Russell Westbrook to undergo surgery for a meniscus tear in his right knee

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It was intentional...to harass Westbrook. It was not intentional to harm him.

I don't like the play. Its obvious that a player is going to the sideline, turns their body and calls timeout. Players think they can get around the corner before the timeout is called, but it doesn't work. The only thing that can happen if you don't get the ball, is an injury. This is probably the first time, but it should be the last.

Its not considered dirty, because it appears to be a harmless foul, running into a guy. But, if you are the Rockets, you want to mess with RW, then you do this intentionally to harass RW...and that to me is dirty, but yet within the rules. I'd like to see it taken out of the game, call it a Flagrant 1. Its very similiar to landing in a jumpshooters area (like Dahntay Jones did to Kobe, which caused him to turn an ankle.), its got the potential to cause enough injury to lose a couple games...it should be a Flagrant 1.

 

[nbafan88]

Well yes it was clear that he was trying harass him and get in his head and it worked. But he didnt intentionally try to injure him. That's a bit of a stretch.

 

[CASH]

how he played the rest of the game the other night is very impressive

it is a torn meniscus,, not an acl,,, gimme a break,,, stings for the first 30 minutes,,, get a shot and move on...

 

[nbafan88]

LOL at anyone thinking westbrook isn't top 10.

Please give me your top 10 players.

 

[nbafan88]

@Jonathan_Feigen: Pat Beverley: "A lot of people do it throughout the league. I don’t go out to try and hurt anybody. I tried to make a play on the ball."

 

[play ball]

Top 10 from PER
LeBron-Durant-CP3-Melo

Brook Lopez-Duncan-Wade-Wesbrook-Tony Parker-Kobe

Others in Convo...
Harden-Blake Griffin-Kyrie-Curry-Wall- D Will and I will throw in Kevin Love.

Westbrook definitely in the conversation for being a Top 10 player.

 

[sportjunky]

Top 10 from PER
LeBron-Durant-CP3-Melo

Brook Lopez-Duncan-Wade-Wesbrook-Tony Parker-Kobe

Others in Convo...
Harden-Blake Griffin-Kyrie-Curry-Wall- D Will and I will throw in Kevin Love.

Westbrook definitely in the conversation for being a Top 10 player.

That's a good list

After bron/kd I got Westy in that tier 2 group along with cp3/melo/harden/kobe/ (before the injury. Not anymore tho)/wade

Marc might be in that second tier as well. Dwight will rejoin that tier next year when he shows he's finally fully back, but not right now.

So at worst Westbrook is 8th overall after bron/kd/cp3/melo/harden/wade/Marc.

I have him higher than that tho. Nba your turn. List your 10 players better than Westbrook.

 

[raems]

Fan, you are part of the .01% of basketball fans in the entire world who thinks Westbrook isn't a top 10 player.

You really have to take a look this offseason at new analytics and generally study the direction in which the sport of basketball is played, a lot of the platitudes you believe in are no longer the truth.

You wanna debate if Westbrook is top 6 or 7? Yeah, that's worth a debate. Top 10? That shows a blatant bias and lack of understanding.

 

[raems]

James, durant, Paul, wade, melo, harden, Duncan, Parker. Those are the only players in the nba that are clearly/in the discussion as westbrook's peers or superiors. After that, you're discussing torn Achilles, torn acl's, broken hands, and guys that are designated hitters and only play offense. "Is Russell Westbrook a top 10 player" isn't even a debate right now.

 

[Play2win]

Yup. No more Westbrick...

 

[CASH]

James, durant, Paul, wade, melo, harden, Duncan, Parker. Those are the only players in the nba that are clearly/in the discussion as westbrook's peers or superiors. After that, you're discussing torn Achilles, torn acl's, broken hands, and guys that are designated hitters and only play offense. "Is Russell Westbrook a top 10 player" isn't even a debate right now.

very tough to say Melo playing defense,,,, even in the Celts series..

