Week 1 Discussion...

emkee

The Truth Is Out There
Didn't see one, so will make this a one-stop shop for injuries/'late mail', Lang picks, trends yada yada

USA - NFL
[TABLE="class: odds-data, width: 750"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]17.30[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Carolina Panthers[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-179[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-3
-123​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 41.5
-110[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 41.5
+100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Denver Broncos[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+161[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+3
+111​
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]


USA - NFL
[TABLE="class: odds-data, width: 750"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Tampa Bay Buccaneers[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+130[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+3
-118​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 47.5
-105[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 47.5
-105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Atlanta Falcons[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-144[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-3
+107​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Minnesota Vikings[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-123[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-2
-105​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 41
-108[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 41
-102[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Tennessee Titans[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+111[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+2
-105​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Cleveland Browns[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+179[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+4
-105​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 41
-108[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 41
-102[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Philadelphia Eagles[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-199[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-4
-105​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Cincinnati Bengals[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-134[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-2.5
-110​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 41.5
-104[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 41.5
-106[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]New York Jets[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+121[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+2.5
-100​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Oakland Raiders[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+106[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+1
+100​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 51
-108[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 51
-102[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]New Orleans Saints[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-117[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-1
-110​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]San Diego Chargers[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+242[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+7
-119​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 44.5
-105[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 44.5
-105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-273[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-7
+108​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+153[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+3
+107​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 44.5
+100[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 44.5
-110[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Baltimore Ravens[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-170[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-3
-118​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Chicago Bears[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+231[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+6.5
-105​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 44
-102[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 44
-108[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Houston Texans[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-260[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-6.5
-105​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]10.00[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Green Bay Packers[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-216[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-4.5
-109​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 48
-103[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 48
-107[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Jacksonville Jaguars[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+193[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+4.5
-101​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]13.05[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Miami Dolphins[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+423[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+10.5
-113​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 44
-105[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 44
-105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Seattle Seahawks[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-500[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-10.5
+102​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]13.25[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]New York Giants[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]0
-102​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 46
+102[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 46
-113[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Dallas Cowboys[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]0
-108​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]13.25[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Detroit Lions[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+171[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+3.5
-103​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 51.5
+104[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 51.5
-115[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Indianapolis Colts[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-190[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-3.5
-107​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]17.30[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]New England Patriots[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+216[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+6
-105​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 47.5
-105[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 47.5
-105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Arizona Cardinals[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-242[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-6
-105​
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]


USA - NFL
[TABLE="class: odds-data, width: 750"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]16.10[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-160[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-3
-110​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 50
-105[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 50
-105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Washington Redskins[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+144[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+3
-100​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: divider ng-scope"]
[TD="colspan: 6, align: center"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-time ng-scope, bgcolor: transparent, align: center"]19.20[/TD]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]Los Angeles Rams[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-134[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-2.5
-113​
[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #E1E1E1, align: center"]Over 44
-106[/TD]
[TD="class: game-total oddTip ng-scope, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Under 44
-104[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: game-name name, bgcolor: transparent"]San Francisco 49ers[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+121[/TD]
[TD="class: oddTip game-handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+2.5
+102​
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]








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I'll start. Dallas w/o Romo and a rookie starter. They are not a great home team in the best times. Just think it's a bad spot and Giants should win. D-Line for Giants? Improved, yes?
 
Leans:

Carolina -3....revenge, especially for Cam, Denver coming back to earth this year (tho usually its the SB loser), Siemian crapping pants in 1st NFL start
Bucs +3....better team IMO getting points
Browns +4....think RG3 will have some success. Wentz first start laying more than 3?
SD +7....Rivers plays well in KC, very young secondary for KC now + Houston out so pass rush is a big ?....Chiefs by 3
Dallas PK.....Dak + Zeke coming out party IMO. Giants D should be better but I see a big start for Dallas O with easy early schedule ( @ Wash, v Chicago)
Texans -6.5....going to have them teased for sure. I have the Bears pegged as dog shit this year, 5-11 or so. Another team with new faces getting a hot start at home.
 
