Texas vs Oklahoma

[Guidryacross]

HEy guys another game im looking at obviously is oklahoma vs texas. The spread on sportsbook.com right now is Texas -2, does anyone know what the max bet you can do for games right now on the site? I got into it with SHSUHORN being such a longhorn homer but, as a business call I see a great oppurtunity for a middle no way is the spread less then Texas -10. Im just curious what the MAX bet is on sportsbook im hoping its like a dime or so you can really make some good coin this way.

 

[SoonerBS]

HEy guys another game im looking at obviously is oklahoma vs texas. The spread on sportsbook.com right now is Texas -2, does anyone know what the max bet you can do for games right now on the site? I got into it with SHSUHORN being such a longhorn homer but, as a business call I see a great oppurtunity for a middle no way is the spread less then Texas -10. Im just curious what the MAX bet is on sportsbook im hoping its like a dime or so you can really make some good coin this way.

Wow! I'll take some Oklahoma +10 please.

 

[Guidryacross]

Listen I want oklahoma to win trust me i do but with out Bomar you think they can still hang? Im just trying to get a read on the game

 

[NickFazekas]

dude the game is in oklahoma right how in the fuck would texas even be favored? I dont give a shit if Bomar can only lead the cheer crew this is OU's game this year.

 

[RJ Esq]

dude the game is in oklahoma right how in the fuck would texas even be favored? I dont give a shit if Bomar can only lead the cheer crew this is OU's game this year.

Dude, where have you been the last 100+ years?

The game is neutral, at the Cotton Bowl, in Dallas. Stadium is split 50/50.

Texas will be favored with the loss of Bomar and OU's banged up OL.

Way too early to say Texas should be favored by up to 10. This is one of the fiercest rivalries in CFB. Last year, spread was over 10 but that is rare.

Texas -1 or -2 is probably a good bet right now but PT could surprise, there could be key injuries, etc.

 

[Guidryacross]

dude the game is in oklahoma right how in the fuck would texas even be favored? I dont give a shit if Bomar can only lead the cheer crew this is OU's game this year.

Ya guy game has never friggin changed always the cotton bowl. Even if spread is 7 or 8 i still think you jump at 2. If texas beats OSU no way spread is less then 8. Also Oklahoma has a tough one vs Oregon if they lose that one then spread will go up. Again I really do not like Texas at all im just saying there most likely gonna win.

 

[RockofGibraltar]

Even before the Bomar thing, I just don't understand why everyone is so crazy about this Oklahoma team. Yeah their schedule (Big12) is a joke this year but just take a look at their middle/late schedule last year.
-Only beat Baylor at home by 7 while allowing 30 points.
-Good win at Nebraska but still allowed a decent amount of points to them
-Only beat Texas A&M by 6 at home allowing 30 points
-Lost at Texas Tech: not that bad but still not impressive
- Good win against Ok St but that should be expected
- Barely beat an average Oregon team

I just don't see this incredibly dominant defense in their results last year and a team on the brink of national championship contention. I just believe theyre still one more year away and that was before they lose their starting QB a month before the season. When its all said and done I think they will have a great record in a shitty conference and will start looking more dominant towards the end of the year. This appears to be a gift of a line and I would imagine it jumps up to at least Texas -6, which I would love. Then again Oklahoma might go out and beat Oregon and Texas loses to Ohio State and we see a pick'em. I'd still take that line now though- I doubt my opinion changes much.

 

[SoonerBS]

Guys, unless you are part of the Oklahoma/Texas fanfare, you just can't understand this, BUT last year was one of the most "clear cut" years in the past 20 at knowing who was going to win SU! Whenever these two teams get together, it's a battle and very hard to determine the winner.

Like I said, last year we all pretty much knew who would win. This year is back to a coin toss type of year.

 

[SoonerBS]

RockofGibraltar, I promise you, I could contend with every point you made, but you're entitled to your opinion. Last year was a rebuilding year for Oklahoma -- you'll get no argument from me on that.

