NFC Second Round Discussion Thread

VirginiaCavs said:
Wow this could be huge — so just to be crystal clear, what is the temperature in LA usually? Maybe reminds me of Miami @ KC
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I was impressed last year with the Rams in the blizzard at Eagles.

Devonte, Puca, Stafford, Verse are all from/have been in cold weather climates before. Sometimes you need to look at the hometown team just as much. Caleb have any experience playing in the cold like this?
 
Rodgers to me in the playoffs always froze up vs the 9ers. At home on 2 occasions he had bad offensive outings. The Cali boy never got used to that level of cold. It’s really only “cold” come playoff weeks anywhere in the country for the most part.
 
KJ said:
20mph gusts at that temperature is brutal though, not sure how many of those games had tough wind as well. Even 10mph gusts are cringeworthy.
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wasn’t as cold but there was more wind in Chicago last week than being forecasted for this one. Of course it not a great idea to assume how much wind they gonna see in Chicago days ahead of time. That why they wait longer to post mlb totals at Wrigley than anyplace else, they not trusting even next day forecast for Chicago wind!
 
Inspekdah said:
I’d call BS but seems weird to miss your last practice coming off of a bye and doing rehab work.
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Oblique's like a lower back, not much rehab you can do and it can get fucked up just rolling out of bed the wrong way. Couple good pain pills and a shot should do him ok before the game.
 
It’s called the mystery injury.
It’s the car wreck game and the NBA has perfected it. Undiagnosable.
In this case, I believe he wants to play, obviously.
 
Inspekdah said:
I was impressed last year with the Rams in the blizzard at Eagles.

Devonte, Puca, Stafford, Verse are all from/have been in cold weather climates before. Sometimes you need to look at the hometown team just as much. Caleb have any experience playing in the cold like this?
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Caleb will have a tougher time than Stafford in my opinion. Rams have a good short game with their TE’s and Puka. Bears give up explosive plays so could Tutu with his speed emerge much like he did with the Colts? He’s gone an entire season except 2 games without being involved. Bears have a backup tackle playing vs a good pass rush. If Kyren and company don’t turn the ball over, I think Rams advance.
 
wiseplayer said:
Caleb will have a tougher time than Stafford in my opinion. Rams have a good short game with their TE’s and Puka. Bears give up explosive plays so could Tutu with his speed emerge much like he did with the Colts? He’s gone an entire season except 2 games without being involved. Bears have a backup tackle playing vs a good pass rush. If Kyren and company don’t turn the ball over, I think Rams advance.
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Yeah, Stafford live in Detroit for 10 years. Caleb hasn't played in a freezing game like this either.

Ben Johnson's attack has to be to do what he did vs. the Eagles. And the Rams have certainly looked weaker vs. the run these last few weeks.
 
Inspekdah said:
Yeah, Stafford live in Detroit for 10 years. Caleb hasn't played in a freezing game like this either.

Ben Johnson's attack has to be to do what he did vs. the Eagles. And the Rams have certainly looked weaker vs. the run these last few weeks.
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Rams did something last week that I haven’t seen all year defensively. They played their backup players on defense 50% of the time. I was screaming at the TV when the starters were on the sidelines in key situations. Not sure if McVay was preserving his players thinking they would win easily or if his players are beat up? Very strange substituting even on the offensive side with starting skill players on the sidelines an awful lot.
 
wiseplayer said:
Rams did something last week that I haven’t seen all year defensively. They played their backup players on defense 50% of the time. I was screaming at the TV when the starters were on the sidelines in key situations. Not sure if McVay was preserving his players thinking they would win easily or if his players are beat up? Very strange substituting even on the offensive side with starting skill players on the sidelines an awful lot.
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Was wondering that too ...Heart wants the Bears but I could see the Rams pummeling them. Just heard the Rams very good starting left tackle is back this week as well .
 
Coldest gamea in NFL postseason history.


Minus 13 degrees (wind chill: minus 48)​

Dec. 31, 1967​

Known as the "Ice Bowl," the 1967 NFL championship reigns supreme as the coldest postseason game. The Green Bay Packers defeated the Dallas Cowboys 21-17 to win their 11th NFL championship, three years before the AFL/NFL merger. Down 17-14, Bart Starr led the Packers down the field for the winning touchdown with 16 seconds remaining. At the time of the score, temperatures had dwindled to minus 18.


Minus 9 degrees (wind chill: minus 59)​

Jan. 10, 1982​

The then-San Diego Chargers and Cincinnati Bengals squared off in arguably the coldest game, based on wind chill factor, in NFL history: "The Freezer Bowl." It was a drastic change for the Chargers, who were coming off a week where they defeated the Dolphins in 80-degree weather. With a spot in Super Bowl XVI on the line, the Bengals dominated en route to a 27-7 victory. The Chargers struggled in the cold with four fumbles and were shut out in the second half.


