Wacky Wednesday

E.T.G.

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Figure maybe it was my titles that caused me the bad streak so we'll stay with the adjectives. Bottom line, I have to be smart today with these early games and not get down on myself if I lose them.

2:05..... Giants +131 / Brewers -141 / Over 8.5: No bet here, had Brewers last 2 nights and they cashed, now is not the time to get greedy. Brewers do kill LHP at home and Zito has not been consistent this yr. Brewers are 10-2 when Vargas pitches as well. Giants have now dropped 6 in a row? Brewers have won 8 of their last 9 games. Didn't look at the ump but I think this game goes over..Not touching a side, don't want to be a victim of the Giants and Zito getting off the shitter.

2:05.....Marlins +118 / WSux -128: Alright, had Mitre last start vs the Royals and dude gives up 6er, I guess at this point I will chalk that up as a bad start. I realize 5 of them came in the 6th and 7th inning but still he gave up 6er. I want to see lineups for this game if it is true that the WSux are even more banged up. Hamstring wise, I think Mitre has to be cool by now, he did go 6.1 last start and throw 88 pitches so I would think its alright. Both teams are 3-7 in their last 10 games but Florida is batting .291 in that span while WSux are batting .251. Mitre doesn't give up the long ball and he doesn't walk many batters which is good so the light hitting WhiteSux will have to earn their runs. WSux really didn't do much hitting outside of the first inning when they scored 4runs yesterday. They got 3hits from the 2nd inning on against Obermueller, Miller, Lindstrom, Benitez, and Gregg and batted .194 as a team in that game. Marlins have batted (.366), (.333), (.312), (.405) in their last 4 games so the bats are def there. Garland is a decent pitcher, not really dominant and he is hittable. Marlins are free swingers and an agressive team on offense so they could play into him a little bit. Garland is 3-3 w/ 3.36era at home, 8games, 56.1ip, 52h, 16bb, 24k. Sox are 4-9 when Garland pitches and the Marlins are 4-7 when Mitre pitches. Last 3 games, Garland is 1-1 w/ 2.53era, 21.1ip, 26h, 4bb, 11k. Currently lean to the Marlins +118

3:35....Reds +218 / A's -238 / RL -1.5 -127: Talk about juice on the RL huh. There is no other reasonable way to play this game unless you just take a shot with the Reds.. Alright well Haren has looked like the best pitcher in baseball this yr and that is pretty much it. Belisle is garbage but is 4-1 w/ 4.28era on the road this yr. He is 0-1 w/ 7.68era in his last 3 games. My problem here is that I don't believe in the A's offense 1 bit and they can make Belisle look decent today, which he is not. Haren has given up more than 2er only 1 time in 15 starts this yr, (3 vs. Yanks in April), every other game has been 2er or less, and 8 starts have been 1er or less, so that means most likely the A's have to get 4 runs to cover the RL here, which is doable. A's are 11-4 when Haren pitches and have covered the RL in 7 of his 15 starts this yr. Currently lean to the A's -1.5 -127.

3:40....Drays -110 / DBacks +100 / Under 8.5 -110:

DBacks game ended around 1:45am last night and this game is at 3:40, could be a little fatigure here on both sides. I don't like the under as much as I did last night since the number has dropped, DRay offense is real hot, the bullpens blow and the number is lower than I want by 1run..

Shields gave up 4er on 4hits and back to back homers in the first inning vs. the Rockies last start, he went on to pitch 6innings (shortest outting this yr) give up 6hits and 5er. That was Shields first loss of the season as well.

Shields Away = 3-1, 3.27era, 6g, 44ip, 34h, 7bb, 34k... Batters hitting .211 off him
Shields L3 = 2-1, 20.1ip, 16h, 3.98era, 2bb, 16k

Shields has 10 starts this yr out of 14 total with 3er or less and has gone further than 6ip in every start except the last one vs. the Rockies.

I am fully expecting him to bounce back here against a not so potent offense in Arizona for atleast 7ip.

Here is the rundown on Owings numbers wise.

Owings at Home = 2-1, 3.05era, 6g, 38.1ip, 37h, 12bb, 27k... Batters hitting .259 off him
Owings L3 = 1-0, 17ip, 20h, 3.18era, 5bb, 7k

Owings has given up 3er or less in 9 of his 10 starts this yr. Pretty impressive I must say.

The first 2 games in this series have gone Over. The last 5 games Arizona has played have gone Over, yet the 5 games before that went Under the total and they are 28-40-1 on the O/U this yr..Tampa has hit the over in 10 of their last 11 games but is 22-9-2 O/U on the road.

Shields is 7-6 O/U and Owings is 6-4 O/U.

