International Basketball
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hugh613
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MTD: 8-2, +5.65
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7/23/2015 9:00 PM International Basketball 1505 Brazil (Pan American)/USA (Pan American)* Under 166 -120
*Think the overall numbers of each team are a little skewed by the strength of opposition (or lack thereof) to this point. Also hoping the three games in three days thing plays a factor in this one (although the Over's 2-1 so far today, so maybe not). Still, with the way the spread plays out, we're talking about the Americans needing to hit in the upper 80's for this to fly - just get the feeling the Brazilians are capable enough defensively to stop that from happening, but we'll see.
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7/23/2015 9:00 PM International Basketball 1505 Brazil (Pan American)/USA (Pan American)* Under 166 -120
*Think the overall numbers of each team are a little skewed by the strength of opposition (or lack thereof) to this point. Also hoping the three games in three days thing plays a factor in this one (although the Over's 2-1 so far today, so maybe not). Still, with the way the spread plays out, we're talking about the Americans needing to hit in the upper 80's for this to fly - just get the feeling the Brazilians are capable enough defensively to stop that from happening, but we'll see.
Toronto_Mike
Scent of a Woman
damn Brasilians aint no joke!
ArizonaKid
Pretty much a regular
Greece was a great call Hugh, they return the only all first team U 18 from last year's tourney, rest have moved on in age.
Switzerland/Bulgaria under 126
Isreal/Ireland over 148
Switzerland/Bulgaria under 126
Isreal/Ireland over 148
hugh613
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We're going to put up 100+ on that paper thin American defense tonight.
ArizonaKid
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 8-3, +4.45
Friday:
7/24/2015 9:15 AM International Basketball 1512 Chinese Taipei (U-19 - Women)* -9 -120 vs Mali (U-19 - Women)
Nice bounce back AK.
Thanks and Good Luck
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Iceland -11
Sweden/Portugal under 133.5
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 8-4, +3.25
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7/24/2015 11:30 AM International Basketball 1509 Serbia (U-19 - Women)* -11½ -120 vs Argentina (U-19 - Women)
*Fucking Mali came into this game shooting 24% and Chinese Taipei making them look like the Showtime Lakers... Anyways, Argentina's been fairly horrendous so far while Serbia's managed to hold their own, so hopefully this game goes a little more according to plan.
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7/24/2015 11:30 AM International Basketball 1509 Serbia (U-19 - Women)* -11½ -120 vs Argentina (U-19 - Women)
*Fucking Mali came into this game shooting 24% and Chinese Taipei making them look like the Showtime Lakers... Anyways, Argentina's been fairly horrendous so far while Serbia's managed to hold their own, so hopefully this game goes a little more according to plan.
ArizonaKid
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ArizonaKid
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Some teams no matter the roster just play a certain style, like Iceland and Isreal like to play fast paced while a Sweden plays slow no matter what.
I just go on youtube and watch some of their games from yesterday and see what i can pick up...Croatia is for them shockingly bad, Macedonia sucks, Slovenia will get up and down the court, Scotland can't shoot...that sort of thing. After the first round I like to look at the best and worst teams for not just points but field goal attempts per game and see if any teams are really bad from the free throw line. Also look at the previous all U-16 team and see which teams might have an impact player coming onto the roster.
There was a much better crop of elite players in this tourney last year that's for sure.
ArizonaKid
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Damn 0-2 on that set....8-6 overall in here
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Denmark/Austria under 138.5
Puerto Rico/Argentina under 163.5
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Denmark/Austria under 138.5
Puerto Rico/Argentina under 163.5
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dudleysdad
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canada getting 1.5 tonight vs. USA
USA is trash. watched brazil light them up last night
USA is trash. watched brazil light them up last night
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
Still can't believe they gave up 93 to Brazil last night. Sky's the limit for Canada tonight, I would think.
hugh613
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MTD: 8-6, +0.85
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7/24/2015 6:00 PM International Basketball 1523 Canada (Pan American)/USA (Pan American)* Over 174 -120
*I'm beginning to realize this isn't as much fun when you start losing, LOL... I don't know, started the NBA Playoffs 5-0 and fell apart from there. Started Summer League 5-0 and jumped ship while I could still show a profit. Now a 5-0 start to these FIBA tournaments, and the momentum's clearly started to shift. Hopefully stem the tide with this one... Anyways, it's becoming increasingly obvious just how porous this US defense is (lack of effort, lack of ability, not sure), so can't really picture them slowing us down. As for the offense, shouldn't be too many worries given the pace our games have been played at. Plus, with this being one and done, should be able to get free throws down the stretch if it comes down to it. Should be an entertaining game nonetheless.
