Is EVERYONE here on Utah???

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Seems like everyone on this site has Utah +10 or 10.5. I have just broswed for 5-10 minutes and have not seen one Bama pick. What is everyone's reasoning behind this pick? Not trying to start a nasty debate, just good helpful discussion. Bama is mean, fast and powerful. Who has Utah really faced this year who compares to Bama? TCU? Or State? Thanks in advance
 
I won;t be touching this game till near gameday. Its one of those that I definetly wait on and read as much as possible. In all honesty, I am with Horses here and have an intial lean to Alabama.
 
i mean, their defense is pretty sick and i expect them to be able to run for days against Utah. i think the smart thing is to wait it out and do as much cool headed research as possible, i just had a very strong lean to Bama when i first saw the line of -10.
 
really? to me it seems the opposite...horn is about the only other guy i've seen on utah here

i don't see any weaknesses that would suggest they should be 10+ pt dogs to a team like bama. i think this is the shocker of bowl season. i'll have much more on this game as the week goes on if you're interested in getting a viewpoint from the other side
 
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really? to me it seems the opposite...horn is about the only other guy i've seen on utah here

i don't see any weaknesses that would suggest they should be 10+ pt dogs to a team like bama. i think this is the shocker of bowl season. i'll have much more on this game as the week goes on if you're interested in getting a viewpoint from the other side
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yea, i am interested in and welcome ALL viewpoints. My reasoning is pretty basic, as usual. Utah struggled against TCU. Utah had 275 yards of total offense, 80 of which game on the last drive. IMO Bama's defense is much better than TCU's. Utah beat BYU but BYU was able to move the ball. The total yards were close to the same (BYU had 6 turnovers including 5 INT's). I don't see Bama doing that. They should be able to run the ball and I think Julio Jones is a stud. Bama was able to run for 136 yards against Florida I believe they will be able to run for over 150 against Utah.
 
Utah was a team that simply put should of had a few moe losses this season.

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The obvious games you look at there are Oregon State and TCU. We all know TCU losing outright and ATS was one of the biggest mooses of the year. They dominated that game. Credit to Utah, this team fights till the end and don't want to downgrade them but TCU should have had this won handily come the 4th qtr. Oregon State really took it to them and simply blew it late.
 
I think Bama can win this by about 17-21 points I really believe Bama will have max effort.

The think is I think the matchup is better for utah. Utah needed a team alot like themselves to matchup up whereas I think Bama could of played well against just about any style

Utah's defense is really good 14th nationally and if I think Bama will have difficulty scoring.

-----What would you make TCU vs. Bama on a neutral???

I really don't put TCU behind Bama much at all. I think TCU's run defense is just as good actually better and the TCU run is not as good but underrated as well as TCU passing.

---With TCU the Utes needed lots of breaks or TCU could of blown it open.

It's the same thing here.
 
For me it's a motivtional thing. Bama matches up well with utah imo Yao ... but traditionally teams that lose their national title hopes the last game of the year , don't play inspired football in their bowl game. Meanwhile the non-bcs schools are looking to make a name for themselves .... get on the video game box covers like boise st .. prove that they belong etc etc etc

I feel the same way as BAR .. i want to read a lot more on this game closer to gametime to have a better feel. I could actually see myself on either side of this game depending how i feel the motivational angle plays out .. which for someone like me probably means i dont play the game at all.

As far as utah .. they actually could have lost quite a few games as someone pointed out ....

1. they almost choked the michigan game away.
2. the air force game was close throughout .. i watched that one.
3. oregon st should ahve beten them. they were the better team that night despite the scoreboard
4. TCU dominated that game. Not sure there was another game like that one all year. Took an incredible series of events in conjunction for tcu not to win that by over ten points let alone to not win outright. i think this was the moose of the year to date.
 
Echo VK's thoughts. The most important angle to this matchup is the motivation angle. The biggest game in Utah history v. the halfhearted Bama team that almost was in the BIG game.

If someone can peg for sure whether Bama will play with all they got, then please let me know, as I just can't see it.

Bama will come in and play like a team that was almost playing OU IMO. Utes plus the points for me. If I am wrong and Bama comes to play, this will lose very quickly.

Good luck either way.
 
