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May 15 Sun 2022

11:35 AM
951San Diego PadresJ. Musgrove -R+1½
-205		-103O 8
-105
952Atlanta BravesK. Wright -R-1½
+175		-107U 8
-115
01:35 PM
953Cincinnati RedsH. Greene -R+1½
-178		+121O 8½
-103
954Pittsburgh PiratesJ. Quintana -L-1½
+158		-131U 8½
-117
01:35 PM
975Houston AstrosJ. Verlander -R-1½
-120		-191O 8
-115
976Washington NationalsP. Corbin -L+1½
+100		+175U 8
-105
01:40 PM
955Milwaukee BrewersB. Woodruff -R-1½
+105		-155O 7
-113
956Miami MarlinsE. Hernandez -R+1½
-125		+143U 7
-107
01:40 PM
963Baltimore OriolesT. Wells -R+1½
-170		+127O 7½
-110
964Detroit TigersT. Skubal -L-1½
+150		-137U 7½
-110
01:40 PM
977Seattle MarinersR. Ray -L+1½
-178		+123O 7
-120
978New York MetsC. Carrasco -R-1½
+158		-133U 7
+100
02:10 PM
967New York YankeesN. Cortes -L-1½
+140		-117O 8
-105
968Chicago White SoxM. Kopech -R+1½
-160		+107U 8
-115
02:10 PM
969Cleveland GuardiansT. McKenzie -R+1½
-160		+130O 7½
-110
970Minnesota TwinsJ. Ryan -R+1 Markets-1½
+140		-141U 7½
-110
03:10 PM
979Kansas City RoyalsD. Lynch -L+1½
-155		+124O 11
-105
980Colorado RockiesA. Gomber -L-1½
+135		-134U 11
-115
04:07 PM
973Los Angeles AngelsP. Sandoval -L-1½
+135		-131O 7
-110
974Oakland AthleticsF. Montas -R+1½
-155		+121U 7
-110
07:08 PM
961San Francisco GiantsC. Rodon -L-1½
+115		-141O 7
+100
962St. Louis CardinalsA. Wainwright -R+1½
-135		+130U 7
-120
 
Weird fucking day today. A lot of mismatches that I don't agree with.
Musgrove, Greene, Woodruff, Rodon & Wells.
I was against Wright last start and he got shelled in the 2nd. #'s love Musgrove.
If you like to drink, Greene's a decent bet. Great stuff, who knows where it's going to go?
Woody, been not great. Larger priced favorite. 2nd biggest discrepancy with my numbers after rodon
Rodon, Ace. Huge difference between starters. Largest I've seen so far this year.
Wells is way better than Skubal. I love skubal, though. Less sample with Wells. Need more research.

Best play: Rodon

Damn it, forgot about Montas. Another huge discrepancy between starters.
 
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Skubal ov 5.5 k’s -140. O’s 28th in league ops against lefties and strike out over 30% their AB’s. Get it while it hot, I think the juice already going up and wouldn’t be shocked if ticked up..
 
I dunno if they even get the cards game in, they calling for storms this afternoon and lasting into evening so no clue.
 
KJ said:
Good to know, both teams have to travel for games tomorrow so it could be a quick call
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It really hard to say w weather round here. We for sure gonna get some rain, looks to me like it could be in and out before the game but the hour by hour forecast shows like 40% chance thru 7-8-9. I don’t have a real good guess one way or the other. If it starts earlier prob better chance it over sooner.
 
2daBank said:
It really hard to say w weather round here. We for sure gonna get some rain, looks to me like it could be in and out before the game but the hour by hour forecast shows like 40% chance thru 7-8-9. I don’t have a real good guess one way or the other. If it starts earlier prob better chance it over sooner.
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I'd prepare like it's a 5 inning game to get official is what I'm saying. StL have a game in Queens tomorrow and SF play in Denver tomorrow.

If both had a day off I could see them dealing with a decent delay but doubt they do with both playing tomorrow
 
I don’t wanna complain too much cause I’m loving these pitcher props but the fact I gotta drive to casino at open to bet the 1 or 2 I like they bother putting out early so I don’t lose number, then go back home and wait for them to drop rest the numbers and drive back to bet those really fucjing sucks w gas at 4.50 a freaking gallon and having a woman who would like to do other things besides wait around for numbers to drop! Is it really too much to ask for these Mfers to put them all out at one time?
 
