Saturday Discussion

[bee172]

<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#800000 height=20><TD width=225>Saturday, February 23, 2008</TD><TD width=75 bgColor=#ffffff>Game/2ndH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>2ndQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>3rdQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>4thQ</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#003366 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>#</TD><TD width=200>Team Name </TD><TD align=right width=95>Spread </TD><TD align=middle width=95>Total</TD><TD align=middle width=55>MoneyLn</TD><TD align=right width=85>T1 Total </TD><TD align=right width=85>T2 Total </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>7:35 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>703</TD><TD width=180>Indiana Pacers</TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>704</TD><TD width=180>New Jersey Nets</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-3½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>201½</TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>8:35 pm (NBA) </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>707</TD><TD width=180>New Orleans Hornets</TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>708</TD><TD width=180>San Antonio Spurs</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-6½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>184½</TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>8:35 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>709</TD><TD width=180>Denver Nuggets</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-3½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>211½</TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>710</TD><TD width=180>Milwaukee Bucks</TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>9:05 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>711</TD><TD width=180>Atlanta Hawks</TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>712</TD><TD width=180>Utah Jazz</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-13½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>208</TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>10:35 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>713</TD><TD width=180>Los Angeles Lakers</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-10</TD><TD align=middle width=85>208½</TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>714</TD><TD width=180>Los Angeles Clippers</TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD align=middle width=85></TD><TD width=45></TD><TD width=85></TD><TD width=85></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Throwback420]

damn -10

 

[bee172]

first off... clippers blew out jazz tonight.. definitely thinking they are not going to duplicate that performance again tmrw against the lakeshow..

thus, leaning on lakers 1st H, lakers -10, and also the OVER

also, hawks + jazz OVER .. 208 is attainable with both teams playing tonight, ATL seems to give up tons of points on the road (at least on this current road trip).. jazz come back after their debacle against the clips should be motivated to run ATL out of their gym.. but do I want to lay 2 TD's with them? doubt it ...

 

[brewer]

spurs get revenge?

 

[bee172]

-10 is only 1 TD and 1 FG .. kobe and gasol should push them out in front early and the bench should hold down the fort the rest of the way.. i see that trend going forward for this lakers team .. kobe, but more so phil realizes that once they control the game.. kobe can get his rest and their bench will give them quality mins.. they roll 10 guys out there jeebus

 

[Throwback420]

should cap ncaa

 

[lifesallover]

Am I square for loving Utah?

Atlanta 4th in 5, coming off a big win in Golden St tonight. I watched that game pretty closely, this team can go through lulls, where they go from looking like a pretty good team, to a mediocre harlem globetrotters routine. There was on atleast two occasions, where for a good 4-5 minute stretches where they turned the ball over, time and time again, with just no regard to the game itself (Josh Childress impressed me a little though).

Utah, despite this loss tonight, has been routinely blowing teams out, and will want to atone for tonight, with a big victory tomorrow. Every game is crucial, and despite this win tonight, Atlanta is one of the worst road teams in the league, and I think their high off tonights victory will be their downfall.

I think 13.5 is absurd, but it's begging you to take Atlanta, double digit win against GS, Bibby Trade, etc.. Utah losing to LAC.. 13.5 is huge. But it's like Detroit tonight, -12, after the first quarter they were covering the entire game, and yeah in the last 6 minutes, it could've gone either way, but Deroits depth is good enough to keep it up. I guess the question is, is Utahs. I'm not sure it is.

 

[Throwback420]

uconn over nova ? looks like a trap at 1.5 bit nove beat Uconn at uconn last year, revenge and this uconn team is stacked, nova isnt that good this year. Hate the short line looks like a trap.

 

[bee172]

atl should be happy with their big win tonight and come out flat, they almost blew it at certain points during the 2nd H.. maybe Jazz 1st H? utah's frontline will be able to deal with josh smith and horford inside.. joe johnson and derron williams should be a matchup dwill should win..

 

[brewer]

bibby on brewer? brewer will own him down low.

 

[B.A.R.]

spurs get revenge?

isn't it double revenge?

 

[tuck321]

I will probably play 66ers and will certainly play Hornets. Double revenge in this contex is Nothing. The Hornets did not give a damn about Houston. They really do not like Dallas. Now multiply that by 10 and you get their feelings toward Spurs. Take a long look at that 80 points they scored and then go look at their gamelogs and see what happens the next game after they score in the 80's or below. I imagine we get to see Bonzi Spurs Killer tomorrow too.

 

[bee172]

