NBA Preseason 2013
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nbafan88
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gonna join you here, bol bud
The Hawks open the home portion of their preseason season tonight and this will be more than exhibition.
When the Hawks host the Spurs, new coach Mike Budenholzer will stand on the opposite side of the court from his mentor Gregg Popovich. Budenholzer spent 19 seasons as a Spurs assistant before taking over the Hawks. Each coach had some interesting things to say about the reunion (the two, along with Hawks GM Danny Ferry had dinner together Wednesday night).
Budenholzer: "Surreal is one word you could use ... seeing him on the opposite bench and all those players that I spent so much time with. But I’m excited and focused on our players and our group and getting us going in the right direction."
Popovich: "I miss him more than anyone else does because I depended on him a lot. In games, he would make suggestions or do things and I wouldn’t know what the hell was going on. He substituted somebody or he changed the defense. I would say ‘Why did we do that?’ He would tell me and I would say ‘Oh yeah, that makes sense. That sounds good. I wish I had thought of it.’ You sort of miss all that. You have to start all over. I’ll have to actually coach more."
As for the game, the Hawks will start their normal unit of Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeMarre Carroll, Paul Millsap and Al Horford. Budenholzer said he expects to keep that unit together longer as the exhbition games continue.
Budenholzer would not say how much newly-acquired small forward Cartier Martin would play.
Ferry has returned from Spain where he spent several days visiting draft picks Lucas Nogueira and Mike Muscala. Ferry watched Muscala play a game and was encouraged by what he saw. He met with Nogueira, who has not played due to a knee contusion.
betman4ever
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From Houston Chronicle:
"Rockets to go big against Mavs, start Omer Asik with Dwight Howard
With Omer Asik ready for his first preseason playing time of the season, Rockets coach Kevin McHale will not wait any longer to see last season’s starting center in a lineup with this season’s starting center.
McHale said he would start Asik with Dwight Howard against the Mavericks on Monday, in part to see how well either defends the perimeter game of Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki.
“We’ll start big with Omer and Dwight, see how that looks,” McHale said. “It will be a really good test because Dirk is such a good spread four. Both Omer and Dwight haven’t done that that much. If that’s going to work, they’ll have to play against those type of guys. I want to look at that.
“They’re working their way through stuff. They both have the same instincts to protect the rim and protect the paint. When one is down there the other is going to have to pick up a trailing shooter. There’s some little things they’re working on.”
Howard said he had matched up with fours early in his career, but will have to adjust to the change in assignments. Asik refused to comment.
While playing the big men together will dramatically change the Rockets’ spacing offensively, McHale was more concerned with the defensive end, even though both are considered elite defensive players. He said both will likely have time matched up against Nowitzki.
“Both of them have defensive instincts to get back to the paint and cover the paint, both of them want to kind of stay back,” McHale said. “They don’t want to show high (on screens.) They are both a little bit uncomfortable playing out on the floor and one of the two against the Dirk Nowitzkis of the world is going to have to come out there and be a presence against them. In the game of basketball, contrary to what everybody else might think, you do go back to your instincts.”
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"Rockets to go big against Mavs, start Omer Asik with Dwight Howard
With Omer Asik ready for his first preseason playing time of the season, Rockets coach Kevin McHale will not wait any longer to see last season’s starting center in a lineup with this season’s starting center.
McHale said he would start Asik with Dwight Howard against the Mavericks on Monday, in part to see how well either defends the perimeter game of Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki.
“We’ll start big with Omer and Dwight, see how that looks,” McHale said. “It will be a really good test because Dirk is such a good spread four. Both Omer and Dwight haven’t done that that much. If that’s going to work, they’ll have to play against those type of guys. I want to look at that.
“They’re working their way through stuff. They both have the same instincts to protect the rim and protect the paint. When one is down there the other is going to have to pick up a trailing shooter. There’s some little things they’re working on.”
Howard said he had matched up with fours early in his career, but will have to adjust to the change in assignments. Asik refused to comment.
While playing the big men together will dramatically change the Rockets’ spacing offensively, McHale was more concerned with the defensive end, even though both are considered elite defensive players. He said both will likely have time matched up against Nowitzki.
“Both of them have defensive instincts to get back to the paint and cover the paint, both of them want to kind of stay back,” McHale said. “They don’t want to show high (on screens.) They are both a little bit uncomfortable playing out on the floor and one of the two against the Dirk Nowitzkis of the world is going to have to come out there and be a presence against them. In the game of basketball, contrary to what everybody else might think, you do go back to your instincts.”
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betman4ever
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Tonight, Asik will start at center and Howard will start at power forward.
“I am looking forward to the challenge,” Howard said. “I don’t think they are always going to start both of us, but I think it is good that we have that option to go big.”
Aside from learning to play alongside Asik tonight, Howard will also have another big challenge – guarding Dirk Nowitzki.
“It will be a challenge,” Howard said. “I am up for it though. He is 7 feet tall, can shoot threes, can be anywhere on the court. It will be weird at first not to get back on defense in the paint. I have to go back to the 3-point line.”''
