Monday MLB Discussion

we have similiar thoughts SN, except i like pitt +1.5 but if ohlendorf gets fucked up then i look like an idiot for betting on some unproven shitcan.
 
By far the most interesting game Arizona. Been fading this team relentlessly but not such a good idea on Monday's at home and a fairly reliable starter. May pass the game.
 
SportsNut said:
Leaning Cle and possibly an Over - Just see Minny as a team who on the road hits well vs bad LHP and tends to struggle vs good ones . Slowley has been medcore allowing 5 runs in 6 inn in both starts vs CLE and his ERA on normal rest is 4.31 compared to 2.66 on extra ...

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>5 Days Rest</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>4.31</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>77.1</TD><TD align=right>80</TD><TD align=right>37</TD><TD align=right>37</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>59</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>.266</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>> 5 Days Rest</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>2.60</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>65.2</TD><TD align=right>56</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>19</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>50</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>.230</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

His BAA is 286 away compared to .211 at home . His day splits are weak but his night stats very solid..looking at Slowleys season he tends to be very good vs a few teams which makes his stats look better then they are ...

Twins away vs LHSP wins vs Olson , GSmith , Meyer, Fiererbend , JSanders
Losses vs Purcey , Braden , Eveland adn Rowand Smith...

Slowley vs KC and OK plus IL play is 8-1 in 10 starts but 4-8 in the other 14 starts ...inculding 2-5 away vs teams not mentioned above and both wins vs DET ...1 he was shelled in ...Which he was really only solid in two his 1st vs Det and later on vs LAA...

8-1 10 starts 69.1 inn 54h 13r 12 er 5hrs 5bbs 61Ks

4-8 14 starts 77 inn 86h 47r all er 14hrs 16bbs 50Ks......

Other leans ..

Yanks ML - WSox is rough imo and yanks have a nice edge there . Buerhle has 14 road starts and 7 good ones and 7 real bad ones where he allowed at least 5 runs...Scary part is YANKS SUCK in games 1s but DET long ass delay waited a few hours like 3 befoe they started there DH then fly to NYY ...With Arod in the lineup Yanks tough at home vs LHP last 2 years ...

Nats +1.5 do look attractive but Lannan has struggled vs the Mets ...thinking over here possibly.....untrutsworthy pen as well



Looking at Dice K as well. We know he is better on extra rest which he gets here and same matchup when Kaz beat RS in Boston ...maybe 1st 5 inn under but lean game over 8 with the pens.....

KC ML : Davies has been decent at home and well SEA couldnt beat a watered down LAA lineup ....Silva always a question amrk but would bt suprised by an under here and leaning that way ...dont trust KC bats vs RHSP not named Bullington ....

Zona ML : Fading Hennessey pitching vs the same lineup twice basically . DBacks off two tough losses as well....thinking over .....

Over 9 Pitt and LAD : Off a 1-0 game . Ohlendorf has been so-so and cant show consistency while Kuroda has been medicore past few turns and guy seems to be medicore or awesome little imbewteen . Pitt bats showed some life as well this weekend...

Might be crazy and interested in UNDER 12 @ TExas or 1st 5 inning under ....

BOL all:cheers:
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SN: AZ has not been hitting at all.
 
jimbo1227 said:
SN, why would they open that was/nym total @ 8.5?
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I passed on this total but think I played just about everything else I mentioned......

It didnt actually open 8.5 . One book has it listed as 8.5 under -120 as the opener and everyone at 9 shaded under . Just a mistake somewhere along the line....Didnt do crazy research just checked the line history ....

