Time to get on the Road to the Derby

My top pick is Java's War...last race was on synth but after being left at start and circling field was first 3 yo that wowed me this season.

Normandy Invasion also had a poor start in his last and was a hard charging 2nd, i'll also be using him.

Itsmyluckyday is now value in the Derby based off his last race and i'll have a little of him in exotics as well as Orb who i'll be using defensively due to the favorable pace setup he's expected to have.
 
Overanalyze is such an inconsistent runner. I have no clue what to think of that horse.
 
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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1101 Verrazano wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]12:00PM [/TD]

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[TD]1102 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1103 Orb wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]12:00PM [/TD]

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[TD]1104 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1105 Revolutionary wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_2" size="4"> +850 [/TD]

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[TD]12:00PM [/TD]

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[TD]1106 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1107 Goldencents wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]12:00PM [/TD]

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[TD]1108 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1109 Normandy Invasion wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1110 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1111 Overanalyze wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1112 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1113 Itsmyluckyday wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1114 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1115 Java's War wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1116 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1117 Vyjack wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1118 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1119 Palace Malice wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1120 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1121 Oxbow wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1122 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1123 Will Take Charge wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1124 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1125 Lines of Battle wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1126 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1127 Mylute wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1128 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1129 Black Onyx wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1130 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1131 Charming Kitten wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1132 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1133 Frac Daddy wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1134 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1135 Golden Soul wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_17" size="4"> +5500 [/TD]

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[TD]1136 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1137 Governor Charlie wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_18" size="4"> +5500 [/TD]

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[TD]1138 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1139 Power Broker wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1140 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1141 Title Contender wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1142 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]Wed 5/1[/TD]

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[TD]1143 Tiz A Minister wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1144 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1145 Winning Cause wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1146 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1147 Falling Sky wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1148 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1149 Code West wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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[TD]1150 Field wins Kentucky Derby[/TD]

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Hit Java's War @ +1650 yesterday, now down to +1000. Wanted to post this to kinda get an idea of what the odds do from now until saturday.
 
Black Onyx drew the dreaded 1 hole, which is good because he scared me a little as a viable longshot. Oxbow in the two spot should force Stevens to send him hard, which along with Giant Finish making the field should lead to a brisk pace.

The track was kind to early speed today, something to note as the week rolls on....
 
I know TVG does not show much at Churchill but does anyone know if HRTV shows the races on friday and saturday for the oaks and derby? Dont want to add these channels to my uverse package and then neither of them show the races during the day!
 
HRTV will show the full Churchill card friday and saturday.

http://www.hrtv.com/schedule/#track

Track Calendar

Friday, May 3
7:30am Churchill Downs - Full Card (Kentucky Oaks Day)
9:50am Calder - Full Card
10:05am Belmont Park - Full Card
10:10am Pimlico - Full Card
12:45pm Golden Gate Fields - Full Card
1:00pm Hollywood Park - Full Card
1:00pm Arlington Park - Full Card (Opening Day)
3:00pm Indiana Downs - Partial (1-5)
3:00pm Penn National - In Progress (3-5)
4:15pm Charles Town - Partial (1-2)

Saturday, May 4
6:00am Newmarket RC (UK) - Full Card
7:30am Churchill Downs - Full Card (Kentucky Derby Day)
9:45am Pimlico - Partial (1-5)
9:50am Calder - Full Card
10:05am Belmont Park - Full Card
10:15am Arlington Park - Full Card
11:00am Hollywood Park - Full Card
11:45am Golden Gate Fields - In Progress (4-end)
3:00pm Indiana Downs - In Progress (3-5)
3:00pm Penn National - In Progress (3-5)
4:15pm Charles Town - Partial (1-2)


 
Oaks thoughts: I'll prolly end up using a little of (8) Dreaming of Julia in multi-race wagers, but i think the value comes from (2) Midnight Lucky, (4) Unlimited Budget and (10) Close Hatches. I am way against and want no part of (3) Beholder.
 
Oaks thoughts: I'll prolly end up using a little of (8) Dreaming of Julia in multi-race wagers, but i think the value comes from (2) Midnight Lucky, (4) Unlimited Budget and (10) Close Hatches. I am way against and want no part of (3) Beholder.

Agree completely but will add Princess and Pure Fun for 3rd-4th.
 
Late pick 4 Oaks day races 8-11

3,9,11,14/6,7,8,9/4,5,6,9/2,8 $64

Backup dollar pick 3 (9-11): 6,7,8,9/4,5,6,9/4,11 $32
 
Late pick 4 Oaks day races 8-11

3,9,11,14/6,7,8,9/4,5,6,9/2,8 $64

Backup dollar pick 3 (9-11): 6,7,8,9/4,5,6,9/4,11 $32

Friendly start, Gomez rallies the 9 home at 7-1.