“I am looking forward to the challenge,” Howard said. “I don’t think they are always going to start both of us, but I think it is good that we have that option to go big.”
Aside from learning to play alongside Asik tonight, Howard will also have another big challenge – guarding Dirk Nowitzki.
“It will be a challenge,” Howard said. “I am up for it though. He is 7 feet tall, can shoot threes, can be anywhere on the court. It will be weird at first not to get back on defense in the paint. I have to go back to the 3-point line.”''
betman4ever
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Çonsidering a Dallas 1st quarter bet not sure abut over under
SF_capper
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oh shit. Whats up JP! Gonna be around this season?
18-7
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only game I'm really looking to are phoenix and atlanta, but not liking either line. Atlanta with 2 preseason games left while Indi has 4. OKC has an ESPN game 2m, so would prob rest durant a bit today to let him play 2m
18-7
+7.69
only game I'm really looking to are phoenix and atlanta, but not liking either line. Atlanta with 2 preseason games left while Indi has 4. OKC has an ESPN game 2m, so would prob rest durant a bit today to let him play 2m
hugh613
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IND only have tonight @ ATL and Friday @ DAL before they open at home vs. the Magic next Tuesday.
Next up for the Pacers (1-5) is a preseason game in Atlanta against the Hawks (1-4) on Tuesday night. These final two tune-up games – Indiana closes preseason play in Dallas on Friday – will be treated like regular season games, Pacers coach Frank Vogel reiterated on Monday.
http://www.nba.com/pacers/preview-pacers-hawks-131022
SF_capper
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I'm going to be on so many detroit unders this year
Detroit/Washington UNDER 185.5- 1 unit
no jennings or stuckey. That detroit offense is horrible without jennings. Josh smith just shooting 18 footers. awesome. Also with a game 2m, and playing detroit again opening night, I'm not expecting wash to play its big guns hard today. Wouldn't mind bumping up either of these Unders
Detroit/Washington UNDER 185.5- 1 unit
no jennings or stuckey. That detroit offense is horrible without jennings. Josh smith just shooting 18 footers. awesome. Also with a game 2m, and playing detroit again opening night, I'm not expecting wash to play its big guns hard today. Wouldn't mind bumping up either of these Unders
bobby_john
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I got Pacers -2. Why choose Hawks? Vogel said the last two games would be played as if it was regular season.
bobby_john
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Great call on the under SF. Had a parlay with OKC and Spurs. Did not know durant would be out. Foolish of me, as theyre playing Bulls today.
ManchesterUk
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Great stuff SF,
THANKS
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THANKS
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bobby_john
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Celtics really struggled!
bobby_john
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Im actually more into the under 209.5 on Rockets-Spurs. 210 is a lot to score!!
SF_capper
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buzzer beater 3 loses the total. all good
looking at a couple faves today. Think this is a good day to wait for info, but I expect some teams to treat this as a reg season game, and others to use this to just completely rest up. Identifying when these teams meet eachother should be profitable.
looking at a couple faves today. Think this is a good day to wait for info, but I expect some teams to treat this as a reg season game, and others to use this to just completely rest up. Identifying when these teams meet eachother should be profitable.
bobby_john
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Pacers coach already said the last 2 games would be like regular season. Im already on them +2.5. Waiting for some infos to do one or two more bets. I like pelicans -2 and maybe a parlay with knicks, clippers and lakers.
Looks like SAC players are playing for starting roles tonight...have to like that motivation. Line is starting to come down.
DeMarcus Cousins is the only certainty on the Kings to be in the starting lineup on opening night, as the other four positions, including point guard, are still up for grabs.
Isaiah Thomas and Greivis Vasquez are up for the starting point guard job and we still don't know who is going to win. Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette and rookie Ben McLemore are all in the hunt to start at SG, while John Salmons is being challenged by Travis Outlaw to start at SF. And at power forward, Jason Thompson and Patrick Patterson are in a battle. And coach Michael Malone has also said that Friday night's preseason starters won't be an indication of who will start in the opener, as well that he plans on picking a starting five and rotation and sticking to it, rather than constantly mixing things up. Stay tuned.
DeMarcus Cousins is the only certainty on the Kings to be in the starting lineup on opening night, as the other four positions, including point guard, are still up for grabs.
Isaiah Thomas and Greivis Vasquez are up for the starting point guard job and we still don't know who is going to win. Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette and rookie Ben McLemore are all in the hunt to start at SG, while John Salmons is being challenged by Travis Outlaw to start at SF. And at power forward, Jason Thompson and Patrick Patterson are in a battle. And coach Michael Malone has also said that Friday night's preseason starters won't be an indication of who will start in the opener, as well that he plans on picking a starting five and rotation and sticking to it, rather than constantly mixing things up. Stay tuned.
metsrp86
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According to the Sacramento Bee, Kings head coach Mike Malone will use Friday’s game to continue figuring out his team’s “best lineup.” On the other hand, Doc Rivers said before Thursday’s practice that he expects to play his starters for about a half.
