Oregon vs Indiana Discussion Thread

I’ve already bet Indiana. Whatever the discussion will be - and I’m sure it will be informed & smart - there is no way I’d bet the other side of this game. I’m not over-thinking it. I think Cignetti is the “new Saban” for what my opinion is worth. I’ll take the Heisman winner (he won’t be getting drunk etc) and the defense plus coach.

I’m in the truck doing some work but what year did Alabama beat ND in national championship? 2012-13? I remember that I was never going to bet against Bama (I think they were dogs?) in that game. Feel same about this one. I bet Bama and kept adding to it.

Took IU for 2.5 units and may add later.
 
VirginiaCavs said:
I think the right move is to make the other team burn timeouts or have to drive with little time left. It's not like he was facing an elite offense.
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bones said:
I’ve already bet Indiana. Whatever the discussion will be - and I’m sure it will be informed & smart - there is no way I’d bet the other side of this game. I’m not over-thinking it. I think Cignetti is the “new Saban” for what my opinion is worth. I’ll take the Heisman winner (he won’t be getting drunk etc) and the defense plus coach.

I’m in the truck doing some work but what year did Alabama beat ND in national championship? 2012-13? I remember that I was never going to bet against Bama (I think they were dogs?) in that game. Feel same about this one. I bet Bama and kept adding to it.

Took IU for 2.5 units and may add later.
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Bama was a decent sized favorite that game. Can't recall exactly, but I think they were at least a TD fav.
 
I watched the entire first game. Both defensive lines were really good, but Indy's was fantastic.

Dante was never comfortable.

Oregon scored 13 on offense.

That game, bouncing back from the pick 6, sort of spearheaded the rest of Fernando's season.

This is going to be a GREAT game.
 
Sounds kinda simple, but I'm taking the team with the better coach and the better QB and one that is every bit as physical up front, as the first meeting clearly showed. That would be Indiana, this time on a neutral. No stage appears to be too big for the Hoosiers.
 
B.A.R. said:
I watched the entire first game. Both defensive lines were really good, but Indy's was fantastic.

Dante was never comfortable.

Oregon scored 13 on offense.

That game, bouncing back from the pick 6, sort of spearheaded the rest of Fernando's season.

This is going to be a GREAT game.
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Fernando reflected on that interception in some interview I saw. He said it did not discourage him, just had to get back to work or something similar. He sounded calm & convincing
 
bones said:
I’ve already bet Indiana. Whatever the discussion will be - and I’m sure it will be informed & smart - there is no way I’d bet the other side of this game. I’m not over-thinking it. I think Cignetti is the “new Saban” for what my opinion is worth. I’ll take the Heisman winner (he won’t be getting drunk etc) and the defense plus coach.

I’m in the truck doing some work but what year did Alabama beat ND in national championship? 2012-13? I remember that I was never going to bet against Bama (I think they were dogs?) in that game. Feel same about this one. I bet Bama and kept adding to it.

Took IU for 2.5 units and may add later.
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Same boat. There just no freaking way I’m betting against Iu.
 
I’ll probably be wrong cause this been the worst ncaa fb season of my life. Case in point I bet ducks the 1st meeting and I just can’t get it out my head watching Hoosiers physically whip them. Why will it be different? Normally with 2 really good teams I’d prob be looking to take the team who lost the 1st meeting but I don’t think that leads to any kind of edge against this coach and team. Certainly no motivational edge at this point and in no world do I see Hoosiers being out coached or schemed and I just trust Mendoza way more than Moore.
 
IU after 14 games this season:
- 8 turnovers
- 11 defensive penalties. 11.

Guessing there is more (similar) out there but the bottom line is that IU is so well coached and, while not completely flawless, it makes one helluva effort to be so.
 
cashflowmatters said:
I agree, they are very good and for some reason the public is all over Miami
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Well, I think the key here is the Ole Miss OL vs the Miami DL.

Start capping there as I believe that is the most important match-up in this game.

On that note, Ole Miss would do well to keep the pace up. Miami doesn't substitute all that much. We saw in the two-minute drill that Ohio State have their first success of the game last week doing as much.
 
