Time to discuss 2026 Futures...

B.A.R.

B.A.R.

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Seattle +800

LA Rams +900

Baltimore +1200

Buffalo +1200

Green Bay +1400

Kansas City +1400

Philadelphia +1400

LA Chargers +1400

Detroit +1600

New England +1600

San Francisco +1600

Jacksonville +1800

Chicago +2000

Denver +2000

Houston +2200

Cincinnati +2500

Dallas +3300

Tampa Bay +3500

Indianapolis +4000

NY Giants +4500

Washington +4500

Minnesota +5000

Carolina +5000

Pittsburgh +5000

Atlanta +6000

Cleveland +10,000

Las Vegas +10,000

New Orleans +10,000

Tennessee +10,000

Arizona +15,000

Miami +15,000

NY Jets +15,000
 
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B.A.R. said:
Seattle +800

LA Rams +900

Baltimore +1200

Buffalo +1200

Green Bay +1400

Kansas City +1400

Philadelphia +1400

LA Chargers +1400

Detroit +1600

New England +1600

San Francisco +1600

Jacksonville +1800

Chicago +2000

Denver +2000

Houston +2200

Cincinnati +2500

Dallas +3300

Tampa Bay +3500

Indianapolis +4000

NY Giants +4500

Washington +4500

Carolina +5000

Pittsburgh +5000

Atlanta +6000

Cleveland +10,000

Las Vegas +10,000

New Orleans +10,000

Tennessee +10,000

Arizona +15,000

Miami +15,000

NY Jets +15,000
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SB 61 Champ Minnesota missing. Lol
 
CPA-hole said:
SB 61 Champ Minnesota missing. Lol
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Sorry, I meant to count at the end to make sure I grabbed everyone.

They have some serious work to do on that OL first and foremost.

Much like my Lions.

Two teams that finished above.500 that had an incredibly tough time protecting their QBs.

I've said this about Detroit -- this particular March is the biggest free agency in the Brad Holmes/ Dan Campbell era. They have taken the approach the last few years of "we're mostly good with what we have". They simply cannot do that this year. Campbell admitted in December that they were not prepared for the retirement of Ragnow in June. I mean, he was only 29 then. Injuries were piling up though. He made a smart decision for his life.

So, Detroit needs to not only retool that OL but add some pass rushing to the defense.

Then, you have the safety situation. The Lions started last year with perhaps the best safety combo in the NFL. Now, Branch will be out 8-12 months. The latest I've seen is hoping for mid year. The quiet issue is Kerby Joseph. This one is full of speculation but pretty scary to be honest....

Here's a link about Kerby..

Latest speculation on Kerby Joseph's injury fuels doomsday scenario for the Lions Latest speculation on Kerby Joseph's injury fuels doomsday scenario for the Lions

So, the Lions needs in FA and the draft...

Rebuild the trenches!

Safety help

Depth everywhere

Second RB

I expect they let Monty go. Unfortunately, Campbell and company went away from the running game a lot last year. Yes, the OL wasn't like the 2023 and 2024 units but there was some mysterious stuff going on. Monty certainly wasn't happy and many of the fans were not either.

Might as well grab a backup QB as well. I'm still shocked #16 made it through the season without being knocked out.

So, I've sort of turned this into a Lions off-season discussion... And I DO expect them to be aggressive. I think they realize the window is getting smaller for some of these guys. The time to act is now. They go from having a top 3 hardest schedule to a pretty easy one next year. The playoffs should be a given. Now, let's build this team to sustain injuries and make a playoff run.

Back to the Vikings... That team somehow went 8-9 with just an awful OL and a murky QB situation all year. Pretty impressive. That's the coach. If they can build a legit OL this division will be right back to be the toughest in football.
 
Teapot9 said:
Chicago +2000 sexy AF
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No reason to bet that now.

The schedule goes from a 4th place to a 1st place level. That's significant.

They played 12 games this past season vs non playoff teams. In 2026, that number will decrease significantly. I believe that they'll have at least half their games vs opponents who played this January. Add in a team like Detroit (who beat the brakes off Chicago twice) and likely an improved Minnesota team and we're talking about a different path to the postseason.

So, I'm not saying to not invest here. My advice to is wait on the schedule first. Maybe it's top heavy? The value certainly goes up with a 2-2 or 3-4 type of start to the season. Bottom line, I think you'll see a better # at some point.
 
Addressing the Bears schedule is sort of how I look for my NFL futures -- via schedule -- at least when we're looking at this point in the year.

Now, if you think my Lions get the job done in free agency, I would bet them NOW. The fourth place schedule likely gets them out of the gates strong this season. I do believe they go in on winning this coming year. I've seen enough comments that indicate they know they need to invest in a few positions. So, grabbing 1500/1600 with Detroit right now is something I recommend (take that info how you would like).
 