KJ said:
I'd prepare like it's a 5 inning game to get official is what I'm saying. StL have a game in Queens tomorrow and SF play in Denver tomorrow.

If both had a day off I could see them dealing with a decent delay but doubt they do with both playing tomorrow
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I don’t think it has a chance to work out that way tho. If they get it started that should mean rain out the area so they play whole thing.
 
2daBank said:
I don’t wanna complain too much cause I’m loving these pitcher props but the fact I gotta drive to casino at open to bet the 1 or 2 I like they bother putting out early so I don’t lose number, then go back home and wait for them to drop rest the numbers and drive back to bet those really fucjing sucks w gas at 4.50 a freaking gallon and having a woman who would like to do other things besides wait around for numbers to drop! Is it really too much to ask for these Mfers to put them all out at one time?
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Set up an Illinois VPN

No I don't know how to do it because I haven't had to but it doesn't sound that difficult, should do a little research on that
 
Oh and my dumb fuck state just voted no to legalize sports betting so every damn state around missouri now or will have it soon but not these fucjing morons, they rather everyone have to drive out of state to give money away!!
 
2daBank said:
I don’t think it has a chance to work out that way tho. If they get it started that should mean rain out the area so they play whole thing.
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Already shortened season I'd think MLB would move up the start time and tell ESPN to take a 7 foot walk on a 6 foot plank
 
2daBank said:
Oh and my dumb fuck state just voted no to legalize sports betting so every damn state around missouri now or will have it soon but not these fucjing morons, they rather everyone have to drive out of state to give money away!!
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How and who

That's where it starts in Jeff City

Can't imagine a government choosing to devoid itself of so much revenue these days. What a disaster.
 
2daBank said:
Oh and my dumb fuck state just voted no to legalize sports betting so every damn state around missouri now or will have it soon but not these fucjing morons, they rather everyone have to drive out of state to give money away!!
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Don’t worry….they will vote yes sooner or later….

Even NY is legalized now. Maybe your states wants more share of the profits.

NY is like 51% or something like that. It’s one of the highest in the country.

NY Jets and NY Giants are getting sued by New Jersey because they both have NY and are playing in NJ…….they want them to take out the NY……smh……
 
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Don’t worry….they will vote yes sooner or later….

Even NY is legalized now. Maybe your states wants more share of the profits.

NY is like 51% or something like that. It’s one of the highest in the country.

NY Jets and NY Giants are getting sued by New Jersey because they both have NY and are playing in NJ…….they want them to take out the NY……smh……
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Big difference. Missouri is full of Southern Baptists who think gambling is immoral
 
trying to wait on these duckers to give me a outs number on Gomber, almost positive they come lower than I think he goes, I think he will be real good today but not really interested in his k prop. 15.5 outs or less is pound town tho. Smaller at 16.5 but I don’t see them coming that high.
 
2daBank said:
trying to wait on these duckers to give me a outs number on Gomber, almost positive they come lower than I think he goes, I think he will be real good today but not really interested in his k prop. 15.5 outs or less is pound town tho. Smaller at 16.5 but I don’t see them coming that high.
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After yesterday the whole game seems like an under waiting to happen
 
KJ said:
After yesterday the whole game seems like an under waiting to happen
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I been playing overs there, I’m scared to play unders in coors unless I really trust both pitchers and Usually go Ff then, dunno if lynch has ever pitched there but I doubt it. I could see maybe kc team total but I’d prefer Gomber outs if I can get it, they couldn’t possibly come very high w the number and I think he will cruise past it
 
2daBank said:
I been playing overs there, I’m scared to play unders in coors unless I really trust both pitchers and Usually go Ff then, dunno if lynch has ever pitched there but I doubt it. I could see maybe kc team total but I’d prefer Gomber outs if I can get it, they couldn’t possibly come very high w the number and I think he will cruise past it
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Assume if you like the starter to make it past five there you'd deal with under

I'm not playing under but it makes sense...I'd actually prefer Rox tt under though, hate road unders knowing they're guaranteed 27 outs
 
He had a few nit so hot starts early on this year but I think In general Gomber likes pitching there, or embraces it anyways. Maybe he likes knowing he most likely get run support! Or his stuff just isn’t as effected there as other guys?
 
