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Teapot9

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Spent the last 3 days (4 rounds of a golf) with a big UCLA booster (I verified through googling his name etc). He’s claiming that Chip Kelly has “checked out” from the job and really has no interest in being there and some of his off-season moves are proof of that. He’s of the belief that Kelly will either be fired or get bought out at the end of this season. He’s saying that Kelly is flip flopping all over in regards to what he wants to do this season and his recruiting has been horrendous.

Take that for what it’s worth.
 
Obvious question...why did he take the gig in the first place?
Great question... the source says he was excited about the opportunity to begin with.
He’s under the impression that Kelly doesn’t really know what he wants and since Oregon he’s been all over the map coaching wise.

Again, take that for what it’s worth.
 
He’s under the impression that Kelly doesn’t really know what he wants and since Oregon he’s been all over the map coaching wise.

Wack if true...he sounds like a teenage girl.

Worst part about it is that RIGHT NOW is the best window of opportunity UCLA will ever have for success given what's going on at SC.
 
what a crazy 2 decades for this guy. unknown OC at a D-2 school to renowned offensive genius revolutionizing the college game to NFL head coach to NFL playoffs, then it completely derails and his NFL coaching career becomes a disaster, gets a 2nd chance at a high profile NCAA school and now hes blowing that.
 
I read something in the past week or so - I think it was on twitter but can't recall who - that said Kelly wasn't a failure as a pro coach, as much of his stuff was incorporated by several NFL teams throughout the league, but that he was done in by what a terrible GM he was and the personnel decisions he made (paraphrasing). Thought that was an interesting take.
 
Its a pretty standard take he acquired players who made zero sense in his system like demarco murray
 
I read something in the past week or so - I think it was on twitter but can't recall who - that said Kelly wasn't a failure as a pro coach, as much of his stuff was incorporated by several NFL teams throughout the league, but that he was done in by what a terrible GM he was and the personnel decisions he made (paraphrasing). Thought that was an interesting take.

So as somebody who lived through this nightmare, I'll give you what is widely believed in Philadelphia to be the full story.

He actually turned down their initial offer but after reconsideration he came aboard.

First year was magic from the start. Vick got hurt but the offense crushed with Foles playing qb. really seemed like he was an offensive genius; he got major production out of Racist Riley Cooper for cryin out loud haha. Everything seemed great and let me tell you how much the city of Philly bought into this guy. My wife and I sent him an invitation to our wedding. He didn't come (in fairness they had a game the next day, but hey, the Arizona cardinals were staying at the hotel we got married at, so im more bitter that larry fitz didn't respond to my twitter invite). The Eagles unexpectedly made the playoffs and were a Cooper drop away from beating the Saints at home in the wild card round. I'll never forget that game.

Year 2 is remembered as the year it started to go downward for him, even though they went 10-6 which was the same as the previous year when all as well. The issue was they started 7-2 and then lost a bunch of games that they shouldn't have. Word started to get out that the players didn't like him. He had a very authoritative style of coaching and this is the year he demanded full power and became the teams GM too. He would treat NFL players the same way he treated college players. This is the year he CUT DESEAN FUCKING JACKSON in the preseason because he wasn't a "yes Mr. Chip Kelly sir!" type. For a minute or two, the city was convinced that this guy just needs his "type" of players. He literally had our entire city convinced that players buying into his mindset was more important than talent. Which is sheer insanity. As fans, the general feeling was immense disappointment, but 10-6 really should get you into the playoffs, so we chalked it up to a fluke and it would be better next year.

The next years is when it all went straight to hell. He trades McCoy before the season. So that makes DeSean and LeSean that he has gotten rid of. Because he thought he was so much of a genius that he could succeed without their talents because they weren't scared little puppies who acted as his beck and call. And he traded Foles for Bradford. I'll never forget how Bradford ran the offense in the 3rd preseason game; we all thought Chip had done it again and found a star who just needed to get out of St Louis. Turned out not so much.

