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Apr 1 Sat 2023

01:10 PM
963Chicago White SoxL. Giolito -R+123O 8
-125
964Houston AstrosJ. Urquidy -R+1 Markets-133U 8
+105
01:15 PM
975Toronto Blue JaysK. Gausman -R-129O 8
-105
976St. Louis CardinalsJ. Flaherty -R+1 Markets+119U 8
-115
01:20 PM
951Milwaukee BrewersB. Woodruff -R-130
952Chicago CubsJ. Steele -L+1 Markets+120
03:05 PM
953Atlanta BravesS. Strider -R-270O 8
-115
954Washington NationalsJ. Gray -R+1 Markets+241U 8
-105
03:05 PM
977Philadelphia PhilliesZ. Wheeler -R-127O 7½
-115
978Texas RangersN. Eovaldi -R+1 Markets+117U 7½
-105
03:05 PM
979San Francisco GiantsA. Cobb -R+123O 8½
-103
980New York YankeesC. Schmidt -R+1 Markets-133U 8½
-117
03:07 PM
965Los Angeles AngelsP. Sandoval -L-158O 7½
-120
966Oakland AthleticsS. Fujinami -R+1 Markets+146U 7½
+100
03:10 PM
955New York MetsT. Megill -R-121O 7½
-120
956Miami MarlinsE. Cabrera -R+1 Markets+111U 7½
+100
03:10 PM
957Pittsburgh PiratesR. Hill -L+128O 8½
-105
958Cincinnati RedsN. Lodolo -L+1 Markets-138U 8½
-115
03:10 PM
967Detroit TigersS. Turnbull -R+157O 8
-110
968Tampa Bay RaysZ. Eflin -R+1 Markets-171U 8
-110
03:10 PM
969Minnesota TwinsS. Gray -R-161O 9
+105
970Kansas City RoyalsJ. Lyles -R+1 Markets+148U 9
-125
03:10 PM
971Baltimore OriolesD. Kremer -R+152O 9
-110
972Boston Red SoxC. Sale -L+1 Markets-165U 9
-110
07:40 PM
959Colorado RockiesJ. Urena -R+188O 8½
-105
960San Diego PadresM. Wacha -R+1 Markets-205U 8½
-115
08:10 PM
961Arizona DiamondbacksM. Bumgarner -L+214O 7½
-120
962Los Angeles DodgersC. Kershaw -L+1 Markets-238U 7½
+100
08:40 PM
973Cleveland GuardiansA. Civale -R+123O 7½
+100
974Seattle MarinersL. Gilbert -R+1 Markets-133U 7½
-120
 
detroits got the better pitcher and are getting +160. Then the white sox/cubs/miami/orioles also at plus value and i think some 50 50 games in there

I don't know who fujinami is but athletics hit ohtani pretty good for not much to show for it before the pen. A's could be a sneaky dog like they were at times last year
 
Only went 1-2 on totals/sides but smashed hitter props and the 2 k props, wasn’t able to hit any the lotto ticket steal parlays but I’m hitting one of those!

Hard not to like cubbies at plus money again, im a huge fan of Steele, he took longer than some to come into his own but not that uncommon and really like what I saw last year. Most importantly is he very good limiting home runs which really the only way brewers can generate offense. I think he goes 5+ and holds milw to next to nothing, like the miw Ff tt under and steele over 6.5 k’a also. Woodruff not known as a fast starter and he only has a 2-2 record vs cubs In 14 starts so they get him out the game with a chance to win. Like what cubs did with the offseason moves to improve the lineup. Just think they a better team and don’t think the pitching edge some ppl might think Milw has is there in this one.
 
I really like Cobb,,always have, his high ground ball rate should come in handy in the bronx with a really strong wind blowing out and he also gets plenty of swing and miss against a Yankees team Webb struck out 12x the other day! The only problem is Cobb never been know as a strong starter as March/April easily been his worst months. However he has looked fantastic this spring with 16 k’s and no walks in his last 11 innings so that gives me some hope here. Gotta love his k prop over 4.5 -110. I don’t know anything bout this guy yanks pitching, he mostly has came out the pen so assuming they gonna have to piece this game together, his gb/fb rate isn’t great and again we have very strong winds blowing out In bronx. Not sure I want to back that giants lineup I saw other day, lean sf 1st 5 but think Cobb over 4.5k’s probably the best bet.
 
