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Texans vs. Jets Thursday Night Football Picks: Houston Will Extend New York's Demise

Houston Texans vs. New York Jets
Thursday, October 31, 2024 at 8:15 p.m. ET at MetLife Stadium

The Jets Are Free-Falling


Right now, the Jets are an auto-fade.

They are suffering an 0-5 ATS run, and this run does not show signs of ending.

Regardless of the deceptive final score in their loss to Minnesota, four of these five ATS losses weren't close.

They lost as eight-point favorites to Denver, lost by six as 2.5-point underdogs to Minnesota, lost by three as a one-point underdog to Buffalo, lost by 22 as small favorites in Pittsburgh, and lost by three as seven-point favorites to New England.

While I will also discuss matchup factors that favor Houston in this game, the primary issue is that New York is a horrible mess of an organization that suffers from terrible ownership and a terrible coaching staff.

Players surely are aware of what Jets fans and I are aware of, and this demoralizing knowledge is likely causing them to underperform.

This knowledge will help elucidate why the Jets are underperforming so significantly relative to the odds and why one should expect them to continue to fail to cover spreads after people were so high on them heading into the season because of the high-profile names on their roster.

Losing Robert Saleh

New York fired head coach Robert Saleh after the Jets lost to Minnesota.

The Jets, under Saleh, were terrible offensively, and they were annual losers. This is true. Saleh does not deserve to be a head coach.

However, this mess of an organization let Saleh go without a good plan.

So, the Jets are suffering without Saleh and will continue to suffer without him because they still haven't fixed the issue that Saleh's departure is creating.

This issue is that the Jets now lack a good defensive mind.

When Robert Saleh was their head coach, the Jets' defense led the NFL or ranked top-three in advanced metrics like success rate, points per drive, and EPA per play.

Saleh was evidently a good defensive mind without whom the Jets have now been burned by Pittsburgh and New England, two teams that exceeded their points-per-game average by over ten points when they faced the Jets, in consecutive weeks.

Some Jets fans will want to push back and claim that I am not giving enough credit to Jeff Ulbrich, who was Saleh's defensive coordinator.

While Ulbrich might have contributed to the Jets' success on defense, he is now the interim head coach, so he has to worry about the whole team.

Tampa Bay and Seattle both have defensive-minded head coaches and are struggling on defense because a head coach cannot only focus on one side of the ball.

The takeaway here is that we have every reason to expect offenses to continue to score more points than they normally do, when they face the Jets.

New York's Defensive Decline

Run defense has been a problem for the Jets all season, starting with their season-opener loss to San Francisco.

Two weeks ago, the Steelers' rush attack performed much better than usual against New York. Most recently, New England's did perform poorly but still better than it had been in recent weeks.

New York has a below-average ranking in run defense.

But now subpar quarterbacks like Russell Wilson for the Steelers and Jacoby Brissett for the Patriots, wide receivers like George Pickens for the Steelers and little-known wide receivers like

Kayshon Boutte for New England are embarrassing New York's defense.

Guys like Sauce Gardner, reputed to be an elite cornerback, have regressed, as evident in his passer rating allowed.

Houston's Balanced Offense

The Texans have sufficient quality in both their ground game and pass attack to reach 30 points against the Jets.

For Houston, CJ Stroud is a highly efficient quarterback who is always capable of exceeding 300 yards in a given game.

Whereas New England's quarterbacks lack the deep ball prowess that Wilson showed when he torched the Jets' defense numerous times, Stroud loves to throw deep balls, which are a dangerous weapon for him.

Moreover, Joe Mixon has helped make Houston's rush attack vastly more efficient than it was last year.

Can New York Keep Pace?

The Jets have one of the least efficient rush attacks.

Their entire offense is poorly coached, starting with offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, whose lack of creativity, befuddling decisions, statistically evident lack of pre-snap motion, and otherwise archaic concepts limit the ceiling of a New York offense that has failed to exceed 24 points in a game all season.

Regarding their rush attack, their offensive line is doing a poor job blocking and their tight ends are doing an even poorer job. Running back Breece Hall has struggled for much of the year in terms of success rate.

Offensive line coach Keith Carter comes from Tennessee where, in his last season, the Titans' offensive line ranked last-place per PFF.

Hackett and Carter form a horrific coaching duo for the Jets' offense.