Basically what VK and Streakin said for me. I would love to see people pounding pounding pounding Utah so the line gets down and I can middle.
 
Bama for me. Off the top of my head TCU rushing yards might of been 280-40 in that game. Bama is very similar to Utah but they play a bigger-faster-more athletic version of Utah style as far as their strengths (tough defense, good OL, good rushing game). I trust Nicky Satan to get the troops ready and bounce back in this game.
 
I still dont get who believed Bama was playing for a national title . That big win vs Georgia and........All that aside agree Bama -10 for me . Just dont see the lack of motivation of here . There is a huge difference bewteen expecting to be somewhere and in position to be somewhere. Bama didnt have NatChamps aspirations all year long or as real season goal IMO. When your 10pt dogs in the game to supposedly get you to the Championship how realistic are you chances ?????
 
SportsNut said:
I still dont get who believed Bama was playing for a national title . That big win vs Georgia and........All that aside agree Bama -10 for me . Just dont see the lack of motivation of here . There is a huge difference bewteen expecting to be somewhere and in position to be somewhere. Bama didnt have NatChamps aspirations all year long or as real season goal IMO. When your 10pt dogs in the game to supposedly get you to the Championship how realistic are you chances ?????
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exactly. its not like the rug was pulled out from under this team.
 
Tide High said:
exactly. its not like the rug was pulled out from under this team.
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Glad I made sense without insulting Bama as a team or the fan base. I had FLA that game and like the opposite now in both SEC games....

Bama would have loved to be playing for the NC but they are a young team climbing the ladder. Only makes them better and more dangerous next year IMO..:shake:
 
too many young kids on this team. many starters are going to their first bowl game and the entire team is going to their first big bowl game. i keep saying it. there will be no lack of motivation here. this senior class is proud of what they accomplished and will take it on home with a big W
 
vegaskyle said:
For me it's a motivtional thing. Bama matches up well with utah imo Yao ... but traditionally teams that lose their national title hopes the last game of the year , don't play inspired football in their bowl game. Meanwhile the non-bcs schools are looking to make a name for themselves .... get on the video game box covers like boise st .. prove that they belong etc etc etc

I feel the same way as BAR .. i want to read a lot more on this game closer to gametime to have a better feel. I could actually see myself on either side of this game depending how i feel the motivational angle plays out .. which for someone like me probably means i dont play the game at all.

As far as utah .. they actually could have lost quite a few games as someone pointed out ....

1. they almost choked the michigan game away.
2. the air force game was close throughout .. i watched that one.
3. oregon st should ahve beten them. they were the better team that night despite the scoreboard
4. TCU dominated that game. Not sure there was another game like that one all year. Took an incredible series of events in conjunction for tcu not to win that by over ten points let alone to not win outright. i think this was the moose of the year to date.
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Give me teams that have not played inspired ball after losing?

I'm thinking and West Virginia played inspired after losing national title hopes last year.

Kansas played inspired after losing national title hopes last game.

Missouri played inspired ball after losing national title hopes last game.

Go back to USC losing to UCLA

Ohio State losing to Michigan in 03 beating Kansas State, and under Cooper beat Arizona State lost to Tennesse

EDIT: Kansas State lost to Purdue after losing the big twelve and title hopes, forget how Texas fared, Nebraska lost to Miami fl
 
If Bama comes to play they will smash Utah . Utah couldnt move the ball on the TCU defense what do you think there going to do against the Alabama defense?

Motivation is the key to this game
 
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Bowl game capping is a different animal than regular season capping...we often see TD+ dogs win outright in the bowls.
If Bama can overcome their disappointment in losing their undefeated season, an undisputed #1 ranking, an SEC crown, and a shot at the MNC they'll roll Utah.....:shake:

Utah +pts for me...
 
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Cases can be made for Utah staying within 10 pts that I agree with . Still doesnt understand how Bama is disappointed if they believed what was said about them they are fools . Worse Saban is a terrible coach . You win 1 game and your National Champs? A win @ Georgia and I am still waiting for the others . Clemson and @ LSU . Sure seems like #1 material to me . Give me at least 4 or 5 quality games thats arent layups for NC arguements .

Bama's not exactly the type team you want to lay points with quality teams on the opposing side . The offense just doesnt work quick enough . Saban just wants to methodically move the ball and win . Bama will need to force turnovers to cover IMO...