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class=smtext2>09/14/08 5:15:06 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>160 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:55:04 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>150</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:15:04 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:24:05 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:03:36 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110 (Open)</TD></TR><TR class=datahead><TD colSpan=3>Offshore Odds</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 9:17:13 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>151 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:17:10 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>146</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:22:10 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:37:09 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>141</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:02:10 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>135</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:12:12 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>136</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 4:47:25 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>136</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:07:30 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>131</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 3:58:47 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>OFF</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -109 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 4:23:42 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>156 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -109</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 10:13:43 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>153</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -109</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:28:43 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>153</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -108</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:53:43 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>153</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -107</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 8:58:43 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>153</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -109</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:19:45 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>146</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -109</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:33:46 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>146</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:13:44 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:18:45 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -107</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:28:45 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:53:44 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -116</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:08:44 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>139</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -116</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:53:44 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -116</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:18:44 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:43:44 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>139</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:28:46 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:38:45 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>137</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:53:46 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>136</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:58:45 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>135</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:03:45 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>132</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -114</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:08:45 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>132</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 5:33:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>155 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:23:31 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>148</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:53:31 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:13:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 3:33:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>139</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:13:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>134</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 8:54:15 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:23:19 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>137</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:33:19 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>137</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:03:19 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>134</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 4:33:20 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>130</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:52:28 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:22:28 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>135</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:02:28 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>130</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 2:13:20 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>OFF</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>8.5u -120 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 3:13:18 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>OFF</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 3:23:17 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>164 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 4:23:17 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>160</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 4:33:18 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>155</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 10:23:18 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>152</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 9:03:17 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>150</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9o -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:23:12 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>155 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 9:33:19 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>150</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:33:11 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:33:12 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 2:33:12 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>135</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:33:12 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:04:09 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>150 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:14:09 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>155</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:44:09 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>135</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 8:14:26 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>156 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 10:14:25 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>152</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 11:14:27 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>154</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 11:54:25 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>156</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:44:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>154</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 3:24:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>154</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -105</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 8:04:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>152</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 8:14:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>154</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 8:44:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>153</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 9:04:26 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>148</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 9:34:26 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:34:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>145</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:44:26 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>143</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:54:25 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>140</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 12:14:29 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>137</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 1:44:27 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>135</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 2:24:26 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>134</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 4:24:28 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>133</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:04:29 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>132</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -120</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD class=smtext2 width="40%"></TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Odds (Line)</TD><TD class=datahl2c align=middle width="30%">Over/Under (Total)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/14/08 9:51:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>151 (Open)</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115 (Open)</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 10:21:31 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>148</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 11:56:31 AM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>142</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9u -115</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 4:41:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>142</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 6:16:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>139</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=smtext2>09/15/08 7:06:31 PM</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>137</TD><TD class=smtext2 align=middle>9 -110</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD 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cashflowmatters said:
SN: AZ has not been hitting at all.
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Hardest thing to do for any SP is face the same team in consecutive turns . reason why I played Boston and Over . Gonna probably the reason why I play Zona and over ......

which Boston got 4 in the top 1st already earning me a split with 8.5 to play ....

I just tend to look for opposite results in rematches especially if one outing was suprisingly good or bad...:cheers:
 
tuck321 said:
Padres first 5.
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I'd love to know the reasoning behind your play? Colorado so solid vs. LH's at home 16-10 overall, hitting .297 and scoring probably close to 6 runs (don't have that stat available). Admittedly don't know the pitchers in this matchup very well.
 
2-5 last 7 scoring 23 runs at home vs lefties. No home field edge this season between these teams. Feel Colorado is in major funk at no playoffs and have seen Padres pitchers road results last 4 road games in minors which were very good.
 
tuck321 said:
2-5 last 7 scoring 23 runs at home vs lefties. No home field edge this season between these teams. Feel Colorado is in major funk at no playoffs and have seen Padres pitchers road results last 4 road games in minors which were very good.
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Thanks Tuck, I knew you had an angle and was curious to know what it was. Appreciate the reply :shake:
 
I understand some of your reasoning in Arizona Nut. After stranding that many runners the previous night certainly points to scoring tonight. Going on a Monday with a reliable starter but overall this team is Hopeless and you are laying 60 plus cents with them against a team that is actually trying. That seems like a big reach.
 
tuck321 said:
I understand some of your reasoning in Arizona Nut. After stranding that many runners the previous night certainly points to scoring tonight. Going on a Monday with a reliable starter but overall this team is Hopeless and you are laying 60 plus cents with them against a team that is actually trying. That seems like a big reach.
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I have thos all these crazy theories applies . One is teams off consecutive tough losses whether xtra innings or closers blowing games tend to have the same outcome in the 3rd game ....WIN or blowout hangover loss . Since Hennessesy beat them last week and Davis lost wekk rolled a 1/2 unit on Zona and 1 unit on over 9.5 ....

I look at like this take two equal teams and give 1 home field with equal SP and bullpens the line should be abouit -140 ...think Zona has slight pitching edges and lineups are a wash so -170 was fair IMO.......I dont believe a team loses in extra innings doesnt try......