 

[raems]

Matt Moore----good writer at CBS

Most Underrated Point Guard: Russell Westbrook
The top five players in Win Shares, via Basketball-Reference: 1. LeBron James 2. Kevin Durant 3. Chris Paul 4. James Harden. 5. Russell Westbrook.
The top five players in assist percentage via Basketball-Reference: 1. Chris Paul 2. Tony Parker 3. Jose Calderon 4. Russell Westbrook.
Top players in PER, Westbrook is ninth.
Top guards in rebound rate (minimum 20 minutes per game played), Westbrook is third.
He's No. 1 in usage, which you can make jokes about, but the fact is that often results in a huge drain on efficiency.
Fourth in points per 36 among guards playing 20 minutes, 11th among guards playing 20 minutes in assists per 36 minutes, the list goes on and on.
Kevin Durant gets the accolades. Westbrook gets the criticism.
Westbrook has been phenomenal this year, as he was last year, and were he on his own team, we'd be talking about him as a fringe MVP candidate the same way we talk about James Harden. Instead, he is mocked for his fashion sense and told to give the ball to Durant more.
Westbrook should be applauded for the burden he carries for OKC as their only other significant consistent offensive contributor and for the adaptation he's made to be more of a distributor since Harden was traded. But no one seems to like that story as much as "Should the Thunder have kept James Harden and traded Russell Westbrook?" So the same story goes on.
Westbrook has been the best point guard no one seems to notice has been great.

 

[raems]

very tough to say Melo playing defense,,,, even in the Celts series..

What I mean is that Melo is clearly a top 10 player right now. when I referred to the DH's, I was referring to the "other" guys you can try and come up with, i.e. Curry, Kyrie, Brook, etc.

Forgot to mention Marc Gasol, he's up there too.

 

[CASH]

What I mean is that Melo is clearly a top 10 player right now. when I referred to the DH's, I was referring to the "other" guys you can try and come up with, i.e. Curry, Kyrie, Brook, etc.

Forgot to mention Marc Gasol, he's up there too.

I got ya,, just had to throw that out there...

 

[guaranteeed]

Matt Moore----good writer at CBS

Most Underrated Point Guard: Russell Westbrook
The top five players in Win Shares, via Basketball-Reference: 1. LeBron James 2. Kevin Durant 3. Chris Paul 4. James Harden. 5. Russell Westbrook.
The top five players in assist percentage via Basketball-Reference: 1. Chris Paul 2. Tony Parker 3. Jose Calderon 4. Russell Westbrook.
Top players in PER, Westbrook is ninth.
Top guards in rebound rate (minimum 20 minutes per game played), Westbrook is third.
He's No. 1 in usage, which you can make jokes about, but the fact is that often results in a huge drain on efficiency.
Fourth in points per 36 among guards playing 20 minutes, 11th among guards playing 20 minutes in assists per 36 minutes, the list goes on and on.
Kevin Durant gets the accolades. Westbrook gets the criticism.
Westbrook has been phenomenal this year, as he was last year, and were he on his own team, we'd be talking about him as a fringe MVP candidate the same way we talk about James Harden. Instead, he is mocked for his fashion sense and told to give the ball to Durant more.
Westbrook should be applauded for the burden he carries for OKC as their only other significant consistent offensive contributor and for the adaptation he's made to be more of a distributor since Harden was traded. But no one seems to like that story as much as "Should the Thunder have kept James Harden and traded Russell Westbrook?" So the same story goes on.
Westbrook has been the best point guard no one seems to notice has been great.

preach

 

[Toronto_Mike]

nbafan do you just try to make these remakes just for the sake of it? Cause really now I"m starting to see why others think you are a bit of a clown....

 

[Toronto_Mike]

Please give me your top 10 players.

no no... please give me YOUR top 10 players

 

[cogenman]

nbafan do you just try to make these remakes just for the sake of it? Cause really now I"m starting to see why others think you are a bit of a clown....

He continually says stupid shit. He's a blankets reject that has brought his antics over here at CTG.

 

[reNew Orleans]

ignorance is bliss

can the thunder trade back for harden?

 

[HUNT]

Nah, he's just always been a Westbrook hater. Just his opinion.

 

[cogenman]

Westbrook out for the remainder of the playoffs. That hurts.

 

[nbafan88]

He continually says stupid shit. He's a blankets reject that has brought his antics over here at CTG.

Really now? Blankets reject? Wtf does that even mean?

Yes I hate westbrook's game. Sue me.

Sorry you are offended by my opinions.

 

[Play2win]

Im not a big Westbrick fan myself, shoot first pg's are not exactly a championship formula. Even if he was healthy, i wouldnt have picked them to come out of the west.

 

[Play2win]

how can there be games when Westbrick jacks up between 30-40 shots and KD only has like 15 attempts???

 

[nbafan88]

how can there be games when Westbrick jacks up between 30-40 shots and KD only has like 15 attempts???

exactly

 

[B.A.R.]