“I’ll play our guys probably the first half and then that’s it,” Rivers said. “I don’t care what I view it as. It’s what they view it as (the players). And it’s human nature. You’ve worked all year to get to the first game. This game’s not going to be a game that I’m going to do anything. I get that.”
THINGS TO WATCH
1. Playing time. With Rivers suggesting playing time will limited for his starters, expect to see the bench on the court a lot as they continue developing an identity. That will be aided by the likely return of Matt Barnes, who missed seven preseason games with a sore left calf.
“I think the second unit, getting that chemistry going, knowing exactly who we want to play through and I think getting everybody healthy” were two the things star reserve Jamal Crawford said he’ll be looking to see in Friday’s game.
The Kings are sorting through who will start in the other four positions next to DeMarcus Cousins, including three shooting guard candidates who will all likely see the court in L.A. Marcus Thornton is expected to start with rookie Ben McLemore and third-year guard Jimmer Fredette also playing. Fredette did not play in the previous meeting between the Clippers and Kings on Oct. 14.
2. Small ball vs. size. Adding Barnes to the mix will also allow Rivers to get creative with some of his lineups, Rivers wants to see Barnes in “correct” small units with Jared Dudley, Chris Paul and either Jamal Crawford and J.J. Redick and Blake Griffin or DeAndre Jordan. Friday will be the first, and only, preseason opportunity to do so and Rivers sounded happy it was coming against a team that could test the Clippers.
“They’re probably one of the riskiest teams to do it against because they’re so big,” Rivers said, referring to a front line that includes Cousins and Thompson, who are both 6-foot-11.
3. Playoff practices. According to several players, including Griffin and Crawford, the Clippers’ practice sessions have been beneficial throughout the month of October. Rivers terms them “Playoff practices,” something Crawford talked about Thursday.
“Our practices are like real games,” he said. “They’re all very efficient and we get after each other.”
NOTES
Point guard Darren Collison, who has scored 74 points in the past three games, is questionable with a bruised left kneecap… Cousins scored 31 points in the first meeting, but Griffin and Jordan did not play. Paul also sat out the game. All three will play limited minutes Friday… Thornton (rest) did not play in Wednesday’s matchup between the Kings and Warriors… The Clippers are 8-10 all-time in the preseason versus the Kings, but have won three of the last four…
THEY SAID IT
Rivers on establishing a rotation: “I don’t think the rotation will be established. I think that rotation word is overplayed in my opinion because it will always change. It will change with injuries, how people are playing. I think it takes a while to establish the one that you go to the most. We don’t know what that is yet.”
“I’ll play our guys probably the first half and then that’s it,” Rivers said. “I don’t care what I view it as. It’s what they view it as (the players). And it’s human nature. You’ve worked all year to get to the first game. This game’s not going to be a game that I’m going to do anything. I get that.”
THINGS TO WATCH
1. Playing time. With Rivers suggesting playing time will limited for his starters, expect to see the bench on the court a lot as they continue developing an identity. That will be aided by the likely return of Matt Barnes, who missed seven preseason games with a sore left calf.
“I think the second unit, getting that chemistry going, knowing exactly who we want to play through and I think getting everybody healthy” were two the things star reserve Jamal Crawford said he’ll be looking to see in Friday’s game.
The Kings are sorting through who will start in the other four positions next to DeMarcus Cousins, including three shooting guard candidates who will all likely see the court in L.A. Marcus Thornton is expected to start with rookie Ben McLemore and third-year guard Jimmer Fredette also playing. Fredette did not play in the previous meeting between the Clippers and Kings on Oct. 14.
2. Small ball vs. size. Adding Barnes to the mix will also allow Rivers to get creative with some of his lineups, Rivers wants to see Barnes in “correct” small units with Jared Dudley, Chris Paul and either Jamal Crawford and J.J. Redick and Blake Griffin or DeAndre Jordan. Friday will be the first, and only, preseason opportunity to do so and Rivers sounded happy it was coming against a team that could test the Clippers.
“They’re probably one of the riskiest teams to do it against because they’re so big,” Rivers said, referring to a front line that includes Cousins and Thompson, who are both 6-foot-11.
3. Playoff practices. According to several players, including Griffin and Crawford, the Clippers’ practice sessions have been beneficial throughout the month of October. Rivers terms them “Playoff practices,” something Crawford talked about Thursday.
“Our practices are like real games,” he said. “They’re all very efficient and we get after each other.”
NOTES
Point guard Darren Collison, who has scored 74 points in the past three games, is questionable with a bruised left kneecap… Cousins scored 31 points in the first meeting, but Griffin and Jordan did not play. Paul also sat out the game. All three will play limited minutes Friday… Thornton (rest) did not play in Wednesday’s matchup between the Kings and Warriors… The Clippers are 8-10 all-time in the preseason versus the Kings, but have won three of the last four…
THEY SAID IT
Rivers on establishing a rotation: “I don’t think the rotation will be established. I think that rotation word is overplayed in my opinion because it will always change. It will change with injuries, how people are playing. I think it takes a while to establish the one that you go to the most. We don’t know what that is yet.”
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