Now this is where I disagree with the concept that he was a good NFL coach just a bad GM; everything that made him special just went away. The offense they ran in 2015 was the most vanilla thing I have ever seen. They weren't even trying to do any of the things that had worked in 2013. A lot of fans think that when Chip didn't get to trade up for Mariota, his QB from Oregon, he just checked out. It does seem like that. He was fired after week 16 and is now universally hated in Philly. But I absolutely know that he sucked not just as a GM, but as a coach after his first season and a half. It was the strangest thing, it was like he just stopped trying. And go figure, getting rid of talent ends up biting you in the ass

Something about this guy has always seemed off. Everything from the fact that a vast majority of players hated playing for him to the not unwarranted accusations of racism (we don't have to go there, it is very widely discussed in philly. but lets just say that there was nothing he hated more than a cocky show boat black player and nothing he loved more than a "gritty" white player who tried hard). He had told the city that hes never been married bc hes married to football and then it came out that he once had a wife that he never talked about and nobody knew about. Just an all in all weird guy.


Now I GUESS you can make the argument that he was one of the first coaches to bring college concepts to the NFL and that may be valid, but lets not give the guy too much credit. The offense he ran his last year in Philly and his only year in SF were about as basic as playing Madden on Rookie level.

In summation; fuck Chip Kelly.
 
Its a pretty standard take he acquired players who made zero sense in his system like demarco murray

this was such a brutal move. He cuts McCoy who was perfect for what he wants to do and gets Murray who was ridden into the ground the year before. Every idiot who ever played fantasy football knows that rbs who get as much work as he did in 2014 almost always have down years in their next season. And furthermore, to speak to his coaching, he would have Murray do these weird stretch runs to the outside that didn't fit his running style in the slightest. Over and over again. Its almost like he wanted Murray to be McCoy, he just didn't want to deal with McCoys cockiness. Man, that year may have been the most painful Eagles season to watch in my life. But in a weird way, it all led to Doug and Howie and Carson and the Super Bowl.
 
Looking back at it...how good was he really at Oregon?

He cheated to get recruits. Their recruiting was also aided by being the "Nike school" with the best facilities and the cool alternate uniforms. Nowadays every school has amazing facilities and alternate uniforms.

Chip out-athleted everyone in the PAC minus Stanford and routinely got their asses kicked on the big stage vs elite teams.

Chips biggest win at Oregon was against who?

Should we really be shocked if Chip can't replicate anywhere near the success he had at Oregon?
 
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Looking back at it...how good was he really at Oregon?

He cheated to get recruits. Their recruiting was also aided by being the "Nike school" with the best facilities and the cool alternate uniforms. Nowadays every school has amazing facilities and alternate uniforms.

Chip out-athleted everyone in the PAC minus Stanford and routinely got their asses kicked on the big stage vs elite teams.

Chips biggest win at Oregon was against who?

Should we really be shocked if Chip can't replicate anywhere near the success he had at Oregon?

he went 33-3 in the Pac 12 and went to 2 Rose Bowls, a Fiesta, and a title game, so yeah, i don't think we can rip on Chip for his performance at Ore-gone
 
so yeah, i don't think we can rip on Chip for his performance at Ore-gone

I'm not sure where I ripped his performance in my post.

Again, my main premise was "Should we really be shocked if Chip can't replicate anywhere near the success he had at Oregon?"
 
maybe you didn't rip his performance, but you did pose how good was he really.

Answer: Really damn good. Probably b/c of Frost tho.
 
maybe you didn't rip his performance, but you did pose how good was he really.

He was really good vs the PAC...not so much against anyone else.

And I think I posed some advantages he had at Oregon which suggest why the early returns at UCLA are not so good.
 
I'm not sure where I ripped his performance in my post.

Again, my main premise was "Should we really be shocked if Chip can't replicate anywhere near the success he had at Oregon?"

The answer is a resounding 'NO'; folks are much more likely 'to look the other way' in Eugene than they are in Westwood in my opinion.
 
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