Ohio State -7. O/U 47.
Tennessee vs. Ohio State Discussion Thread
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2daBank
Voice of Reason
This a slam dunk under isn’t it? I’d say I’d love the points also but I really don’t trust Vols qb, that said I think Vols d will absolutely shut down the Ohio st o. Right now I’m taking under 47.5 and def lean to taking +7.5, crazy it sounds this could be day last game coaching Tosu!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
If it anything close to the defensive battle I expect the points are def appealing.
WolverineWise
Well-Known Member
7 is a big ask here
FadeTheHype
Pretty much a regular
OSU is either going to win by 20 or lose straight up. Bet both ways.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I just don’t see the scoring by either team for it to be more than 10 unless it turnovers or special teams, I have little doubt the defenses control most this game
Frank Costanza
You are what your record says you are
I don't know if anyone discussed Herbstreit's comments on the day of the selection show. He said ohio would be much better off playing this game on the road because of the disenchantment of its fans. Said they'd be looking for reasons to jump on the team from the get-go. They're already unbridled dicks. Imagine if Tennessee gets a jump start in the game...
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Sounds like there may be a fair amount of Tennessee fans there after Ohio St accidentally leaked the presale code to the public instead of just it's season ticket holders
Frank Costanza
You are what your record says you are
Yup,was wondering the same. Some monstrous stadiums in play. 3 of the 7 biggest in the country for the opening round.
CPA-hole
Good night, Duke, and sweet dreams!
Tennessee fans will show up. They are already telling OSU people to not sell their tickets to Vols fans.
ND fans are notorious for selling tickets to other fans. Assuming it will be different for a playoff game? But I think they have a season ticket holder base that is more national. Might pass on a playoff game?
Tickets at Penn St seemed really cheap. Can't imagine there's many SMU fans showing up.
satnightfever05
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Tenn +7.5 is most bet side of the playoffs.. not that it's a huge advantage, but extremely cold temps expected.. does Tenn playmakers have experience playing in cold?
Yeah I saw that tweet just a bit ago.
Game is interesting...
Tennessee DL vs OSU OL is big advantage Vols.
OSU apparently with two new OL starters
My question is, how will the Vols score?
survive&advance
Nothing but net MFer!
same thinking for me, played under 48. plenty of time for both coaches to prepare is my biggest concern
I just said this elsewhere but I can see a low scoring tied game in the 3rd and then OSU by 10-14 with a front door cover.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
85% of them have prob never even felt temps below freezing, wearing coats when it in the 50s!! I remember years ago when I was going to Houston and El Paso quite a bit I be walking around in shorts and tee shirt on beautiful days in the 50s and these mfers thought I was crazy as they all bundled up! lol. Think it gets colder in Nashville but not sure they get much in the way of 20s w wind feeling like it ripping thru your body! That vols qb def don’t look like someone used to cold temps, I don’t trust him when it 80!!!
True but it's not like this OSU team is Ohio born n bred lol.
We gotta stop with this IU and OSU narrative.
OSU was the better team, obviously. Their defense is one of the tops in the country and did their job post the 1st possession.
The offense was sporadic that day. They just crossed over 300 yards of offense with that final TD.
Their first offensive drive of the 3rd quarter was pretty.
Otherwise, the TDs were via...
79 yard punt return
7 yard drive after a turnover
44 yard drive
Add in a FG on a 43 yard drive.
As I've said since then, that was a 24-14 type game. Dominant defense by OSU. I guess maybe even 24-10 type game.
Indiana defense played pretty damn good that day.
Since that final score was notched, everyone has used that game to discredit Indiana.
Fair enough, they can't move the ball versus excellent defenses.
Use that as a cap for the playoffs.
Take away games vs top end DLs (OSU and Michigan) and the Hoosiers moved the ball versus everyone else.
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Now, to your point on IU better than Tennessee.... That's pretty interesting. What would you make the line Vols vs Hoosiers on a neutral site?
Tennessee would win this game for the reason stated above -- top end DL play. Hoosiers have issues there.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Tenn is in Knoxville and the temperature on Saturday there will be 40/23. It will be a good bit colder in Columbus, but it's not like Knoxville is South Texas
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Great points on the IU game. I didn't even watch it.
I just feel like these public dogs never do well in the playoffs. But that was before it became 12, obviously.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I havnt trusted that qb all year. That offense doesn’t look anything like it used to when hooker ran it. I dunno how they score but then again I don’t exactly think osu gonna be running it up either. I havnt been able to really think anything but under ever since I saw this matchup.
Frank Costanza
You are what your record says you are
I fully expect ohio to play really well unless Tennessee magically changes its school colors and helmet to this:
Rusty Trombone
Pretty much a regular
No....but would Ohio St scoring 10-17 points and losing be that big of a shocker?
