Opening Day Lines and Discussion Thread
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KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Nope. 80-90 pitches one day, 50 or so in a couple days.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Thinking you can work a pen/game like in playoffs for a entire season isn’t realistic. Adding starters to the mix isn’t gonna make enough quality pitchers. We already see some god awful relievers come in games with starters going 5-6 innings. Not sure where these extra pitchers are coming from? Maybe this a very long term idea but it not happening anytime soon. I don’t think bullpen sessions are putting high stress pitches/innings on a guys arm either, to expect them to all start throwing 3 innings every couple days isn’t realistic. There no chance this happening in the short term outside the once a week pen game some teams use.
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2daBank
Voice of Reason
Tigers changing OF dimensions at Comerica
DETROIT -- The walls are coming down and closing in at Comerica Park. On Wednesday, the Tigers announced arguably their most speculated move of the offseason, the changing of their home park’s outfield dimensions: • The center-field wall, the symbol of Comerica Park’s deep outfield, will be...
What happened to the good young pitches ya’ll had? I seriously think the lineup has more potential than the starting 5 rotation I see. Ain’t no good young pitchers in that mix! Injuries? I think Rodriguez could have a bounce back season but don’t see none the promising kids..
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
It started last season, was incredible the early hooks
Whole point is we need to identify what will change and it starts at pitch count.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
100 Is still pretty much the standard, I saw it differ only w a few teams and certain young players who were all a sudden projected to pitch way more innings than they had planned or ever did before. Outside of that I havnt seen any evidence they gonna have starters throwing less pitches. Maybe the 1st/2nd starts depending how stretch they got in spring. By the end the month anyone pitching well isn’t getting yanked before or around 100. Those kids it was happening to last year are on schedule to throw 200ish innings this year, give or take.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
I doubt we see 100 pitches 20 times this season an I believe what I hear
Not like any of us can guarantee anything tho
peelpub94
More Guards Than Shawshank
Only 8 pitchers pitched over 200 innings last year. This has been trending downward for awhile, we know this, along with complete games (only 35 last year). Hard to find how many times a pitcher leaguewide went more than 6 innings, but this too is trending downward.
I thought earlier bc of colder weather
This sucks bc you don’t know which relievers will throw and which batters they‘ll face
peelpub94
More Guards Than Shawshank
Can really just rely on availability, rest, current form.
And on managers not being complete fucking morons…yikes
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Yeah, I think f5 still safe if you’re capping starting pitchers
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Nobody arguing pens have become more involved but it redic to think teams are now planning on their starters not going 5+ innings majority of the time. I’m incredibly confident I can continue playing 1st 5s and not have to worry bout any pitcher other than the starter. Except when I play a team total over of course, those starters getting ran early!! Lol
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I don’t think I’ve ever bet a 7 inning line but tigers ov 1.5 runs for 7 innings -120 is really interesting to me, over a half run for 5 innings be great except it has lot of juice. What appealing about a 7 inning line is assured they will get another pitcher, maybe 2 after McClanahan and if he struggles on way out we be part of that also.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
On that same note I love me some giants over a half run 1st 3 innings +110 vs Cole. I don’t think Cole ever been known as a fast starter, his 1st inning era for his career is over 4 and he will def give up a bomb here and there, almost a hr per start at yankee stadium last year. Sf lineup is fairly deep w lefties that could yank one over that short porch and we get everyone seeing him once and plus money just to scratch one across. I prefer this to needing 2 thru 5 innings, if Cole cruises thru the 1st 3imnings what the chances he gives up 2+ in 4th and 5th? Probably not great. So let’s just get one early and get out of dodge with a W!
peelpub94
More Guards Than Shawshank
Exactly my thoughts as I was looking over Giants line up today.
Marsski
MAC Marvel
ON Hunter Greene over 7.5 Ks vs Pirates @ +102.
He had 9 and 8 in his two starts vs Pirates last year. He also no hit Pit thru 7 last year in one of those games. Obviously he is erratic but he can smoke the AAAA Pirates. Also, took Keller over 3.5., Greene over 7.5 and Reds win in a single game parlay that Draft Kings bonus juiced to +338. Good weather in the Queen City today.
He had 9 and 8 in his two starts vs Pirates last year. He also no hit Pit thru 7 last year in one of those games. Obviously he is erratic but he can smoke the AAAA Pirates. Also, took Keller over 3.5., Greene over 7.5 and Reds win in a single game parlay that Draft Kings bonus juiced to +338. Good weather in the Queen City today.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I’m trying not to mess w many k props yet but I def thought bout greene, if I was gonna play any he def be on the list.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I don’t like hitter props but my guy Arozarena a junkie for the big stage, got himself going in the WBC so figure it might carry over to opening day. Reason I’m kinda cooled on tigers ml while I think Rodriguez has a solid season he hasn’t faired real well vs rays or in tampa, Arozarena has hit him and hits lefties in general. Over 1.5 bases +130 I think a decent bet, beware hitter props not usually my thing and it could be coming out to a empty stadium in tampa kills all his mojo!
Kinda digging the Royals. Greinke owned the Twins at home last year; only Gordon hits him well in at least 7 AB. Pablo Lopez first start in a new uniform
Also seeing ground ball pitcher Webb having value in Yankee Stadium today
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
That was kinda the point of why wins is a stupid stat. You can certainly get losses w/o going 5 but why not a win. Imagine playing in Tampa and having that stat in your contract!
reNew Orleans
Clubbin' with Rasual Butler
Call me a sucker but I’ll be on the braves in some capacity! Two below seem most reasonable
FF TT o2.5 -110
RL -130
FF TT o2.5 -110
RL -130
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Braves batted .391 against him last year.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Lol KJ has lost his mind thinking we’re going to see 120 pen games from each team. I bet a handful of pitchers throw double digit 100 pitch games.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Ha was more about making the point about needing 5 innings for a win, got a bit excessive with the pitch count.
That said I bet we'll see a bunch of 5/6 pitchers per team per game, it's simply trending that way.
pressitup
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One under in the bag, gonna see if we can ride a streak