Of course TB bullpen can blow this thing at anytime but if Shields can get through 7innings or more and Reyes comes in later, it should be alright. (I wrote that last night) Now that he has pitched 2inning-4er, I take it back, nothing is alright. Another reason for concern for the under is the way TB is hitting lately, .297 off RHP in their last 10, meanwhile the DBacks are hitting RHP around .215 and Shields pretty much dominated the DBacks last yr in his only career start vs. the DBacks. If Shields dominates the DBacks there is a lot of room for some runs for the under. If Owings dominates the DRays, this game should def hit under.

I am showing Martin Foster as the ump and he is 5-8 O/U this yr w/ 62.5% for strikes.

I personally think Shields bounces back here and gets the W, Arizona has a good home record (21-15) but they are a streaky bunch just like the DRays. It might have been different if the Rays were going for the sweep but the DBacks stole one last night and now its time to get owned again. TB has advantage with SP and offense and that is where I currently lean. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 
good stuff green. I do like the Fish, D-Rays/Under.

A's RL looks good but I am not a fan of juice on RLs either.

won't touch the brewers/giants as well. Haven't been following vargas for a while now but looks like he has started to pitch a little better than about a month ago but if you can figure out the giants, then you are probably the bets capper around.
 
Renew- Honestly I am starting to think the Brewers sweep them. Below are the lineups. Brewers are hot right now, they are home, they own LHP at home, they have the better offense, better bullpen, and I guess you can call the starting pitchers even at this point but I might even say Vargas is the better pitcher today and Zito is just a name.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(85,85,85)"><TD align=middle colSpan=3>Today's Lineups</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD width="10%">NO.</TD><TD width="45%">SAN FRANCISCO</TD><TD width="45%">MILWAUKEE</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1.</TD><TD>D. Roberts, CF</TD><TD>C. Hart, RF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>2.</TD><TD>R. Winn, LF</TD><TD>J. Hardy, SS</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>3.</TD><TD>R. Durham, 2B</TD><TD>R. Braun, 3B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>4.</TD><TD>R. Klesko, 1B</TD><TD>P. Fielder, 1B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>5.</TD><TD>B. Molina, C</TD><TD>B. Hall, CF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>6.</TD><TD>N. Schierholtz, RF</TD><TD>K. Mench, LF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>7.</TD><TD>P. Feliz, 3B</TD><TD>D. Miller, C</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>8.</TD><TD>K. Frandsen, SS</TD><TD>R. Weeks, 2B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>9.</TD><TD>B. Zito, P</TD><TD>C. Vargas, P</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Fish
Amezaga
Uggla
Ramirez
Cabrera
Willingham
Hermida
Boone
Carroll (recent call up)
Treanor

White Sox
Owens
Cintron
Konerko
A.J
Dye (DH)
Mackowiak
Fields
Terrero
Uribe
 
Renew - the highest BA in the WSux lineup is Fields with .261 and he only has 46 at bats so I don't even count that. Moving on its their big cleanup hitter, Pierzynski with a huge .255..

Mitre should be able to mow these fukers down all day
 
I wouldn't lay a lot on it just because Garland is actually pitching well, just not getting the run support but I'd rather play it than the brewers/giants game. If they can get Garland to only last 6, then I think it's a definite W for the Fish.
 
I wouldn't lay a lot on it just because Garland is actually pitching well, just not getting the run support but I'd rather play it than the brewers/giants game. If they can get Garland to only last 6, then I think it's a definite W for the Fish.


What would you play in the Brewer/ Giant game?



I am in for the Fish but I did feel the same as you because of Garland. Maybe the Under 9 is a better play, don't know but I am not scared of that Sox offense so Mitre better not be either.

Marlins $357.14 to Win $400
 
Haevn't tried this one in a while, I'll give it a shot with the Sox/Fish game. No runs scored first inning (-110) for a buck for some early afternoon action.
 
Is this game better than the Brewers game?


Well I feel more strongly about the Fish than I do a Brewer Sweep or the Over in that game. I mean, I just don't know what the Giants are going to do, my mind tells me lose on the road and stop overthinking it though.
 
Haevn't tried this one in a while, I'll give it a shot with the Sox/Fish game. No runs scored first inning (-110) for a buck for some early afternoon action.


:smiley_acbe:


Honestly I think it has a good shot
 
I've got no feel for that Giants/Brewers game.

I can't figure Zito or the Giants out, haven't paid enough attention to Vargas recently. I mean I except the Brewers to win because the Giants typically can't score runs but they do it when you least expect it.
 