Houston's Pass Defense

Arguably, New York's pass attack has a higher ceiling than its rush attack because the latter is held back by poor blocking and because the former boasts its most well-reputed players, such as Garrett Wilson and Davante Adams.

New York's wide receivers are certainly talented. Aaron Rodgers, despite his flaring hamstring helping to restrict his mobility and thus forcing him to be a much more stationary quarterback than he was used to being in his days in Green Bay, can still play somewhat, although he is suffering the worst season of his career, as measured by passer rating.

However, Houston owns the third-best pass defense.

The Texans boast great cornerbacks with which to counter New York's strength at wide receiver.

For Houston, Derek Stingley Jr. and Kamari Lassiter do a fantastic job of limiting the opposing quarterback's completion percentage and passer rating when they are targeted.

Teams are, with relative rarity, having to stack the box against New York's rather inept rush attack, which means that they can devote plenty of resources to stopping the Jets' pass attack.

Houston, with the coverage abilities of its cornerbacks, is in a great position on defense to make the Jets struggle to reach double digits.

Takeaway

The poorly coached and underperforming Jets do not stand a chance against a competent team like Houston.

Houston has the pass attack to hurt New York's defense where it is struggling a lot right now thanks to the likes of Gardner's decline.

Joe Mixon is also helping to advance Houston's offense with his efficient running, which he can continue against the Jets' repeatedly problematic run defense.

The Texans have the quality in its pass defense to take away New York's best chances of succeeding — Rodgers had strong passing numbers in both of his team's victories but suffers a poor outlook against Houston's highly-ranked pass defense.

New York is struggling — failing to beat even the worst teams — and will continue to struggle for the above coaching- and matchup-related reasons.

Best Bet: Texans pk at -110 with BetOnline
 
Saleh should have been fired two years ago actually he should never have been hired in the first place.

Todd Downing the former OC of the pitiful Vrabel offenses in Tennessee is now calling the plays and he sucks almost as much as Hackett. The Jets offense is basically being coached by the Vrabel Titans staff which is disgusting.

Just putting this out there as many Jets fans are excited by the potential hire of Vrabel but I will go on an epic rant if this team hires him or any other defensive coach that is as clueless as Vrabel is regarding offense.
 
This game a pick? 😂 I know you tired if writing bout these bums but this like a layup for a winner! If jets wernt such broken trash I’d say the dline could cause problems but Texans d will eat and this could easily be the game they pack it in and lose by 50!!

Think I heard double bitch say the offense needs to score 30 to win, hey guy, before you showed up and got coached fired the d was really good now you taking shots at them?!!?? Is there a “leadership for dummies” book this guy could read?
 
Saleh should have been fired two years ago actually he should never have been hired in the first place.

Todd Downing the former OC of the pitiful Vrabel offenses in Tennessee is now calling the plays and he sucks almost as much as Hackett. The Jets offense is basically being coached by the Vrabel Titans staff which is disgusting.

Just putting this out there as many Jets fans are excited by the potential hire of Vrabel but I will go on an epic rant if this team hires him or any other defensive coach that is as clueless as Vrabel is regarding offense.

Vrabel would be a great hire but find it hard to believes he would take this job. He a culture builder. Ya’ll don’t need an offensive genius, or any other x and o type, ya’ll need a real man who commands respect and builds culture! Winning football starts with culture, after that you can figure the offense out. Those titans teams with an awful qb were pretty damn good!
 
We all know salah not a head coach but you spot on the only unit on that team that played well and with heart was his d. Now Rodgers pointing fingers at them. He is an all timer when it comes to deflecting blame tho!
 
We all know salah not a head coach but you spot on the only unit on that team that played well and with heart was his d. Now Rodgers pointing fingers at them. He is an all timer when it comes to deflecting blame tho!
Reminds me of Big Ben blaming his wide receivers. It‘s just so toxic and nobody plays well in a toxic environment
 
Reminds me of Big Ben blaming his wide receivers. It‘s just so toxic and nobody plays well in a toxic environment

Good comparison, he def had some Rodgers bad qualities, his saving grace was at least he was a guy the other guys would like to go to bar and drink with. Nobody trying to hang with double bitch after the game, not that he would want to reduce himself to hanging out with those he views below them: wonder why he only has one ring and so many former teammates have very little good to say bout him? You can’t find anyone who would say any the shit guys say bout Rodgers about Peyton, Brady, Elway, Marino. Rodgers just doesn’t have the skill set or personality to lead men.
 