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There are a few other teams I may invest in before Free Agency but I still need to handicap schedules a bit more.

This should be a very interesting March!

I believe these teams see how weak the AFC was (no great team this year) and want to take advantage of a lighter path). On to the flip, you have an aging Stafford as the only team that could have prevented Seattle from winning. The NFC has room for newcomer's as well. The league is there for the taking, let's see who wants it!!
 
B.A.R. said:
No reason to bet that now.

The schedule goes from a 4th place to a 1st place level. That's significant.

They played 12 games this past season vs non playoff teams. In 2026, that number will decrease significantly. I believe that they'll have at least half their games vs opponents who played this January. Add in a team like Detroit (who beat the brakes off Chicago twice) and likely an improved Minnesota team and we're talking about a different path to the postseason.

So, I'm not saying to not invest here. My advice to is wait on the schedule first. Maybe it's top heavy? The value certainly goes up with a 2-2 or 3-4 type of start to the season. Bottom line, I think you'll see a better # at some point.
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In your opinion @B.A.R. Which 3 teams do you see having the hardest schedule and easiest schedule? Like above. Chicago goes from 4th place to 1st place.
 
Has any team that traveled out of the United States during the season (London, Mexico, Etc.) ever won that seasons Superbowl?!
 
Number is not a huge value but I’m high on the Chargers.

People can hate on McDaniel, most of those guys on offense had career years under him. I think Ladd is going to have sick numbers. They shore up that line they’re going to be very tough.
 
Capaholic said:
Number is not a huge value but I’m high on the Chargers.

People can hate on McDaniel, most of those guys on offense had career years under him. I think Ladd is going to have sick numbers. They shore up that line they’re going to be very tough.
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I'm high on team Khakis N' Capris myself.
 
Baltimore
Detroit
Kansas City

I continue to wrongly believe the Ravens and Lions are very good and don't need much to get over the hump.

KC finally not having a long season and if they dump Kelce, I like their offense to improve a lot.

Incidentally the bengals at 2500 tells you they think they will be back in business next year. No value but it is telling imo.

steelers at 5000 the worst value on the board with the bad coaching change.
 
Capaholic said:
Number is not a huge value but I’m high on the Chargers.

People can hate on McDaniel, most of those guys on offense had career years under him. I think Ladd is going to have sick numbers. They shore up that line they’re going to be very tough.
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Chargers are definitely a bet. That's one schedule I'm working on right now.

Two years ago right now I said I'd be on Chargers futures in years 3/4 with JH at the helm and here we are. The odds makers agree with this low #. The injuries this past season derailed them a bit.

To be honest, they have been one year ahead of schedule each of the past two years. This definitely could be the SB year.
 
RetroRetrovk said:
Baltimore
Detroit
Kansas City

I continue to wrongly believe the Ravens and Lions are very good and don't need much to get over the hump.

KC finally not having a long season and if they dump Kelce, I like their offense to improve a lot.

Incidentally the bengals at 2500 tells you they think they will be back in business next year. No value but it is telling imo.

steelers at 5000 the worst value on the board with the bad coaching change.
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The question with the Bengals will be whether they invest in the important parts of the team or not? That's a wait n see for me. They've burned me before.
 
B.A.R. said:
As much as I love the McDaniels addition I also hate it seeing how public this team is now. I really wanted 2000 on them. To be honest, I'm already irritated with the public interest ;)
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Yep. They are too popular. I'd like to see what they are with a healthy Slater and Alt.
 
Vapster said:
In your opinion @B.A.R. Which 3 teams do you see having the hardest schedule and easiest schedule? Like above. Chicago goes from 4th place to 1st place.
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Well,

You can attach a SOS off previous seasons pretty easily but that doesn't account for player/coach movement and drafting.

We'll have a much better look in May with the schedule release. This past season the NFL absolutely murdered teams like KC and Detroit with how their schedules were laid out. I knew Detroit would go under their win total but kinda missed on how badly the NFL screwed KC.
 
Capaholic said:
Number is not a huge value but I’m high on the Chargers.

People can hate on McDaniel, most of those guys on offense had career years under him. I think Ladd is going to have sick numbers. They shore up that line they’re going to be very tough.
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First I've said in past that the books have adjusted futures down too much in recent years. Value is pretty much gone.

But agree with this. Chargers lost Slater all last season and Alt for much of it. These are 2 of the best OL in football. Plus sounds like they will move on from Bechtin. And Herbert broke his hand. Give JH a great OL and run game and I would guess Herbert has great year. With the tradional AFC powers like kc, balt down now is great opportunity. Losing Minter hurts. And odds should be higher of course.
 
