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[B.A.R.]

played each for 100..then Im said fuck it..and doubled each..lol

so...200 is a half unit it looks like for mew this year...hopefully 5-2 at worst

Back with discussion these later

FLA over 9.5 +159
ISU Over 7.5 +142
NEB Over 8.5 +149
OSU Under 10 +122
PITT over 8 +124
CUSE over 4 +154
WVU over 10 -139

The Ohio State one...its gonna be a push or win IMO...back in a bit

 

[HUNT]

Love them...those look so sexy!!

on all except OSU and WVU and ISU

 

[Vasilios]

Semcon

 

[Inspekdah]

Look solid to me B.A.R. Where'd you put them in at? FLA scares me I hate Leak and am still bitter about how they fell into that win last year vs. Big 10's Iowa in the Outback bowl.

 

[HUNT]

everyone on this board I have read is scared of Leak and Florida's schedule....I think they are going to have a great year...big playmakers on both sides of the ball and ridiculous speed.

 

[RJ Esq]

I really like Va Tech over 9 wins and Texas over 9.5.

 

[SoonerBS]

The only ones I would disagree with you on is Florida and WVU. I, too, am one that thinks Florida's schedule is too tough. I also don't think West Virginia will be as lucky in close games and turnover ratio as they were last season.

Nebraska is a "hit or miss" team this year. If Callahan doesn't put it all together this season like everyone thinks he will, their schedule would dictate several losses. BUT, if they live up to hype, they should be able to cash this for you. We'll see.

 

[SHSUHorn]

ISU looks good and I almost jumped on that one.

 

[HUNT]

It's obvious you are reading way too much phil steele playwithme.

He doesn't like WVU either because of the turnover thing as well...I guess time will tell.

 

[SoonerBS]

It's obvious you are reading way too much phil steele playwithme.

He doesn't like WVU either because of the turnover thing as well...I guess time will tell.

I have to read Phil Steele's take on the Mountaineers to bring me back down to earth. Everything else I read about WVU has them ranked in the Top 5 of the nation! I just personally don't think that's accurate. BUT, like you said, we'll see.

 

[HUNT]

I understand playwithme...it is all we have until the damn lines come out at a reputable sportsbook!!

 

[SoonerBS]

Hunt, do you live in that area? I'd really like to here someone's perspective on the WVU/Marshall game from that area. I've heard that Marshall has been trying to schedule this game for a long time, but that the WVU players could care less about it.

If you have any insight on this game, I'd sure appreciate it.

 

[B.A.R.]

Play

He lives in Ann Arbor...and I am wondering about that angle as well. I remember some guys from that area at Covers but cannot think of who they were.

Sory..I'll discuss these more in a bit..last night the Austin debacle took up most of my time.

 

[HUNT]

play...I do not live in that area..but I know WVU will run up the score at all cost because of their weak schedule against Marshall...Marshall has a bad defense no matter who is returning..this game will be a laugher...but hey it is only one man's opinion.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Hunt, do you live in that area? I'd really like to here someone's perspective on the WVU/Marshall game from that area. I've heard that Marshall has been trying to schedule this game for a long time, but that the WVU players could care less about it.

If you have any insight on this game, I'd sure appreciate it.

Play...I live about 1 1/2 hrs from Huntington and 2 3/4 from Morgantown, so I have a bit of a pulse about the rivalry...this is a much bigger deal for Marshall than it is for WVU..esp now that they are "big time"...we saw something similar in college hoops a couple months ago...Marshall moved from the MAC to Conf USA and weren't good at all...WVU was off Elite 8 trip and had started 14-3 and won 12 in a row last year and were ranked top 15..they finally got Marshall half way through season...Marshall BEAT WVU on neutral floor in Charleston and every news channel led w/ it in the three majors in WV...Huntington, Charleston, and Morgantown..and this was the same day as a cop getting murdered in Huntington...it was a BIG deal...esp to Marshall...I'll throw in the bball recap because I remember how the WVU players reacted to the rivalry..not sure it matters in this football game, but it was obvious the game meant much less to WVU than it did Marshall..there's even a quote from Gansey saying as much..



