SEC Week 14 Discussion

gps_3

Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
On my phone so will clean up later.

Thurs:

LSU @ aTm

Fri:

Arkansas @ Mizzou

Sat:

Alabama v Auburn

Florida @ FSU

UGA vs Ga Tech

South Carolina @ Clemson

Kentucky @ Louisville

Miss St @ Ole Miss

Tennessee @ Vandy


Discuss...
 
Initial leans at lines I've seen: LSU, Arky, Georgia tech, SCAR, Louisville, miss st, Alabama

Some key injuries to look for in Ala/AU game. Expect updates today
 
Treon Harris expected to start for UF

Duke Williams day to day for AU

Amari Cooper, Cam Robinson, TJ Yeldon, DeAndrew White, and Adam Griffith expected to be fine for Alabama. Unsure on A'Shawn Robinson, Brian Vogler, and Ardarius Stewart

Please feel free to update injuries, especially the ACC guys
 
BATON ROUGE – LSU has petitioned the NCAA and the Southeastern Conference to wear white at home. … Got it.
LSU has asked the SEC to let it play as many night games at home as possible. … Got it.
LSU has begged, pleaded and ordered the SEC to change its West-East scheduling philosophy so it will not have to play Florida every season, but no one outside Louisiana has ever understood its "equitable scheduling" argument, including Florida. … Not happening.
Oh well, two out of three is not bad. So there may be room for another small request.
SEC OFFICE: "OK, LSU, what do you want now? Blackened redfish at all away games?"
LSU: "No, what we want is to not have to play on the Friday after Thanksgiving any more. You're making us play at Texas A&M on Thanksgiving this year, but there is no way we are ever playing at home on Thanksgiving. And we don't ever want a Thursday night home game."
SEC OFFICE: "All right, all right, we'll see what we can do."
LSU: "And there's one more little bitty thing."
SEC OFFICE: "Geez, what now?"
LSU: "Well, we have this tradition …"
SEC OFFICE (Interrupting): "Another tradition? We gave you the white jerseys at home. You got all night games this season. How many traditions can one school have?"
LSU: "Well, there's this thing about Halloween. It means a lot to us."
SEC OFFICE: "You won one big game on Billy Cannon's punt return 50 years ago, and you won't let it go."
LSU: "Yeah I know, but you've got to admit it was pretty cool."
SEC OFFICE: "We're not replaying that game on the network. There's the punt return and the goal-line stand. That's it."
LSU: "No, that's not it. We're wondering if you can move Saturday's Ole Miss game to Halloween Night."
SEC OFFICE: "What?"
LSU: "We have an open date on Nov. 1 so we could play on Halloween Night. It's a Friday."
SEC OFFICE: "Uh, small problem. Ole Miss plays Auburn on Nov. 1."
LSU: "To hell with Ole Miss. You've been helping us beat the Rebs ever since 1959 when Billy stepped out of bounds, not to mention the frozen clock in 1972. You've helped us beat them as much as you help Alabama beat us."
SEC OFFICE: "Yeah, yeah, yeah."
LSU: "We need this game on Halloween. It's our only chance. Ole Miss has its best team since it went undefeated in 1962 and its best defense since Johnny Vaught was coaching. This team is better than any of Archie's or Eli's teams. We're going to have to pull out all the stops just to keep up with them. Billy Cannon will be there. Doug Moreau will be there. Remember, he caught a tipped, two-point conversion pass in the final minutes to beat Ole Miss, 11-10, in 1964 – on Halloween Night. We've contacted the 13th Gate, too, to send some ghosts over. This is the 50th anniversary of that game."
SEC: "We just made Moreau an SEC legend."
LSU: "And we appreciate that. He deserves it."
SEC: "We can't move the game."
LSU: "Look, this is what you do. Give Ole Miss Nov. 1 off and move its game with Auburn on that day to Nov. 8. Ole Miss just has Presbyterian on Nov. 8, and Auburn only has Texas A&M. Both of those games can be eliminated. You saw what happened when Alabama beat A&M, 59-0. Does the SEC Network really want to carry Auburn beating A&M 65-0? Hell, you just eliminated Florida and Idaho back at the beginning of the season. You can do it again."
SEC: "Good idea. That's doable. What else you got?"
LSU: "Now, about the clock operator. We're going to need some help."
Twitter: @LSUBeatTweet
Ole Miss at LSU
 
What's wrong with UGA/Fla/USCe?
Thought the SEC only scheduled outta conference cupcakes?

I don't care when they play any game. I just want to be off work to see it.
 
forget who and in which thread, but the guy(s) who compared Wake/Vtech to LSU/Bama may need his CTG membership revoked.


forgiveness requested, if it was a partner here :)
 
forget who and in which thread, but the guy(s) who compared Wake/Vtech to LSU/Bama may need his CTG membership revoked.


forgiveness requested, if it was a partner here :)
:rofl: it is truly laughable

Id brush it off as trolling, but I fear it was 100% serious in context
 
How is the Messy St line not SCREAMING for money on the home team? I was so fired up to hammer the bulldogs before I saw it.
 