B.A.R. said:
The question with the Bengals will be whether they invest in the important parts of the team or not? That's a wait n see for me. They've burned me before.
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Third place schedule helps them. Still can't buy that defense making them a great investment, it's takes a different kind of animal to be on the field as much as defenders have to be with someone like Burrow at QB who can score so quickly. Look back at the year the Greatest Show beat Tennessee when Warner was scoring so quickly, people don't realize the Rams were still a top 5 defense that season I believe and it obviously took all of that to win the SB.
 
Brewers888 said:
The Bengals seem to get Burrow killed every year with that offensive line being awful so no go on anything with that team.
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Yeah that too. Bad OL and bad defense usually doesn't bode well for success. Throw in shitty owner and it sounds familiar.
 
Brewers888 said:
The Bengals seem to get Burrow killed every year with that offensive line being awful so no go on anything with that team.
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Bingo.

Cap the trenches.

That's basically why I added Seattle in October. They had it!

You rarely saw me betting Detroit, Cincy, Vegas and Minnesota games this year. Why? Putrid o lines (just pointing out the 4 worst I can think of).
 
B.A.R. said:
Bingo.

Cap the trenches.

That's basically why I added Seattle in October. They had it!

You rarely saw me betting Detroit, Cincy, Vegas and Minnesota games this year. Why? Putrid o lines (just pointing out the 4 worst I can think of).
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lmao I know you're more familiar with the Leos than anyone on here but that's a helluva dig putting them in with those other 3 which might well be some of the worst in NFL history. SAN DIEGO injuries damn near made Herbert's career a stat as well in how his career wasn't ended.
 
KJ said:
lmao I know you're more familiar with the Leos than anyone on here but that's a helluva dig putting them in with those other 3 which might well be some of the worst in NFL history. SAN DIEGO injuries damn near made Herbert's career a stat as well in how his career wasn't ended.
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I should preface that with I wasn't involved with Detroit TTs etc like previous years.

They still were one of the highest scoring teams, DESPITE the OL injuries etc.

Pretty wild.

Goff was actually sensational when you look at it without blinders on.
 
Vapster said:
Has any team that traveled out of the United States during the season (London, Mexico, Etc.) ever won that seasons Superbowl?!
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Chiefs played in Germany in 2023 and won championship. Also played in Mexico in 2019 and won it all.

Giants in UK in 2007....
 
RetroRetrovk said:
Baltimore
Detroit
Kansas City

I continue to wrongly believe the Ravens and Lions are very good and don't need much to get over the hump.

KC finally not having a long season and if they dump Kelce, I like their offense to improve a lot.

Incidentally the bengals at 2500 tells you they think they will be back in business next year. No value but it is telling imo.

steelers at 5000 the worst value on the board with the bad coaching change.
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KC has really no ability to improve its roster. It’s beyond being over the cap. But I liked them last year to win it all. So I’m always wrong.
 
LAC and HOU best value in the AFC.

SF & GB in the NFC.

50% boost on futures on Fanatics puts both at 24 and 21-1 respectively. Both will be under 10/1 after Week 1.
 
Inspekdah said:
KC has really no ability to improve its roster. It’s beyond being over the cap. But I liked them last year to win it all. So I’m always wrong.
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Even then betting on the torn knee recovery makes no sense to me but I also hate futures
 
Chiefs still one of the best coached, best officiated teams and are good at both lines of scrimmage. They finally had a year where the breaks didn't go their way and instead of winning the close ones they lost the close ones but they have also had so many extended seasons that it was bound to happen and let's face it, they were getting everyone's best shot (I know, I know, it's professional football and they give their best every week). Mahomes will be fine. They lack quality WRs imo and I would dump kelce but otherwise they look very good. If I were betting futures, and I am not, it would be worth a few bucks just to make it lose or to buy more beer to drink it away after they win it.
 
Now this isn’t entirely accurate because team can cut and only eat the “dead money”. For example, just looking at SF alone, the cap number will likely be way above 50+ million after they move on from some guys and get Aiyuk off the books (less dead money - what a blessing for him to quit and give up 90 million basically). But it does help paint a picture as to who will be players, be able to retain their guys, etc.