That loss was a great dose of reality IMO. You played well , lead to start the 4th Q , face the team minus its best offensive weapon and you still lose .

Bowls are a different animal but gambling is still gambling ...
 
The loser of the SEC championship does very well in bowls.......

Phil Steele stats go back to 03

2003....Georgia loses, beats very good Purdue team in 2 OT and covers COVER
2004....Tennessee loses, as dogs beats TAMU down by 31 COVER
2005....LSU loses, as +7 dogs annihalate Miami FL 40-3 COVER
2006....Arkansas loses, lose a close game to a BCS worthy 1 loss Wisconsin DNC
2007...Tennesse loses, beat Wisky at -1 COVER


.....This was somewhat of a historical season for Bama going undefeated in the regular season. Believe me all the talk in that lockeroom right now is that they win the BCS this season is still a great success. They have a lot to gain by showing up as well as a lot to lose. In these instances in which teams have incredible seasons and lose before the bowls they show up. They look upon the bowl as an opportunity to make it a successful season. They know they are good and they have to right the ship or it's just not "right"

...I think about a California in 2004 one loss to USC by 7 points won rest of game. As -11 favs they lay an egg to TT in the Holliday bowl.

That was a situation of not getting what you "deserve"

KSU in 1998 was one of the top two teams all season long and then lose in OT to TAMU and then have to play in the fricken Alamo Bowl vs. Purdue and ultimately lose.

Basically feel you can beat anyone in the country and end up in Holliday and Alamo

---Bama is getting a BCS game. They are getting a game they "deserve"

Look at last year. WEST VIRGINIA. Same thing. Missouri, Kansas

Teams want to rectify this great season so it does not go for nothing.
 
"Still doesnt understand how Bama is disappointed if they believed what was said about them they are fools . Worse Saban is a terrible coach . You win 1 game and your National Champs? A win @ Georgia and I am still waiting for the others ."

nut, i understand your point here, but just because they don't DESERVE to be number one doesn't mean they aren't disappointed that they almost had it wrapped up to go to the national title....they have to be disappointed. human nature...they came up short of something that was within their grasp whether they deserved it or not

o-state, that's interesting, but imo the sec was a much better conference overall in those years, and i'd put utah above 3 or 4 of those teams that the losers faced
 
JPicks said:
I guess your question would have been better stated.."Does everybody lean Bama?"
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on this thread i see a lot of bama people. but yesterday around mid-afternoon i opened about 6-7 bowl threads and not one had Bama as a pick. all i saw was utah and pts.
 
BAR post 7 - he points out several that Utah 'coulda lost'... but they didn't.

VK post 11 - still bitter about the TCU game. Same deal - coulda lost 2-3 times but refused to quit.

Tide post 20 - says Bama can take it home 'with a big W'.

Not disagreeing with any. But sheez - it's like a slap in the face to make that team a 10-point dog or more. The true line (well, my fuckin line, haha) is 4 or 4.5.

Look at some of Bammer's wins - Kentucky by 3, Ole Miss by 4, and LSU by 6. Not exactly dominant performances against great teams. In fact, if it's possible, they played the 'weakest' schedule of any SEC (drawing UK, Tennessee and a soft-ass Jorja team from the East)....

Utah might not win it on the field but how can they catch DD's? It looks like stealing to me.
 
I do not buy the motivation factor. This team has 9 senior playes. That means there are 13 other starters that are underclassman. This team did not have a draft pick in '07. The few seniors on this team saw that, and best believe this being their last game, will be playing their asses off.
For the rest of the squad, name me any player on the team that is not Julio Jones that is being highly tauted. Not many, if you can at all. This means much of the starters and key role players will be back for next season. If the BAMA team has bought into the Saban theory of building from within, then one has to believe that they want to keep the momentum "rolling".
I still view Utah as having the spread option attack. Much like that of Fla. If I am right then, Bama just saw the same offense they are about to face. The major difference is talent. Nobody on this board will tell you that the talent on Utah is remotely close to that of Florida. Bama played a great game against what most national sports media is calling the best team in America. That is a different story. So, needless to say I am on Bama minus the points.
 
I'll pose another questoin. Is anyone viewing this game like last years Sugar Bowl?

