Week 10 Lookahead Lines and Discussion

Saints are clearly the best team in league.

Best o line.

Best QB

Best receiver in kanara.

Thomas is a top 3 receiver every week.


Payton win it before.

Saints this year will dominate Marvin Lewis
 
How can you not take that under 54 in cincy? Look at saints scores when they play outdoors on grass!! And it wasn’t even cold in those games!! I really like how saints d is evolving, hasn’t shown in the numbers but they been facing some big time offenses. I expect those pass defense numbers and turnovers gonna start improving. They already sport best yards par carry against. They limit mixon and ginger will struggle especially without green so saints best corner will make life tough for boyd. What everyone seems to overlook about Peyton and what I love about him is he likes to run the football! 6th in league at 28.6 rushing attempts per game, 34 per the last 3. Cincy rush defense been awful. Fully expect saints to be a power football team in this game. One concern is these offenses a couple of the best cashing red zone trips into tds but the clock gonna be running here and this will not be the shootout the total suggest.. 27 points will be plenty for the winning side imo.
 
Crazy Cap I was supposed to go to Arrowhead this weekend too but that got 86'd real quick when the Cards looked worse than ASU
 
Sammy Meatballs said:
Saints are clearly the best team in league.

Best o line.

Best QB

Best receiver in kanara.

Thomas is a top 3 receiver every week.


Payton win it before.

Saints this year will dominate Marvin Lewis
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I had saints vs rams last week but still think it incredibly debatable which roster better. Just thought that environment be too much for young rams who been flirting w a loss last several weeks. Not sure how you can say saints roster better than rams tho? Getting dez helps but rams wrs better. Rams defense better. Kumara is only rb even close to Gurley but Gurley still the man.

Peyton so great he has all those SB appearances right??? Saints don’t even win the south all that often!! Let’s pump the brakes a little.. they great in domes, they don’t look all that great on grass.

No green prob kills bungals since saints run d is really good. Still wouldn’t lay 4.5 on them, wouldn’t even bet them to win even tho they probably do., game gonna be much more a grinder than expected.. bungals defense just not that good. When saints went to Balty they didn’t look like world beaters when they were down 17-7 going into 4th. Per usual saints got gifted free 1st downs when they needed them but sure didn’t see them running circles around ravens.
 
GWarner27 said:
usually when SEA is the dominant team though
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Yea that certainly used to be case but not the earlier game this year or last season (Seattle got them once then rams ran them out of building the other). 10 just seems ridiculous imo.
 
Looking hard at the under tonight in Pittsburgh. Should be in the 30s by game time at the stadium. Last two Carolina totals of been inflated with Baltimore giving them short fields and Tampa Bay playing no defense. Pitt has been running it well and playing better D. Hate playing unders in this league but total looks about 3 pts too high to me.
 
Did some digging into Pitt performances the game following Baltimore. Dating back to 2012 (just because I need to get some work done so had to stop) Pitt is 6-7 SU vs Baltimore. The games following the Balti game they are 5-8 SU. Even more interesting, following a win against Balti - Pitt is only 1-5 SU with that one win at home to Cleveland in 2016 week 17.

I heard Pat Kirwin on NFL Radio talking about how these two teams usually kick the shit out of one another & spend extra time in the ice so it prompted me to look into this.
 
Car has been shit OTR this season though. Losses @Was and @Atl and then that game @Phi where they were dominated for 3 quarters and then Philly took the 4Q off.
 
BTW, I’m loving Wash this weekend. Wrong team favored here. Tampa Bay defense is trash, both running backs are hurt so you are basically banking on FitzPatrick doing it all himself. Wash has looked awful in its three losses this year but has bounced back nicely following the previous two which were SU wins vs Car and GB. Can’t believe they are offering a fg to the significantly better team here.
 
Shocked the Bears are laying so many points. Their wins have been vs Jets, Buff, Arz and TB and a depleted Sea team. Misleading final last week as Det was driving late in a close game before the defensive TD.
 
C-MAN said:
Car has been shit OTR this season though. Losses @Was and @Atl and then that game @Phi where they were dominated for 3 quarters and then Philly took the 4Q off.
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credit them for erasing a 17-0 deficit in the 4q, not sure PHI gave up on the game as you suggest. Short week is really tough on the road team as we've seen, however

C-MAN said:
BTW, I’m loving Wash this weekend. Wrong team favored here. Tampa Bay defense is trash, both running backs are hurt so you are basically banking on FitzPatrick doing it all himself. Wash has looked awful in its three losses this year but has bounced back nicely following the previous two which were SU wins vs Car and GB. Can’t believe they are offering a fg to the significantly better team here.
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agree about the spread, but those bouncebacks were not with a completely new OL
 
C-MAN said:
Car has been shit OTR this season though. Losses @Was and @Atl and then that game @Phi where they were dominated for 3 quarters and then Philly took the 4Q off.
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I'd be careful because a lot of those home/away trends have been turning around. Like Dallas just played at home vs Titties like it had on the road all season
 
GWarner27 said:
agree about the spread, but those bouncebacks were not with a completely new OL
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Kinda thinking that makeshift Washington O-line might make Tampa look like the 85 Bears this week, that's just a ridiculous amount to overcome for any team
 
apparently that has nothing to do with the opponent storming back from a nearly impossible deficit, CAR deserves that credit instead of being dismissed as a PHI problem
 
GWarner27 said:
apparently that has nothing to do with the opponent storming back from a nearly impossible deficit, CAR deserves that credit instead of being dismissed as a PHI problem
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Apparently Philly's playcalling may have been problematic. Either way, that's a separate discussion, just wanted to point out that you were probably twisting what C-Man said
 
JFC Cavs are you really gonna break the guy's balls for restating what someone else said? Cut him some slack. Regardless of what C-man meant, that is what was written.
 
