Monday i'm too scared of the open right now to fire Discussion

[nbafan88]

One site says 65 percent, another says 81

It's all bs

not if you know the difference


one is actual wagers

one is people clicking picks in a contest

 

[tru]

not if you know the difference


one is actual wagers

one is people clicking picks in a contest

Agreed, I don't understand why anyone even uses wagerline/covers splits

 

[nbafan88]

and books lose too... every day they lose on totals with high percentages but imo you have to look for the totals that just dont make sense or look too good to be true... sometimes the books cant do anything and they have to put out a line... just the nature of the business

 

[Gyno]

Which is one SBR uses?

 

[nbafan88]

5 Dimes according to the forums there but im not positive

but using just one book is not going to get an accurate result... doesn't make much of a difference

 

[GWarner27]

not if you know the difference


one is actual wagers

one is people clicking picks in a contest

I consider covers more representative of the public, especially when there's no payment involved or books trying to represent their action with information that I consider very likely to be false

 

[Hollywood Beaker]

I consider covers more representative of the public, especially when there's no payment involved or books trying to represent their action with information that I consider very likely to be false

Agreed. A lot of people who are trying to win free contests will just click the "obvious picks" without a second thought.

 

[twinkie13]

anyone fuckin with blaty/tex game?

 

[GWarner27]

anyone fuckin with blaty/tex game?

Been busy today but I like holland

 

[tru]

I consider covers more representative of the public, especially when there's no payment involved or books trying to represent their action with information that I consider very likely to be false

Why would tha books put out false information that to 90% or more bettors doesn't matter?

 

[tru]

And also to covers/wagerline, it's fake money, no real money betting is represented. Guesses and hunches and big favorites, with no money backing. Which would matter more asking 20 bettors how they bet this matchup or asking 20 random ass people who will win this matchup? It's a no brainer.

 

[nbafan88]

I consider covers more representative of the public, especially when there's no payment involved or books trying to represent their action with information that I consider very likely to be false

Are you serious?

I don't know how many times I have to go over this.

It's quite simple why books would give out the data.

1) It brings forth more money being wagered.... money from contrarian gamblers... more money = more liquidity which is ALL THE BOOKS WANT.

2) Most people don't give a shit about the percentages because they are just oblivious or they have this feeling that books are trying to fuck with their heads... so since this is the case.. why not give the %s anyway?

3) SI pays them for this data.

 

[Gyno]

And also to covers/wagerline, it's fake money, no real money betting is represented. Guesses and hunches and big favorites, with no money backing. Which would matter more asking 20 bettors how they bet this matchup or asking 20 random ass people who will win this matchup? It's a no brainer.

Okay..

Lets talk about the books consensus line.. They throw out 70-30s claiming 70% of the "bets" are on team "X".. But how do we know the volume of that 70%? The 30% could still have more money on them.

 

[nbafan88]

and we have reached 10 in philly... or is this just on my local?

 

[CollegeKingRex]

screen is painted with a lot of 9.5 flat in Philly, nbafan. I would love to go UNDER 10 flat in that game.

 

[KJ]

i have 10 u-20

 

[nbafan88]

yeah same here.. i would take under 10 even but im not laying 20 cents... always wary whenever a total moves a whole run

 

[KJ]

back to 9.5

 

[nbafan88]

wheres nut

 

[GWarner27]

And also to covers/wagerline, it's fake money, no real money betting is represented. Guesses and hunches and big favorites, with no money backing. Which would matter more asking 20 bettors how they bet this matchup or asking 20 random ass people who will win this matchup? It's a no brainer.

20 random ass people is a better sample size than the few accounts that may bet a game at 5dimes. And 18% could mean even money if small wagers make up the other 82 compared to another place where everyone's even

 

[tuck321]

Tough spot for Max with that 0-2 record with Fletcher at a spot he has had trouble with.

 

[nbafan88]

Kazmir with 7.33 Run support at home

Max with 5.88 Run support away

 

[nbafan88]

Max's last two starts at cleveland have been gems

 

[Hollywood Beaker]

The guy going for his 21st in a row in Covers streak contest is on the Reds. The guy going for his 19th in a row...the Brewers.

 

[nbafan88]

i would hedge :thumbsup2:

 

[SportsNut]

Busy day ...almost took the day off...almost...ll...