This game a pick? 😂 I know you tired if writing bout these bums but this like a layup for a winner! If jets wernt such broken trash I’d say the dline could cause problems but Texans d will eat and this could easily be the game they pack it in and lose by 50!!

Think I heard double bitch say the offense needs to score 30 to win, hey guy, before you showed up and got coached fired the d was really good now you taking shots at them?!!?? Is there a “leadership for dummies” book this guy could read?
Saleh has a record of 20-36 so no Rodgers did not get him fired.
 
Vrabel would be a great hire but find it hard to believes he would take this job. He a culture builder. Ya’ll don’t need an offensive genius, or any other x and o type, ya’ll need a real man who commands respect and builds culture! Winning football starts with culture, after that you can figure the offense out. Those titans teams with an awful qb were pretty damn good!
Not interested in him or any other defensive coaches. The Jets have not had a good offense for nearly the entire century and the one common denominator is all defensive coaches. Give me a coach that knows offense and can develop a QB and if that doesn't work out so be it.
 
Not interested in him or any other defensive coaches. The Jets have not had a good offense for nearly the entire century and the one common denominator is all defensive coaches. Give me a coach that knows offense and can develop a QB and if that doesn't work out so be it.

That idiot Peyton manning endorsed didn’t do very well, building a culture should be priority one, doesn’t matter what side the ball, a good dc who qualified to be HC would bring in good offensive coaches. Culture needs fixed before anything else. None this matters tho, cause they have a 10 year plan of not sniffing playoffs
 
We all know salah not a head coach but you spot on the only unit on that team that played well and with heart was his d. Now Rodgers pointing fingers at them. He is an all timer when it comes to deflecting blame tho!
The defense is and has been overrated for years. Teams play conservatvely knowing they don't have to score much to beat a team that rarely scores 20. The game winning drive yesterday said it all about this defense; no big time defense lets Brissett go down the field for a winning score.
 
Reminds me of Big Ben blaming his wide receivers. It‘s just so toxic and nobody plays well in a toxic environment
Yeah the Steelers only won two Super Bowls with Ben as their QB. Have you ever seen Brady tearing his receivers apart on the sideline because it happened many times.
 
Good comparison, he def had some Rodgers bad qualities, his saving grace was at least he was a guy the other guys would like to go to bar and drink with. Nobody trying to hang with double bitch after the game, not that he would want to reduce himself to hanging out with those he views below them: wonder why he only has one ring and so many former teammates have very little good to say bout him? You can’t find anyone who would say any the shit guys say bout Rodgers about Peyton, Brady, Elway, Marino. Rodgers just doesn’t have the skill set or personality to lead men.
It's because he learned under another all-timer for so many years
 
That idiot Peyton manning endorsed didn’t do very well, building a culture should be priority one, doesn’t matter what side the ball, a good dc who qualified to be HC would bring in good offensive coaches. Culture needs fixed before anything else. None this matters tho, cause they have a 10 year plan of not sniffing playoffs
Peyton has it in for the Jets for not committing to drafting him after his junior season at Tennessee. As for Gase he gets no credit for coaching Manning at the end of his career and he had already failed as the head coach with Miami before the Jets stupidly hired him.
 
If Rodgers is this awful guy that teammates hate so much why was Davante so excited to get traded into this mess. As usual the QB gets all the credit when a team wins and all the blame when they suck like the Jets do but I'll take the side of a hall of famer and not put it on him that the worst organization in the NFL continues to lose.
 
They were 7 point favs yesterday, somehow byu were dogs to ucf on Saturday! I gave up
Trying to read into lines long ago as it a total exercise in futility for me.
Yeah that BYU line was fishy as hell.

It's very early in the week obviously but the derived market line is Houston -2 (-2.04). The Superbook opened Houston/Jets PK and it's currently Jets -1 at Circa. I doubt the Jets stay as short chalk because Houston will probably be bet heavy during the week but as of now the line is telling to me. Other reasoning could be the books don't have much respect for the Texans.
 
Yeah that BYU line was fishy as hell.