Oklahoma City Thunder point guard Russell Westbrook will miss the remainder of the postseason after undergoing successful surgery to repair a torn lateral meniscus in his right knee, the team announced Saturday.
Rehab will begin immediately following the surgery, which took place at the Stedman Clinic in Vail, Colo., according to the Thunder. No timetable has yet been established for his return; a timeline will be determined during the offseason, the team said.
The Thunder announced the tear Friday, saying that Westbrook suffered the injury during the second quarter of Oklahoma City's 105-102 win over the Houston Rockets in Game 2 of their first-round series. The team had previously held out hope that Westbrook would be able to return before the end of the playoffs, as Westbrook's tear was reportedly considered to be minimal, according to Yahoo! Sports NBA columnist Adrian Wojnarowski. But the choice to repair the tear rather than remove the meniscus will require a longer recovery period that will prevent Westbrook from returning, according to Thunder general manager Sam Presti.
“Although we are of course disappointed that Russell will be unable to return to the floor with his teammates this season, the opportunity to repair the meniscus as opposed to remove it was the best possible scenario for Russell's long term health as a player and person,” Presti said in a team statement. “Russell's health and well being are obviously our number one priority through this process and today's procedure helped solidify our belief that Russell will have many productive years of basketball in his future.”
Westbrook was the Thunder's second-leading scorer this season, averaging 23.2 points per game, to go with 7.4 assists, 5.2 rebounds and 1.8 steals per contest. In his absence, Thunder coach Scott Brooks will have to rely more heavily on backup guards Reggie Jackson and Derek Fisher, and will likely hand more ball-handling and playmaking responsibility to star Kevin Durant. Westbrook's loss is a serious blow for the top-seeded Thunder, considered the favorite to represent the Western Conference in the NBA finals for the second straight season, and bolsters the conference title hopes of fellow high seeds like the San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets, Los Angeles Clippers and Memphis Grizzlies.
Patrick Beverley, the Houston point guard whose collision with Westbrook while attempting a steal before an OKC timeout likely led to the injury and at whom Westbrook is reportedly "irate," told Wojnarowski that he's sorry Westbrook suffered an injury, but that he doesn't regret trying to make a play and won't apologize for it:

"I want to go against Russell Westbrook again and battle him again," Beverley told Yahoo! Sports by phone on Friday evening. "I didn't try to hurt him, but that play was something I've tried in the past, a play that worked against the Suns earlier in the season – and it's a play that I'm going to continue to try again."
​

The Thunder and Rockets square off Saturday night in Game 3 of their Western Conference playoff series at Toyota Center in Houston. Oklahoma City holds a 2-0 lead in the best-of-seven series.

 

[Toronto_Mike]

how can there be games when Westbrick jacks up between 30-40 shots and KD only has like 15 attempts???

would it really matter when they still win games and KD still scores more points? I don't think so?
They are the two primary offense and at the end of the day the amount of shots those two combine take would be the same for any other offensive teams only difference is these others teams at least have some sort of offense elsewhere

 

[nbafan88]

would it really matter when they still win games and KD still scores more points? I don't think so?
They are the two primary offense and at the end of the day the amount of shots those two combine take would be the same for any other offensive teams only difference is these others teams at least have some sort of offense elsewhere

he said that scoring point guards don't win rings... And that is true.

 

[raems]

he said that scoring point guards don't win rings... And that is true.

Thats because nobody thought point guards should even try to score points before looking to facilitate until the 2000's. proactive not reactive, that's how you succeed anywhere in life. Citing bob Cousy as a reason why Westbrook can't win a title is lame man.

If you had 20 examples of players as prolific as Westbrook, none of whom won championships, I'd listen. But truth is you have 2 or 3 legit examples IF that many.

And this RINGZZ excuse is super played out. Lebron is in the prime of what will end up being a top 5 all time body of work right now. Westbrook and durant faced that team IN THE FINALS as 23 and 24 year olds and had 3 losses decided in the final minutes, that's a special accomplishment if you ask me. sometimes it's ok to just shut up and give credit where credit's due.

 

[twinkie13]

NBAfan:

How do you rate Westbrook and Rondo?

 

[Toronto_Mike]

he said that scoring point guards don't win rings... And that is true.

and passing point guards do?
Hmmm John Stockton?

Also might want to check his assist there bud last time I checked being top 10 in scoring, assist and steals is a pretty good number to be in when playing as a point guard...oh doesn't hurt that the team also finished with the best record in the West. All of which is true

 

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KD returned the favor?..........

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[Toronto_Mike]

bump...

apparently according to some on here, he is irrelevant to the team.....yup

 

[wizardofodd]

well add to the fact that Durant played like shit, especially in the 4th.

He wants to be "#1", not this year KD

 

[cogenman]

bump...

apparently according to some on here, he is irrelevant to the team.....yup

"a blessing in disguise" LMAO