Home teams on a Thursday night in Week 1 have gone 12-1 SU (9-2-2 ATS) since 2002.

Doncos 24-3 SU in home openers since 1989.

Defending Super Bowl winners are 19-3 SU in home openers since 1994 also.
 
Great stats but QB change has to be rare if ever after winning SB

And home teams on Thur night week 1 are pretty much the SB winner

Personally hate that game and hope Donks win, but no
 
Leans:

Carolina -3....revenge, especially for Cam, Denver coming back to earth this year (tho usually its the SB loser), Siemian crapping pants in 1st NFL start
Bucs +3....better team IMO getting points
Browns +4....think RG3 will have some success. Wentz first start laying more than 3?
SD +7....Rivers plays well in KC, very young secondary for KC now + Houston out so pass rush is a big ?....Chiefs by 3
Dallas PK.....Dak + Zeke coming out party IMO. Giants D should be better but I see a big start for Dallas O with easy early schedule ( @ Wash, v Chicago)
Texans -6.5....going to have them teased for sure. I have the Bears pegged as dog shit this year, 5-11 or so. Another team with new faces getting a hot start at home.

and ML......this is a joke? Best play on the board IMO
 
i dont' understand the KC line...feels too easy to take the chargers, like i'm falling into a trap


like the Lions this week, not impressed w the Colts and the Lions can get pressure on Luck....like the Lions to possibly win
 
The Browns played their starters in Week 4 of the preseason and were badly outplayed by the 3rd string of the BEARS.

Cleveland is by far, the worst, team in football. It's missing a whole lot and is years away.
 
Cam vs. Trevor Siemian? I'll take the MVP of the league over an inexperienced QB. I don't care if they have home field advantage. Broncos do have a great defense but so do the Panthers. Square pick though.

I think UNDER needs to be looked at too.
 
Agree with the assessment on Cleveland above. I unfortunately took Phi -6 before the trade (would prefer the current line -4) but still expect Phi to handle them.
 
Cam vs. Trevor Siemian? I'll take the MVP of the league over an inexperienced QB. I don't care if they have home field advantage. Broncos do have a great defense but so do the Panthers. Square pick though.

I think UNDER needs to be looked at too.
looking at sacks over prop in this game.
 
Agree with the assessment on Cleveland above. I unfortunately took Phi -6 before the trade (would prefer the current line -4) but still expect Phi to handle them.
I know it's only pre-season but Wentz only saw 38 snaps in the NFL field in week 1 outside of practice. He's going to take some time to adjust to NFL game, speed and athleticism...and then there's chase daniels, coin flip of a game.
 
Chase Daniel is solid....he was 2-0 starting meaningful games for KC....decent legs/mobile too. Real surprised they aren't going with him for a few weeks at least.

I think Hue Jackson will have the Browns surprise a couple teams this year. 6 wins not impossible IMO though tough division.
 
Chase Daniel is solid....he was 2-0 starting meaningful games for KC....decent legs/mobile too. Real surprised they aren't going with him for a few weeks at least.

I think Hue Jackson will have the Browns surprise a couple teams this year. 6 wins not impossible IMO though tough division.

agree with Aplous regarding Chase Daniel.. Very solid but never has gotten a chance. Hard to feel sorry for him because he is making millions without the abuse to the body. Wish Vikings would sent a #2 to Philly for him instead of the #1 for Badfraud. Remember when Daniel was in New Orleans, Breese made the comment that if Daniel was in right situation he is a top 5 QB type talent. Right situation was in Minny IMO. Vikes will regret that deal for a long time.. Philly was big winner
 
Vegas appears to be inviting as much Carolina money as they can get... Feels like they are leading the squares to slaughter.. anyone else feel that way?
 
I agree on Daniel. I saw him with Skins too. I can't comprehend the Eagles not giving him a shot. I can't imagine Wentz being anywhere near ready day 1.
 
