playing well but I think UT D is a big upgrade from what we've seen lately. Horns -4 looks good unless Murphy stinks and gives it away a few times.

sorry Dallas boi now, Austin just isn't very appealing to go unless there's a big occasion or if i had bought a house years ago