ETG...I decided to take two games at -1 today:

Brewers -1 3.7 to win 3.7
Padres -1 3.8 to win 3.9

I also decided that I wouldn't put my trust in the BP's for the TB/AZ game so I'm playing U4.5 for 1st 5. I wrapped the O8.5 w/ Mil RL, and did the daily O9.5 on Det. I just keep going back to the well I guess...we'll see what happens.

Everyone talking up Fla is getting me interested in playing that also...I think I'll put 2 on the ML and see how that goes.

BOL today :cheers:
 
Shakes - Too funny.

BigRak - I mean really, can't say much about the Brewers -1, its possible they can sweep em'... Now the Padres I find interesting because Guthrie is a stud and has a 1.77era has a starter. He is a victim of run support but runs don't easily come against him, caution there. I agree not trusting the BP's for the TB/AZ game and that under 4.5 looks good, honestly. If Shields gets out of the first he should cruise and Owings should be able to keep the Rays under control. GL today
 
ETG...I know...I'm scared to death about both of those plays, but they in the books...for the plays at -1 I try to get them as close to even money as I can...Guthrie is the stud of the staff, but I went against him based on the current Bal turmoil.
 
Not quite. I won back what I lost in tennis. But hey, that's what I get for taking a dog in tennis.

Or you can just call yourself a Degenerate :smiley_acbe:


(i'm the one wit like 3,500 posts on a gambling website)
 
Whoa...when did this become a gambling website? I thought we just talked sports, looked at porn, and talked strategy to bang Ariane?
you're right, this is a sports investing site. So when you fade Maine because he looks like a clown, you're actually investing. :36_11_6:
 
the 7:00 games are real chalky, I am skipping the Tigers, don't want to lay 200 w/ CC, am not getting beat by Kuo again, think the Mets win.


Royals -115:

First off, I want to put out a FRAUD ALERT on Todd Wellemeyer. Here is a guy who is 2-0 on the yr, the Cards are 4-0 when he starts and he has started four straight games for them, he is a reliever otherwise. Let me just put the numbers out there.

2-0, 5.71era, 4g, 17.1ip, 22h, 11er, 11bb, 14k as a starter
Cards are 4-0 when he starts
He has a 1.71WHIP this yr and a 2.03 in his last 3 games
He sports and on base percentage of .387
He is 1-0, 5.84era, 12.1ip, 15h, 10bb, 11k in his last 3 games.
Cards have scored 15, 9, 4, 8 runs when he pitches.

Alright guys, at -115, Getting Meche vs. this guy who is due to explode, I am 90% sure this is 1 play for tonight. I have to eat dinner but everyone knows what Meche can do.

On the road: 1-2 w/ 1.66era, 6g, 38ip, 42h, 3hr, 10bb, 27k.

I pointed out the HR's because he has given up 8 at home, pretty significant different. He can't maintain that era but tonight he has to be good, not perfect. Royals should unload on this guy and if they don't I will continue to fade him until I get my money back. Those numbers are outright TERRIBLE.
 
Wellemeyer on short rest too.

Man, I stayed out yesterday, and my leans won. I go in today and I cant catch a break.
 
Shit...already hit the game O9.5 and TT O5.5 hard on the Tigers...think the Tigers still have a good shot to put a big number on the board
 
Shakes - Yes, thanks for pointing that out, yup he pitched Saturday..


Wellemeyer is a FRAUD, bottom line here. You can't put that many people on base and not give up monster numbers and keep winning games, it just doesn't work like that. A .387 on base percentage, thats crazy. A 2.03WHIP in his last 3 games? Cards have scored 36 runs in his 4 starts. If Meche got that kind of run support he would be undefeated. I will give the Cards credit though, they pull him quick because he runs his pitch count into the 80's after 3 innings.


BigRak - I backed off from the Tigers, I missed out on the -170 and the line was -185 when I logged back in. I just don't play that type of movement, I don't care if I am on it in the beginning but not the end of it. GL
 
Royals are 7-4 in their last 11, have won their last 3 series and get their ace on the mound. I am not scared of Wellemeyer and the Royals shouldn't be either. After Todd is done pitching 4innings, his bullpen is pitching another 5 and they are worse than the KC bullpen, who is actually pretty good.

Royals $550 to Win $478.26
 
Was waiting for someone on here to back the Royals. This is a HUGE pitching mismatch. I've had the opportunity to watch both of these pitchers several times this year. As many of you know, Wellemyer was with KC, but was released- and thats saying something. I watched him get bombed on several occasions. Meche, on the other hand, has been about as consistent as you can be- outside a 2-3 week stretch a month or so ago. You can usually pencil him in for about 7 innings and 3 runs or less. The guy has been worth every penny the Royals have paid for him so far.
On top of that, the Royals pen is much better than it was earlier in the year. They have a nice set up man in Soria and Dotel closing. Greinke has also been good of late. Also, Royals have had success in interleague play riding the hot bats of Emil Brown, Gordon, Teahen, etc. Cardinals lineup, outside of Pujols, does not scare me much at all. I know they have averaged a lot of runs recently (still trying to figure out how they scored all of those runs against Oakland), but I don't think that will continue tonight. They weren't able to get to Perez on Monday and got 5 runs off ELarton- who doesn't?- and then none after that.
Really like the Royals here -110. GL.
 