Minus 6 degrees (wind chill: minus 25)​

Jan. 10, 2016​

In the first Minnesota Vikings home postseason game outdoors since the 1976 NFC Championship Game, the temperature lived up to the hype. Neither team found comfort in the cold with 19 combined points and 409 combined yards. The Seattle Seahawks wound up on top 10-9 in the NFC wild-card game after Blair Walsh missed a 27-yard field goal to win.


Minus 4 degrees (wind chill: minus 27)​

Jan. 24, 2024​

Missouri isn't exactly known for its cold weather, but this matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and Miami Dolphins would have given any NFC North frozen tundra game a run for its money. Patrick Mahomes' helmet shattered after a hit, and Kansas City coach Andy Reid's iconic mustache froze. Still, the Chiefs -- with Taylor Swift watching from a presumably warm enclosed suite -- triumphed, beating the Dolphins 26-7.


Minus 1 degree (wind chill: minus 23)​

Jan. 20, 2008​

January football in Green Bay promises cold weather, and it wasn't any different in 2008. The New York Giants and Packers faced off in an NFC Championship Game that would have been the coldest ever in any other stadium except Lambeau Field. Eli Manning led the Giants to a 23-20 win en route to a Super Bowl title. During the game in Lambeau, New York players grew worried about head coach Tom Coughlin, whose cheeks didn't take the weather well.

"His cheeks were so red I thought he was going to get frostbite forever," then-Giants offensive tackle David Diehl told Sports Illustrated in 2017.

Zero degrees (wind chill: minus 32)​

Jan. 15, 1994​

The Buffalo Bills call one of the coldest regions of the country home but have never hosted a playoff game below zero degrees. The AFC divisional game in 1994 remains the coldest in Bills history. Buffalo came out on top 29-23 in a game where both teams had at least 300 total yards. The Bills would play in -- and lose -- their fourth straight Super Bowl two weeks later.
 
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Wind is the factor I'm honing in on, not temperature

If it's even slightly breezy everything turns into mush imo
 
Frank Costanza said:
Coldest gamea in NFL postseason history.


Minus 13 degrees (wind chill: minus 48)​

Dec. 31, 1967​

Known as the "Ice Bowl," the 1967 NFL championship reigns supreme as the coldest postseason game. The Green Bay Packers defeated the Dallas Cowboys 21-17 to win their 11th NFL championship, three years before the AFL/NFL merger. Down 17-14, Bart Starr led the Packers down the field for the winning touchdown with 16 seconds remaining. At the time of the score, temperatures had dwindled to minus 18.


Minus 9 degrees (wind chill: minus 59)​

Jan. 10, 1982​

The then-San Diego Chargers and Cincinnati Bengals squared off in arguably the coldest game, based on wind chill factor, in NFL history: "The Freezer Bowl." It was a drastic change for the Chargers, who were coming off a week where they defeated the Dolphins in 80-degree weather. With a spot in Super Bowl XVI on the line, the Bengals dominated en route to a 27-7 victory. The Chargers struggled in the cold with four fumbles and were shut out in the second half.


Minus 6 degrees (wind chill: minus 25)​

Jan. 10, 2016​

In the first Minnesota Vikings home postseason game outdoors since the 1976 NFC Championship Game, the temperature lived up to the hype. Neither team found comfort in the cold with 19 combined points and 409 combined yards. The Seattle Seahawks wound up on top 10-9 in the NFC wild-card game after Blair Walsh missed a 27-yard field goal to win.


Minus 4 degrees (wind chill: minus 27)​

Jan. 24, 2024​

Missouri isn't exactly known for its cold weather, but this matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and Miami Dolphins would have given any NFC North frozen tundra game a run for its money. Patrick Mahomes' helmet shattered after a hit, and Kansas City coach Andy Reid's iconic mustache froze. Still, the Chiefs -- with Taylor Swift watching from a presumably warm enclosed suite -- triumphed, beating the Dolphins 26-7.


Minus 1 degree (wind chill: minus 23)​

Jan. 20, 2008​

January football in Green Bay promises cold weather, and it wasn't any different in 2008. The New York Giants and Packers faced off in an NFC Championship Game that would have been the coldest ever in any other stadium except Lambeau Field. Eli Manning led the Giants to a 23-20 win en route to a Super Bowl title. During the game in Lambeau, New York players grew worried about head coach Tom Coughlin, whose cheeks didn't take the weather well.

"His cheeks were so red I thought he was going to get frostbite forever," then-Giants offensive tackle David Diehl told Sports Illustrated in 2017.

Zero degrees (wind chill: minus 32)​

Jan. 15, 1994​

The Buffalo Bills call one of the coldest regions of the country home but have never hosted a playoff game below zero degrees. The AFC divisional game in 1994 remains the coldest in Bills history. Buffalo came out on top 29-23 in a game where both teams had at least 300 total yards. The Bills would play in -- and lose -- their fourth straight Super Bowl two weeks later.
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Was at the BILLS game in 94 , COLD as fuck felt like -40 wind-chill ..Had 9 layers on the upper body and it didn't matter. Counted 3 people with out their shirts on to start the game , they lasted about 4-5 minutes before they got fully dressed .