Even though my initial thoughts were MSU, I'm thinking I like the Rebs. Maybe I just want to know we won the west before our game kicks off
 
Wallace is going to be gimpy. He hurt his ankle badly at Arkansas. He would have to be in a wheelchair to sit this one out after last year, but I'm not sure how effective he can be. The Oline is awful, and without Treadwell there aren't any elite playmakers on the outside. For Ole Miss to win, Bo can't turn the ball over, and the D probably needs to create a couple of short fields. I'm not optimisitc.
 
GT had UGA and Huston Mason beat last year until second half collapse. Their offense is light years ahead of last year with as much offensive skill talent, particularly the WRs as their foe before the loss of Gurley. Defense may not be a beast but they are very opportunistic or lucky. 14.5 is silly. If Missouri beats arky Friday the play will be ml +375
 
Key injury news all courtesy of college football talk:
quote:
Auburn loses sacks leader for season before Iron Bowl

If Auburn was hoping to find ways to bring down Alabama quarterback Blake Sims, the Tigers may have to look for someone else on the defensive line to step up. Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn announced Tuesday defensive end DaVonte Lambert will miss the Iron Bowl and Auburn’s bowl game after undergoing season-ending surgery on his left knee on Monday.

“That’s a big blow for us,” Malzahn said, per The Montgomery Advertiser. “We’re going to need some guys to step up.”

Lambert led the defense with 3.5 sacks this season. Montravius Adams and Angelo Blackson each have three sacks. Adams is also second on the team in tackles for loss, so he may be the most likely name to watch try and fill the void left by Lambert.

Lambert had been listed as the starting defensive end for Auburn on this week’s depth chart for the Alabama game. Sophomore Elijah Daniel (3.5 tackles for loss, 1.0 sacks) is listed as his back-up.

“He’s a factor,” Malzahn said. “But we need some other guys to step up. Football’s a team game and when you’re playing against your rival, it’s got the ability to have guys step up and play better than they have all year, and that’s what we need.”

Getting sacks against Alabama is tough enough. The Crimson Tide have allowed just 10.0 sacks all season. Auburn has just 19.0 sacks this season as well. Losing one of their better sack specialists could be tough to overcome.
quote:
Auburn “hopeful” to get WR Duke Williams back for the Iron Bowl

Consecutive losses to Texas A&M and Georgia cost AP No. 15 Auburn any shot at competing for an SEC or national championship. Fortunately, the Tigers can still do the next best thing – keep AP No. 2 Alabama from doing the same.

To do so, it will need to be at full strength (or as close to full strength as a college football team can possibly be in late November) and that means having wide receiver D’haquille (Duke) Williams in the lineup.

Williams did not play in the Tigers’ 31-7 win over Samford on Saturday, but AL.com reports sources close to the wide receiver say he should be ready for Alabama.

“We are hoping he will be back this week,” head coach Gus Malzahn said. “I am not ready to make that call yet, but we are hopeful.”

Williams suffered a sprained MCL and a bruised knee in a second-quarter collision with Texas A&M defensive back De’Vante Harris in Auburn’s 41-38 loss to the Aggies on Nov. 8 and has not played since.

Auburn posted its worst offensive output of the Malzahn era in a 34-7 loss to Georgia on Nov. 15, as the Tigers compiled only 292 yards of total offense, averaging just 5.1 yards per pass and 4.3 yards per rush while accumulating a pedestrian 17 first downs (they average more than 24).

Williams leads the team with 38 grabs for 699 yards and five touchdowns. The junior is in his first year on the club after transferring from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College.

Auburn will visit Alabama at 7:45 p.m. ET on ESPN on Saturday.
 
I could have some faith in the Ole Miss defense here, but hard to have any in the Rebel offense. They looked lost and they do not do anything especially well on O. They know it. Can they essentially reinvent their offensive gameplan for this week? Will Bo avoid turnovers? Probably not. But Landshark D might still give them some hope in keeping it close. I'm closer to betting Miss St though.
 
I'm on the under there. Think LSU will be motivated not to lose 3 straight. Les always seems to get his guys ready, but it does seem that this week has given us some odd LSU games in the past, although against a different opponent.
 
By yet , you mean as a member of the SEC.
I remember some serious ass whoopins in the 90's
 
By yet , you mean as a member of the SEC.
I remember some serious ass whoopins in the 90's
yes of course

ya know when yall starting playing football

then of course there was the bowl,game before yall joined :tiphat:


Have a great day!!!
 
--if duke williams is not healthy (and I have my doubts), they get rolled. I guess I should be concerned that auburn is 7-2 (from memory) in t-town, but I'm not.