It's very early in the week obviously but the derived market line is Houston -2 (-2.04). The Superbook opened Houston/Jets PK and it's currently Jets -1 at Circa. I doubt the Jets stay as short chalk because Houston will probably be bet heavy during the week but as of now the line is telling to me. Other reasoning could be the books don't have much respect for the Texans.

Feel like jets still being lined based of their personnel more than reality of how bad a team they are. Every week I have dumb ass friends still buying them. So maybe it not hurting books? Beats me. I think Houston has flaws, especially without Nico but I just can’t see them losing to these guys. Such better leadership in Texas.
 
Yeah that BYU line was fishy as hell.

It's very early in the week obviously but the derived market line is Houston -2 (-2.04). The Superbook opened Houston/Jets PK and it's currently Jets -1 at Circa. I doubt the Jets stay as short chalk because Houston will probably be bet heavy during the week but as of now the line is telling to me. Other reasoning could be the books don't have much respect for the Texans.

Did diggs suffer bad injury? I just heard that on radio in car. Houston getting super thin at wr if true
 
Yeah I think he's out for the year but the lookahead line was around where it is now.

They don’t really price injuries in a way that makes sense to me. Saying pretty much everyone good outside qb worth like a point is stuoid, especially when you start talking bout cluster injuries to one position
 
Jets now -1.5 @ Circa.

Houston is really thin at wr and a short week, it makes sense, but when you factor in the loser factor im pretty much to point w Jessi was browns. Wouldn’t browns til Watson got hurt or benched, dunno when I’ll be able to bring myself to bet jets. I’ll prob prob hunt or look at under.
 
I remember thinking it might be some sort of tell that Jags became favored vs Chicago or Tits vs Colts. Like Bank said it’s pointless to try to read lines. Not like Stroud seeing line movement and being like aw damn we‘re gonna lose
 
I remember thinking it might be some sort of tell that Jags became favored vs Chicago or Tits vs Colts. Like Bank said it’s pointless to try to read lines. Not like Stroud seeing line movement and being like aw damn we‘re gonna lose
I agree about reading too much into the lines but FWIW the market thinks this line should be Hou -2 and the book line is NYJ -1.5.
 
I agree about reading too much into the lines but FWIW the market thinks this line should be Hou -2 and the book line is NYJ -1.5.
Yeah oddsmakers are taking a stand on this one win or lose, no other way to explain it. Thing with NFL is there are plenty of games to make it back on the weekend

Don't underestimate some Halloween voodoo type shit on Thursday night either
 
Even though this has been said a few times the last week or two this is a must win for the Jets. They're already 4 games out in the division with one Buff loss already. The line is just very strange to me, comparing it to the market. Houston isn't a top tier team and that line shows that.
 
Even though this has been said a few times the last week or two this is a must win for the Jets. They're already 4 games out in the division with one Buff loss already. The line is just very strange to me, comparing it to the market. Houston isn't a top tier team and that line shows that.
i'll be on the jets. I like to bet on teams when they reach a crises point - and i believe this is finally it. of course i was betting the jets the weeks prior to this one as well. This week feels different tho.
 
Even though this has been said a few times the last week or two this is a must win for the Jets. They're already 4 games out in the division with one Buff loss already. The line is just very strange to me, comparing it to the market. Houston isn't a top tier team and that line shows that.
They lost to a high school level roster in New England so I would say the must win talk is over.
 
Even though this has been said a few times the last week or two this is a must win for the Jets. They're already 4 games out in the division with one Buff loss already. The line is just very strange to me, comparing it to the market. Houston isn't a top tier team and that line shows that.

What tier are they? Missing their best wr id agree but with Nico I don’t think there more than 3 teams better in afc. And while it was ugly and bills terrible coaching handed it to them they beat one those teams in bills! So ravens and kc the only 2 teams I think are for sure better, although despite loss I do think bills are as well.
 