Ryno14
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Have my first on the way and due early January or I’d be there. Have a ton of my family/friends going. Lucky I’m even being allowed out of the house to go watch it somewhere 
. I don’t feel great about it and was obviously hoping for a home game somehow, but do think it’ll be close entire way. Feels like the georgia game this year for me though….not feeling like much of a shot and line being strong but get some liquid courage and talk myself into Vols winning and taking the points. I think Ohio State has the most talented team, but they also employ Ryan Day. Hope Vols get a lucky turnover or two and pull it out
. I don’t feel great about it and was obviously hoping for a home game somehow, but do think it’ll be close entire way. Feels like the georgia game this year for me though….not feeling like much of a shot and line being strong but get some liquid courage and talk myself into Vols winning and taking the points. I think Ohio State has the most talented team, but they also employ Ryan Day. Hope Vols get a lucky turnover or two and pull it out
satnightfever05
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Well that's an angle right- last impression of OSU right now is that home collapse as 3 TD favs against a pitiful O in UM.. Buckeyes can't possible be good anymore, right? Then you add in the hook on the TD and seems like Tenn slam dunk..
Gotta remember (yes before OL injuries), but OSU should have probably won at Oregon.. you could tell OSU was nervous for UM game.. dunno if they'll have those same nerves this week
Wiretowire
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If Judkins is in OSU runs the ball 98% of the time. If Henderson is in OSU passes the ball 90% of the time. If the RB lines up directly behind the QB who is in the shotgun OSU runs the ball 100% of the time regardless of who the RB is. It doesn't take an inciteful defensive genius to see these tendencies. Tenn sees it and will cheat their LB's accordingly. That gives them a huge advantage. Every other team OSU has played has seen this and done the exact same all year long. This is also exactly the same tendency Day used last year before Chip Kelly even got to OSU which leads me to believe Day is actually still calling the plays not Kelly. Another point is I have never seen a Chip Kelly team display such easy to read tendencies but Day has done this for years.
I expect some surprises offensively from OSU at the start of the game but if it remains close in the first half Day will take control and call the offense I outlined above. If you don't think these tendencies are correct call up and watch any of the last 5 OSU games played. I think you will find it interesting.
As for the passing game, if they continue to throw that bubble screen outside it will fail. And they better throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field to Smith. OSU has some truly talented receivers, but I don't think Howard can get them the ball consistently and if there is any pressure at all on Howard it won't matter because he falls apart.
I haven't seen Tenn play much this year but if their QB can run at all that will spell big problems for the OSU defense. GL
I expect some surprises offensively from OSU at the start of the game but if it remains close in the first half Day will take control and call the offense I outlined above. If you don't think these tendencies are correct call up and watch any of the last 5 OSU games played. I think you will find it interesting.
As for the passing game, if they continue to throw that bubble screen outside it will fail. And they better throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field to Smith. OSU has some truly talented receivers, but I don't think Howard can get them the ball consistently and if there is any pressure at all on Howard it won't matter because he falls apart.
I haven't seen Tenn play much this year but if their QB can run at all that will spell big problems for the OSU defense. GL
Marsski
MAC Marvel
I was in the BW3 on Lane Avenue--literally across the street from The OSU--for lunch as it was half off wings day. Anyway, they have Touch Tunes app as their jukebox in there and Rocky Top keeps being played along with the Tennessee Whiskey country song.
The bartender told me Tennessee fans have been playing the songs all week at lunchtime in there. Keep in mind, they are STILL back in Tennessee. There's NOT a single fucking pair of Orange and white overalls here yet. The bartender was keeping track of how many times they had played Tennessee songs...it was at 22 when I left...
Game respects game, I tip my cap to you Vols.
22 at night in the Shoe is chilly, I'd get some hot hands.
The bartender told me Tennessee fans have been playing the songs all week at lunchtime in there. Keep in mind, they are STILL back in Tennessee. There's NOT a single fucking pair of Orange and white overalls here yet. The bartender was keeping track of how many times they had played Tennessee songs...it was at 22 when I left...
Game respects game, I tip my cap to you Vols.
22 at night in the Shoe is chilly, I'd get some hot hands.
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FadeTheHype
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Here's my theory. OSU finally plays up to their alleged roster talent and opens up the offense. Get those talented WR's involved early on quick throws. Draw the CB's in and eventually have a few deep routes to open up. Once they get things clicking, it'll be an avalanche of big plays on all 3 phases of the game. It'll be game over. Or, OSU can play conservative and allow Tennessee to hang around like Michigan, and lose. Quick summary, either OSU wakes the hell up or has already quit. Blowout or loss in my opinion.