Marshall ends Mountaineers' 12-game winning streak

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) -- West Virginia's ownership of the nation's longest winning streak was short-lived.


Mark Patton had 16 points and 10 rebounds as Marshall posted a 58-52 victory over West Virginia (No. 13 ESPN/USA Today, No. 9 AP) on Wednesday night, ending the Mountaineers' winning streak at 12 games.

Center Kevin Pittsnogle had guaranteed a win for West Virginia (14-4), but the Mountaineers were held to a season low for points and fell to their cross-state rival for the second straight year, the first time that's happened since 1981-82.


"After a guarantee like that, it's a good thing we showed up tonight," Patton said. "This is how it is every year in Charleston. It is always back and forth like that."


Pittsnogle didn't apologize for his prediction.


"I'm still glad I said it," he said. "There's nothing wrong with what I said. I think it was just more like confidence."


Marshall (8-9) usually finds more motivation for this game because the Thundering Herd are considered second fiddle in a state with only two Division I teams. The meeting also occurs in the middle of West Virginia's rough Big East schedule.


"They came out with more intensity," West Virginia's Mike Gansey said. "This is kind of like their Super Bowl. It's just another game for us."


It was the Thundering Herd's first win over an Associated Press Top 10 opponent since beating St. John's in 1971.


It marked the fourth straight meeting between the schools to be decided by six points or less. West Virginia has failed to score more than 55 points in the last three meetings.


Marshall coach Ron Jirsa said his team "didn't do anything special. They just played smart and kept themselves focused."


Pittsnogle led West Virginia with 20 points but got little support. Gansey was held to 10 points -- 10 below his average.


West Virginia, outrebounded badly and unable to find its bread-and-butter 3-point shot, never led in the second half and went seven minutes without a field goal late in the game.


Marshall's Markel Humphrey hit a 3-pointer and Patton outwrestled three West Virginia players for a rebound and hit the putback for the Thundering Herd's largest lead, 47-40, with 4:26 left.


West Virginia scored the next seven points and tied the score on Patrick Beilein's layup with 2:08 remaining.


But Patton put Marshall ahead to stay with a short jumper with 1:32 left. Tre Whitted, who went 0-for-8 from the field in Marshall's last game and then hit a 3-pointer for a 52-47 lead.


Pittsnogle answered with a 3-pointer with 34 seconds left, but Marshall sealed the win by making six straight free throws in the final 25 seconds.

Joe Miles added 13 points for Marshall and Whitted finished with 11.

West Virginia ranks second nationally with 10 3-pointers per game but shot poorly from the outside for the fourth straight year against Marshall at the Charleston Civic Center. West Virginia was 5-of-30 on 3-pointers and shot 35 percent overall.

 

[B.A.R.]

Jump...excellent post there..

This is conflicting for me right now. I loved WVU half/game till a few days ago. Someone brought this up nd it has me thinking. Also, mybe WVU is a bit full of themselves starting out? Have to read more of the local stuuf before putting in a play.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

play...I do not live in that area..but I know WVU will run up the score at all cost because of their weak schedule against Marshall...Marshall has a bad defense no matter who is returning..this game will be a laugher...but hey it is only one man's opinion.

it's obvious that a motivated WVU team can hang some points on a middle of the pack Conf USA team for sure...I will say that Marshall's D under Mark Snyder in his second year will be much improved..he was tOSU's D coordinator two years ago and is very much a scheme guy..these kids second year in the system will make a difference for sure...esp when it comes to league games..same stuff...edge control..zone drops..lots of shifts..gap control...same stuff tOSU pushes...

Remember also that Snyder left tOSU after just one year as D Coordinator (his second dream job) after D'Antonio left for UC to accept the Marshall job...why?? Because it's his alma mater, and first dream job..

I gotta think being that he's from Marshall, he knows what this game means to the second fiddle bunch...

Gotta think this line gets to at least 21 and the hook, don't u guys think??

 

[SoonerBS]

Yeah, I think so, too, Jump. Thanks for the insight!

