Week 1 in the FCS

No Chadron St at Northern Colorado though. I;m pretty sure they did have a few Dll vs FCS last year?
 
FWIW I think Minnesota Mankato -105 ML is solid vs NW Missouri St in D2 on MYBookie. I think Massey uses past 3 years results too much. This game should be higher IMO.

I'm pretty much disenchanted with FBS now and my focus is on D2.
 
CPA-hole said:
FWIW I think Minnesota Mankato -105 ML is solid vs NW Missouri St in D2 on MYBookie. I think Massey uses past 3 years results too much. This game should be higher IMO.

I'm pretty much disenchanted with FBS now and my focus is on D2.
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I just took it, -106. SP+ has Minnesota State Mankato ranked 11th (19.2) and NW Missouri 46th (8.8). Although the reddit spread is NW Missouri -4. I didn't look at Massey on these
 
s--k said:
I just took it, -106. SP+ has Minnesota State Mankato ranked 11th (19.2) and NW Missouri 46th (8.8). Although the reddit spread is NW Missouri -4. I didn't look at Massey on these
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Massey has it like 1.5 for NWM. I don't see it, but we shall see. I thought it was good value on Mankato.
 
Dll football takes over the FCS thread - Good times! I like it. Have to go do some shit so I can obsess on football more later today.
 
s--k said:
Dll football takes over the FCS thread - Good times! I like it. Have to go do some shit so I can obsess on football more later today.
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I didn't mean to derail it. Just wanted to get that Mankato game posted. And since you're on MB I thought I'd chime in.
 
I do apologize, as New Haven is not currently being offered, as we are currently looking into this further. We do not have a timeframe, as to when this will be resolved further as this is throughout all sites on our end where it is not being offered further.
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I’m getting a little interested in Lafayette above 3 TDs. Continuity with their O (minus the RBs) vs the newness of BG D. Lafayette D is what worried me but they might score enough to hang with 3 TDs. Will continue to watch spread.
 
I think St. Francis looks decent. I admittedly know nothing about them but I’m watch g the entire game vs ULM.
 
twinkie13 said:
I think St. Francis looks decent. I admittedly know nothing about them but I’m watch g the entire game vs ULM.
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They have tradition of solid D and ULM certainly had to work for their points. How about the deep throw into the EZ with :30 left instead of running out the clock? Right through the guys hands. Mattered for some spreads.

Northwestern State is starting to fall apart. Back-to-back turnovers (including pick-six) got Alcorn back into the game
 
New season, new results.

Northwestern State goes 0-12 last year, longest losing streak in FCS. This year wins home opener 20-10 as 10.5pt dog vs Alcorn, the field is stormed. Alcorn QB was dreadfully awful, their only TD was a 72y pick-six.

St Thomas lost 64-0 at Lindenwood last year. They host them this year and win 35-13. Lindenwood was 1-5 TDs in the RZ, St Thomas was 5-6 TDs in the RZ.

Funny how things work sometimes, the weakest part of Lafayette's team would've been their D, yet that D kept BG O out of the EZ until the final minute of the 1H and limited them to just 265y 4.3ypp. The YSU D stood a chance to play better on paper vs the overmatched Mercyhurst, but normally it is the YSU D that struggles and the Penguin O that produces. Today, that YSU D did play well, but while the O did score TDs on 3 of their 4 1H possessions, it took them a lot of plays to do so and an occasional 4th down conversion. Penguin O was horrendous in the 2H. No good pass plays, RBs hardly did anything, it was all Brungard running here, there, everywhere - called runs, pulling it down on pass plays to run. Very disappointing offense vs the kind of D that Mercyhurst brings to the field.

Oklahoma St and Duke struggled to put away two teams that figure to be down in UT Martin and Elon until later in the game. Ok St starting QB was knocked out 1Q. Elon O might have some life with their new QB.

Houston D was keyed in, applied QB pressure and were all over the SFA receivers and routes, several INTs were dropped (they did get 2). Shame as SFA D really played their asses off, but SFA who figures to be among the best, if not the top O in the SLC was shutout.

Hello Andrew Body. Alabama State might flip the script this year with an explosive O, but a poor D. In a losing, but very competitive game vs UAB, Body had 300+ passing and 100+ rushing and 5 TDs total.

Towson did start their tFr QB Indorf (3 TD passes). Was just a 13-7 game in the 4Q, but Towson won 27-7. Carter only played 1Q and Kuhns went the rest of the way.

