MLB June 25th Discussion - REDS/RAYS off sweeps of top teams, where do they go from here?

Been 36 years since Reds swept 4 from chubs

NYY, CUBS, ATL went 1-9 over weekend vs TB, CIN and BAL

Just shows, in this game even losers win some
 
SNELL deadly at home last 20 starts especially RL 13-6 +43.6% ROI

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Oakland:
  • Over is 7-1 in OAK last 8 games as an underdog.
  • Over is 15-5-2 in OAK last 22 overall.
Detroit:
  • Over is 5-2-1 in DET last 8 games as a favorite.
  • DET are 5-12 in their last 17 Mon. games.
  • Over is 19-6-1 in Zimmermanns last 26 home starts.
Head to Head:
  • OAK are 7-3 in the last 10 meetings in Detroit.
 
Folty improves on 6+. Has bad history vs Reds. Reds only 2 injuries and 7-2 record after 3 consecutive wins and are hitting great
 
Re under in Houston. Maybe. Both pitchers have been hit hard in the past by the opposite team. Verlander off 122. Happ on 4 days rest his worst. Actually have always liked Happ a fine ex Astro having a good season.
Have read the Reds have an extremely high rate of overs on Monday
No early interest in the Detroit game except for a desire that they win except that the Detroit pitcher has had a great record in day games although with recently bad numbers. He should be playing with great motivation here.
 
tuck321 said:
Re under in Houston. Maybe. Both pitchers have been hit hard in the past by the opposite team. Verlander off 122. Happ on 4 days rest his worst. Actually have always liked Happ a fine ex Astro having a good season.
Have read the Reds have an extremely high rate of overs on Monday
No early interest in the Detroit game except for a desire that they win except that the Detroit pitcher has had a great record in day games although with recently bad numbers. He should be playing with great motivation here.
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Cinci on Mondays this year is 7-1, last three yrs. 31-16.
 
Just reading 3-5 for Reds 3-6 Braves but have no doubt Reds are coming in intending to win
Will be looking at the Detroit game. In this situation I think they should be a favorite. Somehow that Detroit pitcher just WINS day games and they are playing with MAJOR frustration
 
Conflicting trends and info in Detroit Both seem to have new catchers. No history withLittle Zimmermann. Jackson 11.25 ERA on what seems to be 4 innings
Just doing what feels right over half unit. Detroit ML and RL. Zimmermann has been a great day pitcher Edwin way under average and ump favors the home teams a littlr. Tail, fade or ignore.
 
tuck321 said:
Just reading 3-5 for Reds 3-6 Braves but have no doubt Reds are coming in intending to win
Will be looking at the Detroit game. In this situation I think they should be a favorite. Somehow that Detroit pitcher just WINS day games and they are playing with MAJOR frustration
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Tigs 22-17 in day games this year +23% ROI
23-16 RL and 22-17 under total

team = Tigers and season = 2018 and DAY
SU: 22-17 (0.13, 56.4%) avg line: 125.3 / -137.7 on / against: +$954 / -$1,188 ROI: +23.2% / -21.5%
RL: 23-16 (0.94, 59.0%) avg line: -119.2 / -101.5 on / against: +$470 / -$700 ROI: +8.9% / -14.4%
OU: 17-22-0 (0.40, 43.6%) avg total: 8.8 over / under: -$710 / +$343 ROI: -16.5% / +8.0%
 
I can’t seem to get off Oakland here. Since it looks like you aren’t on Detroit Tuck, I am gonna hope the stats favoring Zimmerman and the Tigers don’t come up here.
 
OK. Have only played Tampa so far as the harsh reality their is clear first half and game.
Houston and Texas seem clear
Houston bull pen edge large as well as big days edge
Texas has been playing well and Hamels very tough on 5 but significant chalk requires umps
 
Miller on 6 last 2 years average minus on 6+
Padres pitcher on 4 about a 2 ERA other conditiong night and away a little vague
Maedra average minus on 5 and night.
Want to fade if Grandal catches over and opposition look good as 6.59 ERA is listed. This is not sure but it is real everything is a composite
 
mrmarbury said:
Mr pickem love this chart. Look forward to it every day....anyway to get it posted againlater in the day to see if percentages have changed closer to game time?
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I will do it time to time but since it's a pay service I'm sure DB dont want me giving it away all the time

You can get decent odds free with side percents at https://beta.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/

..may be the best free odds

couple others
Scores/Odds
Odds Portal: Odds Comparison, Sports Betting Odds
mobile odds
also sportsinsights and covers got free odds too

Don Best is the king though kinda pricey
 
Developing leans to under in Mets game and leaning Mets. Lugo 30 innings at home .90 ERA. His team has been buried.
Taillion is on 5. Higher then normal but career best and his team has been buried
Days like Mets but both teams offenses very poor.
Dodger game and possibly Atlanta game over. Texas game could easily be an under
 
When I listed Tampa 6-0 on Monday I was copying Lawrence. I am seeing 6-1 and Washington 8-2. Still like Tampa Cleveland 7-1 to Cards 3-4 with a starter on 3 days. Padres 3-8 Texas 2-7 Under.
KC 1-7.
 