FadeTheHype
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Not a bad synopsis but there's more to it than that. The OSU/IU game was more in the range of 17-14 type of game without 2 special teams gaffes, and an unnecessary TD at the end. Just going to add this so things make more sense. OSU piped in extra noise for the game. Therefore, IU had to go to silent count snaps. OSU picked up on certain signals when to bring the house on certain passing downs. IU didn't adjust and paid the price. OSU and Michigan for sure have great defenses like usual. Michigan was much better than their record, just had a tough ass schedule. I have seen enough and read enough about IU and Cignetti that things will get corrected. Maybe IU decides to run the ball more which shouldn't be an issue.
I saw you mention the pipes in noise angle the other day.
Tell me more. I hadn't heard of any of that.
We have our own Ohio Stadium story from 2006. That was the #1 vs #2 game and the grass was still grass then. They let it grow to the highest height all season to counter Manningham, Arrington and Breaston.
FadeTheHype
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The extra piped in noise was told by some IU fans at the game. OSU was that scared of IU, I shit you not.
Frank Costanza
You are what your record says you are
The get-in for the game in Austin is $100, basically 1/2 of face value.
BiffTFinancial
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Counter-point: John Cooper was the last abject loser to do worse.
Smokeshow99
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A prominent cfb capper would make Tennessee -2 on a neutral.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
What about self-scouting and breaking tendencies? Does Day do that?
Rusty Trombone
Pretty much a regular
No. He thinks the talent on his roster will just over match the opponent in every game. 95% of the time he's right....but when that doesn't work, he's easily outcoached.
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Marsski
MAC Marvel
yeah I call bullshit on that.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
This is all about capping turnovers imo
Tenn front seven v Will Howard is a colossal mismatch. OSU defense v Tenn is a colossal mismatch. On paper this looks like a terrible game, not sure who can move on who. Under is obvious. Don't know how you'd remotely feel comfortable laying points in this. Complete craps shoot imo.
Tenn front seven v Will Howard is a colossal mismatch. OSU defense v Tenn is a colossal mismatch. On paper this looks like a terrible game, not sure who can move on who. Under is obvious. Don't know how you'd remotely feel comfortable laying points in this. Complete craps shoot imo.
Wiretowire
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Rusty, I could not have answered M.W.'s question better. That is exactly what Day thinks. GL
I rarely go against ya my man but I have a different view based on what I watched that day along with the box score.
- Ohio st punted twice the entire game
- Indiana cross into OSU territory only 3 times and in the red zone only twice
- For contrast Ohio st started 4 drives inside Indiana territory
- Between first and last drives for Indiana they gained a total of 3 yards of offense (on 29 plays)
- Yes ohio st only had one long drive for a touchdown but that’s because they only had 5 drives the entire game that started inside their own territory (2 3 and outs, 1 87 yard drive stopped by a bad snap by backup center at the 1, the 70 TD drive, and 11 plays 43 yds in the 4th leading to a FG as the game was over already at 28-7)
- All other drives started in Indiana territory which limited potential yards even if Indianas D really did hold up well for the day
- It was clear to me Cig was content to milk clock that last drive just trying to get to the locker room running the ball 10 times when they were down 31-7 for a total of 40 yards or so and using almost the entire play clock each snap (used 7 and a half minutes total).
I honestly felt 31-7 was a fair final given all that took place (special teams obviously but you can’t just assume Ohio st doesn’t score those 2 possessions without the muffed snap and the punt return, Ohio st also stopped twice near or at the goal line…credit Indiana but still fortunate with one of those being a backup center bad snap)
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Few counterpoints...
That last drive Cig spent the first 5-6 plays totally content to get the game over... No doubt... Holding a TT live under I was happy...
THEN they decided they wanted to score. Moved a hit faster and hit some chunk plays. Quite the contrast. I'm assuming he noticed the backups.
SOFT defense was awesome. As they should be with that payroll and a bunch of 5 stars. The OSU offense was average AT BEST. They didn't crack 300 till late in the game. I understand shorter possessions but they really weren't doing a lot with those TBH.
My impressions out of that game...
SOFT defense very good, almost great
SOFT offense solid but nothing like 2019-2022 teams at all.
Indiana defense very solid
Indiana offense no chance vs elite DL
I just don't think the final score reflected this game.
24-7 maybe? We can take away that last IU drive.
I just didn't see this as some crazy ass beating. The better team won, and with not much of a scare once the 2h started. No doubt. But, they weren't moving the ball at will, at all.
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One key stat from that game.
SOFT had 29 rushes for 76 yards until the Henderson 39 yarder with a min left where he slid at the one to let clock run out (Day decided to score instead).
Indiana defense was damn solid that day.
Just pointing this out for the capping of ND game.
SOFT had 29 rushes for 76 yards until the Henderson 39 yarder with a min left where he slid at the one to let clock run out (Day decided to score instead).
Indiana defense was damn solid that day.
Just pointing this out for the capping of ND game.