Just said not overthinking anything today rolling with my instincts ...

:shake: BOL
 
SportsNut said:
Leaning Cle and possibly an Over - Just see Minny as a team who on the road hits well vs bad LHP and tends to struggle vs good ones . Slowley has been medcore allowing 5 runs in 6 inn in both starts vs CLE and his ERA on normal rest is 4.31 compared to 2.66 on extra ...

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>5 Days Rest</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>4.31</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>77.1</TD><TD align=right>80</TD><TD align=right>37</TD><TD align=right>37</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>59</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>.266</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>> 5 Days Rest</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>2.60</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>65.2</TD><TD align=right>56</TD><TD align=right>20</TD><TD align=right>19</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>50</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>.230</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

His BAA is 286 away compared to .211 at home . His day splits are weak but his night stats very solid..looking at Slowleys season he tends to be very good vs a few teams which makes his stats look better then they are ...

Twins away vs LHSP wins vs Olson , GSmith , Meyer, Fiererbend , JSanders
Losses vs Purcey , Braden , Eveland adn Rowand Smith...

Slowley vs KC and OK plus IL play is 8-1 in 10 starts but 4-8 in the other 14 starts ...inculding 2-5 away vs teams not mentioned above and both wins vs DET ...1 he was shelled in ...Which he was really only solid in two his 1st vs Det and later on vs LAA...

8-1 10 starts 69.1 inn 54h 13r 12 er 5hrs 5bbs 61Ks

4-8 14 starts 77 inn 86h 47r all er 14hrs 16bbs 50Ks......

Other leans ..

Yanks ML - WSox is rough imo and yanks have a nice edge there . Buerhle has 14 road starts and 7 good ones and 7 real bad ones where he allowed at least 5 runs...Scary part is YANKS SUCK in games 1s but DET long ass delay waited a few hours like 3 befoe they started there DH then fly to NYY ...With Arod in the lineup Yanks tough at home vs LHP last 2 years ...

Nats +1.5 do look attractive but Lannan has struggled vs the Mets ...thinking over here possibly.....untrutsworthy pen as well

Looking at Dice K as well. We know he is better on extra rest which he gets here and same matchup when Kaz beat RS in Boston ...maybe 1st 5 inn under but lean game over 8 with the pens.....

KC ML : Davies has been decent at home and well SEA couldnt beat a watered down LAA lineup ....Silva always a question amrk but would bt suprised by an under here and leaning that way ...dont trust KC bats vs RHSP not named Bullington ....

Zona ML : Fading Hennessey pitching vs the same lineup twice basically . DBacks off two tough losses as well....thinking over .....

Over 9 Pitt and LAD : Off a 1-0 game . Ohlendorf has been so-so and cant show consistency while Kuroda has been medicore past few turns and guy seems to be medicore or awesome little imbewteen . Pitt bats showed some life as well this weekend...

Might be crazy and interested in UNDER 12 @ TExas or 1st 5 inning under ....

BOL all:cheers:
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Great start so far ....

Over 9 Pitt WIN
Nats +1.5 Won but passed on it ...
Yanks WIN (added small play under as well)
Boston won and over 8 was easy .......
KC ML won and under 10 won
Indians won but Over lost

Hope I get a split at Zona ...:cheers:
 
SportsNut said:
Hardest thing to do for any SP is face the same team in consecutive turns . reason why I played Boston and Over . Gonna probably the reason why I play Zona and over ......

which Boston got 4 in the top 1st already earning me a split with 8.5 to play ....

I just tend to look for opposite results in rematches especially if one outing was suprisingly good or bad...:cheers:
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SN : Take a look at TUES mtchup between Mets/Wash these teams faced one another last week & the same matchup of starting pitchers produced a game of 23 runs. Let me know what ya think about this matchup in Tues discussion, thank you!
 
SN : Same situation in the Bost/TB game on Tue, they met last week with same 2 starters TB won 4-2, what do ya think here as well.
 
cashflowmatters said:
SN : Same situation in the Bost/TB game on Tue, they met last week with same 2 starters TB won 4-2, what do ya think here as well.
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Probably riding Beckett and Boston ML again. At Wash who the Nats start are always of great importnace along with usage of both pens but looking at the UNDER maybe 1st 5 under...:shake:
 
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