Zeke said:
JFC Cavs are you really gonna break the guy's balls for restating what someone else said? Cut him some slack. Regardless of what C-man meant, that is what was written.
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Do you not get the diff between giving up and taking off
 
CAR has caught enough money that's it's out of range for me to play, but i think this one is a toss-up
 
Big_Degenerate said:
Agree hard to get a feel for tonight.
Degenerate action for me Carolina +3.5
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So bummed they finally put a good game on Thursday night! Lol. I mean it cool and all we get a game worth watching but no secret I hate capping this bs short week garbage!!

Only thing I kept leaning to was the over when looking at it this week but never loved it enough to pull trigger. Now that time is here maybe just a half unit or something? Practically impossible for me to love a thu night play!!!
 
C-MAN said:
BTW, I’m loving Wash this weekend. Wrong team favored here. Tampa Bay defense is trash, both running backs are hurt so you are basically banking on FitzPatrick doing it all himself. Wash has looked awful in its three losses this year but has bounced back nicely following the previous two which were SU wins vs Car and GB. Can’t believe they are offering a fg to the significantly better team here.
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Not sure I love skins, dunno that I’ve played one their games all season and have watched very little of them. No clue what I think about them, prob only team in freakin league I really have no opinion about! Strange!!

That said when I saw the line I basically had almost same feeling as you, dunno how bucs god awful defense and whichever turnover prone shitbag qb they playing is favored over any kind of decent team whatsoever?!???? Did little reading and apparently skins oline banged up? Still have no clue why anyone would play the fav here? Def skins or nothing imo.
 
2daBank said:
So bummed they finally put a good game on Thursday night! Lol. I mean it cool and all we get a game worth watching but no secret I hate capping this bs short week garbage!!

Only thing I kept leaning to was the over when looking at it this week but never loved it enough to pull trigger. Now that time is here maybe just a half unit or something? Practically impossible for me to love a thu night play!!!
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If only this game was Sunday I’d have cleaned up on over instead of punk ass half unit. Thu scares me tho, rightfully so, utter garbage they make these guys play on short rest. I guess since nobody allowed to hit anyone and apparently nobody has any interest in playing d maybe it not that big a deal?
 
D-Woww said:
ugh, VK likes the giants too...am I gonna have to let those scrubs cost money again? haha, with both of u liking it and me seeing the angle, I might have to
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Giants picked up a OL Brown off waivers who was more than solid with then Rams before he got injured and lost his job. I would watch him this week and if he holds up that could be the boost Manning needs to know he has at least some protection to his right side.
 
I like the situation in this Cinci game.
Saints off an emotional win against the last unbeaten team in the league and their contender for the top spot in the NFC incl. a tight finish of their own making.
Now going on the road, outside for the dome team, hometeam off a bye.
Def. like cinci in some form. Either fullgame or half.
 
Also like NE going into the bye, not so much after the GB game and
Detroit to bounce back and keep it close.
 
Jhart2838 said:
Giants picked up a OL Brown off waivers who was more than solid with then Rams before he got injured and lost his job. I would watch him this week and if he holds up that could be the boost Manning needs to know he has at least some protection to his right side.
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with all due respect brotha, I don't think that an OL who a playoff team was ok with letting go is going to change their fortunes. we shall see though.
 
The Giants offense adjusted is 22nd overall 23rd both passing/rushing
The niners are 27th but I use an asterisk here cause of situation.. Shanahan is mcVay just a little lighter.

Niners 18th ranked D
Giants 26 th

Shanahan is a 1 or high 2 as coach

Giants is a 3, maybe sniffing low 2
 
Im paying to see Mullens win. I know the numbers favor SF per Johnny above but i also do believe in talent. SF cannot sniff nyg offensive talent (even if eli stinks and them under performing).

SF front 7 is solid is my main concern. Took nyg and TT
 
Huge coaching edge for Niners here.

Brieda should finally be 100%. And with him they are a different team. Sherman def needed the extended break.

9ers have their QB of the future. Giants need to keep losing games.
 
Inspekdah said:
Huge coaching edge for Niners here.

Brieda should finally be 100%. And with him they are a different team. Sherman def needed the extended break.

9ers have their QB of the future. Giants need to keep losing games.
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lol spek they're gonna cut Jimmy G? Sometimes i wonder if you're trolling
 
FWIW, there is only 1 ratio I really kind of pay attention to at SI. That's the % at Sportsbook to consider fading.

Tonight 2 out of 3 on Gmen.
 
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