Conditions set up pretty well for a Ff under In the Philly/rangers game. I like both pitchers to have more success than their counterparts in game 1 and we got a really strong wind blowing in. Wheeler last spring session was a few weeks back but he been pretty good on longer rest. Not sure I make a play here but that be my lean.
 
That all I can do right now, gonna get little more sleep, go over rest the card, find some steal props! And hitter props as those went way better than I coulda imagined yesterday. Finish card and see what we come up with.
 
I dunno if it gonna keep up like this all afternoon just know it is crazy freaking windy in stl today. It blowing way harder than the 21mph it says during game at moment, maybe it dies down but right now they more like 40+.
 
If you are going to bet on a starting pitcher, play strikeouts/outs recorded props or 1st five

Betting on a pitching matchup is destruction in this market, games seem to start in the 5th inning or so
 
KJ said:
If you are going to bet on a starting pitcher, play strikeouts/outs recorded props or 1st five

Betting on a pitching matchup is destruction in this market, games seem to start in the 5th inning or so
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Or get to know pens, it’s mostly been this way for last several years. Not many guys going past 6 anymore.
 
It’s hard imo to not take the Mariners- .5 ff. Should be a good bounce back behind Gilbert. I trust him more than any other M’s starter.
 
2daBank said:
Or get to know pens, it’s mostly been this way for last several years. Not many guys going past 6 anymore.
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I think anyone who's betting cash knows pens well

Gets exhausting reading posts where the actual result is based on two pitchers

Why I try and ultimately fail at this sport, betting on starter v starter is not relevant to the result to me now, that's the change I hope that is lucrative
 
More interested in betting against starters f5 if anything, trying to find that is way more important than betting on them first 5 or whatever. I want the rag arms.
 
Win4L said:
It’s hard imo to not take the Mariners- .5 ff. Should be a good bounce back behind Gilbert. I trust him more than any other M’s starter.
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I’m a huge Gilbert fan but felt like anytime I played seattle Ff w him pitching last year Mfers struggled to score runs against all kinds of average pitchers. I might look at cle Ff tt under or something.
 
pressitup said:
Pirates
Royals
Tigers U
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I really like Lodolo for reds, I dunno how much has changed for pirates but last year they were not good vs lhp. That said even tho I’ve always thought rich hill was a bum he prob crafty enough to deal w cincy lineup, think reds pen pretty much sucks. I was looking Ff under but they have a crazy strong wind blowing out in that band box today. Kinda having a tough time w these places like here in stl with the strong winds, if it was like this in summer I know ball would be flying, not sure tho since the wind is making it awfully chilly?
 
Pressing early in this shit is terrible for the bankroll

My take after two days and would likely be my take for the last 40 years
 
If the weather in Boston didn’t look so awful I’d be all over O’s again. Boston pitchers walking guys all over the place in game one, you do that vs O’s they gonna tee off. How long sale actually pitch? Prob not that long. Maybe the weather could be favorable to O’s if they actually played the game which I have no idea if they will.
 
I dunno if I’m playing rox but that price is silly. Ppl gonna go broke laying that thinking pads gotta win, I watched these Mfers not score anything for like a month last year, think they can’t keep struggling to score if ya want to. Instead of a good hitter in bell in the middle they have a way past his prime Cruz hitting 4th. Some these guys will get going eventually but soto so patient if machado not raking they could continue not scoring runs this weekend and beyond. Gotta be crazy to be laying -220s.
 
I know it’s early but Padres are looking like they might be the worst team to back in terms of odds and expectations vs actual results
 
KJ said:
I think anyone who's betting cash knows pens well

Gets exhausting reading posts where the actual result is based on two pitchers

Why I try and ultimately fail at this sport, betting on starter v starter is not relevant to the result to me now, that's the change I hope that is lucrative
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They still typically make up over half of the game and 100% of first 5 bets
 
peelpub94 said:
Giolito o4.5k -150 was Berryhorse's pick earlier, it went up a full strikeout in literally 30 seconds of him posting his pick.
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I got it like -110 or sone shit, him and cobb hardly had any juice this morning. We see how long DK let’s me play what I want on app but I love not having to wait till the casino opens and get fucjed on prices!

