my gawd, g-man. i know there is no middle ground w/ the yanks...you either love them or you hate them. but get a fucking clue, dude.
if you're gonna yankee bash, at least get your shit straight...don't make assinine comments...and know what the fuck you're talking about.
besides...your focus should be on your own team now. a team that'll hopefully finish off the bosox in game six.
are you perturbed this story overshadowed game five or something? perturbed that even now, the yanks are the most relevant story in baseball?
i'll stop here. but if you really want to argue business w/ me...or the torre situation...or george...i'll be glad to get into it, and point out just how assinine your comments/opinions on this topic are.
but come on. he buys a team for a few million, and it's now the most valued franshise in all of baseball. he wins, and he makes money...which just so happens to be the 2 bottom lines to this type of operation. his team generates by far the most revenue in the league. he's got the cable network. and all those taxes and so forth everyone likes to bring up will ALL be going back into his/the yankee's pocket very shortly. (read up on the incentives for building a new ballpark, if you don't believe me.)
anyways, both Joe and George did the right thing. it was a smart business move, and neither side comes off looking bad to those that matter. bottom line...today was 100% by design, for all involved.
Yanks. Just read your post here.
Back off some. This post, is only that a good man and manager, told an owner to shove it up his ass.
My agenda on this subject has nothing to do with the Indians. Dont hate the yankees at all. Just dont like businessmen who treat sucessfull people inappropriately. Especially when, for 12 years the media couldnt find much at fault with Torre. You feel it was a smart business move? I dont. Time will tell - and we'll see who stays with the Yankees (free agents).
I dont feel that managers can do much to get hitters and pitchers to win every day, but they sure can lose games with bonehead moves and player selection in certian games. Torre didnt do much wrong. Many managers do. Wedge is suspect in IMO.
Steinbrenner, likely, would have never made 12 playoff runs without Torre. Dont give credit to any owner who has more money then baseball itself. Cable TV made it possible for all the skyrocket profits for owners and all the millions of dollars for players to play a game. A GAME! This means exactly NOTHING in anyone's lives except for the families of the owners and players.
Mantle said it best 40-some years ago. Something like this. "Fans think were hero's. The real hero's - are the fathers of boys who admire us ballplayers. How many players paid your rent, put food on the table, and raised your kids. Players just play a game. The real hero's are those that fight for our country.
Steibrenner, is nothing more than an entertainment company. His other business ventures, do more for mankind than any Yankee team ever could.
Just to make my point about Torre, he's a man's man. There was principle, dignity and character involved. Something that Steinbrenner lacks within the game.