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7/24/2015 6:00 PM International Basketball 1523 Canada (Pan American)/USA (Pan American)* Over 174 -120
*I'm beginning to realize this isn't as much fun when you start losing, LOL... I don't know, started the NBA Playoffs 5-0 and fell apart from there. Started Summer League 5-0 and jumped ship while I could still show a profit. Now a 5-0 start to these FIBA tournaments, and the momentum's clearly started to shift. Hopefully stem the tide with this one... Anyways, it's becoming increasingly obvious just how porous this US defense is (lack of effort, lack of ability, not sure), so can't really picture them slowing us down. As for the offense, shouldn't be too many worries given the pace our games have been played at. Plus, with this being one and done, should be able to get free throws down the stretch if it comes down to it. Should be an entertaining game nonetheless.
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dudleysdad
Guest
So Canada has been flying up n down the court?
Good to know. Will jump on the over too
Good to know. Will jump on the over too
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
Just went through the pace numbers real quick: CAN 80.9, USA 78.4 which translates to CAN 97.1, USA 94.1 over a 48 minute game. In NBA terms, that would be the equivalent of the Rockets vs. the Lakers although, obviously, these aren't the Rockets and the Lakers, and we're talking about a sample size of three games. Plus, four games in four nights, although seeing as how neither side has bothered playing much defense to this point, odds are it's not the offense that's going to suffer.
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 9-6, +1.85
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7/24/2015 9:00 PM International Basketball 1528 Argentina (Pan American)* -8 -110 vs Puerto Rico (Pan American)
*Kind of feel like I'm cherry picking my stats here, but Argentina pretty much lives and dies by the three (a whopping 45.9% of their shots have been from downtown, hitting at 31.7%). Meanwhile, the Puerto Ricans are giving up a fairly robust 38.6% from beyond the arc (number skewed a bit by the Brazilians shooting almost 50% in the opener, but still pretty bad overall), and 46.9% from the field overall. If the Argentinians can get it going from 3, this one could get ugly pretty fast; if not, well...
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7/24/2015 9:00 PM International Basketball 1528 Argentina (Pan American)* -8 -110 vs Puerto Rico (Pan American)
*Kind of feel like I'm cherry picking my stats here, but Argentina pretty much lives and dies by the three (a whopping 45.9% of their shots have been from downtown, hitting at 31.7%). Meanwhile, the Puerto Ricans are giving up a fairly robust 38.6% from beyond the arc (number skewed a bit by the Brazilians shooting almost 50% in the opener, but still pretty bad overall), and 46.9% from the field overall. If the Argentinians can get it going from 3, this one could get ugly pretty fast; if not, well...
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
Don't think I'll be up by the time the lines come out, so here's a table I made for the U-19 (just because I got tired of constantly having to look things up and because, for some stupid reason, the FIBA site only has offensive statistics, and no defensive). Probably should have included more advanced stats, but this should be good enough for now for the 5 people here actually interested in the tournament. Maybe I'll work something up for the U18.
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hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 10-6, +2.85
Saturday:
7/25/2015 5:15 AM International Basketball 1501 Kilsyth Cobras/Brisbane Spartans* Under 157 -110
*Meh, I saw it on the board, looked it up, so... Anyways, these two played a few weeks ago to a 67-60 Kilsyth win. Neither side shot that well, but given the pace of the game, even an improvement to the low 40's might not be enough to push this over. Plus, Brisbane's reeling with 8 straight losses while Kilsyth looks like it has the lowest points per game average in the league (terrible offense, great defense), so hopefully the linesmakers aren't pulling a fast one on me here in my sleep deprived state.