I'll post the percentage stuff tomorrow but last I saw was 54/46 of bets on Ole Miss Spread so nothing significant

Guess Miami bettors should feel good that they haven't removed the hook, no clue what the money is but at this point it's usually a sample size of at least 80,000 tickets

I just think Miami owns the LOS on both sides and it really doesn't seem that close to me
 
KJ said:
I'll post the percentage stuff tomorrow but last I saw was 54/46 of bets on Ole Miss Spread so nothing significant

Guess Miami bettors should feel good that they haven't removed the hook, no clue what the money is but at this point it's usually a sample size of at least 80,000 tickets

I just think Miami owns the LOS on both sides and it really doesn't seem that close to me
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I just now realized we went on a tangent in this thread.
 
B.A.R. said:
Well, I think the key here is the Ole Miss OL vs the Miami DL.

Start capping there as I believe that is the most important match-up in this game.

On that note, Ole Miss would do well to keep the pace up. Miami doesn't substitute all that much. We saw in the two-minute drill that Ohio State have their first success of the game last week doing as much.
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Exactly. Don't know why OSU didn't do more of the hurry up.
 
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This suggests strength for betting on the Indiana team total to go under which I approve but can not wager on. But that is my mindset going in as I will be wagering live. Anything pregame will simply be to have a post in the ground to work with.
 
I tend to like Lanning's aggressiveness but he was 4 of 8 on 4th down against Tech with drives stalling at the Tech:
- 25
- 32
- 2
-46

That type of gambling works against a team that had virtually no chance on offense.

Different landscape vs. Indiana.
 
Frank Costanza said:
I tend to like Lanning's aggressiveness but he was 4 of 8 on 4th down against Tech with drives stalling at the Tech:
- 25
- 32
- 2
-46

That type of gambling works against a team that had virtually no chance on offense.

Different landscape vs. Indiana.
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Tech defense >> Indy and I think Indy is a top 10 defense

So are Oregon and Miami
 
Give me the much better coach and the far better QB and if I lose so be it so its Indiana for me.
 
Brewers888 said:
Give me the much better coach and the far better QB and if I lose so be it so its Indiana for me.
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Yes, we know you think Moore sucks. I don't. And I will be betting on him in the rematch.

The OCD is borderline nauseating at this point. We ALL KNOW where you stand on everything. Just hope it doesn't cloud my judgment on this game.
 
KJ said:
Yes, we know you think Moore sucks. I don't. And I will be betting on him in the rematch.

The OCD is borderline nauseating at this point. We ALL KNOW where you stand on everything. Just hope it doesn't cloud my judgment on this game.
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You shouldn't let my opinions sway you at all.
 
Beating an overrated Texas Tech team with brutal QB play is meaningless and I just can't get over letting James Madison get that late cover which is usually something Oregon doesn't do.
 
Brewers888 said:
You shouldn't let my opinions sway you at all.
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They don't but I do value them to a degree. I don't think there's much difference between Moore and Mendoza and yes I watched Moore at UCLA and Mendoza at Cal. Quite a bit. Both elite pocket QBs with athleticism. Both prone to mistakes. Both NEED protection. Neither will have it at the next level nor likely in this game.
 
Brewers888 said:
Beating an overrated Texas Tech team with brutal QB play is meaningless and I just can't get over letting James Madison get that late cover which is usually something Oregon doesn't do.
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Only reason the QB play was brutal was because of the defense. If you didn't take that from the game it's not going to be much of a discussion. Oregon and Indiana are both insanely good up front. Not sure if you watched the first game, I did. And I don't think this will be all that much different and exactly why I want the points and do not want to give them. It likely comes down to a play or two on defense and giving points in that scenario is not in my recipe book.
 
B.A.R. said:
Well, I think the key here is the Ole Miss OL vs the Miami DL.

Start capping there as I believe that is the most important match-up in this game.

On that note, Ole Miss would do well to keep the pace up. Miami doesn't substitute all that much. We saw in the two-minute drill that Ohio State have their first success of the game last week doing as much.
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I assume Mia pass rush will win plenty but does that mean they actually get Chambliss? Early on in the Aggie gm Reed was beating them with his legs, they obviously corrected that as the game went on but chambliss clearly better than reed. I’d think chasing him around wear them out along w the pace. Aggies best success other than Reed scrambling early was late in the 2 min as well.
 