It may turn out to be nothing more than a "no play" for me, but something about the game is intriguing. My heart is telling me to stay with the favorites because they usually cash earlier in the season, but I believe some of these "over-hyped" teams are going to lay some eggs opening week like last year (Oklahoma, Tennessee and Miami to name a few.) I'm thinking one of them could be WVU. The only draw back is that WVU plays an even lesser "nobody" the next week, so they can fully concentrate on this opening game.

Still, if we end up catching over 21 points on Marshall, we HAVE to take a serious look at it!

 

[SoonerKL]

ISU is a scary prop

Toledo- W (Should be a W, but what does Toledo have this year? & can they replace the QB and LB's?)

UNLV- W (Should have no problem with the Rebels)

@ Iowa- L (The Hawkeyes have revenge on the mind)

@ Texas- L (Given)

N. Iowa- W (Given)

Nebraska- L (Nebby should be strong, but a Cyclone victory here would not be surprising)

@ Oklahoma- L (Given)

Texas Tech- Toss-up (Don't think ISU can stop the Raiders but you could say the same for ISU's off. against the Tech D)

@ Kansas St.- W (Should be a win but this is another revenge game and Prince appears to be a coach that has what it takes to make winners out of most)

Kansas- another toss-up (would have to lean towards a ISU victory with QB Meyer showing the way against a above avg. Jayhawk D)

@ Colorado- L (Another revenge game and the Buffs somehow know the formula to winning the North)

Missouri- W (Should be a win with Mizzou being down after losing their bowl hopes the week before in a thrashing from Nebby)

so I see them at 7-5 at best but GL to ya BAR.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Yeah, I think so, too, Jump. Thanks for the insight!

It may turn out to be nothing more than a "no play" for me, but something about the game is intriguing. My heart is telling me to stay with the favorites because they usually cash earlier in the season, but I believe some of these "over-hyped" teams are going to lay some eggs opening week like last year (Oklahoma, Tennessee and Miami to name a few.) I'm thinking one of them could be WVU. The only draw back is that WVU plays an even lesser "nobody" the next week, so they can fully concentrate on this opening game.

Still, if we end up catching over 21 points on Marshall, we HAVE to take a serious look at it!

it's a real catch 22 IMO if u lean Marshall...on one hand u'd prefer this game to be a couple weeks in when it could actually be a "look ahead spot"..a sandwich between conf road games or something..lol...but on the other hand a week one contest has the possibility of just not being sharp, which always favors the big underdog..

 

[SoonerBS]

SoonerKL, Tech D was 30th in the nation last season whenever they were a "Junior" heavy team. This season they will be a Senior heavy team. Tech takes Iowa State down easily. IMO

 

[SoonerBS]

it's a real catch 22 IMO if u lean Marshall...on one hand u'd prefer this game to be a couple weeks in when it could actually be a "look ahead spot"..a sandwich between conf road games or something..lol...but on the other hand a week one contest has the possibility of just not being sharp, which always favors the big underdog..

I agree IF that underdog is a "middle of the road or better" team. If it's a Sun Belt team, go ahead and bet against them!

 

[SoonerBS]

Big Al, get your ass in here! You know you haven't got shit else to do tonight!

 

[B.A.R.]

SoonerKL

You make great points indeed. I have a feeling about this team. I will admit outta the plays this is one of the 2 least confident.

I apppreciate your insight on it and I will give more reasoning the next few days on all plays when I get some time..

I would love for you...or maybe you and a guy like 'playwithme' to do the same kinda thing on OU...I know you like OU..and playwith me seems to have quite a bit of insight on them

 

[SoonerBS]

This is all you need to know on Oklahoma for the opening week, Big Al -- Lay money on Oklahoma and -28 -- UAB will not score more than 7 points and Peterson will run all over them!

 

[SoonerBS]

This is all you need to know on Oklahoma for the opening week, Big Al -- Lay money on Oklahoma and -28 -- UAB will not score more than 7 points and Peterson will run all over them!

Stoops emphasized, along with his players, at the Big 12 Conference press days that it "is very important to come out and be prepared to win EARLY in the season this year!" I look for them to make a statement to those PAC10 clowns in that opening game against UAB. If they can score lots of points, and I think they can if they stay healthy, then Stoops will let them. I MEAN HELL, HE'S PLAYING MACK BROWN'S BROTHER AFTER ALL!!!