We saw a GA team that was the being refered to as the best team in the SEC. They were left out of the SEC championship game for a Tennessee team that was marginal at best. Major bummer. Instead of dwelling on the fact they did not have a chance at the National Championship. They were lined up agains a mid-major in Hawaii. Major slap in the face, going from competing against OSU in the NC to playing Hawaii in the Sugar. GA did not pout, instead took it upon themselves to demoralize a very potant Hawaii offense that did not have any offensive output until late in the 2nd half. I would give Saban an edge over Richt in both the motivational and scheming aspect of coaching. This team will be motivated to represent the SEC against a Utah team going into the game undefeated.
 
That Hawaii team was nowhere near Utah in terms of class. The schedule was a farce and some of their wins were as fluky or moreso than Utah's this season.

Utah is a physical unit and should have little trouble stopping the Alabama running game. I would hesistate to lay DD's with JPW taking snaps against any competent defense in America.
 
Two things:

Utah doesn't run the same offense as Florida. Ya, it's labeled a spread attack, but they aren't that close. To say that Bama will be facing the exact same offense is completely incorrect. Trust me Utah fans have asked all season what the hell happened to the option offense we used to run. It's a hybrid of the spread, option and the pistol. Run a ton of pistol sets though.

If you want to compare Utah to Hawaii last year be my guest. It only helps me identify those who have actually seen football west of the Big 12.
 
CollegeKingRex said:
BAR post 7 - he points out several that Utah 'coulda lost'... but they didn't.

VK post 11 - still bitter about the TCU game. Same deal - coulda lost 2-3 times but refused to quit.

Tide post 20 - says Bama can take it home 'with a big W'.

Not disagreeing with any. But sheez - it's like a slap in the face to make that team a 10-point dog or more. The true line (well, my fuckin line, haha) is 4 or 4.5.

Look at some of Bammer's wins - Kentucky by 3, Ole Miss by 4, and LSU by 6. Not exactly dominant performances against great teams. In fact, if it's possible, they played the 'weakest' schedule of any SEC (drawing UK, Tennessee and a soft-ass Jorja team from the East)....

Utah might not win it on the field but how can they catch DD's? It looks like stealing to me.
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I am cold busted, I AM still bitter about that game.
 
If you want to compare Utah to Hawaii last year be my guest.
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the comparison lies in the fact that probably the majority of the country picked Hawaii to cover and many many people were picking them for the upset...even though they were completely outmanned. actually i remember a lot of people from CTG being completely sold on Hawaii +10.
 
Many respected and far better cappers than I offering their opinions on this one...that's what makes this the best forum in town.....:shake:

I just have to state, once more, that Bama was leading UF by 3 going into the 4th Q...they were 15 minutes away from being undefeated, the undisputed #1 team in CFB, SEC Champions, and playing for the MNC.

Many here do not believe that 18-22 year olds will suffer an "emotional hangover" from the disappointment in losing that 4th Q 14-0 and becoming MNC afterthoughts...I disagree.

I love CFB because unlike the pro's the emotional, situational, motivational handicapping angles often factor in.
Do y'all think Bama players were invisioning winning the SEC Championship and playing for the MNC when that 4th Q began?

I also contend a bowl game versus the Mountain West Conference will only cause further motivational issues. After what UGA did to Hawaii...what do y'all think an SEC player thinks of the lower tiered conferences? Not to mention us SEC Homers constantly flaunting the fact that year-in-year-out (except '08) we're the BEST CFB CONFERENCE IN THE WORLD.
These Alabama players grew up in the South...they expect to walk on that Sugar Bowl field and have Utah run the other way.

As JPicks and Rex have astutely explained, Utah is a far better and more well rounded team than Hawaii...not to mention the fact that, in their heads, if they win and go undefeated they have just as much claim on the MNC as UF/OU/UT/USC.

Solid squad + huge motivational angle = Utah +pts for me.......:shake:

GL or good health to all.