 
RetroRetrovk said:
Chiefs still one of the best coached, best officiated teams and are good at both lines of scrimmage. They finally had a year where the breaks didn't go their way and instead of winning the close ones they lost the close ones but they have also had so many extended seasons that it was bound to happen and let's face it, they were getting everyone's best shot (I know, I know, it's professional football and they give their best every week). Mahomes will be fine. They lack quality WRs imo and I would dump kelce but otherwise they look very good. If I were betting futures, and I am not, it would be worth a few bucks just to make it lose or to buy more beer to drink it away after they win it.
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I just don't see how in a futures market you find value when it's priced as if he'll be 100%. I can't imagine it could do anything other than get worse if the recovery is less than perfect. They basically have to draft a RB because the others are gone and that's never an enviable position to be in. WR has proven to be a problem and w/o a playmaking TE what are they on offense? Kelce has to go and I think both sides know that but not like they have a replacement for even a 25% Kelce.
 
We're only 8 days past the start of this thread but I wanted to highlight some early movement...

LA Chargers are down to 1200... Ugh, I really hate they became public here. I was hoping we had one more year until that happened. Signing Mike to the coaching staff certainly brought a lot more attention.

The Rams and Seahawks both went down by slightly.

The Bears ROSE to 2800 as did the Bengals. That's a huge move on Chicago (previously 2000).

That being said, the Bears pale in comparison to Tampa Bay and the NY Giants!

Tampa is now 5000 (previously 3500) while New York is 6600 (previously 4500). Just, wild.
 
B.A.R. said:
Well,

You can attach a SOS off previous seasons pretty easily but that doesn't account for player/coach movement and drafting.

We'll have a much better look in May with the schedule release. This past season the NFL absolutely murdered teams like KC and Detroit with how their schedules were laid out. I knew Detroit would go under their win total but kinda missed on how badly the NFL screwed KC.
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Has the scheduling discrepancies always been this crazy? I don't remember it being the case and I think it's crazy if it continues. You're beating up your best teams all year and then you get left with the 8th best team in the super bowl.
 
cubsker said:
Has the scheduling discrepancies always been this crazy? I don't remember it being the case and I think it's crazy if it continues. You're beating up your best teams all year and then you get left with the 8th best team in the super bowl.
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For quite awhile it has been.

1978 I believe on a quick check.
 
cubsker said:
Has the scheduling discrepancies always been this crazy? I don't remember it being the case and I think it's crazy if it continues. You're beating up your best teams all year and then you get left with the 8th best team in the super bowl.
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This year I really exacerbated things in the AFC....

Why?

Injuries.

Plain weirdness.

The previous few years I think you'd be somewhat comfortable with the Ravens or Bills making it to the Super Bowl (if the chiefs weren't around).

This year the Patriots were a nice story. They'll be a contender for the foreseeable future with good drafting and free agency. That being said, they were WAY ahead of schedule. Not trying to rag on those who bet on them last week, but we all saw them live off turnovers in the playoffs (after the Wildcard). The regular season schedule was there to see as well.

Simply put, the AFC had no defense for their path to the SB.

Buffalo had trouble getting out of their own way. Their coach was not championship level. Injuries hurt other teams. Inept QB play in Houston cost them a game (they had a champ defense).

Washington was another example last year. They won 12 or so games honestly via gift schedule and damn good QB. Nice wildcard win and then faced a defense missing a bunch of starters in the playoffs. Thankfully Philly put them to rest.
 
Every year on average we flip half the playoff teams. Part of that is scheduling.

As much as 90% of this forum dislikes Kansas City -- they were dealt a brutal schedule this season! I didn't realize how bad it was till looking back. This wasn't so much the teams -- but how it was plotted out.

Playing both Thanksgiving and Christmas (Detroit as well had this scenario) on Thursdays is not ideal. Add in leaving North America to open up the season!
 
Miami vs the jets is going to be a must watch for those interested in who earns the number one pick in the 27 draft. While Miami is doing everything they can to be as bad as possible the jets have a secret weapon in Aaron Glenn who will win us the first pick in the 27 draft after failing so miserably and only getting the 2nd pick in a one QB draft.
 
I forgot to mention Arizona in the NFC West where winning even one divisional game will be extremely difficult is going to be another game competitor in this enchanting race to the bottom.
 
B.A.R. said:
We're only 8 days past the start of this thread but I wanted to highlight some early movement...

LA Chargers are down to 1200... Ugh, I really hate they became public here. I was hoping we had one more year until that happened. Signing Mike to the coaching staff certainly brought a lot more attention.

The Rams and Seahawks both went down by slightly.

The Bears ROSE to 2800 as did the Bengals. That's a huge move on Chicago (previously 2000).

That being said, the Bears pale in comparison to Tampa Bay and the NY Giants!

Tampa is now 5000 (previously 3500) while New York is 6600 (previously 4500). Just, wild.
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I understand lac move. Odds way to low though. But getting Slater and Alt back is going to be huge. And now add McDaniel. Losing Minter could be huge though. But really eager to see that offense next year. Do McDaniel and JH mesh??
 
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