Saturday:
7/25/2015 5:15 AM International Basketball 1501 Kilsyth Cobras/Brisbane Spartans* Under 157 -110
*Meh, I saw it on the board, looked it up, so... Anyways, these two played a few weeks ago to a 67-60 Kilsyth win. Neither side shot that well, but given the pace of the game, even an improvement to the low 40's might not be enough to push this over. Plus, Brisbane's reeling with 8 straight losses while Kilsyth looks like it has the lowest points per game average in the league (terrible offense, great defense), so hopefully the linesmakers aren't pulling a fast one on me here in my sleep deprived state.
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
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7/25/2015 11:00 AM International Basketball 1521 Australia (U-19 - Women)/Russia (U-19 - Women)* Over 130 -120
7/25/2015 11:00 AM International Basketball 1581 USA (Pan American)* -15 -110 vs Dominican Rep. (Pan American)
7/25/2015 11:30 AM International Basketball 1531 Serbia (U-19 - Women)/Netherlands (U-19 - Women)* Over 134½ -120
*This Brazilian team is beyond ridiculous...
7/25/2015 11:00 AM International Basketball 1521 Australia (U-19 - Women)/Russia (U-19 - Women)* Over 130 -120
7/25/2015 11:00 AM International Basketball 1581 USA (Pan American)* -15 -110 vs Dominican Rep. (Pan American)
7/25/2015 11:30 AM International Basketball 1531 Serbia (U-19 - Women)/Netherlands (U-19 - Women)* Over 134½ -120
*This Brazilian team is beyond ridiculous...
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 12-9, +1.45
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7/25/2015 2:15 PM International Basketball 1547 Germany (U-18)/Latvia (U-18)* Under 128½ -120
7/25/2015 2:15 PM International Basketball 1556 Greece (U-18)* -13½ -120 vs Bosnia & Herzegovina (U-18)
7/25/2015 2:15 PM International Basketball 1580 Israel (U-18)* -25½ -120 vs Austria (U-18)
7/25/2015 4:30 PM International Basketball 1583 Canada (Pan American)* -150 vs Brazil (Pan American) *2 UNITS*
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7/25/2015 2:15 PM International Basketball 1547 Germany (U-18)/Latvia (U-18)* Under 128½ -120
7/25/2015 2:15 PM International Basketball 1556 Greece (U-18)* -13½ -120 vs Bosnia & Herzegovina (U-18)
7/25/2015 2:15 PM International Basketball 1580 Israel (U-18)* -25½ -120 vs Austria (U-18)
7/25/2015 4:30 PM International Basketball 1583 Canada (Pan American)* -150 vs Brazil (Pan American) *2 UNITS*
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 12-13, -5.15
Sunday:
7/26/2015 1:15 PM International Basketball 1503 USA (U-19 - Women)/Russia (U-19 - Women)* Under 139½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Well, this fell apart pretty fast... Anyways, if there's one team that can slow down the American attack, it's probably the Russians (to be honest, not positive they can't win this one outright), so won't be surprised to see this one be a ground and pound type game right til the end.
Sunday:
7/26/2015 1:15 PM International Basketball 1503 USA (U-19 - Women)/Russia (U-19 - Women)* Under 139½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Well, this fell apart pretty fast... Anyways, if there's one team that can slow down the American attack, it's probably the Russians (to be honest, not positive they can't win this one outright), so won't be surprised to see this one be a ground and pound type game right til the end.
Toronto_Mike
Scent of a Woman
France u18s are just killing it
Toronto_Mike
Scent of a Woman
wow Luxembourg were at one point +23 in game and had the lead in the final 15s but just lost by last second bucket.
underdogs are pretty intriguing here as now this is the second stage of play for some of these teams.
underdogs are pretty intriguing here as now this is the second stage of play for some of these teams.
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 12-14, -7.55
Monday:
7/27/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1505 Spain (U-18)/Serbia (U-18)* Under 125½ -120 *2 UNITS*
7/27/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1507 Lithuania (U-18)/Russia (U-18)* Over 135 -120 *2 UNITS*
7/27/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1539 Iceland (U-18)/Ireland (U-18)* Over 150½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Ugh, think it's probably about time to wrap this up. Let's see if I can't get the ball rolling again one last time...