KJ said:
Assume if you like the starter to make it past five there you'd deal with under

I'm not playing under but it makes sense...I'd actually prefer Rox tt under though, hate road unders knowing they're guaranteed 27 outs
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I mean prob more times than not that true but he could always blow up late in start or either pen always a walk or error away from a inning getting out of hand. Just confident he will go close to 6 innings more so than where score ends up in that park. I didn’t look at lynch before I left house cause assumed it was pretty unlikely he had pitched at coors, I almost never want any part of guy making his 1st start there, yiu just never freaking know how it will go!
 
2daBank said:
He had a few nit so hot starts early on this year but I think In general Gomber likes pitching there, or embraces it anyways. Maybe he likes knowing he most likely get run support! Or his stuff just isn’t as effected there as other guys?
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Pretty sure the recipe there is for guys who don't need sink on their pitches. No clue about Gomber, but if he can get swings and misses on up in the zone he should thrive there
 
KJ said:
Pretty sure the recipe there is for guys who don't need sink on their pitches. No clue about Gomber, but if he can get swings and misses on up in the zone he should thrive there
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He big curve guy which id think wouldn’t be ideal but I do think his mental makeup is good for pitching there, some guys I think the mental side is a bigger problem than how much different the pitches break. He has reduced amount he throws it since coming to rox but curve still important part his game. For not being overpowering he throws his 4 seamer quite a bit, I’ve always thought he had one those fastballs that appear to get on hitters faster than they think/radar gun says. His slider usage has increased a bunch since joining these guys, overall he still has a really solid mix to keep hitters guessing, and of course he a lefty which royals have not hit very well this year. Unfortunately Kc doesn’t strike out a bunch vs them and his swinging miss rate been much lower this year, I wanted to talk myself into over 4.5 k’s at plus but couldn’t do it. Really want to see that total out prop pop up around 15.5! (Or even 14.5! That be crazy and could happen!). Most likely be 16.5
 
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He big curve guy which id think wouldn’t be ideal but I do think his mental makeup is good for pitching there, some guys I think the mental side is a bigger problem than how much different the pitches break. He has reduced amount he throws it since coming to rox but curve still important part his game. For not being overpowering he throws his 4 seamer quite a bit, I’ve always thought he had one those fastballs that appear to get on hitters faster than they think/radar gun says. His slider usage has increased a bunch since joining these guys, overall he still has a really solid mix to keep hitters guessing, and of course he a lefty which royals have not hit very well this year. Unfortunately Kc doesn’t strike out a bunch vs them and his swinging miss rate been much lower this year, I wanted to talk myself into over 4.5 k’s at plus but couldn’t do it. Really want to see that total out prop pop up around 15.5! (Or even 14.5! That be crazy and could happen!). Most likely be 16.5
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Checked 3 books (including DK) and it's not out at any

The Coors thing always reminds me of Darryl Kile (RIP) and how revolutionary his move to Denver was for pitchers in general if they ever want to make that move
 
So Red Sox went from a top 10 ops team vs left handed pitchers last year to being dead last? Only team with a ops under .600 vs lhp?!? 17.5 outs for Perez higher than I wanted, I do think this park great for him, I’d lean rangers but some plus money would be nice!
 
KJ said:
Checked 3 books (including DK) and it's not out at any

The Coors thing always reminds me of Darryl Kile (RIP) and how revolutionary his move to Denver was for pitchers in general if they ever want to make that move
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Yea I dunno if they will ever put it out?
 
Man, why do Phillies insist on pitching Nola on 4 days rest so often? If you had a guy of this caliber and he was noticeably different on 4 and 5 days rest wouldn’t you try to pitch him on 5 as much a freakin possible??
 
Couldn’t wait around up here any longer, got shit to do plus out of cigs! Lol. So I tried a new prop for me w Gomber, bit risky but played his runs allowed under 3.5.. my fear would be even if he has really good start he leaves few guys on then gets pulled and pen let’s them score.
 
I really wanted to play Nola k’s over 5.5 but his history on 4 sucks ( compared to him on 5 or 6 days) and been pretty much same this season.
 