Mully :cheers:
 
JPicks- I was simply using last years Sugar Bowl as an example of motivation. I was not comparing the Hawaii team from last year to this years Utah squad. The only point I have seen to take Utah is the fact that BAMA WILL NOT BE MOTIVATED TO PLAY UTAH. If motivation was not a factor, would you feel that Utah would cover the 10 pts?
As far as watching games west of the Big 12. This is not correct. Outside of Versus, the Mountain West does not get TV time in the southeast. The matchups are not markey enough for the average CFB fan to want to watch in this area of the country, but PAC 10 seems to get some play in the south. I was not a geography major but that is west of the Big 12 You have identified someone that has not seen too much of the your conference. Educate me on why you see Utah as the pick. Please give me something other that motivation.
 
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Utah is a physical unit and should have little trouble stopping the Alabama running game.
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Physical or not, you are reaching there. LSU is the only D in the land that has slowed the run game down. Utah is nowhere near LSU up front, obvoiusly. No question in my mind the big boys of Alabama can run on any front 7 in the country if they have the defense/luck/etc to be down by less than 7 all game.
 
I'd like to point out that I am NOT advising a bet on bama -10. i will not be laying 10 points with any teams this bowl season.
 
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Utah is a physical unit and should have little trouble stopping the Alabama running game. I would hesistate to lay DD's with JPW taking snaps against any competent defense in America.
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Rex, I disagree. TCU ran all over Utah, what makes you think Bama can't with one of the biggest and most physically talented OL's in the country. Sure, that was the only team who really dominated Utah on the ground but who else on that schedule was suppose to, really?
 
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Rex, I disagree. TCU ran all over Utah, what makes you think Bama can't with one of the biggest and most physically talented OL's in the country. Sure, that was the only team who really dominated Utah on the ground but who else on that schedule was suppose to, really?
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I'm not going to argue that Bama shouldn't be able to control the running game here, but in regards to TCU damn near all of their running yards came in the 1st quarter. Pretty sure they had over 100 yards in the 1st quarter before Utah showed up to play. After the first quarter they had 26 rushes for 64 yards or something similar. Of course the game is four quarters but for as much bitching about the ending of that game I haven't heard anybody complain that TCU got lucky in the 1st quarter. Of course wanting to omit the 1st quarter stats sound stupid but so does wanting to omit the last drive in the 4th quarter.

Who else on the schedule? Oregon State,32 carries for 93 yards, and Air Force are two that come right to mind. I mean AFA is 5th in the nation in rushing and averaged 260 yards a game and Utah held them to 53 yards. New Mexico (16th in the nation) averaged 210 and the Utes held them to 119. So take away one quarter and I'd say they've done great against the run all year. Saying their schedule is weak vs. running teams is just incorrect. That's what the MWC, sans BYU, does.
 
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I'm not going to argue that Bama shouldn't be able to control the running game here, but in regards to TCU damn near all of their running yards came in the 1st quarter. Pretty sure they had over 100 yards in the 1st quarter before Utah showed up to play. After the first quarter they had 26 rushes for 64 yards or something similar. Of course the game is four quarters but for as much bitching about the ending of that game I haven't heard anybody complain that TCU got lucky in the 1st quarter. Of course wanting to omit the 1st quarter stats sound stupid but so does wanting to omit the last drive in the 4th quarter.

Who else on the schedule? Oregon State,32 carries for 93 yards, and Air Force are two that come right to mind. I mean AFA is 5th in the nation in rushing and averaged 260 yards a game and Utah held them to 53 yards. New Mexico (16th in the nation) averaged 210 and the Utes held them to 119. So take away one quarter and I'd say they've done great against the run all year. Saying their schedule is weak vs. running teams is just incorrect. That's what the MWC, sans BYU, does.
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Not that it matters cause mooses happen all the time, but the last minute drive was the last thing most TCU backers think when how they lost that game.
 
As an Alabama fan who hasn't posted since the Florida loss, first let me congratulate the Gators on a hell of a game. As much as I hate Tebow, he's one of the better college football players I've ever seen and clutch play after clutch play he stuck it to our defense.

Now, the bowl game. Motivation has been a key issue for Alabama in years past, we always play up to our competition and then when it comes to lesser opponents, we play down. I'll probably have a better read on this closer to game time honestly. The reason I'll have a better idea closer to kickoff is that, upon looking at the guest list for the New Years party I'm attending, I saw a couple of familiar names on there, particularly some of our football players. I'm not sure what kind of curfew Saban will be imposing but around midnight on January 1, I think I'll have a good feel of how motivated the Tide is exactly.
 
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