Worst game I was ever at was 34 degrees , super windy ( 40-50mph ) and raining sideways ...Being soaked in the cold with wind is far far worse than snow and wind
 
DOUBLEUP4LIFE said:
Was wondering that too ...Heart wants the Bears but I could see the Rams pummeling them. Just heard the Rams very good starting left tackle is back this week as well .
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It’s their starting guard, Dotson who’s their best olineman. Had an ankle sprain and took 3 weeks off. The run game will be in full effect with him back.
 
FWIW - GROK.
Some questions I thought I would be interested in having answered. Not sure they are of value.
I did think the games would generally been closer in regard to margin of victory

scores between seahawks and forty-niners in 2022 nfl season?

Here are the scores from all games between the Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco 49ers during the 2022 NFL season (including regular season and playoffs), listed in chronological order:
  1. September 18, 2022 (Regular season, Week 2, at San Francisco): 49ers 27, Seahawks 7
  2. December 15, 2022 (Regular season, Week 15, at Seattle): 49ers 21, Seahawks 13
  3. January 14, 2023 (NFC Wild Card Playoff, at San Francisco): 49ers 41, Seahawks 23
The 49ers swept the Seahawks 3–0 that season, outscoring them 89–43 across the three matchups.


what has the score been in the last 8 San Francisco forty-niner vs Seattle seahawks games?

Here are the scores from the last 8 completed games between the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks (as of January 17, 2026, listed in reverse chronological order—most recent first). This includes regular-season and playoff matchups where applicable.
  1. January 3, 2026 (Regular season, at San Francisco): Seahawks 13, 49ers 3
  2. September 7, 2025 (Regular season, at Seattle): 49ers 17, Seahawks 13
  3. November 17, 2024 (Regular season, at San Francisco): Seahawks 20, 49ers 17
  4. October 10, 2024 (Regular season, at Seattle): 49ers 36, Seahawks 24
  5. December 10, 2023 (Regular season, at San Francisco): 49ers 28, Seahawks 16
  6. November 23, 2023 (Regular season, at Seattle): 49ers 31, Seahawks 13
  7. January 14, 2023 (NFC Wild Card playoff, at San Francisco): 49ers 41, Seahawks 23
  8. December 15, 2022 (Regular season, at Seattle): 49ers 21, Seahawks 13
Over these 8 games, the 49ers won 6 and the Seahawks won 2. Note that the teams are scheduled to meet again tomorrow (January 18, 2026) in the NFC Divisional Round playoff.


what has the average margin of victory been in seahawk vs forty-niners games in nfl for last 20 years?

The average margin of victory in Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers games over the last 20 years (2006–2025 seasons, including regular season and playoffs) is approximately 11.8 points.This is calculated from 42 games played in that span (40 regular-season matchups plus 2 playoff games: the 2013 NFC Championship and 2022 Wild Card).
  • Total point differential across all games: 496 points
  • Average: 496 ÷ 42 ≈ 11.81 points (often rounded to 11.8)
The rivalry has featured a mix of close contests (many decided by 3–7 points) and blowouts (e.g., 29, 27, 26 points), but the average aligns closely with broader NFL divisional game trends (~11 points in modern eras).

Data sourced from comprehensive head-to-head records on sites like The Football Database and cross-verified with Pro-Football-Reference and Wikipedia. Note: This excludes the upcoming January 18, 2026 playoff game, which has not been played.


how many of their last 42 games between the seahawks and forty-niners were decided by 7 points or less?

17 of the last 42 games between the Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco 49ers were decided by 7 points or less.This covers all completed regular-season and playoff matchups from January 3, 2026 (Seahawks 13–3 49ers) back through the 2006 season (the 42 most recent games as of January 17, 2026, spanning roughly the last 20 years).

The close games (margin ≤7) in this span were:
  • September 7, 2025: 4 points
  • November 17, 2024: 3 points
  • December 5, 2021: 7 points
  • October 3, 2021: 7 points
  • January 3, 2021: 3 points
  • December 29, 2019: 5 points
  • November 11, 2019: 3 points (OT)
  • December 16, 2018: 3 points (OT)
  • September 17, 2017: 3 points
  • January 1, 2017: 2 points
  • January 19, 2014 (playoff): 6 points
  • December 8, 2013: 2 points
  • October 18, 2012: 7 points
  • December 24, 2011: 2 points
  • December 6, 2009: 3 points
  • September 14, 2008: 3 points (OT)
  • November 19, 2006: 6 points
  • These 42 games align with the post-2002 NFC West realignment era (typically 2 regular-season games per year plus 2 playoffs in this window).
  • The upcoming January 18, 2026 playoff game is not included. Data cross-verified from head-to-head records on Pro-Football-Reference and The Football Database.
 
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