2daBank said:
Couldn’t wait around up here any longer, got shit to do plus out of cigs! Lol. So I tried a new prop for me w Gomber, bit risky but played his runs allowed under 3.5.. my fear would be even if he has really good start he leaves few guys on then gets pulled and pen let’s them score.
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No one has shit to do on a Sunday and you can get smokes at the casino

I really think you should move to E StL just to make this story complete
 
KJ said:
No one has shit to do on a Sunday and you can get smokes at the casino

I really think you should move to E StL just to make this story complete
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You havnt been able to get smokes at casino for ages! Can’t even smoke inside the damn place!

I hate moving and we like where we live, if I was gonna move it wouldn’t be to freaking east St. Louis! It be far away from here!! Lol.
 
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You havnt been able to get smokes at casino for ages! Can’t even smoke inside the damn place!

I hate moving and we like where we live, if I was gonna move it wouldn’t be to freaking east St. Louis! It be far away from here!! Lol.
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Formal one year was downtown StL, guys went Friday, girls not allowed til Saturday and Fri night was a riot

Several of us decide to go to a club in E StL, can't remember the name but think it started with B

Got lost and had to stop at a gas station to ask directions, couple of us pissing behind the dumpster, we're in a new 5.0

Completely felt like the Griswolds
 
KJ said:
Formal one year was downtown StL, guys went Friday, girls not allowed til Saturday and Fri night was a riot

Several of us decide to go to a club in E StL, can't remember the name but think it started with B

Got lost and had to stop at a gas station to ask directions, couple of us pissing behind the dumpster, we're in a new 5.0

Completely felt like the Griswolds
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I could live there but no chance my old lady go for it! Plus like I said I hate moving, if I was gonna do it we going somewhere without fucjing humidity!
 
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I could live there but no chance my old lady go for it! Plus like I said I hate moving, if I was gonna do it we going somewhere without fucjing humidity!
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Buddy still owns 3 rentals in StL and lives in Minny, cash cows

I couldn't live there and was joking about E StL...let's call it an experience.
 
KJ said:
Buddy still owns 3 rentals in StL and lives in Minny, cash cows

I couldn't live there and was joking about E StL...let's call it an experience.
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Prob not a good idea to live in the place everyone goes at 3am for a good time!! Lol
 
Looks like they just not gonna come with a out total for Gomber. I guess not a shock, they scurred!! Look how wrong they were with ranger Suarez yesterday!! Lol. No win situation for them here, they can’t possibly set it very high. I’d think 16.5 would be absolute most and don’t think that enough, my guess it would probably be 15.5 or even 14.5 which be cake!!
 
2daBank said:
Skubal ov 5.5 k’s -140. O’s 28th in league ops against lefties and strike out over 30% their AB’s. Get it while it hot, I think the juice already going up and wouldn’t be shocked if ticked up..
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Just realized that game in the 6th. 10 k’s for Skubal thru 5 innings! I saw he closed at 6.5 k’s as I thought it might but didn’t matter! I freaking love these things!
 
This is weird with the Gomber under 3.5 runs prop, I’m almost hoping his pitch count gets elevated without any damage being done so they yank him sooner!! Lol
 
Startling to look to me like they will be able to play the Sunday night game: system seems to be breaking up now that it here plus it basically here now so any rain should be bout finished by 1st pitch. Tough game tho, I’d lean to playing cards at this price, they can hit lefties and I think waino should be pretty good at home on Sunday night baseball.
 
2daBank said:
Startling to look to me like they will be able to play the Sunday night game: system seems to be breaking up now that it here plus it basically here now so any rain should be bout finished by 1st pitch. Tough game tho, I’d lean to playing cards at this price, they can hit lefties and I think waino should be pretty good at home on Sunday night baseball.
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Sounds like a system play coming

No chance any bar here will be showing that game tonight unless there's some skeezer in the corner that wants to see it
 
He had walked two straight but his fastball was still hitting 99 that inning. Reds reliever just walked the bases loaded on four pitches.
 
Final scoring lines in Pittsburgh

Cincy 0 4 0
Bucs 1 0 0

Warning to Penguins bettors....the Pirates might've sucked up all the luck today.
 
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