Track is playing fast and fair. You can gain in the stretch but first you need to be within hailing distance at the top of it.

Will be interesting to see if it changes tomorrow with some rain expected.
 
Oaks Day @ CD:

Pick 3

R9: 7,8
R10: 4
R11: 2,4,8,11

DD

R9: 7,8
R10: 4


more plays in a bit for later races
 
Usually i'll only spread like this in pk 3's and pk 4's, but this may end up being an overlay payout and both races are wide open. I don't want to get beat by being cheap and leaving out my of my contenders...esp at a price.

4x4 in Oaks/Derby DD

Oaks: 2,4,8,11
Derby: 5,12,16,19
 
Played Oaks/Woodford/Derby Pick 3 - 2,4,8,11/6,8,9/3,8,9,12,14,16

Hoping for at least one upset in the first two before the Derby.
 
Had the trifecta in race 9, but the 9 horse got DQed.

Pick 3 is still has a shot and I had added:

6,7,9,​WT,4,5,9,​WT,2,4,8,11

for 9-11
 
Narrowed the Derby to 3/4/5/9/12/16
Still deciding how I will play these.
Like Overanalyze and Orb best.
Itsmyluckyday best if its wet.
 
My choice for this years Kentucky Derby is...





#9 Overanalyze
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If the expected rain comes through then this 3yr old colt by Dixie Union will be awfully tough to beat. Overanalyze has a good resume, he is a
3 times graded stakes winner (Futurity, Remsen and Ark Derby G1) the only other 3 times graded stakes winner is Goldencents. So overanalyze is already a very accomplished colt. He should sit a good trip tracking leaders and then should make a swooping move right before the stretch, thats a move Bejarano does a lot. His Ark Derby win was won in a slow time but the pace was really slow almost 113 after 6f's.. He was 5 wide most of the way and picked off the horses one by one and closed on a slow pace.. He won the race pulling away and was impressive winning by 5 lengths. His final furlong time was 12 and 3. (12.72)

He breezed a 46 and 4 and all the clockers are quoted saying it was a very impressive work. Was a very easy impressive workout. I think Overanalyze is sitting on a big effort...

He has a lot of things I look for in a Derby horse. He has the two preps before the Derby angle, has a good 2yr old resume, he is battle tested, trainer who knows what he is doing, good breeding, good final workout and not a short price.

He is currently @ 20-1, I'm very happy with those odds.

#3 Revolutionary is my 2nd choice..

Has already proven that he can overcome adversity, has Borel and should love a wet track.

#16 Orb is my 3rd choice...
Everyone says he is doing well and he looked good winning the FLA Derby, style suits this race.. Good trainer, great jock. Definite contender..

#12 Itsmyluckyday is my 4th choice
..
Consistent horse who wasn't fully cranked in last, I think lucky will be in the money but I don't think he is good enough to win. Definitely use this one is gimmicks.

I'm wondering if #11 Lines of Battle is worth a little wager to win. Probably not and has a ton of history against him but still, hes a very nice horse.
 
Crap, the day was going well until Julia got broadsided out of the gate and Princess powered home against a meltdown pace. Moral of the story is no matter how accomplished they are, every horse can succumb to pace.
 
Will not be around on Saturday, but fwiw...

CD 5/4

Race #9: Im against the fav (8) Trinniberg, have a live longshot with (6) Pass the Dice and will also be using (5) Unbridled's Note.

Race #9 Pk 3: 5,6 maybe 9 (but will possibly duel early w/ #8)/8,9 can't see anything else/5,12,16,19

if i play pk 4's starting w/ Race #8: Hard to get pass 5 and 8, my longshot is #7 and possibly throw in #6


Derby: Win bets #5 and #19, and boxing exactas with 5,12,16,19


Bol fellas :shake:
 
Crap, the day was going well until Julia got broadsided out of the gate and Princess powered home against a meltdown pace. Moral of the story is no matter how accomplished they are, every horse can succumb to pace.
I didnt really care for the way the race was run. #2 way too fast up front...eliminating her chances, the trouble involving Julia...thought the other Pletcher filly sat a perfect trip, just didnt have it or have enough. Basically fast pace early, and no one made that big middle move that would have made for another great Oaks...then melt down like you said.

Get em on Derby Day, Gandy :cheers:


Have you been to Saratoga before? Pretty sure you have been, when was last time and when is next time? Also, what track... if any do you usally go to?
 