What tier are they? Missing their best wr id agree but with Nico I don’t think there more than 3 teams better in afc. And while it was ugly and bills terrible coaching handed it to them they beat one those teams in bills! So ravens and kc the only 2 teams I think are for sure better, although despite loss I do think bills are as well.
AFC for me, it's all just projection and means nothing at this point anyway. But in order

KC, Balt, Buf, Pit, Hou, SD, Den

Not sure I'd change that even if Balt TD was good in the opener at Arrowhead because we know they all have some major flaws. Pretty bad that Chargers and Donks are playoff teams in my book right now but the bottom of the AFC is really not good
 
What tier are they? Missing their best wr id agree but with Nico I don’t think there more than 3 teams better in afc. And while it was ugly and bills terrible coaching handed it to them they beat one those teams in bills! So ravens and kc the only 2 teams I think are for sure better, although despite loss I do think bills are as well.
2nd Tier

Post in thread 'Super Bowl Champion' Super Bowl Champion
 
What tier are they? Missing their best wr id agree but with Nico I don’t think there more than 3 teams better in afc. And while it was ugly and bills terrible coaching handed it to them they beat one those teams in bills! So ravens and kc the only 2 teams I think are for sure better, although despite loss I do think bills are as well.
The Tiers are 100% solely to predict the SB winner. A few years ago I also did the research to provide the likelihood of the SB participants. The tiers in no way determines who wins week to week. Often you may have a 1st-3rd tier team have a bad season. You also may have a 4th-7th tier team that may make the playoffs which happened last season (PIT 5th Tier) but they don't go on to win the SB or even get there for that matter, 0% chance L21 years of one or both happening.
 
Jets at home at night have looked very good for there standards. Vs patriots and bills were there two best performances of the year, at home and at night. Just a different energy.

The Texans can't really run the ball to expose that jets interior d and have no wideouts. They are very gettable.

Last week was a get up divisional revenge spot with tape to correct for new England. This is a flatline spot for the Texans.

The sharps are due to win one on the jets
 
Jets at home at night have looked very good for there standards. Vs patriots and bills were there two best performances of the year, at home and at night. Just a different energy.

The Texans can't really run the ball to expose that jets interior d and have no wideouts. They are very gettable.

Last week was a get up divisional revenge spot with tape to correct for new England. This is a flatline spot for the Texans.

The sharps are due to win one on the jets
Revenge spot for New England? That is arguably the worst roster in the league and there is absolutely no excuse for the Jets losing that game. I agree that the sharps have been on the Jets for weeks and are due to get one but man are the Jets an embarrassment.
 
Revenge spot for New England? That is arguably the worst roster in the league and there is absolutely no excuse for the Jets losing that game. I agree that the sharps have been on the Jets for weeks and are due to get one but man are the Jets an embarrassment.
I agree. Jets aren't good. I'm fully bought into that. But even the titans patriots and dolphins have gotten off the mat after this many losses and captured a w.

Are the jets as bad as those teams ?

I still think they are better then new England and titans. Certainly better then Carolina. I don't see a dead team. Maybe I'm a sucker but the talent is there. They have flashes that other teams don't have.
 
I agree. Jets aren't good. I'm fully bought into that. But even the titans patriots and dolphins have gotten off the mat after this many losses and captured a w.

Are the jets as bad as those teams ?

I still think they are better then new England and titans. Certainly better then Carolina. I don't see a dead team. Maybe I'm a sucker but the talent is there. They have flashes that other teams don't have.
They do...

They struggle when the other team is better in the trenches. They lose the rushing battle and t.o.p. in these instances it seems.

Start capping their games there.
 
They do...

They struggle when the other team is better in the trenches. They lose the rushing battle and t.o.p. in these instances it seems.

Start capping their games there.
Do you think the Texans are a good matchup in this regard ?...that's kind of why I like the jets. Of course Houston went into green bay and won running but took 3 turnovers

I think they can have some success but it's not a horrendous matchup for the jets on the ground. Texans always been good due to the air. And in the air I would say pro jets without diggs and Collins. Massive edge at wideouts.
 
Do you think the Texans are a good matchup in this regard ?...that's kind of why I like the jets. Of course Houston went into green bay and won running but took 3 turnovers

I think they can have some success but it's not a horrendous matchup for the jets on the ground. Texans always been good due to the air. And in the air I would say pro jets without diggs and Collins. Massive edge at wideouts.
I don't think this is a massive difference in trenches, no.

They played last year, and that was the Stroud weather game I was looking for. That's our history.

No weather tomorrow, so disregard that whitewashing last December.
 
go 2 tight ends w Stover to improve pass pro and get another pass-catcher. stover anytime td +1300. even with hutchinson giving them nothing metchie and woods still weren't getting any routes
 
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