Instead of arguing tonight, I'll just say

to the site, and thanks for posting your thoughts.

 

[RJ Esq]

Last year was a rebuilding year for Oklahoma -- you'll get no argument from me on that.

OU sucks. You'll get no argument from me on that.

Seriously, though unless you've been a part of this game and have watched and lived it, you have no idea what this game means to the programs, teams, and fans of both teams.

For OU, if they win it means Dallas recruits and they won't have to rely on the small pool of Okie recruits. Otherwise they will suck.

For Texas, it's to prove that OU sucks. Simple as that.

:spank:

 

[SoonerBS]

OU sucks. You'll get no argument from me on that.

Seriously, though unless you've been a part of this game and have watched and lived it, you have no idea what this game means to the programs, teams, and fans of both teams.

For OU, if they win it means Dallas recruits and they won't have to rely on the small pool of Okie recruits. Otherwise they will suck.

For Texas, it's to prove that OU sucks. Simple as that.

:spank:

 

[RockofGibraltar]

Yeah I understand the intensity of the rivalry puts the game up in the air for anything to happen. My whole point is that when you evaluate it strictly on past performances, I think Oklahoma is being overrated in the sense that they were/are a national championship caliber team coming into the year. Obviously with the talent/coaching and the ease of schedule, they will be an upper echelon team as always but taking a second look at their results from last year leaves a lot to be desired even though everyone insists they finished so strongly. With that being said, I can't imagine getting a better line if you like Texas which I do and there is always the possibility of the line moving up and getting a decent hedge.

 

[Aztec4Life]

Rock - While I agree with some of your take on Oklahoma, I definitely do not agree that Oregon was an average team last year. That was a very quality win for the Sooners, IMO. Oregon had a damn good team last year, and they should be tough this year too. :shake:

 

[SHSUHorn]

rock, I couldn't agree with you more. I love OU's front seven but the secondary is still suspect. The offense is starting 7 sophmores and a QB who was playing WR last year. The OL is very suspect and has no depth.

Texas will win this game by 2 TDs.

 

[Guidryacross]

rock, I couldn't agree with you more. I love OU's front seven but the secondary is still suspect. The offense is starting 7 sophmores and a QB who was playing WR last year. The OL is very suspect and has no depth.

Texas will win this game by 2 TDs.

So the spread is still -2 i dont get how you dont play texas -2. I really believe that at game time spread is -10 at least. If texas beats OSU which they can and Oklahoma losing to Oregon which could easily happen then the spread will be 12. Thats a great middle bet right there and the value at 2 is way to good not to play. Horn you know the horns inside and out is there any possible way that Texas is not favored? I mean obviously injurys and such but hows the QB situation looking it seems really easy.

 

[RockofGibraltar]

Rock - While I agree with some of your take on Oklahoma, I definitely do not agree that Oregon was an average team last year. That was a very quality win for the Sooners, IMO. Oregon had a damn good team last year, and they should be tough this year too. :shake:

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Oregon has been my favorite team to bet on the last two years because they were always better than the lines reflected and I watched just about every game of theres so I know just how good they were. My observation was that they had the perfect team to go through that embarassment of a conference the Pac 10 was but if they were playing in the Big 10 or SEC, they'd just be slightly above average, especially without Clemens. Add to that how they were pissed to even be playing in that game and it was pretty clear Oklahoma should've been able to handle them. It was a good victory no doubt, but beating them by 3 doesn't have me calling them a national championship contender.

 

[SHSUHorn]

That Oregon team that faced OU was not the same team with Clemens at QB. When he was in the team avg 487 yards when he got hurt after game 7 the team avg 371 the next 5.

Leaf was the QB of the bowl game and he was the third string QB. OU would've not one that game if Clemens was in.

guidry, I already took Texas -1 vs OU and Oregon -1 vs OU as soon as news broke about Bomar. Also got OU under 10.5 wins at bodog.