No idea who berryhorse is?
 
For some reason when I was over there steele was off board, he back up now but I think I like cubs Ff better than him getting 7k’’s anyways. Another game w strong wind blowing out but probably feels cold as balls so I dunno if ball flies in that or not but steele does a better job of keeping ball on ground than woodruff.
 
2daBank said:
I got it like -110 or sone shit, him and cobb hardly had any juice this morning. We see how long DK let’s me play what I want on app but I love not having to wait till the casino opens and get fucjed on prices!

No idea who berryhorse is?
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BM holding 4.5 at -190.
 
Im sorry I thought I posted Giolito early this morning w cobb, I was still kinda out of it. I’ll make sure when I’m playing them early morning I’ll post them when I do cause I know these things move a lot.
 
I assume it same in Chicago but it truly a awful day for baseball here in stl. This wind still whipping and it is not pleasant
 
Inspekdah said:
Their lineup isn’t good after 1-3 and those guys themselves are streaky
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I think that a bit harsh, I like a lot their guys other than the big names. Cronenworth a good hitter, Nola solid for a catcher, Kim can be a tough out. No clue why they putting a washed up Cruz in the cleanup spot? Tatis will help lengthen the lineup and maybe more importantly bring a much needed spark to that team, feel like they missing that without him. Soto is great and all but I think he patient to a fault, just goes about his business and will take his walks but way lineup was constructed yesterday yiu just don’t give him anything to hit, nibble at corners and maybe you catch him looking or get soft contact, worst case you walk him but not a huge deal until manny gets hot, you really don’t have to challenge either one of them at the moment. I think they just lack a certain fire/passion that tatis brings in bunches.
 
2daBank said:
I think that a bit harsh, I like a lot their guys other than the big names. Cronenworth a good hitter, Nola solid for a catcher, Kim can be a tough out. No clue why they putting a washed up Cruz in the cleanup spot? Tatis will help lengthen the lineup and maybe more importantly bring a much needed spark to that team, feel like they missing that without him. Soto is great and all but I think he patient to a fault, just goes about his business and will take his walks but way lineup was constructed yesterday yiu just don’t give him anything to hit, nibble at corners and maybe you catch him looking or get soft contact, worst case you walk him but not a huge deal until manny gets hot, you really don’t have to challenge either one of them at the moment. I think they just lack a certain fire/passion that tatis brings in bunches.
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Don’t think we ever see Soto live up to that trade in that park.
 
Inspekdah said:
Don’t think we ever see Soto live up to that trade in that park.
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I don’t think the park has anything to do with it. For most part it plays pretty fair since they have brought fences in doesn’t it? Make no mistake he a fantastic player, he prob has the best eye and understanding of strike zone in the game but I dunno im giving a guy who just as happy to take a walk and move the line as hit a game winning hr 400 mil?!? At some point I need my star to say the hell with taking pitches even if I gotta expand the zone a bit I’m gonna make something happen. Once he in middle of tatis, machado, bogarts, it might work out but times like now they need more than a walk or a strike out lookiing, they need him to carry the offense and he just not that guy.
 
Not sure how the home team will ever compete w/the Dodgers but can say I'm pretty good with a ho-hum season this year and hoping SD fall off a cliff, AZ are better equipped financially than the Padres are. Going to take a lull in Dodgers spending and contracts blowing up, think we figured this a couple years ago and next season is finally when AZ should compete. Prospects galore.
 
KJ said:
Not sure how the home team will ever compete w/the Dodgers but can say I'm pretty good with a ho-hum season this year and hoping SD fall off a cliff, AZ are better equipped financially than the Padres are. Going to take a lull in Dodgers spending and contracts blowing up, think we figured this a couple years ago and next season is finally when AZ should compete. Prospects galore.
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I dunno Exactky who spending what but I gotta believe pads payroll is very close if not as high as lad. I think it certainly possible it doesn’t work out, other than Darvish who I guess hurt? Their rotation has talent but also inconsistency out the ass. Im pretty confident the lineup will get super hot when tatis comes back but the Mets have proven over and over again simply throwing money around doesn’t guarantee anything. Problem w next few years dodgers are gearing up to go all in on Ohtani, they really gonna be a Mfer when that happens. I’ve read bunch of places snakes have one the more exciting young outfields in the league, it be cool if they could get out from underneath that terrible contract they gave madbum and get another pitcher.
 
