Super Bowl - Patriots V. Seahawks Discussion

KJ said:
Rare in this game we get to say it but how bad did linesmakers screw up by making the NFC a 2.5 favorite over the AFC before 'ship weekend? Now they're stuck at 4.5 and we all know a move to 5 or 5.5 means nothing other than random people think it means something. Bringing 6 in to play exposes so much more risk, think they pretty much have to hold at 4.5 and hope at this point. It's not moving down unless someone wants to get cute.
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Think that 3 represented that Buffalo would have only been a 1 point dog. .The look ahead lines I seen were Hawks 1 Bills , and pick with Rams v Bills ...Bills were 3.5 v Bears ..Cant remember 49ers v Bills
 
Inspekdah said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2019830833075372117
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Per Oregon Live:

Defensive pass interference frequently rears its ugly head in big moments, and Smith’s crew has thrown 23 flags for DPI, which led to 241 penalty yards over the course of the season.



Smith’s crew called the third-most DPIs per game in 2025-26. Smith has also called the second most defensive holding penalties this season, after calling the most defensive holding penalties a year ago.



Clearly, Smith and his crew tend to be strict when it comes to throwing flags on players in the secondary. This is the biggest trend to watch in Super Bowl 60, especially considering that the the Seahawks’ secondary is big and physical.
 
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I don't really give a shit who the ref is...Seattle is gonna blow these mfers to kingdom come. Don't overthink it.

Vrabel is a helluva coach, but Mike Macdonald is a defensive genius. He is the architect of how to stop Ohio State in CFB. Give him two weeks, he will have Maye seeing ghosts.

The Rams game, throw out the window, Rams score on EVERYONE.
 
HUNT said:
Defensive pass interference frequently rears its ugly head in big moments, and Smith’s crew has thrown 23 flags for DPI, which led to 241 penalty yards over the course of the season.



Smith’s crew called the third-most DPIs per game in 2025-26. Smith has also called the second most defensive holding penalties this season, after calling the most defensive holding penalties a year ago.



Clearly, Smith and his crew tend to be strict when it comes to throwing flags on players in the secondary. This is the biggest trend to watch in Super Bowl 60, especially considering that the the Seahawks’ secondary is big and physical.
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Great another flag fest to help the offenses down the field ..Started to lean over 45.5 , kind of low already imo .
 
HUNT said:
I don't really give a shit who the ref is...Seattle is gonna blow these mfers to kingdom come. Don't overthink it.

Vrabel is a helluva coach, but Mike Macdonald is a defensive genius. He is the architect of how to stop Ohio State in CFB. Give him two weeks, he will have Maye seeing ghosts.

The Rams game, throw out the window, Rams score on EVERYONE.
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Agree
 
DOUBLEUP4LIFE said:
Think that 3 represented that Buffalo would have only been a 1 point dog. .The look ahead lines I seen were Hawks 1 Bills , and pick with Rams v Bills ...Bills were 3.5 v Bears ..Cant remember 49ers v Bills
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It was 2.5 the week of the AFC championship game so it was either Denver/NE v SEA/Rams
 
HUNT said:
I don't really give a shit who the ref is...Seattle is gonna blow these mfers to kingdom come. Don't overthink it.

Vrabel is a helluva coach, but Mike Macdonald is a defensive genius. He is the architect of how to stop Ohio State in CFB. Give him two weeks, he will have Maye seeing ghosts.

The Rams game, throw out the window, Rams score on EVERYONE.
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He’s going to have to win it with Sam throwing 35 times. Only one has to be a fumble lost or a pick to completely change the game. And he’s more likely to do that than anyone else in the entire league, even this year.
 
I will be on JSN for MVP in a couple ways, likely including yds and TDs which he'll need to win it anyway

I strongly believe Seattle has the better QB and defense in this matchup, seems like everyone loves to discuss who teams beat in other sports but not this league? I guess the good ol' NFL gets a pass to be that league that you can get away with the you only beating who's in front of you cliche.

Coaching, I have no reason to think Vrabel is any better than MacDonald anyway. Because he was there as a player? Ha! I do think he's a good coach but not sure how he's somehow better than MacDonald suddenly.

I don't mind Maye but him beating Stafford for MVP would have been the joke of the century to this point. He likely pans out to be top 10-15 in the league as things settle in, people thinking he's Mahomes already ffs.
 
Inspekdah said:
He’s going to have to win it with Sam throwing 35 times. Only one has to be a fumble lost or a pick to completely change the game. And he’s more likely to do that than anyone else in the entire league, even this year.
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Seattle oline is elite. I would be stunned if Sam had to throw 35 times. This isn't the Rams offense they are against.
 
Dude muffed a punt on the rams,clearly gave seattle a gift and momentum..its going to be interesting to see if Sam gets his bell rung and just goes about his business, he needs to be perfect and the gameplay too..hoping for a close good game nobody thought Maye would be here or seattle in the beginning of the season..pats playing with house money and still no respect...
 
B.A.R. said:
Yeah, Sam won't be touching 30 throws. If he does, take the over because that means NE scored off turnovers early.
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I just don’t see K9 running successfully like he did over the used car salesmen in SF and that pathetic Rams defense.
 
