The Supremes hear New Jersey sports betting case today

[TahoeLegend]

Too bad the Supremes don't allow TV cameras into the courtroom. It should be interesting today as New Jersey seeks the right to allow legalized sports betting in the state.

Ted Olson, former Solicitor General and a very find trial lawyer, will represent New Jersey so they are in good hands. No one can do a better job of conveying a logical, cohesive legal argument to the Supremes.

I think everyone knows it is just a matter of time until it is legalized and that there is no logical reason why it should be restricted. One positive aspect is that there is bipartisan support for legalization in congress. Just about the only negative is there are a couple of bible thumpers on the court, including the newest justice. The hope is he will put legal arguments ahead of moral judgement.

When sports betting is finally legalized Brent Musburger will deserve a hand. He is doing an excellent job of presenting the logical reasons for legalization in his TV and personal appearances.

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/i...d-know-new-jersey-gambling-supreme-court-case

 

[s--k]

I will read the link, thanks.

I imagine the Las Vegas - Nevada contingent is fighting this? They have a monopoly right now on the legal side of things making their destination as special and unique for those out of towners who want to come wager.

 

[s--k]

the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992 (PASPA) and pits New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie against the NCAA, NFL, NBA, NHL and Major League Baseball.

Didn't the NBA come out in support of legalized sport gambling? Thought their commish said something to that effect. And wasn't there a recent comment by a former MLB commish in favor of it?

 

[s--k]

NFL should be open arms for this, will help their falling ratings.

 

[Alan Tongue]

I will read the link, thanks.

I imagine the Las Vegas - Nevada contingent is fighting this? They have a monopoly right now on the legal side of things making their destination as special and unique for those out of towners who want to come wager.

They'd be for it. Sports is only a small percentage of their revenue. If this goes ahead they can expand this existing business. William Hill bought into Vegas for this very reason

 

[TahoeLegend]

You are right on the money, Alan Tongue. The established sports books wlll be the big winners once sports wagering becomes legal. Just like all the old line Vegas and Tahoe casino operators won big with Indian casinos.

William Hill and other operators are so sure it will become legal they have already built structure to house their sports books in New Jersey.

The NBA has already taken steps so they get a piece of the action and are ready to go the minute it is legal. The pro leagues are going to make a fortune and the players will all get a giant piece of the pie.

The NFL is the big hypocrite among pro leagues. They pretended fantasy league is not gambling and embraced it the minute the owners got a piece of the action and they will do the same with legalized sports betting, except they won't have to lie. They can just admit it's gambling.

Here's a excellent story summarizing how far the pro leagues and professional sports books have already gone to be ready.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21597720/nba-how-nba-preparing-cash-legalized-sports-betting

 

[ProV1Colt]

If this does pass, how long before other states start to fall in line?

Is it possible for someone to invest in a company that could install a "machine" similar to a lotto machine that could accept and print out a sports betting ticket. That company could strategically put machines around different "corner stores" or bars, and be able to place a bet and collect your winnings (up to a certain amount like winning a lotto ticket, say nothing over $500 or you have to go to the "main building")
With all the kiosk out there today, this should be very simple to do, I would think.
Hell, it's probably already out there, I just haven't seen it.
Wouldn't that be great though.......
Coming home from work, stop to fill up you car and/or grab some dinner...... while your waiting on your tank to fill, throw 20 on the game that night, grab your ticket. Win that game that night, cash in your ticket at the same place and pay for your gas the next week.

 

[KJ]

I'm moving

 

[ksimpsc]

If this does pass, how long before other states start to fall in line?

Is it possible for someone to invest in a company that could install a "machine" similar to a lotto machine that could accept and print out a sports betting ticket. That company could strategically put machines around different "corner stores" or bars, and be able to place a bet and collect your winnings (up to a certain amount like winning a lotto ticket, say nothing over $500 or you have to go to the "main building")
With all the kiosk out there today, this should be very simple to do, I would think.
Hell, it's probably already out there, I just haven't seen it.
Wouldn't that be great though.......
Coming home from work, stop to fill up you car and/or grab some dinner...... while your waiting on your tank to fill, throw 20 on the game that night, grab your ticket. Win that game that night, cash in your ticket at the same place and pay for your gas the next week.

It will require special legistlation for the machines. My understanding the particular case is about sports betting. IN SC for years there were the strings of local gas stations or convenience stores that would have the illegal machines in the back. There were some pretty hard regs thrown down on that.

 

[TahoeLegend]

The Brits have had legalized gambling for years and one of the most popular forms is kind of a combination of lottery and sports betting.

Each week people all over the Great Britain pick all the soccer games that week--the equivalent of about a 10-team parlay--and the best score wins the pool that week. The everyday person plays it kind of like the lottery in this country.

I never knew enough about soccer to play it when I was in England, but I can see something like that becoming a big part of legalized sports betting.

And I think handicapping contests--which I prefer to betting with the sports books--will become very popular.

 

[nbafan88]

next opportunity for a decision is may 14th.... there is more than a slight possibility that NJ might get to change its own state law and start offering legal wagering... without PAPSA being touched.... the leagues wont like this but the supreme court will do everything it can do without touching the constitution....

only a matter of weeks.....

 

[braves]

This needs a title change. Was confused how the Supremes have the authority to make this decision

 

[TahoeLegend]

The Supremes are deciding a simple constitutional issue--does the federal government have the power to give one state a monopoly on sports betting while telling all the other states they cannot allow it, no matter how badly they want to and no matter what the voters of the state want.

That's what the feds did, and now New Jersey has challenged the law as unconstitutional.

We should get a decision next week and all the legal experts expect the Supremes to rule it is unconstitutional for the feds to favor one state over others.

 

[Fondybadger]

 

[TahoeLegend]

Way to go, Supremes.

Legalized sports betting nationwide for any state that wants to offer it.

As has been the case lately the NFL had the dumbest comment on it. For years the NFL was the best run league on the planet. Lately they seem to be out of touch with reality.

Sports betting is BETTER for the integrity of the game, yet the league spokesman makes a statement asking congress to pass a new law because that is the only way to protect the integrigy. Makes no sense at all.

 

[VirginiaCavs]

Lmao