Vegas appears to be inviting as much Carolina money as they can get... Feels like they are leading the squares to slaughter.. anyone else feel that way?


that's what is happening.... but what else could they line this at?
 
the drop to -3, -105 is telling IMO...could easily just left it at -110 at 3 but that -105 will grab all the reduced vig guys also.. they want everyone on Car
 
I agree on Daniel. I saw him with Skins too. I can't comprehend the Eagles not giving him a shot. I can't imagine Wentz being anywhere near ready day 1.

I believe he sat out 4th pre-season game due to sore ribs. Between that possibly lingering, not much time at all playing in pre-season & first NFL start, this could be a very ugly offensive game. Browns & the points have my backing.
 
The Browns played their starters in Week 4 of the preseason and were badly outplayed by the 3rd string of the BEARS.

Cleveland is by far, the worst, team in football. It's missing a whole lot and is years away.

This is furthest from the truth.
Hue Jackson will surprise a lot of teams
 
you guys are giving WAAAAAY too much love to Daniel. Look, I like the guy. Great backup and its like having another coach on the team. But hes not a starter. Trust me you didnt want Minnesota trading for him. He basically IS shaun hill. both great bckups but not starter quality.
 
you guys are giving WAAAAAY too much love to Daniel. Look, I like the guy. Great backup and its like having another coach on the team. But hes not a starter. Trust me you didnt want Minnesota trading for him. He basically IS shaun hill. both great bckups but not starter quality.

Shaun Hill was better than Bradford when both were with the Rams
 
According to @CGTechnology_ sportsbooks in Las Vegas, there is 10 times more money bet on #Panthers than #Broncos for #NFLKickoff.
 
Vegas appears to be inviting as much Carolina money as they can get... Feels like they are leading the squares to slaughter.. anyone else feel that way?

Don't see it that way. People still believe in that Denver defense.

The 'un-juicing' of the current spread is a welcome sign, indicates Donco action.

Now the drop to 2.5 could be read a little differently.

Either way books are getting plenty of Donco money.

The steam usually fails in Week 1.
 
I know it's only pre-season but Wentz only saw 38 snaps in the NFL field in week 1 outside of practice. He's going to take some time to adjust to NFL game, speed and athleticism...and then there's chase daniels, coin flip of a game.

exactly....and what he saw at North Dakota gonna have him ready

Browns and ML
 
The water cooler guys all think Carolina is a lock. We're talking dangerous territory.

Also - friend of mine who hasn't made it to Week 2 with a balance in a betting league is all in on Panthers -3.
 
Either way books are getting plenty of Donco money.


love you emkee but that's just false

maybe a few locals in the west coast but nationwide not a chance in hell


i have a few buddies who look to take action with each other and they all want me to take their panthers wagers for $150 each lol


the line seems to be fair imo
 
Chase Daniel has proved that he's a durable, credible backup QB, and imo that's a bit more than the other guy has
 
too many question marks.... no way would i go near this game if it was on a full slate of games so im avoiding it now too

the over has a bit of my interest but i just cant do it ... the panthers defense isnt as good as it was last year and high altitude for a sea level team in the first full game of the season wont help matters...but i feel like the first week is usually very sloppy football.
 
Books cleaned up on the last 2 Denver games....v NE and v Car. Will I fall for it again? I want to see Trevor Siemian beat me lol.
 
too many question marks.... no way would i go near this game if it was on a full slate of games so im avoiding it now too

the over has a bit of my interest but i just cant do it ... the panthers defense isnt as good as it was last year and high altitude for a sea level team in the first full game of the season wont help matters...but i feel like the first week is usually very sloppy football.

Come on. 1st game of the season, you're allowed to take a gamble.

That's why we're degenerates.

Not worried about public this, public that.

Panthers are the better team, no way does $cam play as poorly as he did in the SB. He was half the reason they lost.
 
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