CPA-hole said:
Exactly. Don't know why OSU didn't do more of the hurry up.
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Here. I couldn't stop howling about that in the ohio / Miami game. Allowed Sayin to get into rhythm and neutralized the pass rush. Win, win. Ohio lost the game not recognizing this earlier. Not sure if that was Day, and not Hartline, overseeing things. Nonetheless, it was difference maker.
 
1st game I was impressed how IU and Mendoza responded after the pick 6 to tie it at 20. On the road, with all the momentum, I figured IU was done. But nope 12 plays, 75 yards and a TD.
 
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Frank Costanza said:
Respectfully disagree but that's what this beautiful site is for.
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I actually think Texas Tech was the closest thing I've seen to a professional defense in CFB since the year LSU failed at having to beat Bama's professional defense twice to have to win a championship. Actually I think Tech's was better in the grand scheme, but they are at least comparable. Hell they paid for it at least.
 
Brewers888 said:
Beating an overrated Texas Tech team with brutal QB play is meaningless and I just can't get over letting James Madison get that late cover which is usually something Oregon doesn't do.
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I mean Texas tech qb was total dog shit but that d one of if not the best in the country. It pretty crazy to hold it against a team that up 34-6 at half to go on cruise control when they have much bigger games ahead.

Not really arguing for ducks in this gm cause I already saw this at Oregon and iu owned the Los, plus I already decided coming into this shit there was no chance I was going against iu. Just think you being a tad unfair to ducks, they deserve some the credit for totally destroying tech offense, Morten was god awful but at least some of that should be credited to the ducks, totally disagree tech was overrated. Far as Moore goes I’m not sure bout him at next level, I think if he landed someplace with a good coach he could be .solid, there no question he talented and he been pretty good for most part this year (not so much vs iu the 1st time when he was under siege), considering tech nfl pass rush I thought he played well last week outside missing a read or 2.
 
Brewers888 said:
Beating an overrated Texas Tech team with brutal QB play is meaningless and I just can't get over letting James Madison get that late cover which is usually something Oregon doesn't do.
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You need to get that JMU game outta your head.

They took care of business in the first half and coasted. This happens in football.

Texas Tech had a helluva defense and we saw that vs Oregon. They simply couldn't move the ball on a pretty solid Ducks D.

Indiana wasn't exactly going up and down the field in Eugene. They did what they do though -- make winning plays.

With that being said, Mendoza has grown a lot since then.
 
B.A.R. said:
You need to get that JMU game outta your head.

They took care of business in the first half and coasted. This happens in football.

Texas Tech had a helluva defense and we saw that vs Oregon. They simply couldn't move the ball on a pretty solid Ducks D.

Indiana wasn't exactly going up and down the field in Eugene. They did what they do though -- make winning plays.

With that being said, Mendoza has grown a lot since then.
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Anyone using the JMU game for covering purposes has to look in the mirror and ask questions
 
B.A.R. said:
You need to get that JMU game outta your head.

They took care of business in the first half and coasted. This happens in football.

Texas Tech had a helluva defense and we saw that vs Oregon. They simply couldn't move the ball on a pretty solid Ducks D.

Indiana wasn't exactly going up and down the field in Eugene. They did what they do though -- make winning plays.

With that being said, Mendoza has grown a lot since then.
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Texas Tech had a good defense but who exactly did they go up against. I’ll take Cignetti and Mendoza to do what they did in Eugene but I’ve been wrong before.
 
Brewers888 said:
Texas Tech had a good defense but who exactly did they go up against. I’ll take Cignetti and Mendoza to do what they did in Eugene but I’ve been wrong before.
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Mendoza wasn’t exactly great in that gm. Certainly Made plays when needed but for most part Hoosiers d was the story I thought. They totally whipped ducks up front, I hardly recall Moore dropping back in 1st half where the d wasn’t in his face instantly, He was def shook.
 
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