JROSE - I love the play to be 100% honest and its nice to see you chime in here. I must say that I was considering backing Meche at -130 so imo, I have a steal in terms of value. Wellemyer is 4ip an then the bullpen takes over and that is another disadvantage for the Cards. That run surge vs. Oakland caught me off guard as well but after backing those clowns on Monday and watching how miserable they looked, then last night they got 5 as you said off Elarton, big deal, my 15yr old baseball team could do that. IOnce again, I love this play. GL to US
 
Yep, really like it as well. I know anything can happen, but really like our chances here. Wellemyer has enjoyed great run support and is somehow 2-0 on 4 starts. That is unbelievable! Meche, on the other hand, hasn't received the run support. Pretty much we have the Royals ace pitching vs. a Royals bullpen reject.
Just checked the lineups and was a little disappointed to see Emil Brown not in the lineup. The guy has been hot and he does very well in interleague play. Probably will see him pinch hit at some point. That being said, I do like what Gathright brings to the table. The guy finds ways to get on base and once on, is a big threat to score. Also, it's good to have Buck in there from an offensive standpoint. LaRue, although fine defensively, just cannot hit this year for shit.
I forgot to mention, regarding the Cardinals, Chris Duncan is a nice bat, as well. Just strikes out too much. But he can definitely mash. GL.
 
I got Buck on my fantasy team, as far as catchers go, its a weak position offensively and he has done fine this yr. I know he hurt me Monday with the Homer. Duncan is a power bat but as long as you keep him in the park like you said, it should be alright and looking at Meche, LH batters don't mash him (2.51era) vs. RH batters at (3.44)

Wellemyer has gotten as lucky as you can get with 36 runs of support in 4 starts. Hopefully that shit ends tonight.

I considered the -1 play here but no time to get cute, I just have to win these games and I really do like my chances here.

Once again, GL and also GL to everyone tonight with your plays
 
Scorp - Hopefully it comes in, nice start for sure.

Renew - Nah couldn't bring myself to bet them, they owe me too much money and as of right now, that looks like a good decision.



Alright little game. Guess the Pitcher

Pitcher A:

Overall = 4-6, 4.19era, 72.1ip, 79h, 36er, 71k, 18bb, 10HR, .308obp, 1.25whip
Last 3 = 2-1, 3.06era, 17.2ip, 18h, 6er, 17k, 2bb, 4HR, .278obp, 1.13whip
Away = 1-4, 6.42era, 33.2ip, 43h, 24er, 32k, 9bb, 6HR, .355obp, 1.54whip

Pitcher B:

Overall = 5-7, 5.04era, 84ip, 90h, 47er, 65k, 31bb, 16HR, .339obp, 1.44whip
Last 3 = 1-1, 3.6era, 20ip, 18h, 8er, 17k, 4bb, 3HR, .280obp, 1.10whip
Home = 4-1, 2.41era, 41ip, 34h, 11er, 33k, 11bb, 3HR, .277obp, 1.10whip


If you guess Wandy Rodriguez for Pitcher B, you are wrong and lose $100.


Aight guys, seriously... Wandy on the road = bad....Ervin at home = good.

It spelled out for you right there. A major problem of Ervin's seems to be his HR's, he has given up 13 of them on the road this season but only 3 at home. Now I must admit, the Astros are tearing the cover off the ball right now and one can seriously say that they should have taken the first 2 games of this series, instead it is split and the last time the Angels lost a home series was on May 4-6 to the WhiteSux. Since then they have won home series vs Cleveland, Dodgers, Seattle, Baltimore, and Minnesota.

Bullpen advantage = Angels

Better pitcher because of the circumstances + better bullpen + dominant home team (24-10) + slightly better offense at the moment = Angels.

Wandy is a lefty and the Angels are hitting LHP at .396 in their last 10 games and .294 on the yr. Angels are 5-1 in their last 6 games vs. LHP as well.

If you need something else, the umpire, Hernandez is 10-4 for the home team this yr, tell me who he has money on huh?

Astros +163 / Angels -173:

In order to get some value I would have to do a -1 here but it is not an offical play yet, still thinking and waiting a little more, also want to watch a little more of the Royals game.
 
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