Kubiak needs to prepare for this game like it's the last time he'll have an OL in his life because it might be the last time he has an OL in his life
 
KJ said:
Kubiak needs to prepare for this game like it's the last time he'll have an OL in his life because it might be the last time he has an OL in his life
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Raiders would be smart to trade Crosby for multiple picks and go all OL. In FA too. Gut the defense. I think it’s easier to develop and sell your fan base on a rebuild if your young QB is putting up video game numbers, even if it comes in losses where the D allows a 40 burger and the offense is scoring easily down 3 scores late.
 
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Not shocking with everyone coming in on New England that what was a 74/26 split in favor of Seattle three days ago is now down to 58/42 with the only line movement coming on the ML where Seattle have moved from -220 to -230/-235 most places and NE from +190 to +200 most places.

Completely shocked that a place that loves the splash like Fanatics is doing a bet with Kendall (Jenner for those under a rock) promo and she took New England ML at +190 early in the week lol. I think they're doing a 100% boost promo with that shit.
 
Inspekdah said:
Seems impossible? Averaging 0.33 points per 1Q
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That was the Belichick strategy the first 4 Super Bowls (6th, 7th? can't remember) BUT I noticed and cashed in on it in the 5th. I remember Pats u0.5 was +600 for the 1Q. They would start slow, read the other team, gather info, then pounce.

One year later they were back in the SB. The squares caught on to the trend I figured out the previous year. I stayed far away and everybody got fucked for being a year late to the party.

Anyway, all this to say, it happened like this in the past, this was a BB trend/strategy, and he has since abandoned that strategy. Nothing to see here with any correlation to those previous, low-scoring 1Q. cheers bro 🎩
 
They hate each other with a passion and it's hilarious

Real question is the one that got in to the HOF with a mic and a platform, who does he side with and does he say anything about it

Going with a hard no
 
austinhous said:
Since 2002 Super Bowl dog 14-10 SU and 18-6 ATS. Average line +4.5
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Teams that win 3 to get to the Super Bowl (NE this year) are 12-1 ATS, 11-0 if not playing another team in the same situation.

The last 18 years, the team with the lower winning percentage (Seattle this tyear) has gone 17-1 ATS.

The two angles have never applied to the same game, until this year.
 
Patriots +4’ +100 2u
Patriots ML +200
Boutte o30’ yds receiving
Boutte anytime TD +340
Walker u72’ yds rushing (tail)
Both teams successful 4th down conversion +190
Stevenson +22’ rush yds vs Walker
JSN/ S Diggs each have 5+ rec yds each qtr +1400
Over 2.5 players to have pass att +130 (tail)
Darnold/Maye have15+ pass yds each qtr +105
Each team scores 1+ TD and FG each half +1400
Walker/Stevenson with 5+ rush yds each qtr +370
Maye o35’ rush yds (tail)
Longest TD u35’ (tail)

Average size wagers, keep it interesting

Enjoy the game
 
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Great call on Seattle @Capaholic and crew…best team won and in dominating fashion.

All the intangibles I thought leaned Pats were complete the opposite on the field. Vrabel and McD did nothing and made no adjustments, Sam was turnover free and Mike McD proved he’s gonna be around for awhile.

Fuckin happy Sam gets a ring…the guy’s always done things the right way. Ghosts are gone, Sam!
 
B.A.R. said:
For sure.

The equalizer is turnovers.

Can New England make Sam and company uncomfortable?

These playoffs have been abysmal on offense for the Patriots.

They averaged 3.2 ypp today. Before we use the weather as an excuse, that average was actually better in the 2h during the snow.

Last week they averaged. 3.9 ypp.

Total yards amassed these playoffs by NE --

206 and 248.

Bottom line is that the New England offense faces two excellent defenses. Houston is probably the best in the league. Luckily, the defense helped them to win those games.

What's not so lucky? Now they face another great defense.

Should be tough sledding on offense. The only part to victory is forcing turnovers and having short fields.

The Rams last two games up in Seattle offensively are exceptions, not the norm. I wouldn't use those as part of this handicap.

In reality, this ML is CHEAP.

I have 25 units riding on the future. As an independent bet, I believe Seattle ML has hella value.

23-13 or so seems prudent.
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Yes, I'm taking a lap on post #13 in this thread.

This was a simple cap, thank goodness.

Seattle won due to their D, trenches and running game.

MOST important, no turnovers from Sam. He was pretty bad but he's not there to win games, simply manage them.
 
Inspekdah said:
Yeah, this is pretty spot on. And it's not entirely impossible that New England could force some turnovers here. The Pats defense isn't elite, but it's by far the best unit that Seattle has faced in a long time and Gonzalez as good as it gets.

With all that said. 4.5 and the -230 seem very light.
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Was light indeed.

And yes, this defense by NE was very good themselves. Eventually, with no help, they broke down on the drive to make it 19-0.
 
Inspekdah said:
No D have survive 7/8 3 and outs
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And, I'll be honest...

Love Mike McDonald, he's a helluva coach!

But...

That staff played with fire a bit tonight with some of those passes. We were very close to a game changing play and right back to a one score game when score was 9-0/12-0...
 
Capaholic said:
I would have taken Seattle up to 7. I'll gladly come back and say I was wrong if it goes otherwise. Im not looking at the playoffs. Im looking at a body of work over 20 weeks. Seattle has a better team across the board. Vrabel's a HC who has been there before? Must have missed that game. We are going to evaluate Darnold vs. a scheme 5+ years ago on while on a shit team? But not on his teams being 30-7 the last two seasons? Idk.. I would be flat out stunned if the Pats went in and won and just dominated the action. The only way they win is off multiple turnovers.
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Yawn lol
 
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