 

[RJ Esq]

BON's Eval:

http://www.burntorangenation.com/story/2006/8/17/124948/212

 

[PURPLE & GOLD]

I think everyone is forgetting how much these Sooners earned cleaning cars this summer. They are in prime shape!

 

[SoonerKL]

Hey guess what fellas?

 

[RJ Esq]

Hey guess what fellas?

I'll bite: What?

 

[SoonerKL]

Yeah you guessed it.....

Texas still SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!! :moosefukin:

 

[RJ Esq]

Yeah, walked into that one.

October 7 cannot get here fast enough, Dirt Burglar.

 

[SoonerKL]

Can't wait myself RJ. The Sooners allowed Texsucks to have a dream season last year but now it will be back to normal with a Sooner win.

 

[RJ Esq]

Can't wait myself RJ. The Sooners allowed Texsucks to have a dream season last year but now it will be back to normal with a Sooner win.

Dude, you've been working too long in the meth lab. You're delusional.

:smiley_acbe:

 

[Pluto Brown]

Doesnt OU only have like seven OLmen on their entire roster? Whats the normal amount, 15-20? Theyve lost so much on the OLine. OUs entire OLine has something like a combined 10 starts over their entire careers. Theyre going to be relying heavily on 3-4 true freshmen to play a lot this season, and OL is probably the hardest position to not redshirt for. Adrian Peterson might be the best overall player in the country, but defenses are going to absolutely tee off on him this season. I'd be surprised if he came into this game 100% healthy. A successful offense BEGINS with the offensive line, and OUs OLine is absolutely screwed. I'll take Texas no matter what the line is.

 

[SoonerBS]

Doesnt OU only have like seven OLmen on their entire roster? Whats the normal amount, 15-20? Theyve lost so much on the OLine. OUs entire OLine has something like a combined 10 starts over their entire careers. Theyre going to be relying heavily on 3-4 true freshmen to play a lot this season, and OL is probably the hardest position to not redshirt for. Adrian Peterson might be the best overall player in the country, but defenses are going to absolutely tee off on him this season. I'd be surprised if he came into this game 100% healthy. A successful offense BEGINS with the offensive line, and OUs OLine is absolutely screwed. I'll take Texas no matter what the line is.

First of all,

to the forum.

Secondly, you need to go do a little more research because your facts are askewed. It is true that Oklahoma's offensive line cannot allow for too many injuries this season. It is not true that they only have 7 on the roster. They will not be starting any true freshmen. There are a couple of JUCO players and a couple of freshmen that could see some playing time this year though because of the injuries. The five guys that will start are all good, experienced players -- despite the news to the contrary that you guys get down in Texas.

 

[SHSUHorn]

Could you enlighten us down here in Texas with the 2-deep of OU's OL?

 

[Pluto Brown]

Thanks for the welcome, SoonerBS.

I didnt have anything in front of me and was kind of going all that off the top of my head. The main thing Im thinking of is the number of career starts by the entire OU OLine and the total number of scholarship players OU has on the OLine. Both numbers should have people that want to bet on OU very worried.

I also remember seeing a big cluster of something that read like OUs starting RG is also their back-up RT, OUs starting LT is also their back-up LG, etc.. It just seems like OU has an incredibly thin and inexperienced OLine.

 

[SoonerBS]

It is thin and inexperienced, Pluto.

Here's the roster:

Brandon Braxton Sophomore *
Jon Cooper Sophomore *
Duke Robinson Sophomore *
Brandon Walker Junior
Cameron Schact Sophomore
Chris Messner Senior *
Sherone Moore Jr *
Jessie White Freshman
Trent Williams Freshman
Curtis Bailey Freshman
Ben Baresi Freshman
Chase Beeler Freshman
Cory Brandon Freshman

* Denotes likely starters.

4 out of the 5 starters saw lots of playing time last season. The fifth one of them played on the JUCO level. As you can plainly see, we are only about 7 players deep before we have to start breaking some freshmen into the game. However, Duke and Braxton saw lots of playing time last year as true freshmen.