Will not be around on Saturday, but fwiw...

CD 5/4

Race #9: Im against the fav (8) Trinniberg, have a live longshot with (6) Pass the Dice and will also be using (5) Unbridled's Note.

Race #9 Pk 3: 5,6 maybe 9 (but will possibly duel early w/ #8)/8,9 can't see anything else/5,12,16,19

if i play pk 4's starting w/ Race #8: Hard to get pass 5 and 8, my longshot is #7 and possibly throw in #6


Derby: Win bets #5 and #19, and boxing exactas with 5,12,16,19


Bol fellas :shake:

Thanks for the Pick 3 thoughts. Heading out in a bit myself.

Race 9 I can't ignore Trinniberg, I did that at Breeders Cup and it bit me. Agree that the 6 has a shot if the pace melts the 8 and 9, also the 2 could contend on the cutback in distance and 7 is 2 for 4 at the distance and has the best late kick. Not sure what to do with Unbridled's Note, he's talented but I kinda like him better on grass. Class edge clearly belongs to 8 & 9. "A" horses - 8,9 "B" horses - 2,6,7

In the Woodford the whole world will be on Wise Dan and Point of Entry, and for good reason. Most of the rest of the field have similar running styles as well, so they'll have a hard time outclassing the 8 and 9. The best horse that goes against the early/presser running style is one-run closer Jeranimo (6), so I'll probably have a backup ticket with him. "A" - 8,9 "B" - 6

For the Derby its a question of how long the early big 3 of Goldencents, Verrazano and Itsmyluckyday can last. I'm trying to equate something to last year's race but IMO none of these 3 are quite up to Bodemeister's freakishness. Itsmyluckyday came maybe the closest in the Holy Bull, but has not been recently. Verrazano needs some respect given how well Pletcher had his fillies cranked yesterday (1-3-4 in the Oaks).

The track played against frontrunners yesterday, but who knows what it will play like with the weather. I'll have to watch the earlier races closely for clues. Two things I'm going to carry with me from the Oaks are class ratings and stretch kick. Here's how I break it down:

Early pace horses
Good class and stretch numbers - Verrazano, Itsmyluckyday, Goldencents
Good stretch numbers - Mylute (move up if off track), Vyjack

Mid-late horses
Good class and stretch numbers - Orb, Overanalyze, Normandy Invasion
Good stretch numbers - Java's War, Revolutionary (move up if off track), Charming Kitten
Mystery longshots - Lines of Battle (move up if off track), Golden Soul

If the track plays like it did yesterday I'll go 5, 9, 16 for the win.

If they seal the track then its 3, 12, 14 for the win.
 
Let's make it a big day Play2Win!

Actually I've never been to the Spa, but this summer I think I'll make the trip. Got a new grandkid to see in Northern NJ now, not far from I-87, only a 3 hour jaunt from there. Being a western PA guy the track options are slim, I mostly use ADW's or Meadows. Have been to Churchill, Belmont, Aqueduct, Parx, Penn National, Finger Lakes, Mountaineer, Charlestown and Delaware Park in my travels. Would recommend Delaware Park as a hidden gem.
 
BOL today Gandolf and Play, have really enjoyed reading your thoughts in this excellent thread.
 
@MPM0926:
Ex box 5, 9, 16
Tri 9, 16/3, 5, 9, 16/3, 5, 9, 14, 16, 19
Spr 9, 16/3, 9, 16/3, 6, 9, 16/3, 6, 9, 14, 16. #derbyday

my picks sure to go wrong......good luck....I like over analyze....
 
Here is mine. Just a $2 exacta.

May-04 CHU R11 2.00 USD EXA 5,12,14,16,19/3,5,12,14,15,16,19,20

Also took prop of Normandy Invasion over Mylute

GL everybody.
 
Thanks Timh. Turned out to be a dud of a day if you were trying to pick winners. I don't think you'll ever see a smaller collection of pick 3, 4 and 5 payouts out of a Derby:

50 cent Pick 3 = $18.50
50 cent Pick 4 = $89.70
50 cent Pick 5 = $325.10

The rain knocked Point of Entry out of the Woodford, eliminating much anticipated showdown with Wise Dan. Wise Dan is just a beast, highly competitive on any surface imaginable.

The Derby ended up going the route of the Oaks with a pretty big meltdown after Palace Malice set sub 23 & 46 fractions. About the only way to make a score was to sniff out Golden Soul as a potential win candidate. While it wasn't impossible to see him clunking up for 3rd or 4th, second place was a little too hard to imagine.
 
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