Pads just gave cronenworth a 7 year 80 mil extension today, they very Braves in they got lot of their core locked up long term. Dunno what happens w soto? Not sure they gonna be able to afford him also, or even if they should give him what he wants? Im torn on that guy, being patient and having a great eye is nice but you really wanna give a guy 400 mil who just as happy walking and passing the buck in the big moment? Not sure.
 
2daBank said:
I dunno Exactky who spending what but I gotta believe pads payroll is very close if not as high as lad. I think it certainly possible it doesn’t work out, other than Darvish who I guess hurt? Their rotation has talent but also inconsistency out the ass. Im pretty confident the lineup will get super hot when tatis comes back but the Mets have proven over and over again simply throwing money around doesn’t guarantee anything. Problem w next few years dodgers are gearing up to go all in on Ohtani, they really gonna be a Mfer when that happens. I’ve read bunch of places snakes have one the more exciting young outfields in the league, it be cool if they could get out from underneath that terrible contract they gave madbum and get another pitcher.
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Got the kid starting in CF now, got Andruw Jones kid coming

Then the stud catcher prospect we got from Toronto

Not like you can take down Goliath without a bit of time and some weapons, but it's coming around
 
KJ said:
Got the kid starting in CF now, got Andruw Jones kid coming

Then the stud catcher prospect we got from Toronto

Not like you can take down Goliath without a bit of time and some weapons, but it's coming around
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Kelly has kinda started coming into his own also, good trade piece or suppose one can DH, that when yadi started getting on my nerves when we could never get playing time for Kelly cause yadi refused to sit. Worked out since he was part the goldy trade but yadi was hell bent on holding back any our catching prospects to the point when he finally left we had to go out and sign a catcher, it is nice having offense back out of that position since yadi hadn’t hit shit in years.
 
2daBank said:
Kelly has kinda started coming into his own also, good trade piece or suppose one can DH, that when yadi started getting on my nerves when we could never get playing time for Kelly cause yadi refused to sit. Worked out since he was part the goldy trade but yadi was hell bent on holding back any our catching prospects to the point when he finally left we had to go out and sign a catcher, it is nice having offense back out of that position since yadi hadn’t hit shit in years.
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Man I haven't watched one pitch, haven't even given much thought to this team but did know Carroll was in CF, no clue that Moreno was catching and thats all on the broken arm. Kelly will never get that spot back so maybe DH, not like he sucks at hitting.

Need to catch up, hard to care about it when so much is going on this time of year. We got KD!
 
KJ said:
Man I haven't watched one pitch, haven't even given much thought to this team but did know Carroll was in CF, no clue that Moreno was catching and thats all on the broken arm. Kelly will never get that spot back so maybe DH, not like he sucks at hitting.

Need to catch up, hard to care about it when so much is going on this time of year. We got KD!
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Shoot, I drop everything else for baseball, only sport I’m confident im gonna win money, it also my favorite to cap, maybe not watch but love capping it. I was just saying in ncaa thread I have no clue what to do, ucon been my winner all tourney, they only team left who fit the criteria. I can’t lay -5 vs canes tho, no clue what happens on the other side but I’m confident ucon smashes either of them. Ucon to win it all -125 might be only bet I can make.
 
2daBank said:
Shoot, I drop everything else for baseball, only sport I’m confident im gonna win money, it also my favorite to cap, maybe not watch but love capping it. I was just saying in ncaa thread I have no clue what to do, ucon been my winner all tourney, they only team left who fit the criteria. I can’t lay -5 vs canes tho, no clue what happens on the other side but I’m confident ucon smashes either of them. Ucon to win it all -125 might be only bet I can make.
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I'm single, this is the season I pretend some chick in a sundress actually enjoys my company

Baseball is a convenient date night
 
Steele got his k’s but instead I push on cubs FF, and of course they score a run in 6th, cock suckers. Giolito cashes his k’s.
 
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