We're thin after the starting five. That's why I said we have to be healthy.

 

[SoonerBS]

Also, it's not like the coaching staffs don't realize where their weakness is. Look fo a lot of roll outs from Thompson to give the option of running or passing. Typically, linemen don't have to hold blocks as long for roll out type of play.

 

[Pluto Brown]

Well Im a big Texas fan but unlike the way I feel about aTm, I always like a competitive OU team. If OU can stay healthy they shouldnt be too bad on the OL.

 

[RJ Esq]

Well Im a big Texas fan but unlike the way I feel about aTm, I always like a competitive OU team. If OU can stay healthy they shouldnt be too bad on the OL.

OU will be fine. Which means a minimum of 2 losses if not 3 or 4. I think they will finish 8-3 before the bowl (losses to Oregon, Texas, and one other Big XII loss). I think they will end up back at the Holiday Bowl.

 

[SHSUHorn]

It is thin and inexperienced, Pluto.

Here's the roster:

Brandon Braxton Sophomore *
Jon Cooper Sophomore *
Duke Robinson Sophomore *
Brandon Walker Junior
Cameron Schact Sophomore
Chris Messner Senior *
Sherone Moore Jr *
Jessie White Freshman
Trent Williams Freshman
Curtis Bailey Freshman
Ben Baresi Freshman
Chase Beeler Freshman
Cory Brandon Freshman

* Denotes likely starters.

4 out of the 5 starters saw lots of playing time last season. The fifth one of them played on the JUCO level. As you can plainly see, we are only about 7 players deep before we have to start breaking some freshmen into the game. However, Duke and Braxton saw lots of playing time last year as true freshmen.

We're thin after the starting five. That's why I said we have to be healthy.

Scratch Camerin Schact off your list because he is yet ANOTHER lineman to quit the team. Jessie White also quit playing football because he couldn't recover from a serious injury. Also switch Walker and Moore as Walker is the starting G from what I'm hearing. Moore right now is the back-up at every position because he's the only one that can play against Big 12 DL right now.

Jon Cooper the starting C (only has 2 starts) broke his ankle in the Tech game and his ankle just hasn't been screwed right. He wan't cleared in the spring or summer to play and my OU source told me the kid is limping considerably in practice and it may be a lifetime injury. That means you might see a true frosh play C. Duke Robinson also put back on all the weight he lost over the spring that had everyone raving about him. Stoops was so pissed he was running him second team at times.

Yes the starting 5 is decent but we are talking 300 pound guys that need breathers. You must have a solid 7-8 OL IMO to have a great great line. Also experience is key and OU only has 2 OL on the entire team that has been in the program including redshirts for 3 years or more. Take into account Texas where 4 out of its 5 starters have been in the program for 4 years or more. 3 of the starters are coming into their 5th season.

I know I've been hard on the Sooners latey but even before Bomar I knew this was the big issue of the team. OL get hurt more then any other position on the field so this could be a long long year for Peterson.

 

[SoonerBS]

You know, something I can't understand is, as deep as we are on the defensive line, why doesn't Stoops move a couple of guys over to play offensive linemen? We shouldn't need them more than this season, so they can go back to defense next season.

 

[RJ Esq]

You know, something I can't understand is, as deep as we are on the defensive line, why doesn't Stoops move a couple of guys over to play offensive linemen? We shouldn't need them more than this season, so they can go back to defense next season.

That's my question. Must feel ok with what he has, I guess.

 

[SHSUHorn]

I know he's moved a couple of guys from the DL to the OL and they've been successful Jamal Brown was one.

 

[Pluto Brown]

Ive ALWAYS wondered why OU doesnt move some DL guys to the OL.

 

[SoonerBS]

Ive ALWAYS wondered why OU doesnt move some DL guys to the OL.

They had the opportunity to do it at the start of camp, too. I sure don't know why they could feel comfortable with their offensive line situation.