EIU's new QB LaCrue is a runner. 26att-193-3TD, 9-17-129-0-1 passing. Dayton started new QB too, Schondelmyer instead of VanVleet.

As we knew, Samford sucks!
 
Watched most of the Delaware State game and they have a couple playmakers on offense, we’re pretty feisty in terms of not rolling over when it looked like they were out of it, but man they are undisciplined and committed more than a few untimely penalties that killed momentum and/or big gains. Their defense is a work in progress and might get torched by any offense with a pulse.
 
Youngstown second half was painful to watch as it’s like they forgot how to play offense after halftime and as a result, so did the cover in that one. Mercyhurst was scrappy and competitive throughout but Youngstown was far superior on offense but decided to basically sleepwalk their way through the second half vs continuing to exert their dominance. Hard to watch at times…
 
Also watched EIU game and it wasn’t pretty for neither side offensively as the game didn’t have much of a flow to it. EIU defense played really well in my view outside of a couple plays and thankfully the offense woke up just enough in the second half to get the cover. EIU defense did a great job on that last drive as they played with high intensity and the crowd was solid at the end as well.
 
BGSU was the first “early line win” of the year as it closed around 20-21.5 so the early birds who got the 16.5 (like me) were able to cash on that one.

Alternatively, Okie State started around 22.5 (I got 21.5) and dropped as low as 17.5 before closing closer to 4 TDs, so if you timed that one right (I didn’t), you would have cashed on the 17.5-19.5 that was out there at points.

Two early examples of how getting the “right line” matters
 
Speaking of Oklahoma State…they could/should have scored 40+, but just couldn’t seem to get a flow going with the running game.

Watched most of it and UTM isn’t very good so hoping to get some value playing against them moving forward, based on the perception that they “hung tough”, as in my view it wasn’t anything UTM did but what Okie State didn’t do that kept this from being a lesser version of Mizzou vs CAU (that was a fun one for me to watch as everything was clicking early and often for Mizzou).
 
carolinablue said:
BGSU was the first “early line win” of the year as it closed around 20-21.5 so the early birds who got the 16.5 (like me) were able to cash on that one.

Alternatively, Okie State started around 22.5 (I got 21.5) and dropped as low as 17.5 before closing closer to 4 TDs, so if you timed that one right (I didn’t), you would have cashed on the 17.5-19.5 that was out there at points.

Two early examples of how getting the “right line” matters
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Same thing with ULM, opened at 23.5 at most places and got steamed to -31.
 
s--k said:
They have tradition of solid D and ULM certainly had to work for their points. How about the deep throw into the EZ with :30 left instead of running out the clock? Right through the guys hands. Mattered for some spreads.

Northwestern State is starting to fall apart. Back-to-back turnovers (including pick-six) got Alcorn back into the game
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Fuxking right it mattered for some. Almost looked like he dropped it on purpose
 
carolinablue said:
Youngstown second half was painful to watch as it’s like they forgot how to play offense after halftime and as a result, so did the cover in that one. Mercyhurst was scrappy and competitive throughout but Youngstown was far superior on offense but decided to basically sleepwalk their way through the second half vs continuing to exert their dominance. Hard to watch at times…
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The QB ran it 28 times. Have they ever heard of a thing called the forward pass?
 
carolinablue said:
Yeah good point… I wasn’t on it but that ending oh boy as I saw lines anywhere from 22.5-31.5
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I got it earlier in the week when we were talking about it 23.5 was 30.5 on FD

Like mentioned, WR dropped an easy TD for an everyone cover and boy, it was can of corn.
 
twinkie13 said:
Fuxking right it mattered for some. Almost looked like he dropped it on purpose
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Not many teams would throw that pass in the final seconds of the game though anyway! Would've thought that ULM would've been able to score more up to that point, slow 1H.

twinkie13 said:
Anyone watch Duke vs Elon? Curious how Mensah looked.
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I was in and out of several games so caught bits and pieces. He had a TD pass that was dropped (not his fault) and I think he missed a TD pass in the 1H. The Duke O didn't look good 1H. He got it going pretty good in the 2H.
 
carolinablue said:
Watched most of the Delaware State game and they have a couple playmakers on offense, we’re pretty feisty in terms of not rolling over when it looked like they were out of it, but man they are undisciplined and committed more than a few untimely penalties that killed momentum and/or big gains. Their defense is a work in progress and might get torched by any offense with a pulse.
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Thanks I did not watch any of this, but undisciplined is exactly what I would've guessed out of them.