--Missouri not getting any respect and the total is shaved low

--boxscore from the Georgia/tech rivalry from last year will be duplicated

--fournette with his best walker impersonation, but shitty no-call on the offsides (I wasn't involved tho)

-- miss state earns a 10 point win just to get their hearts broken by the committee

--it would make a beautiful story to send muschamp out a winner (or even cover for that matter), but nope

--gun to my head, louisville

GLTA
 
Auburn's record in Tuscaloosa is impressive, although the game wasn't played there until mid 90's, and Alabama spent the majority of that time with reduced scholarships and Dubose, Franchione, and Shula as head coach. Even if Duke plays, I doubt he'll be 100%. The line has climbed too high for me to be involved there. Probably stay anyway and just be a fan

pretty much agree with everything you wrote
 
Auburn's record in Tuscaloosa is impressive, although the game wasn't played there until mid 90's, and Alabama spent the majority of that time with reduced scholarships and Dubose, Franchione, and Shula as head coach. Even if Duke plays, I doubt he'll be 100%. The line has climbed too high for me to be involved there. Probably stay anyway and just be a fan

pretty much agree with everything you wrote

yeah, it wasn't like that was a great run of coaching. Auburn will lose in the trenches on both sides and get curb stomped. Obviously I hope I am wrong, but this is about money, and I'm backing the payback in spades. Looking forward to seeing the props as well. Forgot to mention that I think UAB will get to go bowling....they have a good coach finally. Cheers.
 
I'm on the under there. Think LSU will be motivated not to lose 3 straight. Les always seems to get his guys ready, but it does seem that this week has given us some odd LSU games in the past, although against a different opponent.

Nice call on the under. Never in danger.
 
Definitely the superior team. Defense never a question in my mind.
The laundry was definitely onesided tho.
 
GT +375

be completely sick to knock off UGA and FSU back to back, no punting tomorrow, like Miami game, 4th downs and possession. I was rooting for the dogs today but they will be deflated for early game tomorrow and Justin Thomas can be electric.
 
Definitely the superior team. Defense never a question in my mind.
The laundry was definitely onesided tho.
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[TD]2-2[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
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[TD]228[/TD]
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[TD]107[/TD]
[TD]144[/TD]
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[TD]12-21[/TD]
[TD]17-27[/TD]
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[TD]5.1[/TD]
[TD]5.3[/TD]
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[TD]384[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
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[TD]57[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
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[TD]4.0[/TD]
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[TD]9-85[/TD]
[TD]3-25[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
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[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
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[TD]18:47[/TD]
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GT +375

be completely sick to knock off UGA and FSU back to back, no punting tomorrow, like Miami game, 4th downs and possession. I was rooting for the dogs today but they will be deflated for early game tomorrow and Justin Thomas can be electric.

I'm already on GT + the points. Will likely add a unit and sprinkle some on the ML.
 
Question. CKR didn't have his line move thread this week (no complaints, know he is busy) so I am wondering if Alabama is -11 everywhere or is it just my local being an in-state guy no doubt taking a ton of bets from Alabama fans
 
of course I always miss LSU conference games:shake:

You don't get a do over.
If the ref calls it incomplete, it's not a fumble. It wasn't reviewed. It was deemed an inadvertent whistle. Which it wasn't.
best case it's 4th and 1. You do not get distance without a stroke. I.E. it's not 3rd and 1.
The last play speaks for itself.
You're playing freshmen and sophs, yet feel the need to hold.
You're already the superior team.
The call came in. Bet what works for the conference.
 
Question. CKR didn't have his line move thread this week (no complaints, know he is busy) so I am wondering if Alabama is -11 everywhere or is it just my local being an in-state guy no doubt taking a ton of bets from Alabama fans

Have an online and a local. Seeing flat 10 online. Local is holding -11. Typical. Taking steam on Bama. Must say, I like em at either line.
 
You don't get a do over.
If the ref calls it incomplete, it's not a fumble. It wasn't reviewed. It was deemed an inadvertent whistle. Which it wasn't.
best case it's 4th and 1. You do not get distance without a stroke. I.E. it's not 3rd and 1.
The last play speaks for itself.
You're playing freshmen and sophs, yet feel the need to hold.
You're already the superior team.
The call came in. Bet what works for the conference.
They missed an offsides I get it. Should have been called, sure. You saw the game and I posted the boxscore. The game wasn't poorly officiated though, do you really think?

Not sure this holding thing you keep referring to....

And when you say playing frosh and soph, clearly speaking about the Tigers I would assume right..

Also what agenda does the conference have for a shitty LSU team?

Glad the game is back tho. Look forward to trying for 5-0:shake:
 
Thinking about this Alabama line...what would you have it at Auburn? Bama was -4' at Ole Miss, -6 or so at LSU. Does this -9 seem low? Maybe the -11 (while inflated on local action) would seem more accurate no? Bryant-Denny and Jordan-Hare is probably worth more than the typical 3 pts homefield.
 
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