Monday:
7/27/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1505 Spain (U-18)/Serbia (U-18)* Under 125½ -120 *2 UNITS*
7/27/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1507 Lithuania (U-18)/Russia (U-18)* Over 135 -120 *2 UNITS*
7/27/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1539 Iceland (U-18)/Ireland (U-18)* Over 150½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Ugh, think it's probably about time to wrap this up. Let's see if I can't get the ball rolling again one last time...
Toronto_Mike
Scent of a Woman
I'd be wary of the overs in the B division hugh really a mess there.
Been keeping an eye on the big favs and seeing how they respond.
Also I have noticed that the mediocre favs will come out firing 1H but will fade in the 2H.
The discrepencies can be huge but often some teams are just heavily favored because their opponents are shit rather than them deserving to be that heavily favored.
Been keeping an eye on the big favs and seeing how they respond.
Also I have noticed that the mediocre favs will come out firing 1H but will fade in the 2H.
The discrepencies can be huge but often some teams are just heavily favored because their opponents are shit rather than them deserving to be that heavily favored.
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
Yeah, I pretty much dropped the ball here. Hard to cap a game properly when you're not really familiar with players/teams (although, at the same time, when Ireland and Iceland combine to go 12-63 from 3, and the total lands on 139, not much you can do about that...) Plus, like you said, the big favourites haven't really been covering at that high a clip from what I've noticed (I think there were three favoured by 20+ yesterday that only ended up winning by single digits).
In any event, not like I was betting my usual stakes on these games - gave me something to do during my downtime at least. More embarassing than anything else, but oh well.
Good luck with the rest of your bets.
Toronto_Mike
Scent of a Woman
Israel were at one point -26 in game and ended up losing to Denmark who were 6.99 ML underdogs
Slovakia were in cruise control as 1.09 ML favs and then ended up losing to Scotland
Generally the favs do win but during in game there is an overreaction.
I managed to get Italy +18.5 +17 and +16.5 in game knowing full well that they are a legit squad and that Greeks just came out firing and there was plenty of game to be played.
Greeks won by 11
Slovakia were in cruise control as 1.09 ML favs and then ended up losing to Scotland
Generally the favs do win but during in game there is an overreaction.
I managed to get Italy +18.5 +17 and +16.5 in game knowing full well that they are a legit squad and that Greeks just came out firing and there was plenty of game to be played.
Greeks won by 11
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
MTD: 13-16, -10.35
Tuesday:
7/28/2015 9:45 AM International Basketball 1503 Serbia (U-18)/France (U-18)* Under 129½ -120 *2 UNITS*
7/28/2015 9:45 AM International Basketball 1504 France (U-18)* -10 -120 vs Serbia (U-18) *2 UNITS*
7/28/2015 9:45 AM International Basketball 1515 Montenegro (U-18)/Croatia (U-18)* Under 141½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Apparently haven't learned my lesson yet. Time to start chipping away...
Tuesday:
7/28/2015 9:45 AM International Basketball 1503 Serbia (U-18)/France (U-18)* Under 129½ -120 *2 UNITS*
7/28/2015 9:45 AM International Basketball 1504 France (U-18)* -10 -120 vs Serbia (U-18) *2 UNITS*
7/28/2015 9:45 AM International Basketball 1515 Montenegro (U-18)/Croatia (U-18)* Under 141½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Apparently haven't learned my lesson yet. Time to start chipping away...
hugh613
Pretty much a regular
Adding:
7/28/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1507 Russia (U-18)* -2½ -120 vs Bosnia & Herzegovina (U-18) *2 UNITS*
7/28/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1509 Lithuania (U-18)/Italy (U-18)* Under 132½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Might as well throw out a few more losers to finish this off...
7/28/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1507 Russia (U-18)* -2½ -120 vs Bosnia & Herzegovina (U-18) *2 UNITS*
7/28/2015 12:00 PM International Basketball 1509 Lithuania (U-18)/Italy (U-18)* Under 132½ -120 *2 UNITS*
*Might as well throw out a few more losers to finish this off...
Toronto_Mike
Scent of a Woman
underdogs are going nuts today
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