carolinablue said:
Youngstown second half was painful to watch as it’s like they forgot how to play offense after halftime and as a result, so did the cover in that one. Mercyhurst was scrappy and competitive throughout but Youngstown was far superior on offense but decided to basically sleepwalk their way through the second half vs continuing to exert their dominance. Hard to watch at times…
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The QB ran it 28 times. Have they ever heard of a thing called the forward pass?
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YSU O was actually pathetic in play calling and execution and the 1H wasn't nearly as good as it seems like it was. The Mercyhurst D made YSU O work with difficulty on 2 of their 3 scoring drives in the 1H (both were 11 plays) there was only 1 big play on their first 2 scoring drives and it was a Brungard QB run around defenders he was a better athlete then. Their 3rd TD drive was a nice connection on a deep pass. Their 4th drive suffered from two offensive penalties when they were trying to get a final score before the 1H. So at HT, I was actually worried despite the 21-7 score. YSU lacked big plays and relied too often on 3rd and 4th down conversions...vs Mercyhurst of all teams! And the 2H was just pitiful. It's like they did not want to try any conventional run game, no RB carries. It was all Brungard. The announcers were questioning what was going on. This is Mercyhurst, you don't need to run your QB every play. The offense was supposed to expand under Yurcich, more downfield throws, make Brungard a better QB. When they weren't calling QB run, Brungard either wasn't confident in his reads or guys weren't open so he pulled it down and run. This is a very worrisome game for YSU's O. Their D did pretty well, but for some reason Mercyhurst tried to run a lot which was not going to be what works for them. In the 1H Urena looked pretty good passing. YSU secondary did a better job in the 2H. Mercyhurst's new OL held up pretty well and YSU generally lacked pressure with their front 4. Honestly, nothing that was assumed or expected to happen in that game looked like most people would've figured.
 
The only number we are waiting for today is Monmouth - Colgate.

Monmouth returned everyone on O except for their short yardage RB and for the transfer portal era, it is quite rare to have so many guys from that O that could've went into the portal, but they returned. The O should be really really good again. They did hit a rough patch last year, a 3 game stretch that they struggled, so this O was not completely unstoppable. The D was bad as most everyone knows. Their pass D was exceptionally bad and really the only players they return on D are in the secondary. Didn't bring a ton of transfers in, ironically a LB transfer they added is from Colgate.

Colgate has a new HC who went 45-5 at Dlll Cortland State! Surprisingly, Colgate really didn't lose a ton with the coaching change. OL takes the biggest hit with just 30 career starts back among 4 guys with 108 lost among their top 4 guys lost. Have some good receivers and an ok experienced QB. They lost one running QB but still have another they use. Personnel wise, DBs return 7 of top 8 and they return their production at the DE spot, but DT and LB looks like all new guys. 12 of their top 21 tkl'rs are back.

The draw here is obviously the Monmouth O 39ppg and 490ypg last year (D allowed 33.5 and 423). They were just 4-3 ATS as fav last year with the 3 losses being that stretch of Towson, URI and UNH (held to just 20.6 ppg in those). But earlier they did cover 15 and 15.5 vs Fordham and Bryant along with some smaller lines. This spread figures to be pretty big give what Monmouth O does and Colgate was bad last year (gave up 38+ 4x last year including 51 to Merrimack, 48 to Bucknell and 45 to Lehigh in the final 2 games). Sagarin and Massey had the number at 10/11.5. SP would be more like 20. I would take something around that 10/11 if it shows up and just hope the O can outscore whatever the D might allow. They certainly could and should win by 20+ pt margin, but not sure I'd want to actually lay that.
 
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Good Dll game! Lenoir Rhyne must've lost a lot in the portal? I recall seeing former players of there land at FCS schools.
 
I don't think I said much on Campbell-Rhode Island, that line has been out on FD for over 24 hours now.

URI just does not win by margin, as sleepy pointed out, they won no games by more than 17 last year (the line at that time was 17.5, currently 14.5). URI is being hyped out the ass this year to repeat as CAA champ (they shared it last year, I forget the reasoning, the stupid unbalanced schedule and how the CAA determined it, but Richmond was 8-0 and URI was 7-1 but URI got a banner).