No units listed means 3u ...
nats ml 6u
indians ml 5u
f5 and +1.5
over @ yanks, kc tt over
over @ pitt 7u, over oak tt
Oakland 5u
twins ml nd +1.5

 

[SportsNut]

Boston , cwas and over...the sides wete losers for me yestetday...be back in abit

 

[nbafan88]

on that kc tt over and pitt over with ya

 

[nbafan88]

bailey vs milw

[h=4]Year-by-Year:[/h] Click year to see all splits · SHARE using Permanent Link

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<colgroup><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col></colgroup> <thead> [TR]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]I[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc show_partial_when_sorting, align: left"]Year[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]<nobr>W-L%</nobr>[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]ERA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]G[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GS[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]CG[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SHO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SV[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]R[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]ER[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HR[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BK[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]WP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]WHIP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO/9[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO/BB[/TH]
[/TR]
</thead> <tbody> [TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2008[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.455[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.67[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2009[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11.81[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.875[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.75[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2010[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.38[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.417[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.50[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2011[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.667[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.50[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].333[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]69[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.468[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.75[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.71[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.286[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.00[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody> <tfoot> [TR="class: stat_total"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Career Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]69.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]78[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]46[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]299[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.478[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.33[/TD]
[/TR]
</tfoot>[/TABLE]


Lohse vs Cincy

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[TABLE="class: stats_table"]
<colgroup><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col></colgroup> <thead> [TR]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]I[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc show_partial_when_sorting, align: left"]Year[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]<nobr>W-L%</nobr>[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]ERA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]G[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GS[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]CG[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SHO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SV[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]R[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]ER[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HR[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BK[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]WP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]WHIP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO/9[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO/BB[/TH]
[/TR]
</thead> <tbody> [TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2001[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.333[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.50[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2008[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.421[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2009[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].333[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.79[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]60[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.429[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.67[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2010[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.29[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.714[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2011[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.42[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]78[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.67[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.00[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody> <tfoot> [TR="class: stat_total"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Career Total[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]69[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]298[/TD]
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[twinkie13]

Texas just looked like lil league there

how does that happen?

 

[twinkie13]

this will guarantee runs for Os now

 

[tru]

20 random ass people is a better sample size than the few accounts that may bet a game at 5dimes. And 18% could mean even money if small wagers make up the other 82 compared to another place where everyone's even

Of course but I'm still waiting to hear why and how u think it helps a book to put fake information out when I honestly would say less than 5% would care either way about it. What's tha purpose of faking it?

 

[twinkie13]

We used to get the Asstros here locally....we get the Rangers now

I dont know who does there games but the commentators are fantastic

 

[tru]

Okay..

Lets talk about the books consensus line.. They throw out 70-30s claiming 70% of the "bets" are on team "X".. But how do we know the volume of that 70%? The 30% could still have more money on them.

Don't know that, I never said I knew money wise or that books shared money splits.

 

[tru]

What's good Twinkie?

 

[twinkie13]

grindin bases dog

you bet baseball?

 

[twinkie13]

and Holland does his thang, gets outta there

looks like he has some good stuff today

 

[KJ]

holland got out of all that

 

[nbafan88]

1-0 KC

phil sucks at home. Extreme fly ball pitcher. Wind blowing out to right. Plenty more chances to come

 

[tru]

grindin bases dog

you bet baseball?

Honestly I hit my mark in bases a month an a half in wit ump splits on totals, didn't even bother wit normal capping this year. Hit my goal an dont need to put any more time into tha sport, more time to prepare for cfb.

 

[twinkie13]

Honestly I hit my mark in bases a month an a half in wit ump splits on totals, didn't even bother wit normal capping this year. Hit my goal an dont need to put any more time into tha sport, more time to prepare for cfb.

:shake: good stuff

i look forward to cfb and nfl

 

[twinkie13]

holland got out of all that

:shake:

 

[tru]

:shake: good stuff

i look forward to cfb and nfl

That daily ump topic has valuable info in it each day, use it.

Think I got lsu #4 sec, what u think?

 

[SportsNut]

White Sox ml 12u
over 10u, tt over 5u

Just sticking to my points yesterday but a rh here...garza faced weak linups and still thinl cws is decent ay the moment ....

Arizona interest as greinke fade....no interest in bailey but tgink he is fine

 

[KJ]

i tried doing blind ump splits a couple yrs ago and only faired ok, as shorty mentioned i think, i use whip more than any other stat there

lots of under umps but the game seems to be trending to more runs, couldn't quite figure out where to cut it off

i think i like the weather stats just as much if not more, but some of these umps are certainly money, prefer the over guys more at this pt

 

[twinkie13]

That daily ump topic has valuable info in it each day, use it.

Think I got lsu #4 sec, what u think?

think you could flip them and Fla, or vice versa

Jeremy Hill is gonna sting a lil bit if he out and they lost hella talent on D. Garbageburger should be better this year and the rec corp should be better as a whole

 

[twinkie13]

That daily ump topic has valuable info in it each day, use it.

Think I got lsu #4 sec, what u think?

I try and use the Ump thread and I always peep it...just never been a huge part of my style, but it has pushed me on and popped me off some plays

 

[twinkie13]

Elvis just got Beltre again so bad LOL

 

[twinkie13]

these guys kill me

 

[tru]

think you could flip them and Fla, or vice versa

Jeremy Hill is gonna sting a lil bit if he out and they lost hella talent on D. Garbageburger should be better this year and the rec corp should be better as a whole

Yeah I can't see qb play any worse than last year, we will see though