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=matchupHeader colSpan=6> </TD><TD class=matchupHeader colSpan=2>Shooting </TD><TD class=matchupHeader colSpan=2>3pt shots</TD><TD class=matchupHeader colSpan=2>Free Throws</TD><TD class=matchupHeader colSpan=2>Rebounds</TD><TD class=matchupHeader> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Date</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Teams</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Score</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Line</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Result</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Half</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>FGM-A</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Pct</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>FGM-A</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Pct</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>FTM-A</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Pct</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>Tot.</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>OFF</TD><TD class=matchupSubHeader>TO</TD></TR></TR><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">01/26/2008</TD><TD class="matchupCells Text">NEW ORLEANS</TD><TD class=matchupCells>102</TD><TD class=matchupCells>183.5</TD><TD class="matchupCells Text">SU ATS</TD><TD class=matchupCells>42</TD><TD class=matchupCells>44-81</TD><TD class=good>54.3%</TD><TD class=matchupCells>7-19</TD><TD class=matchupCells>36.8%</TD><TD class=matchupCells>7-9</TD><TD class=good>77.8%</TD><TD class=matchupCells>50</TD><TD class=bad>7</TD><TD class=good>11</TD></TR><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text"> </TD><TD class="matchupCells Text">SAN ANTONIO</TD><TD class=matchupCells>78</TD><TD class=matchupCells>-6</TD><TD class="matchupCells Text">Under</TD><TD class=matchupCells>43</TD><TD class=matchupCells>33-79</TD><TD class=bad>41.8%</TD><TD class=matchupCells>2-20</TD><TD class=bad>10.0%</TD><TD class=matchupCells>10-13</TD><TD class=good>76.9%</TD><TD class=bad>38</TD><TD class=bad>8</TD><TD class=good>11</TD></TR><TR><TD class="matchupCellsWhite Text">11/09/2007</TD><TD class="matchupCellsWhite Text">SAN ANTONIO</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>97</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>-3</TD><TD class="matchupCellsWhite Text">SU ATS</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>52</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>40-77</TD><TD class=goodWhite>51.9%</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>4-15</TD><TD class=badWhite>26.7%</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>13-18</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>72.2%</TD><TD class=badWhite>45</TD><TD class=badWhite>7</TD><TD class=goodWhite>10</TD></TR><TR><TD class="matchupCellsWhite Text"> </TD><TD class="matchupCellsWhite Text">NEW ORLEANS</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>85</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>187.5</TD><TD class="matchupCellsWhite Text">Under</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>45</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>35-81</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>43.2%</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>4-15</TD><TD class=badWhite>26.7%</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>11-17</TD><TD class=badWhite>64.7%</TD><TD class=matchupCellsWhite>49</TD><TD class=badWhite>9</TD><TD class=goodWhite>9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

its going to tough to go into s.a. and repeat their previous game.. 21-6 advantage on 3s, on top of out rebounding spurs by 12 and shooting over 50% .. under is already getting smacked.. l3 matchup they averaging about 180.5 ish .. nawlins also playing 4th in 5 nights + travel against a spurs team that know they squeaked one out in minny the other night.. i like the champs .. duno if ima play em though.. just hard to see nawlins bouncing back after getting trampled with a short bench.. but they are 17-8-1 ats on the road, 3-3 ats in l6 road games.. also nawlins is 7-3-1 ats on b2b..

 

[Master P]

card really sucks

pacers won at home vs the nets w/o jermaine and tinsley even with rj dropping 34 points, "the point guard of the future" devin harris is still out 10 days, will nets get revenge, too close to call, more like a toss up imo

hornets looked asleep against the rockets today, will they come to play against the spurs to battle for the top spot in the west? 3rd game in 4 nights for the hornets while spurs are off a day rest, road teams has won the past two matchups this year by double digits, looks like another toss up to me

denver can run and score, but they really dont play any defense on the road, -3.5 looks like money but so did yesterday against the bulls, bucks have showed some stuff at home and have a lot more healthy bodies now, is this another trap, take your pick

jazz looks like money but that is too much chalk

lakers looks like money too but again too much chalk

AGAIN card really sucks

 

[BetCrimes1984]

All stats based on opening lines & regulation scores.
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Home teams are 10-1 SU & 10-0-1 ATS in Philly's last 11 games

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San Antonio is 5-0 to Under their last 5 home games, and 7-0 to Under their last 7 home games vs teams with winning records.

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Nawlins is 10-3 ATS their last 13 on the road.

Nawlins is O/U 9-17 away, vs O/U 17-10 at home, this season.

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After starting the season 11-1 to Under on the road, Atlanta is 8-2 to Over their last 10 road games.

Atlanta has not played in 4 straight games surpassing 200 points this season (215, 226, 227 their last 3).

Atlanta is 3-8 ATS their last 11 road games as a Dog.

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Utah is 10-2 to Under following their last 12 losses.

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Denver is 11-4 to Over off their last 15 losses.

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Charlotte is 4-1 to Under in their last 5 B2B situations off an Over result the night before.

Teams playing first off a 1-3 point margin 230/100-100 game are 16-5 to Under since the 05-06 season.

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Washington is 16-2 to Under their last 18 home games (only once surpassing 200 pts in regulation).

Washington has totaled 202 & 212 pts @Charlotte this season.

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[Marlo]

Bet I posted in your trends thread...about the 230/100/100 let me know what you think....im pretty sure you summed it up witht he post above

 

[tuck321]

Till they put a number up its hard to commit to a play but do not get scared about the 66ers. If you played them yesterday you got a well deserved loss. If you play them today in the b-b role you are a real favorite. Last 14 times 66ers played on the road b-b they were 10-4 su. As I have said on many occasions you do Not play them on the first game of a b-b. You play them on the back side. Utah first half is growing on me.

 

[iceman5691]

I think the LAL line covering machine wins tonight at home. For there to even be Home/Away in this game is a joke. LAL is on 1 day rest and are fresh where LAC is coming off a huge win vs Utah last night and may not be up to running with LAL all night tonight.