No history with either starter. Small bet on Arizona no total play just very little trust in the starters
 
Not happy .5 unit under in Tampa. Gio 12 innings with ump 1.50 ERA No contact snell
 
Houston has a very favorable ump. I like the over. The ump has 7 good innings with Verlander nothing with Happ. Dead under. l bet small under. I am trying to be objective. 1 unit rl. One unit gag ML
because there are negatives here
 
tuck321 said:
1 unit bet under 7.5 in Mets.
Under in Miami need to look at it
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The work I did overnight had me leaning that way in miami. Like miller to have a good outing (6 strong 2 runs imo), I was just getting tired and didn’t come up w a number I felt great about for zona offense vs straily.
 
I like the under in pads/ranger game but like rangers as well, was too pricey for me overnight but looks like it has came way down to a number I’m way more comfortable laying (still don’t play many favs but occasionally I’ll pull trigger in -120/-130 range). Now I have more to think about, not always good for me, lol.
 
2daBank said:
I like the under in pads/ranger game but like rangers as well, was too pricey for me overnight but looks like it has came way down to a number I’m way more comfortable laying (still don’t play many favs but occasionally I’ll pull trigger in -120/-130 range). Now I have more to think about, not always good for me, lol.
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Lets go Dan! Take it to da bank!
 
I got lucky in that Oak game. These 7 pm games looked tough. Trying to follow all your guys stats was tough, haha. I wanted to take TB, but missed. Looking at the Tribe and Atl. I know Texas has been hot too.
 
Ump in Braves game used to be a homer but not now Folty same sample 4 ERA/ Reds pitcher on bad rest but team hot as hell. Small bet over
 
Anyone seeing the trends on this Tex game? Opened at 170 and down to under 130? Seems suspect with Texas as hot as they are and majority of betting on them. I know Pads pitcher started off hot, but pretty sure he got beat up his last few starts. I think Hamels should be a good play here, but these odds are making me second guess
 
T-Rex said:
Anyone seeing the trends on this Tex game? Opened at 170 and down to under 130? Seems suspect with Texas as hot as they are and majority of betting on them. I know Pads pitcher started off hot, but pretty sure he got beat up his last few starts. I think Hamels should be a good play here, but these odds are making me second guess
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Honestly wasn’t thinking bout touching a side until it got bet down (just too pricey for me overnight). Def like hamels to be good and rangers have hit lefties better than any other team facing a lefty starter tonight (well save for Astros of course, lol).. I played rangers 1st 5 rl at even money and under 9 +115.
 
So pissed I missed 1st pitch of Seattle game. I was going super square there, can’t believe how cheap they were vs the biggest losers in the game imo.
 
Most teams are stupid. Why not the Dodgers. 6.50 ERA catcher in today.
Overlooks likely. Not really big on Cubs pitcher but maybe see after ump
 
2daBank said:
Rangers 1st 5 rl ev and u9 +115 for me.. gl tonight my dude.
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Since I missed the 6 o’clock starts (well did put in a overnight round robin that had some). Guess this game and the cards under is it for me rest of night..hopefully cards game doesn’t get affected by weather, getting bunch of little storms popping up all over the area but nothing widespread so who knows??

Gl everyone.
 
Tampa looks great. first half under that I did not like garbage. Under in Miami that I did not bet looks bad and Arizona looks good. Lugo no history with ump falling off a cliff
 
tuck321 said:
Tampa looks great. first half under that I did not like garbage. Under in Miami that I did not bet looks bad and Arizona looks good. Lugo no history with ump falling off a cliff
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Unfortunately Tampa was one I was planning to add but missed start, of course have little of that gm under even tho didn’t love it either. Lol.
 
2 nothing Toronto. Under looks really good now. Never again. If I d not like it screw it.
 
mrpickem said:
wtf, hit cle and under since they waited lol
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Not sure wtf they waiting for?? I’m like 10-15 minutes from stadium and it thundered a little but never rained and seems kinda clear now.,

I miss the old Larussa days where if rain was coming we would elect to start the game and instead of using our starter in that 1st inning he would throw a relief pitcher out there, then inevitably it would rain and opposing teams starter would be forced to pitch then wait out a delay!! I believe the rule is it up to hone team whether they start game or not but once it starts it then on umps/mlb when/if to delay it.. I always liked TLR but after suffering through years of incompetence under matheny I feel like I might have took Tony’s greatness for granted a little bit!! Just everything about the cardinals that everyone else hated but made us sooo good are just no longer a part of the culture. Sad..
 
redddddssssss

Last week the Reds went 7-0, outscoring their opponents 53-27, their starters went 6-0 with a 3.45 ERA and 38 strikeouts to 16 walks, while the offense hit .318/.417/.557 (164 wRC+) with a 12.8% walk rate and 19.2% K-rate and .239 ISO. FYI
 
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