 

[SoonerKL]

BAR- if you mean to break down OU's schedule, here it goes....

UAB- W (Given)

Washington- W (Could be one of the poorest Washington teams in a long time- except for last year's squad)

@ Oregon- I gotta say toss-up (This is will be the game that we see if OU has really matured enough to make a run at championships or if they are just over-rated)

Middle Tenn.- W (Given)

Texas- L (I just don't see how OU's young O-Line does anything against the Horns front 7)

Iowa St.- W (Seems like the Sooners play well the game after Texas under Stoops)

Colorado- W (The Buffs don't win in Norman this year- even though they have won 5 of the last 6 played on Owen Field against the Sooners but none of those W's were against Stoops. After losing to the Buffs at Col in '99 Bob has won 4 in a row.)

@ Missouri- W (May be closer than most think but the Tigers are no match for OU)

@ Texas A&M- Gonna say W (but these three outcomes say that it will be tough no matter what 2000-OU 35 A&M 31, 2002-A&M 30 OU 26, 2004-OU 42 A&M 35)

Texas Tech- HUGE W (They still talk about ReplayGate around here. Rufus Alexander was asked if Taureen Henderson had score yet at media day. The players say it is the past but we all know that they still think about it and I guarantee you Stoops does.)

@ Baylor- W (Bears have improved but not enough to play with the big boys)

@ Oklahoma St.- W (Don't look for the Cowboys to do much this year or in this game, but Bedlam does bring out the best in OSU)

so I would say 10 or 11. could be 12 but could also be 9. I know that doesn't help much but seriously there's a lot of questions about this team, especially the O-Line.)

 

[Tarheel Brn&Bred]

Hunt, do you live in that area? I'd really like to here someone's perspective on the WVU/Marshall game from that area. I've heard that Marshall has been trying to schedule this game for a long time, but that the WVU players could care less about it.

If you have any insight on this game, I'd sure appreciate it.

personally, I believe you answered ur on question. if the line is high enough to you, play Marshall. if not, do not play it. like u said, WVa does not care b/c they have nothing to gain from winning this game and everything to lose.

every state has this issue I am sure. although more teams get snake bit in bball than football.

 

[SoonerBS]

SoonerKL, I agree with your Oregon assessment, but I call the OU/Texas game a "toss up." Did you know Oklahoma is a -3 point favorite in that game right now in the future bets?

I think it's a little early to be giving points to either side right now in that game.

I think Oklahoma will lose 1 to Texas A&M this season. I look for Texas A&M to be a lot better this year. I like McGee better than McNeil from what I got to see him play last year. He did VERY WELL against Oklahoma whenever he came in for the injured McNeil. Oklahoma did not look good against the option game.

I'm thinking Oklahoma loses 2 regular season games, so I guess either Oregon ot Texas will give them those honors.

 

[SoonerKL]

Play- I could see where OU would be the 3 point fave against the Horns. The Sooners are a lot of the media's darlings this year. Again, I just can't see why these people get behind a team that has O-Line questions. The game is won within 3 yards on both sides of the ball. All they see is a healthy A.D and a promising Bomar and WR's corps. Well, a healthy A.D. and nice QB's and WR's will look like pop warner boys if the "big boys" don't do their job.

 

[SoonerBS]

Play- I could see where OU would be the 3 point fave against the Horns. The Sooners are a lot of the media's darlings this year. Again, I just can't see why these people get behind a team that has O-Line questions. The game is won within 3 yards on both sides of the ball. All they see is a healthy A.D and a promising Bomar and WR's corps. Well, a healthy A.D. and nice QB's and WR's will look like pop warner boys if the "big boys" don't do their job.

They'll do their job. The projected starters here have something going that was not present on last year's team until halfway through the season -- they have all played together for 1 season. These guys have a season of playing together and getting use to one another. They've been working exceptually hard in the offseason and it's beginning to tell by the looks of some them (Big "Duke" is slimming down a bit). The only thing they cannot afford this season is injury/ies.