Anyway, Campbell played here last year too, so back-to-back trips up there. URI won 21-9, but Campbell had 340-259 (4.3-4.9) yard edge. Campbell had the ball at the RI01 right before HT and they passed on a FG and went for the TD, failed and clock ran out. They were also SOD at the R14 later in the game and URI had a short field TD after a fumble. Campbell is down a couple really good receivers, but they have recruited well and return King who has a lot of potential, otherwise it is new guys. OL should be good enough, Chandler is back at QB after starting some last year and the RBs are fine. URI D is a little concerning in that they bring back one great player in AA LB Pena (transferred to Memphis, but then came back). Otherwise they lose about everyone else on D. Most people love URI this year because of their O and they hype Farrell at QB, but he was very inconsistent before being injured and missing half the year. 58% with a 11-8 ratio, he only had a positive TD-INT ratio in half the games he played. Dual threat. Really good receivers, have to replace a really productive RB, transfer Littleton from Temple/Maryland looks like leader there, and the OL is strong. So if Farrell improves then URI will have a better O this year. And they need it because their O was pretty underwhelming most of the season last year.

Definitely think there is some interest in Campbell for me even though their D has been a liability and could remain so. The total has been bet up from I think it was 51 or 52.5 to 55.5 currently, which makes sense, as both offenses should have success.
 
MaineEvent said:
Does Illinois want to cover, that is the question. If they do then -45 isn't too high lol
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I agree. I missed the open and wasn't too into playing where it ended up. And that has been my question, and maybe it doesn't matter, but I've been wondering all summer how Bielema would handle it. That is probably overthinking it as just normal game play with their 1st and then 2nd/3rd stringers should lead to scores on about every possession until the game slows down late 2H. WILL is very weak D. Might manage some O late in the game, so I had always preferred to take ILL 1H, but I don't see anyone offering it
 
s--k said:
The only number we are waiting for today is Monmouth - Colgate.

Monmouth returned everyone on O except for their short yardage RB and for the transfer portal era, it is quite rare to have so many guys from that O that could've went into the portal, but they returned. The O should be really really good again. They did hit a rough patch last year, a 3 game stretch that they struggled, so this O was not completely unstoppable. The D was bad as most everyone knows. Their pass D was exceptionally bad and really the only players they return on D are in the secondary. Didn't bring a ton of transfers in, ironically a LB transfer they added is from Colgate.

Colgate has a new HC who went 45-5 at Dlll Cortland State! Surprisingly, Colgate really didn't lose a ton with the coaching change. OL takes the biggest hit with just 30 career starts back among 4 guys with 108 lost among their top 4 guys lost. Have some good receivers and an ok experienced QB. They lost one running QB but still have another they use. Personnel wise, DBs return 7 of top 8 and they return their production at the DE spot, but DT and LB looks like all new guys. 12 of their top 21 tkl'rs are back.

The draw here is obviously the Monmouth O 39ppg and 490ypg last year (D allowed 33.5 and 423). They were just 4-3 ATS as fav last year with the 3 losses being that stretch of Towson, URI and UNH (held to just 20.6 ppg in those). But earlier they did cover 15 and 15.5 vs Fordham and Bryant along with some smaller lines. This spread figures to be pretty big give what Monmouth O does and Colgate was bad last year (gave up 38+ 4x last year including 51 to Merrimack, 48 to Bucknell and 45 to Lehigh in the final 2 games). Sagarin and Massey had the number at 10/11.5. SP would be more like 20. I would take something around that 10/11 if it shows up and just hope the O can outscore whatever the D might allow. They certainly could and should win by 20+ pt margin, but not sure I'd want to actually lay that.
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I am actually interested in the total as I might take a shot at the over in this one depending on the number. Any thoughts?
 
carolinablue said:
I am actually interested in the total as I might take a shot at the over in this one depending on the number. Any thoughts?
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Yeah, we know what Monmouth is capable of. Colgate should be able to score, not just because how bad the Monmouth D was, but in terms of QB and WRs they shoudl have some ability. WR Saunders was 1st Tm Patriot. All their top WRs are back. Stearney had a 11-13 ratio playing in a QB rotation. He set the Fr passing record with 360y vs Lehigh last year.
 
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My local uses scoresandodds, so maybe I can take 1H there. They say DK has the 1H line, but my account doesn't show it available there. Anyone else?
 
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I think this came out. @CPA-hole, you have intel on New Haven? Didn't bunch of their good players leave in the spring?
 
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